WEBVTT 00:00:06.618 --> 00:00:08.618 My name is Richard Peck. I came here as provost in 1988. Accidentally 00:00:11.460 --> 00:00:15.187 became interim president when Russ Nelson retired almost immediately after 00:00:15.220 --> 00:00:21.625 I arrived, and, um, I spent 9 months in that job and during that time was 00:00:21.658 --> 00:00:25.026 nominated for a presidency elsewhere, so I left here to go to the 00:00:25.059 --> 00:00:31.576 University of New Mexico, where I retired after another 10 years. 00:00:31.609 --> 00:00:38.726 I'm Charles B. Chuck Corbin. When I retired in 2005, I was a professor of 00:00:38.759 --> 00:00:44.616 exercise and wellness at the ASU Polytechnic campus. 00:00:44.649 --> 00:00:51.326 I'm Harold White. My friends call me Hal. I'm professor of, uh, management 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:56.445 in the College of Business, now the WP Carey School of Business. Uh, I 00:00:56.478 --> 00:01:04.478 joined the faculty in 1966, retired in 1993. 00:01:04.579 --> 00:01:08.346 Harry Lundgren, I was a member of the Faculty of Civil Engineering, 00:01:08.379 --> 00:01:14.025 professor of Civil Engineering. I started here on campus actually in '59, 00:01:14.058 --> 00:01:19.546 but a faculty position in '61, and I was here from 61 until 1989 when I 00:01:19.579 --> 00:01:22.796 retired. 00:01:22.829 --> 00:01:27.286 I'm Warren Frye. I worked at Arizona State University. 1st, 1st of all, I 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:35.319 was director of audiovisual services. And uh gee whiz, 1974. 00:01:36.260 --> 00:01:40.456 I'm, I'm Susan Dalbert, and I had a number of positions at ASU. I started 00:01:40.489 --> 00:01:45.936 actually working for, uh, Dean Shell when I first graduated and student 00:01:45.969 --> 00:01:49.016 activities, and then I moved over to high school college relations, 00:01:49.049 --> 00:01:51.897 eventually becoming the director of undergraduate admissions, and then I 00:01:51.930 --> 00:01:59.930 was the executive director and president of the alumni association. 00:02:03.638 --> 00:02:10.217 Mostly uniform, uh, come to the shirt. The jersey was all wool. You know, 00:02:10.250 --> 00:02:15.267 and long sleeve. They're all short sleeve now. Because at the time they 00:02:15.300 --> 00:02:18.267 were rolling it up and some of them were cutting them. They didn't want 00:02:18.300 --> 00:02:25.775 them, then they would fall and get all skin. But anyway, They were all 00:02:25.808 --> 00:02:29.775 wall at one time and uh they had numbers in the back, but it wasn't 00:02:29.808 --> 00:02:33.577 required to have in the front. 00:02:33.610 --> 00:02:37.427 So in the front they had kind of ribbing like thing. I don't know how to 00:02:37.460 --> 00:02:43.207 explain it. It was sewn on there kind of V. And then they had some on the 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:47.967 arms right here. That was mostly for the boys that carried the ball, you 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:52.005 see, that would kind of hold the ball a little better, so they had it here 00:02:52.038 --> 00:02:57.626 , here, and then here. We have a lot of padding like they do now? Well, I 00:02:57.659 --> 00:03:01.237 don't think the equipment was as good like the shoulder pad. They were 00:03:01.270 --> 00:03:06.475 just almost a couple of pieces of leather, and now they have a lot of uh 00:03:06.508 --> 00:03:12.386 shock absorbent techniques in there and the helmets. The old helmets were 00:03:12.419 --> 00:03:17.786 just leather, I think. It's almost like those flyers or just a piece of 00:03:17.819 --> 00:03:21.146 leather with a little padding. 00:03:21.179 --> 00:03:26.927 The shoes, shoes were high top, they didn't have the, the low top high top 00:03:26.960 --> 00:03:33.686 , and they were uh leather cleats. They were kind of rectangle, and they 00:03:33.719 --> 00:03:37.606 were large at top and then came down not to a point but came down, and 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:42.396 there were layers of leather like that. And they were just nailed on to 00:03:42.429 --> 00:03:47.237 the soul. Tell me a little bit more about Dr. Gamaged. What was he like? 00:03:47.270 --> 00:03:53.146 Well, the president was very good from this standpoint that He did 2 00:03:53.179 --> 00:03:58.017 things. He looked after the students. And I would say almost every student 00:03:58.050 --> 00:04:05.116 had some part of a job. And the school was run by students like janitor 00:04:05.149 --> 00:04:10.396 and gardening and that sort of thing. I had, I was a gardener's helper and 00:04:10.429 --> 00:04:17.955 I helped uh. Um, the plumbers had all kinds of jobs, and we all did this. 00:04:17.988 --> 00:04:24.197 So you had part-time jobs and full-time jobs. Full-time were, were hard to 00:04:24.230 --> 00:04:31.296 come by. Because the room and board, I think you saw there was 2150. 00:04:31.329 --> 00:04:36.166 That's pretty good, is it, then, uh, the registration, uh, fees and all 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:41.645 that was very, very nominal, you see, and you could work that out. It was 00:04:41.678 --> 00:04:47.046 2150 for how, how often do you pay that? That's every month, 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:55.079 but if you have a full-time job that would cover that. 00:04:57.189 --> 00:05:02.486 One thing I haven't talked about that I. Always felt good about was, was 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:07.366 uh the notion of difference makers. I called John Silcox, who was the dean 00:05:07.399 --> 00:05:12.555 at Cornell where Jim Mayer was. And I said, tell me about Jim, and he said 00:05:12.588 --> 00:05:18.745 he's a um he's a catalyst for good. I thought that's an interesting way to 00:05:18.778 --> 00:05:23.286 describe somebody, a catalyst for good. Well, I came to discover what that 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:28.325 meant because when this individual got to campus. He seemed to connect 00:05:28.358 --> 00:05:31.257 with everybody. 00:05:31.290 --> 00:05:36.197 In ways that caused a whole set of others to be more productive and so his 00:05:36.230 --> 00:05:43.895 very presence here. Well, he seemed to be spending no time on his own work. 00:05:43.928 --> 00:05:49.015 Caused people all over to connect to that never connected to, to cause 00:05:49.048 --> 00:05:53.895 work to occur that never would have occurred, uh, to cause us to do good 00:05:53.928 --> 00:05:57.616 things internally and externally that would have never happened if he 00:05:57.649 --> 00:06:02.377 wasn't here and so. I could see he really was a catalyst for good. He was 00:06:02.410 --> 00:06:07.817 amazing. He was over in art working with people in the art department to 00:06:07.850 --> 00:06:12.536 to use his some kind of technology to see the picture that was under the 00:06:12.569 --> 00:06:15.575 picture without destroying the picture that was on the front and oil 00:06:15.608 --> 00:06:21.096 paintings where they painted one painting over an old one. He, uh, he was 00:06:21.129 --> 00:06:25.757 over in engineering working with people he was in in chemistry and physics 00:06:25.790 --> 00:06:29.895 and solid state science. He was just everywhere he in no time at all, he 00:06:29.928 --> 00:06:35.616 had a, a van that some somebody donated and he had an electron microscope 00:06:35.649 --> 00:06:38.616 that went all over the state to high school so kids could do stuff on the 00:06:38.649 --> 00:06:43.257 electron microscope. He had high school kids in the summer. He was just 00:06:43.290 --> 00:06:47.536 unbelievable and so I got to thinking out this guy really makes a 00:06:47.569 --> 00:06:53.447 difference in the broader institution. I wonder I, I need to look around 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:58.850 and see who these other difference makers are and then we need to try to. 00:06:59.028 --> 00:07:01.028 Recognize that and support them so that they'll stay here and continue to 00:07:02.250 --> 00:07:08.536 do that. And so over the last few years that I was dean, we. Identified a 00:07:08.569 --> 00:07:11.296 number of people that we thought were difference makers and with Milt 00:07:11.329 --> 00:07:15.656 Glick's help and Laddie's help and with endowment money that was raised, 00:07:15.689 --> 00:07:21.127 we ended up putting most of them on some sort of endowed appointment. And 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:26.236 not all of them, but most of them. And, and then we began as we started 00:07:26.269 --> 00:07:31.796 looking further for other endowed appointments to try to find people that. 00:07:31.829 --> 00:07:37.317 Would lift others that would be difference makers and so um I always felt 00:07:37.350 --> 00:07:42.426 good about good about that and think it helped the institution. Jim must 00:07:42.459 --> 00:07:45.757 be 80 years, 90 years. I don't know what he is now, but Jim's never 00:07:45.790 --> 00:07:50.757 finished the sentence that he started, um, in all that time he would, he 00:07:50.790 --> 00:07:53.877 would start a sentence and he'd interrupt himself and then he'd interrupt 00:07:53.910 --> 00:07:58.187 that sentence, interrupt it was just a kick. In fact, he gave a talk up at 00:07:58.220 --> 00:08:03.447 the Navajo Nation one time. And uh 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:07.697 He went on and on and on, and they took a break and at the break, he 00:08:07.730 --> 00:08:12.096 walked over to one of the elders and he said, what do you think? And the 00:08:12.129 --> 00:08:20.129 elder said. A little long on story. 00:08:21.838 --> 00:08:28.877 I met my husband in a drugstore and uh. Um, I, I knew good and well that 00:08:28.910 --> 00:08:33.836 he was not a teacher. He had told me that he was, it was that, uh, he had 00:08:33.869 --> 00:08:37.836 just gotten out of teaching a class, and I did not believe him. I said, no 00:08:37.869 --> 00:08:42.275 , you're here because you're visiting a Stevens girl. I know that's the 00:08:42.308 --> 00:08:48.395 case. No, I am not. So anyway, he finally convinced me and asked me to 00:08:48.428 --> 00:08:53.596 meet him the next morning at 7:30 at this particular drugstore and for a 00:08:53.629 --> 00:08:58.657 cup of coffee, so I did. But the funny part is I went home that day and I 00:08:58.690 --> 00:09:02.696 told my parents I'd met the man I was gonna marry and they thought this 00:09:02.729 --> 00:09:06.047 kid is out of her gourd. 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:10.125 But it worked out that way. What is the perspective is your role as the 00:09:10.158 --> 00:09:14.255 first lady of ASU and it's like the faculty, your relationship with the 00:09:14.288 --> 00:09:19.816 faculty, students, staff, and the alumni. I think that we had, uh, I had a 00:09:19.849 --> 00:09:25.086 lot of dealings with the faculty because faculty wives were very active at 00:09:25.119 --> 00:09:29.807 that time and we were bringing in so many new faculty that it was really. 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:35.846 Nice we had such an active newcomers group and I can honestly say that to 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:38.927 this day many of the people that were in the newcomers group are the 00:09:38.960 --> 00:09:43.566 people that I know the best because I never did know all the faculty that 00:09:43.599 --> 00:09:47.246 had been here a long time because they had their own little groups and 00:09:47.279 --> 00:09:51.807 they've been here a long time they knew each other quite well and these 00:09:51.840 --> 00:09:56.775 newcomers that were coming in. Well, I was actually a newcomer too, so you 00:09:56.808 --> 00:10:00.765 know, we got along fine. What, what, what do you think that your husband 00:10:00.798 --> 00:10:07.186 would uh. Consider his greatest accomplishments or his greatest challenges 00:10:07.219 --> 00:10:13.586 when he was here. Well, probably getting money from the legislators, 00:10:13.619 --> 00:10:20.385 and I think that he really enjoyed that challenge. Uh, he, he enjoyed the 00:10:20.418 --> 00:10:26.787 people there and uh it was something that at the end of the session he 00:10:26.820 --> 00:10:31.625 knew whether he had done a good job or not, whereas a lot of things in the 00:10:31.658 --> 00:10:36.866 field of education. It's so it's kind of a never never land you don't know 00:10:36.899 --> 00:10:42.186 for years whether there's been any um anything happened that you would 00:10:42.219 --> 00:10:46.946 have liked to have happened but um he he did well with the legislature for 00:10:46.979 --> 00:10:51.486 that time and he always felt that it was a state university and the 00:10:51.519 --> 00:10:57.076 legislature should fund it. Um, so I think that he put that right before 00:10:57.109 --> 00:11:02.217 them all the time. Hey, this is your school you fund it. It isn't done 00:11:02.250 --> 00:11:05.576 quite that way now, but they're very fortunate. They've had a lot of 00:11:05.609 --> 00:11:11.106 outside help. 00:11:11.139 --> 00:11:15.586 Uh, I suppose at one level. 00:11:15.619 --> 00:11:20.846 Some of the most interesting memories have to do with uh. With 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:26.346 entertaining Through most of the years we probably entertained about 5000 00:11:26.379 --> 00:11:32.645 people a year at the house. And some of the some of the groups that came 00:11:32.678 --> 00:11:35.807 in were really fascinating. 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:41.875 Uh, Martha Graham, she and her troop had dinner at our house one night 00:11:41.908 --> 00:11:44.986 about one o'clock in the morning. 00:11:45.019 --> 00:11:51.015 They had, they had done their signature performance. In the course of a 00:11:51.048 --> 00:11:54.657 residency that they did on campus for several weeks, I think they were 00:11:54.690 --> 00:11:57.186 here 6 weeks. 00:11:57.219 --> 00:12:03.226 And uh we invited the whole troop over and a multitude of others to meet 00:12:03.259 --> 00:12:06.927 them. And 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:10.427 I have an indelible memory. 00:12:10.460 --> 00:12:18.177 Of Martha Graham sitting. On the sofa in the living room holding court 00:12:18.210 --> 00:12:23.446 with the people who came in to talk with her. And we had a little uh 00:12:23.479 --> 00:12:29.417 Sheltie at the time who positioned himself right next to her and she was 00:12:29.450 --> 00:12:35.025 sitting there petting him talking with these people as they came in. Uh, 00:12:35.058 --> 00:12:39.706 another time we entertained Walter Cronkite many times when we were 00:12:39.739 --> 00:12:47.739 courting Walter, the use of Walter's name on the school of. Of journalism 00:12:47.969 --> 00:12:51.025 And uh 00:12:51.058 --> 00:12:59.058 Our stepdaughter Donna came in from a dance one night. And sort of flipped 00:13:00.099 --> 00:13:05.265 into the house and didn't realize that Cronkite was there and we 00:13:05.298 --> 00:13:09.385 introduced them. And he asked her what she'd been doing and she said, Well 00:13:09.418 --> 00:13:15.076 , she'd been to a dance, and he asked her if she knew how to waltz. And 00:13:15.109 --> 00:13:18.515 she said, well, no, I've never done that. 00:13:18.548 --> 00:13:25.496 So Walter and his wife and Donna moved into the entryway of the house and 00:13:25.529 --> 00:13:33.308 he taught her a waltz well Mrs. Cronkite. Hum the Blue Danube.