WEBVTT 00:00:06.969 --> 00:00:08.969 My name is Barry R Brons. R is for Richard. Uh, I worked at Arizon State 00:00:11.050 --> 00:00:15.865 University for 38 years. Uh, I started as an accountant in the 00:00:15.898 --> 00:00:20.256 controller's office, uh, worked up to assistant to the vice president, 00:00:20.289 --> 00:00:24.375 then, uh, assistant vice president for, uh, business affairs at the West 00:00:24.408 --> 00:00:32.065 Campus. Uh, subsequently became vice provost for business and finance and 00:00:32.098 --> 00:00:37.106 also vice provost for planning and budget at the West Campus. And uh which 00:00:37.139 --> 00:00:41.315 I was there for for most of my career and then came back to MP as 00:00:41.348 --> 00:00:46.515 assistant vice president for business and finance uh west in downtown 00:00:46.548 --> 00:00:51.496 campus. The West Campus where it is now started with just 300 acres of 00:00:51.529 --> 00:00:57.085 dirt. And so we were going to dedicate. The corner where the flagpole, 00:00:57.118 --> 00:00:59.347 well not the word flagpole, but we're going to dedicate the coroner as 00:00:59.380 --> 00:01:01.726 sort of the dedication of the campus before they started preparing the 00:01:01.759 --> 00:01:06.516 site. We set up tents in the quarter and we obviously must have had some 00:01:06.549 --> 00:01:10.186 kind of advertising going because we were serving food and people knew 00:01:10.219 --> 00:01:14.275 this. Well, all the dignitaries by the time they got there, uh, there was 00:01:14.308 --> 00:01:18.355 no food left because all these RVs had pulled in and the retired people 00:01:18.388 --> 00:01:23.555 were having lunch and, uh, we, we ran out of food. I think it was hot that 00:01:23.588 --> 00:01:27.036 day. It was, I mean it was around this time actually it's probably it was 00:01:27.069 --> 00:01:33.605 like February 26, 1986, so. Uh, it was hot for, for February and it was 00:01:33.638 --> 00:01:38.447 miserable, but, but again that came up. But anyway, I, I digress. Uh, 00:01:38.480 --> 00:01:42.117 these are the kind of, these are the kind of things you, you remember 00:01:42.150 --> 00:01:48.346 forever when we first moved into Montebello, uh. It was in August and 00:01:48.379 --> 00:01:51.635 around October we were getting ready to turn on the heating because what 00:01:51.668 --> 00:01:55.846 you had were were individual classrooms from the old classic grade school 00:01:55.879 --> 00:02:00.876 it was a great school. uh, you had two classrooms in each building but 00:02:00.909 --> 00:02:06.665 they found out there was no heat. The gas lines had rotted. So, uh, we, we 00:02:06.698 --> 00:02:09.707 had, I called my good friend George Morrell who was director of purchasing 00:02:09.740 --> 00:02:14.555 and a legend in his own right on this campus. And George, we got to do 00:02:14.588 --> 00:02:17.755 this right now and so they got all the waivers and everything and we had 00:02:17.788 --> 00:02:20.146 somebody out there working but there was no heat and it was starting to 00:02:20.179 --> 00:02:25.327 get cool, uh, so we had to rent. I don't know if you ever watched the old 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:27.886 time football games, they had these big torpedo heaters sitting on the 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:31.975 sideline. Uh, so we rented a couple of those and went around and stuck 00:02:32.008 --> 00:02:35.555 them in each classroom just before classes started to sort of take the 00:02:35.588 --> 00:02:40.085 shell out then hope the body heat would take care of the rest well. We 00:02:40.118 --> 00:02:45.005 were very small then, so I was moving the heaters around and uh got one a 00:02:45.038 --> 00:02:49.025 little too close to a plastic chair. And we found out the fire alarms 00:02:49.058 --> 00:02:53.696 worked, so, uh, but other than that it was uh it was uh it functional and 00:02:53.729 --> 00:02:57.096 we did finally get the heat on, but those are the kinds of things you just 00:02:57.129 --> 00:03:03.555 don't get to experience very often in this day and age. 00:03:03.588 --> 00:03:08.406 My name is Richard Peck. I came here as provost in 1988. Accidentally 00:03:08.439 --> 00:03:12.136 became interim president when Russ Nelson retired almost immediately after 00:03:12.169 --> 00:03:18.606 I arrived, and, um, I spent 9 months in that job and during that time was 00:03:18.639 --> 00:03:22.005 nominated for a presidency elsewhere, so I left here to go to the 00:03:22.038 --> 00:03:26.547 University of New Mexico, where I retired after another 10 years. I had 00:03:26.580 --> 00:03:30.267 two very good years here and I enjoyed the experience a lot. I learned a 00:03:30.300 --> 00:03:33.376 good bit. I learned a lot from Russ even in that short time that we were 00:03:33.409 --> 00:03:37.975 together. I have one example, one of the departments was unhappy with the 00:03:38.008 --> 00:03:42.866 treatment they perceived to be receiving from the dean. I thought the Dean 00:03:42.899 --> 00:03:47.666 was right. Um, I thought the department was, uh, being unreasonable, and I 00:03:47.699 --> 00:03:50.585 didn't know what to do about it, and Russ said, what you do about it is 00:03:50.618 --> 00:03:53.346 meet with everybody in the department, talk with them, listen to what 00:03:53.379 --> 00:03:57.666 their complaints are. So it was a substantially sized department. Let me 00:03:57.699 --> 00:04:02.267 guess, 30 people. I spent half an hour to 1 hour with each one of them, 00:04:02.300 --> 00:04:05.866 and each one of them said the same thing. He said, I'm OK, but these other 00:04:05.899 --> 00:04:10.267 guys are really unhappy with the deed. And, and one at a time, they all 00:04:10.300 --> 00:04:14.786 declared their allegiance and also identified the, uh, rebels in the 00:04:14.819 --> 00:04:20.507 middle of their own department. And after all those conversations, the 00:04:20.540 --> 00:04:26.046 furor died down, uh, things calmed down, and, uh, we went on. There's a, a 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:29.166 story that I'd like you to tell about the Danford Chapel, but Danforth 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:34.786 Chapel had, um, there were people on campus who were. Concerned that this 00:04:34.819 --> 00:04:40.197 was a conflict between um education and religion and this is a public 00:04:40.230 --> 00:04:45.836 university and we should not be churchy and so on um and so the conflict 00:04:45.869 --> 00:04:49.437 went on and bubbled it was in the newspaper and not much happened until 00:04:49.470 --> 00:04:54.426 one day I got to campus early and the cross off the top of the Dansworth 00:04:54.459 --> 00:04:58.507 chapel was lying on the ground. And one of the students said, the wind 00:04:58.540 --> 00:05:03.476 blew it off. And I said God works in one ways His miracles to perform. The 00:05:03.509 --> 00:05:08.075 wind will blow it back up by tonight, and the wind blew it back on top of 00:05:08.108 --> 00:05:14.156 the chaps. Uh, I went to Vermont to meet with Laddie, and he asked me what 00:05:14.189 --> 00:05:17.437 I thought the problems were and what the opportunities were, and I was as 00:05:17.470 --> 00:05:22.596 frank as I could be without any idea of what that would mean to him and 00:05:22.629 --> 00:05:27.067 then kept out of his way. In fact, he told a wonderful story. Uh, this is 00:05:27.100 --> 00:05:30.786 his story, but let me tell it. Uh, he said, when you become president of a 00:05:30.819 --> 00:05:36.325 university. Um, it's very easy for your ego to swell. You get to be very 00:05:36.358 --> 00:05:39.726 self-important very quickly, he said. He, when he became president of 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:42.567 Vermont, he'd only been there a week, and his son came running upstairs. 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:46.015 He was taking a shower. His son, you got a, you got a phone call. And 00:05:46.048 --> 00:05:48.926 Larry said, Take, take the message. He said, No, no, no, it's Time 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:53.325 Magazine, and they, they have to talk to you. So he got dried off and went 00:05:53.358 --> 00:05:58.197 to the phone and said this is President. Um, and he said, wondering all 00:05:58.230 --> 00:06:01.717 the time which of my faculty has done something worth celebrating or 00:06:01.750 --> 00:06:06.356 something worth criminal indictment. And the woman on the phone said, oh, 00:06:06.389 --> 00:06:10.637 I'm glad I've got you. We've got a special, uh, offer now and a 3 year 00:06:10.670 --> 00:06:13.007 subscription. 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:15.116 And he said, 00:06:15.149 --> 00:06:18.736 uh, now, I, I might not have taken the call if I known what it was about, 00:06:18.769 --> 00:06:22.447 but, but my ego told me it's Time magazine and they want to talk to 00:06:22.480 --> 00:06:27.245 somebody important, so here I am. Um, I, I like the self-effacing part of 00:06:27.278 --> 00:06:32.176 that story. 00:06:32.209 --> 00:06:37.536 My name is Walter Harris. Uh, I was uh vice provost of the university when 00:06:37.569 --> 00:06:42.156 I left the university. Uh, I had a number of different titles over the 00:06:42.189 --> 00:06:47.976 course of my time here, but, uh, was vice provost at the time I left. At 00:06:48.009 --> 00:06:52.937 about the 4th grade, uh, my family moved to the big city, uh, which was 00:06:52.970 --> 00:06:58.346 Selma at the time. Uh, then I went to, uh, finish, uh, elementary school, 00:06:58.379 --> 00:07:02.745 intermediate school, and, uh, high school, uh, in Selma. All right, tell 00:07:02.778 --> 00:07:07.955 us about the historical events that were happening in Selma. Well, there 00:07:07.988 --> 00:07:15.387 were, as you know, some really um uh earth shaking events that were 00:07:15.420 --> 00:07:23.420 occurring in Selma uh during the uh during the 60s. Uh and I. have had a 00:07:24.298 --> 00:07:26.916 very unique. 00:07:26.949 --> 00:07:33.007 Opportunity during those years to to meet uh with uh Doctor King, uh, 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:38.726 because oftentimes I would play for the rallies that they would have in 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:46.759 the city around at various churches, so I got to go to a lot of those uh 00:07:47.108 --> 00:07:51.955 activities and would often play for the mass singing, uh, that would take 00:07:51.988 --> 00:07:59.245 place uh in those situations. And of course as you know, um, the, the 00:07:59.278 --> 00:08:05.187 movement there uh took on a certain uh momentum that was bigger than Selma 00:08:05.220 --> 00:08:11.637 uh itself uh that is that it involved people from all over the country, uh 00:08:11.670 --> 00:08:17.916 , going to Selma uh and other areas, participating, uh, in, uh, rallies of 00:08:17.949 --> 00:08:25.305 various sorts, uh, uh, in the interest of uh civil rights. 00:08:25.338 --> 00:08:31.676 My name is Madeline Wright. And at the time of my retirement from ASU, I 00:08:31.709 --> 00:08:37.206 was the academic scheduling manager administrative staff. When you were in 00:08:37.239 --> 00:08:40.596 the registrar's office and in charge of records, uh, were there any 00:08:40.629 --> 00:08:43.686 interesting stories that, uh, you might tell us about what happened there 00:08:43.719 --> 00:08:51.719 ? Many, many stories and uh things like athletic eligibility. And uh They 00:08:55.750 --> 00:09:03.275 That was complicated. You had to decide, you had to do itemized paperwork 00:09:03.308 --> 00:09:11.217 on a students complete history. Uh, before he could play as an athlete. 00:09:11.250 --> 00:09:19.186 And uh It was we had a great coach, but one who would wait till the last 00:09:19.219 --> 00:09:25.307 minute. Frank Kush called uh secretary called me one night at 5 o'clock 00:09:25.340 --> 00:09:32.066 and uh wanted me to clear one of the students for Saturday playing. Well, 00:09:32.099 --> 00:09:35.946 that takes a good hour and a half or more to to clear one of the students 00:09:35.979 --> 00:09:42.775 , and I said I just can't do it. My husband and I have plans and etc. and 00:09:42.808 --> 00:09:49.557 uh. His secretary turned and told Frank what I had said. Well, he had a 00:09:49.590 --> 00:09:57.590 pretty good vocal quality and um and he let out a stream of of words that 00:09:58.729 --> 00:10:06.346 we won't mention here and uh and he came to the phone then and when he 00:10:06.379 --> 00:10:14.379 said Madeline, and I said, Frank, I love you too and 00:10:14.739 --> 00:10:19.936 Needless to say, he was pretty handy at convincing you you should do what 00:10:19.969 --> 00:10:27.186 he wants to do. So, well into the evening, I finished that up so that his 00:10:27.219 --> 00:10:34.196 boy could play. My husband was not happy. 00:10:34.229 --> 00:10:39.196 Hi, I'm Colleen Jennings Road, the executive director of Arizona State 00:10:39.229 --> 00:10:41.927 University. 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:48.576 And I am here with Clyde Parker, the famous technical director of ASU 00:10:48.609 --> 00:10:54.246 Gamage. There was a line between MU and what was then East Hall. So there 00:10:54.279 --> 00:11:00.086 was no Hayden library. No, it was Matthew's library, yeah. Where Jerry 00:11:00.119 --> 00:11:04.167 Lewis filmed The Nutty Professor. Yes. You're quick and if you watch the 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:11.667 wide screen version of that, you can barely see my left foot exit. 00:11:11.700 --> 00:11:15.657 The other funny thing about that, that movie, uh, yeah, well, we, a lot of 00:11:15.690 --> 00:11:19.875 us were hired as extras and then everybody and their brothers showed up, 00:11:19.908 --> 00:11:23.936 uh. One of the, the opening scenes of the movie or at least uh of the 00:11:23.969 --> 00:11:31.969 filming, uh, supposedly the 90 professor 00:11:32.239 --> 00:11:35.057 science building and there's billowing out through the window and they 00:11:35.090 --> 00:11:39.057 were using, you know, the building, the sciences building cause that's, it 00:11:39.090 --> 00:11:45.236 says science. And uh so there's all this smoke billowing out and what does 00:11:45.269 --> 00:11:53.269 this shot show a bunch of students running into a. 00:11:53.739 --> 00:11:59.996 My name is uh Brent Whiting Brown. And I was an associate professor in the 00:12:00.029 --> 00:12:05.096 School of Public Affairs. I was a student here at Arizona State University. 00:12:05.129 --> 00:12:09.696 As an undergraduate, that was before my, my graduate days, but, uh, I was 00:12:09.729 --> 00:12:15.375 taking a class from Ross Rice. And it was legislative relations, and we 00:12:15.408 --> 00:12:20.525 had to write a paper for that class. And so I decided to write it on the 00:12:20.558 --> 00:12:25.525 appropriations process. And my brother was in the legislature then. My 00:12:25.558 --> 00:12:29.657 brother is Jack Brown. He's still in the legislature. He's a minority 00:12:29.690 --> 00:12:33.657 leader in the Senate still, but he's, he's been there 30 years, and he was 00:12:33.690 --> 00:12:37.976 on the Appropriations Committee, and so I attended the appropriations 00:12:38.009 --> 00:12:42.186 hearings. And one day while I was down there, they kicked everybody out of 00:12:42.219 --> 00:12:45.667 the appropriations Committee. That was before the days of the open meeting 00:12:45.700 --> 00:12:51.356 law. And, ah, so I stuck around outside to see what was going on and when 00:12:51.389 --> 00:12:54.076 they finally broke up an hour or so later, I asked Jack, well, what 00:12:54.109 --> 00:12:59.186 happened? And he said, well, he said, Swede Johnson, who is the UFA vice 00:12:59.219 --> 00:13:03.967 president, wrote the budgets for the three universities. And I said, well 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:09.297 , where was ASU? he says, and NAU. He says they weren't at the table. And 00:13:09.330 --> 00:13:16.537 so I knew that uh that uh at that point in time that ASU was way behind in 00:13:16.570 --> 00:13:21.116 terms of influence at the legislature. And little did I know that years 00:13:21.149 --> 00:13:25.275 later I would become the lobbyist for the university and help to correct 00:13:25.308 --> 00:13:31.667 that. And it was a battle, but uh we did turn the tide and were able to 00:13:31.700 --> 00:13:35.307 get some equity with the University of Arizona, but it was not an easy 00:13:35.340 --> 00:13:40.586 process. It was long, hard, and uh we had a lot of political battles. The 00:13:40.619 --> 00:13:46.586 , the leadership. Of, of the house and the particularly the house, it 00:13:46.619 --> 00:13:52.206 always depended upon the University of Arizona. Ah, supporters to, to kind 00:13:52.239 --> 00:13:57.167 of bring things to closure and to balance it. And there was a group of, uh 00:13:57.200 --> 00:14:04.936 , of people elected from Maricopa County who, ah, Started to take ASU 00:14:04.969 --> 00:14:10.236 under their wing. There were people like Tony West and Carl Kanassic. And 00:14:10.269 --> 00:14:15.667 the first thing that they took on Was the capital budgets, they always 00:14:15.700 --> 00:14:19.505 appropriated more money for the UA for capital budgets than they did for 00:14:19.538 --> 00:14:24.226 ASU even though we had more students and we had a greater need because we 00:14:24.259 --> 00:14:29.566 were growing faster. And so they took a stand one year and said they would 00:14:29.599 --> 00:14:34.326 not support the budget unless there was some equity built in there. And 00:14:34.359 --> 00:14:39.246 that started the process of uh the leadership having to pay attention to 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:44.807 ASU and then it kind of mushroomed from there. But it wasn't just the 00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:48.566 legislature that it was a big problem. It was the the board of regents 00:14:48.599 --> 00:14:54.667 that was so tightly controlled by the UA. And we were way underfunded in 00:14:54.700 --> 00:15:00.765 the formulas that they use just for, for teaching. You know, student ratio 00:15:00.798 --> 00:15:06.525 , you know, students, uh, 22 to 1, we were way out of balance, and they 00:15:06.558 --> 00:15:12.885 were just, you know, so much better funded than we were, and, uh, one year 00:15:12.918 --> 00:15:18.657 the regents allowed us to ask for some catch up positions. 00:15:18.690 --> 00:15:21.927 And I think that the only reason that the regents did that is that they 00:15:21.960 --> 00:15:26.196 didn't think that we could, ah, That we could get that through the 00:15:26.229 --> 00:15:30.476 legislature and they allowed us to ask that year and we we did it. We 00:15:30.509 --> 00:15:38.417 caught, we had 52 new positions that were not funded at the UFA in the 00:15:38.450 --> 00:15:42.196 same ratio. They were catch up. There was new money for ASU. That was the 00:15:42.229 --> 00:15:46.635 first time that we really broke down the barriers and started to get some 00:15:46.668 --> 00:15:53.566 equity between the two. That was in 1980. 00:15:53.599 --> 00:15:56.158 80, I think.