WEBVTT 00:00:00.709 --> 00:00:06.476 Um, this is Boris Solis interviewing for Creative Push on December 00:00:06.509 --> 00:00:13.937 14th at um 11 o'clock. And can you give me your name and your age? Delfina 00:00:13.970 --> 00:00:19.396 Geos, 61 years old. Excellent. All right, so if you can uh tell us about 00:00:19.429 --> 00:00:23.317 the family history like you were saying, OK, well, from what I understand 00:00:23.350 --> 00:00:29.977 , our our family came from Spain. And originally our name was Maas. It 00:00:30.010 --> 00:00:36.726 didn't have the TAS at the end. And uh Trinidad, Colorado is named after 00:00:36.759 --> 00:00:41.315 one of the great great uncles, Trinidad Maestas. 00:00:41.348 --> 00:00:47.467 And they owned apparently most of the land from. In New Mexico, there were 00:00:47.500 --> 00:00:49.777 cattlemen. 00:00:49.810 --> 00:00:54.695 But as as people started coming in, they started homesteading and bringing 00:00:54.728 --> 00:01:02.728 the land further north and further north. And um Apparently, uh. It was a 00:01:03.700 --> 00:01:10.266 very wealthy family. The Maesta's family. And um 00:01:10.299 --> 00:01:14.105 Eventually in time it just kept going north and north. The majority of our 00:01:14.138 --> 00:01:20.587 family lives up to the northern part past Cuba. And uh my father left 00:01:20.620 --> 00:01:27.165 there and came homesteaded in Corralis where he raised 10 children. 5 00:01:27.198 --> 00:01:30.105 girls and 5 boys. 00:01:30.138 --> 00:01:33.055 And uh 00:01:33.088 --> 00:01:39.415 Still to the day my my brother lives in my mother's home. And um Of course 00:01:39.448 --> 00:01:44.576 we're all scattered around a little bit. There's only 7 of us left. But, 00:01:44.609 --> 00:01:46.605 um. 00:01:46.638 --> 00:01:54.477 Uh, my older sister now is 84 years old. What brought you here? I married 00:01:54.510 --> 00:02:01.605 a man from here. And uh eventually, uh, I just stayed. After he left, I 00:02:01.638 --> 00:02:06.727 stayed and raised my other children here. And I remarried to the Gallego's 00:02:06.760 --> 00:02:13.876 family and uh We've just lived here already over 40 some years. 00:02:13.909 --> 00:02:19.245 Um, so can you tell us about, so was that the father of your first child, 00:02:19.278 --> 00:02:22.927 your first husband? My first husband was, was a child of my first two 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:28.696 children. Richard and Lucy. And then I remarried and I have a daughter now 00:02:28.729 --> 00:02:33.316 with, her name is Gabriella. So can you tell us about how you and that man 00:02:33.349 --> 00:02:38.427 met? Had you planned on starting a family? Not really, you know, after, 00:02:38.460 --> 00:02:44.066 after divorce and stuff, you're kind of holding back. But uh he's a very 00:02:44.099 --> 00:02:48.827 nice man. But how about that first marriage, your, your first, um, it was 00:02:48.860 --> 00:02:55.745 a trying marriage uh he he drink and stuff like that, so I figured I 00:02:55.778 --> 00:03:00.717 worked all the time. I constantly worked and I said one day, if I'm gonna 00:03:00.750 --> 00:03:07.055 support him, I'm gonna support my children instead. So I let him go. 00:03:07.088 --> 00:03:12.566 And uh we were still friends till the end. He passed away four years ago, 00:03:12.599 --> 00:03:15.305 but um. 00:03:15.338 --> 00:03:21.520 It it's just a crying thing and and and it's just something that that are. 00:03:22.508 --> 00:03:24.508 Our ourselves have to try to keep our families together. It doesn't matter. 00:03:29.389 --> 00:03:32.267 How bad it is. 00:03:32.300 --> 00:03:39.416 My mother raised us loving each other. And um I think that's one of the 00:03:39.449 --> 00:03:43.457 most important things here in New Mexico, is that families try to stay 00:03:43.490 --> 00:03:49.505 together for as long as possible. And we teach our children who their 00:03:49.538 --> 00:03:51.866 family is. 00:03:51.899 --> 00:03:56.767 Very important. Very, very important because you never, you don't want 00:03:56.800 --> 00:04:04.305 them to marry into each other's family. Because blood attracts blood. And 00:04:04.338 --> 00:04:09.626 a lot of times we have met people that end up being our cousins. 00:04:09.659 --> 00:04:15.096 We have a family reunion every 2 years on my father's side of the family. 00:04:15.129 --> 00:04:21.805 And we have over 500 people that show up that are family members. 00:04:21.838 --> 00:04:26.305 From all over the United States. 00:04:26.338 --> 00:04:30.187 Did you guys talk about, um, like were you, did your mother talk to you 00:04:30.220 --> 00:04:35.745 about birth or did you witness any births or raise your siblings? Well, 00:04:35.778 --> 00:04:41.796 yeah, yeah, I, I was witnessed a lot of the births, um. Uh, my, my nieces 00:04:41.829 --> 00:04:47.145 , I've been there at the birth of my children. I've always been there for 00:04:47.178 --> 00:04:50.176 them, um. 00:04:50.209 --> 00:04:52.947 And 00:04:52.980 --> 00:05:00.980 It's a, it's a very beautiful thing to be there present. And um 00:05:01.889 --> 00:05:07.055 My sisters and we all raise each other's children. 00:05:07.088 --> 00:05:11.856 That's what I miss a lot about not living at home. Because the whole 00:05:11.889 --> 00:05:16.967 family lives down the road from each other. And uh we all raised each 00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:23.356 other's children and as we, as we grew up, I was the youngest of the girls. 00:05:23.389 --> 00:05:28.046 So usually in the summer I had like 10 kids to watch. But it wasn't a 00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:33.026 burden because where there was 10, it was the same as having 3. They 00:05:33.059 --> 00:05:39.036 entertain themselves. And my mother was always one to say, you know, if, 00:05:39.069 --> 00:05:43.817 if they carry your blood, they're here at home. 00:05:43.850 --> 00:05:49.406 So we have children from all races in our family. 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:53.036 And there are a lot of children. 00:05:53.069 --> 00:05:59.145 How old were you when you had your first child? I was 17. Did you feel 00:05:59.178 --> 00:06:07.067 prepared? Yes, because by the time I was 10 years old, I would go out and 00:06:07.100 --> 00:06:11.906 and clean houses, mind you, or help my mother clean restaurants or 00:06:11.939 --> 00:06:16.895 whatever she did. My father always worked away from home. Because he had 00:06:16.928 --> 00:06:24.928 hurt his back and um. He came home and he'd come home every 2 or 3 years. 00:06:24.970 --> 00:06:30.426 So we helped Mother. Mother practically raised us all. By the time I was, 00:06:30.459 --> 00:06:37.055 by the time I was born, my oldest sister had already married. And my and 00:06:37.088 --> 00:06:43.567 my brother was helping my father in where he was working. 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:47.656 And Uh, 00:06:47.689 --> 00:06:50.765 My 00:06:50.798 --> 00:06:55.967 I well my second oldest sister too. Uh, she had a, I have a nephew the 00:06:56.000 --> 00:07:01.895 same age as as myself. So she was already married. Do you know if you were 00:07:01.928 --> 00:07:07.257 born in a hospital? Yes, I was born at the doctor's hospital, the old UNM 00:07:07.290 --> 00:07:14.036 hospital. It's a black building next to you and him. Um, 00:07:14.069 --> 00:07:19.187 That was the only practically the only hospital there was back then. It's 00:07:19.220 --> 00:07:25.305 um It's a very small building. And and if you go into town, I think it's 00:07:25.338 --> 00:07:29.455 still there. The doctor's hospital. Where did you give birth when you were 00:07:29.488 --> 00:07:34.265 17? At the UNM Hospital. 00:07:34.298 --> 00:07:38.765 Which was the only, the only hos well, it wasn't the only hospital, but it 00:07:38.798 --> 00:07:44.776 was the only one that that lower income people would go to. So, you know, 00:07:44.809 --> 00:07:52.697 then my second child I had her at the um. Uh, University Heights Hospital 00:07:52.730 --> 00:07:57.536 was just down the road from UNM. Did you, how did you feel about your 00:07:57.569 --> 00:08:03.296 first pregnancy? How was the experience of being pregnant for you? 00:08:03.329 --> 00:08:06.916 I thought it was beautiful. I thought it was a beautiful thing because 00:08:06.949 --> 00:08:11.796 it's gonna be something that was mine for me to, to raise, for me to teach 00:08:11.829 --> 00:08:19.046 , for me to. To be able to hold and say no, nobody's gonna ask me to take 00:08:19.079 --> 00:08:24.336 him back. And I had already been raising all my my nephews and nieces, so 00:08:24.369 --> 00:08:29.317 I knew how to do it. I mean, uh, my mother was very, very strong on common 00:08:29.350 --> 00:08:31.575 sense. 00:08:31.608 --> 00:08:35.015 What we learned, we learned to cook, we learned to clean, we learned to 00:08:35.048 --> 00:08:40.225 sew, we learned everything. Work the fields. 00:08:40.258 --> 00:08:48.258 Everything we did, we did. We canned all summer long. We dried fruit. 00:08:48.349 --> 00:08:52.395 To make things and you know, through the winter, we could make it through 00:08:52.428 --> 00:08:57.816 the winter cause there's so many of us. There was times I remember. When 00:08:57.849 --> 00:09:04.086 we were younger and apparently mother didn't have enough. And uh She'd 00:09:04.119 --> 00:09:08.807 feed us all and then she'd ask, we, we'd all row stand in a row next to 00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:12.366 her and she'd said, OK, open your mouth, let me see if we're full. And 00:09:12.399 --> 00:09:18.407 she'd say yes. Oh yes, OK, you can go play. And we to us it was 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:21.135 psychological. 00:09:21.168 --> 00:09:25.686 And um But 00:09:25.719 --> 00:09:30.846 Being raised actually in Corrales where I was raised. It was the most 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:35.086 beautiful things. Neighbors helped each other. It was just like, it was 00:09:35.119 --> 00:09:41.967 back, back, back in the days where farmers would help each other and 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:46.385 neighbors or neighbors. It's, it's a horrible thing now that we can't do 00:09:46.418 --> 00:09:51.275 that. Yeah, we were noticing a lot of people have their homes fenced off 00:09:51.308 --> 00:09:57.217 and. You, you were so approachable, you know, and friendly. Uh, I, I don't 00:09:57.250 --> 00:10:03.135 like to. I love people. I don't like to keep him away that much, but it's 00:10:03.168 --> 00:10:08.936 um. But it's harder and harder to do every day, you know, even families 00:10:08.969 --> 00:10:16.275 learn to. To distance themselves from from each other. We try to keep our 00:10:16.308 --> 00:10:20.846 our immediate family together. We try to get together at least once a year 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:24.275 so we can see each other and meet our children because a lot of them we 00:10:24.308 --> 00:10:30.265 don't know. Um, do you remember your when you gave birth to your first 00:10:30.298 --> 00:10:36.566 child, um, did you? Did you take medication? Did you practice any special 00:10:36.599 --> 00:10:41.907 , you know, breathing or anything like that? Not really. You just went in 00:10:41.940 --> 00:10:45.116 there and had a child. 00:10:45.149 --> 00:10:50.686 My sister went with me, I remember that. And uh basically, either my 00:10:50.719 --> 00:10:56.775 mother or my sisters would be with me, and I had my children. It's it's 00:10:56.808 --> 00:11:04.808 just comforting. Were there any um family kind of superstitions or you 00:11:05.070 --> 00:11:07.667 know things that you should eat or shouldn't eat or anything like that? 00:11:07.700 --> 00:11:12.525 Yes. But my, well, my mother, my mother was always one that once we had a 00:11:12.558 --> 00:11:17.206 child, we couldn't have, we couldn't have anything that made us too gassy. 00:11:17.239 --> 00:11:21.606 We couldn't have things that we had a lot of protein. We had a lot of 00:11:21.639 --> 00:11:29.586 chicken, a lot of um. If we had beef, pork was kind of. Off to the side 00:11:29.619 --> 00:11:37.537 because supposedly it caused infections and things like that. And um. 00:11:37.570 --> 00:11:42.436 Beans was another thing nobody could have. So you ate really like after 00:11:42.469 --> 00:11:50.469 that, you ate really like foods so. Until about About the 3rd week, then 00:11:51.629 --> 00:11:56.635 you could start, you know, introducing your body back into regular food. 00:11:56.668 --> 00:12:02.375 Did you know the baby sucks before you had them? No. Never knew. So what 00:12:02.408 --> 00:12:06.135 was that experience when you know they did they pull up the baby and say 00:12:06.168 --> 00:12:12.967 you have a boy or how well yeah because uh back then if you were, you had 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:18.816 an ultrasound only if you needed it. And that was very, very few and far 00:12:18.849 --> 00:12:26.145 between, so. Yeah, you just wait and see. Yeah, you have a boy, which is 00:12:26.178 --> 00:12:31.047 great, you know, if you have a girl that's even it's good too. The the 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:36.096 only thing I would turn and see if if who they look like. 00:12:36.129 --> 00:12:40.875 Yeah. My son looked like his uncle and my my my daughter looked like my 00:12:40.908 --> 00:12:48.657 brother and, and my youngest daughter looked like her dad. It's just You 00:12:48.690 --> 00:12:55.645 just wanna see them completely to make sure that they're. That they're um. 00:12:55.678 --> 00:13:01.236 Perfect in every way. And even if they're not perfect, they're yours. You 00:13:01.269 --> 00:13:06.736 accept them anyway, the Lord sends them, you know. So did you stay at the 00:13:06.769 --> 00:13:10.976 hospital longer or did you go home? Uh, when my first child, we had to 00:13:11.009 --> 00:13:16.686 stay there about a week. Which is strange and then the second one, We're 00:13:16.719 --> 00:13:23.206 sent home after 3 days. And then, and then the 3rd 1 also 3 days. That's 00:13:23.239 --> 00:13:29.797 longest they would keep us there. Now they don't, 2 days you're out. 00:13:29.830 --> 00:13:36.116 Did you nurse? I nursed very little. I couldn't, I couldn't develop that 00:13:36.149 --> 00:13:44.149 much milk. That which I wanted to, but. It wasn't it. So I had to bottle 00:13:45.029 --> 00:13:49.427 feed him most of the time. In your family, did women nurse each other's 00:13:49.460 --> 00:13:56.005 children? Well, actually I did with my 2nd child. Because, uh, when I had 00:13:56.038 --> 00:14:02.755 my second child, I, I heed. And I had to go back to the to the hospital 00:14:02.788 --> 00:14:08.816 and they sent me to my mother's house. Um, Because I have to stay flat on 00:14:08.849 --> 00:14:11.025 my back. 00:14:11.058 --> 00:14:17.436 So when I, when I was when I would nursing, the baby was too small. And I 00:14:17.469 --> 00:14:22.135 had to hold her like this. You know, over my chest to be able to feed her 00:14:22.168 --> 00:14:26.657 , and she wasn't feeding me enough. So, 00:14:26.690 --> 00:14:29.586 My sister had twins. 00:14:29.619 --> 00:14:33.005 And my mother called her and said, bring the girls over. This girl is 00:14:33.038 --> 00:14:40.657 ready to explode here. I was just so full that one time and. She did, she 00:14:40.690 --> 00:14:45.606 brought the twins over 11 took it, the other one didn't. But the one that 00:14:45.639 --> 00:14:52.308 did drained both breasts and she loved it. She slept for two days almost. 00:14:54.229 --> 00:14:56.229 And uh 00:14:57.619 --> 00:15:01.996 That those are the only ones that I, I nursed myself, and they're the ones 00:15:02.029 --> 00:15:06.696 that are more attached. Yeah. 00:15:06.729 --> 00:15:12.226 Interesting. Was there anything about the experience that surprised you? 00:15:12.259 --> 00:15:18.606 Not really. It was, it was whatever mother said she knew what to do. 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:22.417 You know it's just uh. 00:15:22.450 --> 00:15:27.177 We, we survive, you know, it doesn't matter what it takes, you survive. 00:15:27.210 --> 00:15:30.586 And and that was the main thing is getting me well enough to be able to 00:15:30.619 --> 00:15:35.057 take care of my baby. And 00:15:35.090 --> 00:15:40.736 And helping the other ones out too. You know. 00:15:40.769 --> 00:15:45.525 Well, she was the only one I nursed for 3 months, but then I had surgery 00:15:45.558 --> 00:15:49.645 after that, so I couldn't surgery that really was related to the birth or 00:15:49.678 --> 00:15:54.515 no, no, I had eye surgery then. 00:15:54.548 --> 00:16:00.186 Were your birth similar to your children's births? 00:16:00.219 --> 00:16:06.606 My mother never really talked about it. About our burst. Uh, the only one 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:13.515 I remember her talking to me about was. Uh, One of she lost one of my 00:16:13.548 --> 00:16:15.525 brothers. 00:16:15.558 --> 00:16:22.956 Who was stillborn. And the pregnancy after that. The baby was like 00:16:22.989 --> 00:16:29.866 floating around in there just. Just wasn't uh steady enough in her belly. 00:16:29.899 --> 00:16:33.996 And, and when she, when she delivered that baby, it was, it was a hard 00:16:34.029 --> 00:16:40.186 labor. But I don't know if it was because the other baby they had to. Get 00:16:40.219 --> 00:16:46.407 him out forcefully and he came out bottom first. So I think that messed 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:51.236 her up inside, but she still had children after that. Which is kind of 00:16:51.269 --> 00:16:57.116 hard, kind of hard because. Back then, if, if you had to be real careful 00:16:57.149 --> 00:17:00.547 because you worked so hard. 00:17:00.580 --> 00:17:04.877 And that's what a lot of girls now don't know, you know, they have their 00:17:04.910 --> 00:17:12.426 children and they're off running. And um. Now, back then we had to, we had 00:17:12.459 --> 00:17:18.226 to make sure that everything was back in place and everything was, was 00:17:18.259 --> 00:17:21.266 ready for whatever, you didn't have children right away. You had them 00:17:21.299 --> 00:17:24.387 about every 2 years. 00:17:24.420 --> 00:17:28.325 Naturally. And 00:17:28.358 --> 00:17:33.347 Um I think that's what it was is that when you took care of yourself, 00:17:33.380 --> 00:17:38.305 binding yourself, you really had to support your back and everything 00:17:38.338 --> 00:17:42.107 because we had so much hard work to do that. We had a lot of fields to 00:17:42.140 --> 00:17:48.166 plow, we had Gardens to grow, you know, it was an ending, never ending 00:17:48.199 --> 00:17:53.186 story. In the winter, the same thing, we had wood to chop. Well I was 00:17:53.219 --> 00:18:00.516 raised in a home where we didn't have no gas. All we had was wood. Um, 00:18:00.549 --> 00:18:03.795 We uh. 00:18:03.828 --> 00:18:07.976 Go out and and have to sweep the snow and everything back then we got a 00:18:08.009 --> 00:18:13.045 lot of snow. We had up to 4 or 5 ft of snow. I remember that. Which we 00:18:13.078 --> 00:18:18.585 haven't had in a long time. So can you talk about that binding? Is that 00:18:18.618 --> 00:18:23.335 the binding basically it was is to keep the uterus, get your uterus to go 00:18:23.368 --> 00:18:27.976 back in place and it'll firm it because when the babies are nursing that 00:18:28.009 --> 00:18:32.295 those muscles are being pulled so when you firm that it brings everything 00:18:32.328 --> 00:18:36.696 back into place like my mother used to say where it's supposed to go. 00:18:36.729 --> 00:18:41.377 Because that's why I think a lot of people have the uteruses that drop. 00:18:41.410 --> 00:18:46.315 Because they never enforced them to. Just go back into the place where 00:18:46.348 --> 00:18:49.986 they're supposed to, even though you're not nursing, binding was a very 00:18:50.019 --> 00:18:54.075 good thing. My mother put us with tight jeans you know something that 00:18:54.108 --> 00:18:59.377 wouldn't stretch. It had to be something hard that wasn't gonna stretch. 00:18:59.410 --> 00:19:04.335 Do you know, um, in your family history when people stopped having home 00:19:04.368 --> 00:19:08.147 births? 00:19:08.180 --> 00:19:13.075 I believe that was like back in the 50s. Because that's where my parents 00:19:13.108 --> 00:19:21.108 came from up north. And Her last My my sister was born at home, and after 00:19:21.910 --> 00:19:26.795 that, everybody else was born in the hospital. Our family, uh-huh. Did 00:19:26.828 --> 00:19:30.127 your mom ever talk about the differences of, you know, home birth and the 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:33.097 hospital birth? 00:19:33.130 --> 00:19:38.416 Not really, not that I remember, but there it was very, very harsh. My 00:19:38.449 --> 00:19:43.815 oldest sister tells me all the time that she was having a very hard time 00:19:43.848 --> 00:19:50.026 having one of her children at the hospital. To the point where. I mean, 00:19:50.059 --> 00:19:55.467 she couldn't have it and it was just like it was um like forcing them to 00:19:55.500 --> 00:19:58.627 have it naturally. 00:19:58.660 --> 00:20:03.476 She had her naturally, but she almost died. They put her, they actually 00:20:03.509 --> 00:20:06.055 put her in the morgue. 00:20:06.088 --> 00:20:12.637 And And when she woke up. The nurse was in there collecting stuff and she 00:20:12.670 --> 00:20:16.436 asked her for for a blanket because she was cold and nurse almost 00:20:16.469 --> 00:20:19.006 collapsed. 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:24.186 But it was, he said at that time, says the doctors weren't the same as 00:20:24.219 --> 00:20:29.496 they are now. I mean now. They have so much technology and back then they 00:20:29.529 --> 00:20:34.575 had to depend on their hands and what they hear. 00:20:34.608 --> 00:20:41.976 So that was your mom. That was my sister, my oldest sister. 00:20:42.009 --> 00:20:46.877 She said, uh, she said she had a very, very, very hard time back then. And 00:20:46.910 --> 00:20:50.585 that her kids were born in the hospital. 00:20:50.618 --> 00:20:55.545 So, um, were you there for your children's births? I mean, your, your 00:20:55.578 --> 00:21:01.117 grandchildren, my grandchildren's, uh, yes. For my daughters, my son lived 00:21:01.150 --> 00:21:06.535 in Colorado, so I couldn't be there, but. My daughters have been with them 00:21:06.568 --> 00:21:14.276 all through it. And and It's a, it's um. 00:21:14.309 --> 00:21:21.906 It's exciting to see those babies be born. In different positions. 00:21:21.939 --> 00:21:28.967 Because Not everybody has them flat on their back. I had a niece that had 00:21:29.000 --> 00:21:36.956 hers and all for hands and knees. And I have a daughter and one had one of 00:21:36.989 --> 00:21:40.835 her standing. You know, 00:21:40.868 --> 00:21:44.696 And the rest were all just flat on their back, but I, I think it all 00:21:44.729 --> 00:21:47.276 depends on how. 00:21:47.309 --> 00:21:51.156 How their pain is less. 00:21:51.189 --> 00:21:54.555 Whatever is comfortable for the mother, and I don't think they should be 00:21:54.588 --> 00:22:00.335 forced. So did you try to lay on their backs if they, if it doesn't, if it 00:22:00.368 --> 00:22:05.847 doesn't work. Because it's hard because not everybody's made the same. 00:22:05.880 --> 00:22:10.597 Were you forced to lay on your back? Yeah. Yeah, when only one doctor told 00:22:10.630 --> 00:22:16.166 me I had, I had fallen down. And 00:22:16.199 --> 00:22:20.906 The baby would come, but you wouldn't come out, and he told me, he says, 00:22:20.939 --> 00:22:25.226 get on all fours, get on your hands and knees and have 2 or 3 contractions 00:22:25.259 --> 00:22:30.617 like that, and I felt her drop, and she was born like that afterwards. So 00:22:30.650 --> 00:22:36.456 I figured maybe when I fell. And I had a fever on my back or something, 00:22:36.489 --> 00:22:42.347 the, the placenta might have stuck to it. See, and that's That's what a 00:22:42.380 --> 00:22:48.156 lot of people don't understand. Is that whenever you fall or or or have 00:22:48.189 --> 00:22:52.906 something like that, the placenta is the one that gets damaged, not the 00:22:52.939 --> 00:22:56.835 babies. That sound is really loud. Do you know what that is? It's my 00:22:56.868 --> 00:23:04.868 pressure cooker. Do you want me to do something? I'll wait. 00:23:04.939 --> 00:23:12.939 I thought it was the noise getting louder. I was like it it's like no. 00:23:15.430 --> 00:23:20.186 The only way I can stop it to turn out. Oh no, it's it's OK. We can wrap 00:23:20.219 --> 00:23:28.219 it up, yeah, it'll be good. Um Is there So if you, let's say you're giving 00:23:28.549 --> 00:23:31.647 this recording to your daughters and and they're going to give it to their 00:23:31.680 --> 00:23:36.456 grandchildren, is there anything you wanna say? Well, the, the one thing 00:23:36.489 --> 00:23:40.706 I'm gonna tell him is that whatever God sends you is a blessing. It 00:23:40.739 --> 00:23:47.206 doesn't matter whether it's perfect or not. Because he knows what you need 00:23:47.239 --> 00:23:55.239 in your life, and he knows, um, What's best for you as a person? 00:23:55.259 --> 00:24:02.815 These children are sent to be loved. And to be taken care of. And to grow 00:24:02.848 --> 00:24:09.946 up to be. Men and women of, of, of uh knowledge. 00:24:09.979 --> 00:24:16.906 And experience the happiness you get from them. Because children are only 00:24:16.939 --> 00:24:23.196 joy. That's all they are. And um 00:24:23.229 --> 00:24:28.236 I, I really, really expressed to everyone, you know, abortion is not the 00:24:28.269 --> 00:24:31.035 way. 00:24:31.068 --> 00:24:36.867 Uh, there's always somebody out there to love them. 00:24:36.900 --> 00:24:42.618 Excellent. I think that's wonderful. OK, so we're going to stop.