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 But you're gonna have to say your name for me. Oh, OK. So my name is Shay

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, um, Vi Hill, V Hill. That's right.
OK. So this is for Solis, um,

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interviewing Shay Veil on May 28th,
2016 at about 1:15 p.m. for the

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Creative Push project. OK, now we're
ready. All right, so if you could

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start as far back as the conception.
Planned unplanned. Oh gosh, the

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ketchup, the conception of my daughter
was unplanned, uh, it was in my.

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Last year of high school, my senior
year in high school, and my boyfriend

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was in his first year in college, so.
I actually didn't at the time live

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with my parents or I was actually
living inside of my friend's house. So

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at the time, that's when I used to go
over to the dorms to see him a lot

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and um our daughter wasn't planned at
all. So how did you find out? Were

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you just like, I'm a superior? Yeah,
when um signs showing. When, uh, I

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found out when I was pregnant.

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Oh gosh.

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Well, the first indicator was I
started to feel some minor backaches, and

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it was uncomfortable because I've
never had backaches at the time because

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I was 18 at the time and I've never
experienced having a backache before.

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And when I realized it was really
uncomfortable and I didn't really know

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what it was at first, like I didn't
really lift anything and I was young

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before, so I didn't like lifting
things didn't really affect me that much.

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So just that uncomfortable pain I felt
was something new and I was just

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concerned about it. And it wasn't
until later on, like I realized I was

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late on my period about a week and
that's when I went to go tell my

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boyfriend I was late on my period. And
then the nausea came and I noticed

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my senses sense and smell was more
sharper and it was just horrible. I, I

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didn't like the smell of meats. I
didn't like the smell of bacon was the

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main thing I didn't like the smell of.
It made me so sick. It's

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interesting. We've heard a lot of meat
smells. Yeah.

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So were you emotionally when you found
out? When we were emotional, uh, I

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was emotional. Because actually I come
from my family. My mother was a

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young parent as well. She had me when
she was 16 and one of the first

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emotions I felt was I was excited, but
then I felt like I also, I let my

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family down again because I'm going to
be repeating the same footsteps as

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my mom, and that I felt like I was
kind of disappointed in myself at the

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time too because I always thought I
wouldn't be that person. But overall,

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what came over me as I was really
excited actually because. Uh, I always

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thought of myself as a mother figure
to begin with because I have two

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younger brothers. I'm the oldest side
of my family. And I have my two

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little brothers that I used to watch
all the time. My youngest one at the

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, my youngest brother at the time was
3 years old, so I'd watch him and

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he'd basically be like in a sense kind
of like my own child. I would take

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care of him in that way. I'd change
him clean and bathe them and make sure

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he was fed as the old sister, I'd
always watch that with him. And I was

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excited because oh gosh, as corny as
it sounds like you're in that teenage

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phase where you're you're like you
feel like you're in love with the

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person and I was so happy that you
know I was gonna have a child with me

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my my first love in high school so I
was really excited about that. Um,

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had you been around pregnant people or
seen any births or any had that

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much experience with the actual
process of birth pregnancy? With the

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actual experience with pregnancy, I
didn't have any experience at all. I

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only had the, I had some friends
again, uh,

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a lot of, I wanna say a lot. Some of
my friends actually in high school

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were like way pregnant before me and
they had children earlier, so. I only

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got to observe that at the time. I
didn't really have any family members

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or got to experience. I just heard and
I got to see some process of like a

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baby bump, but after a certain period
of time of seeing them, I'd stopped

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seeing them in high school and
unfortunately I had some friends who didn't

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even get to finish high school because
they were pregnant with their child

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at the time.

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So, um, how was the pregnancy?

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My pregnancy was.

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Oh my gosh, I went through so many.
Unexpected things, I guess. Um, I try

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to be as prepared as possible as I
could. Like my mother bought me a

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pregnancy book. I think it was called,
oh, I forgot the title of the book.

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like what, what to expect when
expecting so my mom got that for me and I

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would read it, but I, I remember I
didn't read it a lot or I didn't read

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it as frequently as I wanted to. It
was actually my boyfriend who read a

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lot of it before I did, so he would go
through and like read before like

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um when I'm at school he would go
ahead and read a bunch of what's going

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on and it wasn't until like I'm
showing signs he he'll bring up like, oh

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that's what you're experiencing,
you're experiencing. Nausea, you're,

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you're emotional because of this, and
he'd always explained to me why I'm

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like, how do you know this? I'm like,
I didn't even get to this in the

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book yet. Then he, he would beat me to
it and then I read it. I'm like, oh

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, you're really involved. So it was
nice. So he was supportive. Oh, he was

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my boyfriend was very supportive with
uh the whole pregnancy, uh. The

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going to find out or going to the
doctors when we first found out we were

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pregnant, uh. I guess he did his
research had a hand and he went out and.

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Found out I we either get a blood test
or had to go a urine test for me

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to or to find out if we were pregnant.
So what he did was he got me a

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giant cup of like Power aid and I
actually had to, he told me to finish it

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because it's most likely he's like
they're probably gonna draw blood or

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make you pee in the cup and I was
like, OK, so I drank this giant thing

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and I had to go to the bathroom so
bad. By the time we're at the doctor's

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and I was pacing back and forth, I'm
like, oh, they're gonna see us soon,

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right? And he's, he's like, don't pee
yet. Wait. I No.

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I think we're good. But uh yeah,

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so I was having to pee and I was
pacing back and forth in the lobby. I'm

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like, I need to go pee. He's like,
don't pee yet. They're gonna have to

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collect that. And it was funny because
the doctor got my information, he

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got my weight, he got my height. He
got my age and just checking in

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through that process. Uh, then he,
right when he saw showed me the cup and

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he's like, I need you to. I'm like,
OK, cool. So I just grabbed the cup

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and he's like, Oh yeah, you're gonna
go take a urine sample. So I was like

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, Oh nice. I was so happy actually to
run into the restroom. So that part

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was easy and when he told us that what
we were already expecting was the

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signs of when my boyfriend already
researched that, that we were pregnant

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with my daughter at the time. And That
was. Just the shock of that. It was

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really funny.

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I'm trying to remember how.

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It was just like a really nervous
shaking kind of a feeling and excited as

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well. Oh gosh, I repeated your
question. OK. Did you hear a heartbeat then

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, or did they just get the, they, they
just gave us the slip and uh they

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gave us a slip for the pregnancy and

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say that I was the pregnancy test was
positive. And that's when he was

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like, my boyfriend at the time, or my
boyfriend now. My boyfriend actually

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was uh really supportive from there
like from the first time we went to go

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to find out if I was pregnant too, he
went to every single doctor's

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appointment with me. Uh, and to, he
even had to. Basically beat my mom to

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the door to who's gonna hear the
heartbeat, um. I had to go back and forth

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between Flagstaff and to Winslow IHS
Hospital because I didn't have

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insurance in Flagstaff at the time or
I had access, but it was more

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convenient to go to an IHS. So. I had
to go to the Winslow Hospital back

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to Flagstaff for my wellness or what
are they called my prenatal checkups.

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So. When we were told that you're
gonna be going in for your ultrasound,

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I got super excited because I got to
see what was actually going around

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and moving like I felt like
butterflies or something swimming in my

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stomach all the time, so I was super
excited to go see and see her and see

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or hear the heartbeats. So my
boyfriend had to beat my mom to the door

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basically to who had to go in with me
because they only would allow one

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person to go in and my mom was really
worked up and my boyfriend was

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getting really upset, but my mom like
came to a conclusion she's like, yes

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, you know, you deserve to be in there
as much as I want to be, it should

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be you. So my mom actually let my
boyfriend come in with me and I was

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super excited. It was cold. I remember
when they stuck me inside that room

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, it was really dark and the room
looked like kind of scary. It was uh I

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never have good memories of the IHS,
so everything looked all scary in

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there for me, but when.

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They turn on the monitor. That's when
I saw my daughter for the first time

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, she she looked like a little bean.
And we didn't know what she was or

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whether she was a boy or girl, and
they kept, uh, it was too early at the

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time for us to know if she was a boy
or girl. And after the ultrasound

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when we saw her and saw her move and
we saw her she was too young to hear

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her heartbeat, but we did have a uh an
image of her at the end of the trip

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when we came back from Winslow. And it
was after that we were just talking

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about it, my boyfriend and I, whether
if we want to find out if we're

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having a boy or if we're having a
girl. Um, what we prefer or whether or

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not what we were hoping for, but we
decided that we wanted to keep it a

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secret. We don't want to know if our
baby was going to be or boy or girl.

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So this entire time there my whole
pregnancy, I never knew until she was

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born of who I was having. So that that
was actually fun. How was the um

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pregnancy part? I mean, did you gain a
lot of weight? Did you have nausea

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?

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The pregnancy when I found out or when
I was pregnant with my daughter, I

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felt.

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Oh gosh, I, it was funny. I gained
weight, but it was, um, as I was

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reading your the your husband or your
boyfriend or whoever we're supposed

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to like they're supposedly supposed to
be gaining sympathy weight with you

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or some of them do, but it was funny
because at the time I was going back

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and forth between my house and my
boyfriend. Friend's college and his

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roommate actually was a really good
friend of ours throughout high school

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as well, and he was the one picking up
my sympathy symptoms. He was

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telling me he's like, oh man, I'm
getting sick by the meat, and he was

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telling me like, I really want some
ice cream. So he'd come up and bring

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me ice cream or food and my boyfriend
was just like, why you? What's wrong

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with you guys in a sense. And it was
my, yeah, it was his roommate and our

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friend who was picking up my symptoms,
my sympathy symptoms with me. So he

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gained weight with me. It was funny.
How much weight did you put on? Oh

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gosh, I gained, I found out about. I
gained about 30 to, no, no, I gained

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40 pounds is what I did, um.

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When

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Before I was pregnant with my or
before my pregnancy, I actually.

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Uh oh what was it? No, I was actually
bad with a, I guess I didn't really.

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Since I didn't live with my parents, I
was only living with my friends.

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We didn't really necessarily eat every
like every 3 school or square meals

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a day. So it wasn't until I moved in
with my boyfriend and I like I had a

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set set home that that they're telling
me like, oh you don't eat 3 meals,

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but you're pregnant, so you have to
eat, right? So my metabolism, my

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metabolism was really slow. And so
when I actually started to eat like 3

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meals a day with with my uh with one
of my pregnancy. I gained weight like

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crazy and I was freaking out. I'm
like, oh my gosh, I only ate like this

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and it was like uh to have so much
food was really new to me because I

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only ate like one meal a day at the
time. And so I gained, yeah, I gained

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some weight and I think that was just
because I really didn't eat right to

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begin with. So when I was pregnant, my
in-laws made sure I was on top of

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it and with my meals and they were
good about it. They gave me like really

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good nutritious meals like they made
me like snacks, grapes, and they'll

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send me to my classes with bananas,
apples, strawberries. I craved

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strawberries is what I always really
liked and bagels.

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So, um, had you had an idea of the
kind of birth you wanted to have? I,

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with the kind of birth I was already
planning to have, or I wanted a Um, a

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kind of more.

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No, oh gosh, what is the term like I
didn't want to meddle

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or I didn't want like an epidural or
any like medications like that. I

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just wanted her to be natural and
hopefully without complications of a

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C-section, but I really wanted just a
normal pregnancy or like a normal

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birthing pregnancy, so. The kind of
birthing process I was planning, and I

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was trying to prepare myself for was
a. Um, just, just try to stay away

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from all the medical like an epidural.
I didn't want an epidural. I knew

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that when I was pregnant with her and.
I'm talking to my, what are they

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called midwives. Yes you had midwife
was the midwife associated with the

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hospital? I had a midwife and she was
associated with the hospital, I

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believe she was, she was really great
um that was actually once I

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transferred back from Winslow we got
um I got accepted to be on a

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different access plan that would be
covered in Flagstaff for my pregnancy

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because I was pregnant, so I was able
to be seen in Flagstaff, which made

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things way more convenient and I got
to be seen and I had this midwife

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doctor who was really, she was, she
helped us through the entire pregnancy.

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And She actually made her way and
cared for us because we were 17 or uh

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yeah, we were 18 and 18 at the time,
so she was really taking their

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precautious steps around with us and
telling us everything we need to know.

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So do you feel um confident going into
the birth experience, or were you

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scared or what were your feelings?
When I was going through the breathing

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process, yeah, like as it started to
get closer, how are you feeling? As

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my pregnancy was nearing towards, I
guess my 9 month mark, I felt more

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anxious and excited because my belly
was getting bigger and bigger and I

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get to see her um I got to see my
tummy grow and it was really cool and I

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was excited and I was scared at the
same time because throughout

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everything, all my family members, all
my friends who had children,

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they're telling me like it hurts, and
they were scaring me to the point

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where he, you know, I heard some of my
friends saying they needed the

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epidural, that's how bad it hurt and
to the point where they made it

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really graphic for me and so I was
kind of nervous. I was excited to see.

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Especially who was in my stomach the
entire time I didn't know if I was

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having a boy or girl and. As well, I
was nervous because I didn't know

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anything about the birthing process.
So I was only. I was actually really

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nervous when uh as the time got near
towards.

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The 9 month mark and she my daughter
was due date was actually supposed to

00:16:51.048 --> 00:16:56.057
be in November is when they estimated
so I was looking at November and my

00:16:56.090 --> 00:17:02.057
family actually did this hilarious
thing where they placed bets to where

00:17:02.090 --> 00:17:06.815
we had a jar on top of the
refrigerator and we had a, it was basically you

00:17:06.848 --> 00:17:12.216
pay a day. Of when do you think the
baby's gonna come? So they stuck $1 in

00:17:12.249 --> 00:17:17.095
for either a Monday or Tuesday, and
they stuck another $1 in for a boy, a

00:17:17.128 --> 00:17:22.147
girl, or it's a boy, it's a girl, and

00:17:22.180 --> 00:17:25.785
And oh they would just buy a week so
like they'll throw $7 on if they

00:17:25.818 --> 00:17:29.065
wanted to buy a whole entire week like
she's the baby's gonna come out on

00:17:29.098 --> 00:17:32.565
this day, so they bought the whole
entire week. So we had this jar of cash

00:17:32.598 --> 00:17:36.387
going on top of the refrigerator and
it was funny at the time and it

00:17:36.420 --> 00:17:40.347
helped lighten the mood, but I was
still nervous and then kind of it was

00:17:40.380 --> 00:17:45.387
it was a humor. It was really humorous
and it made tensions a little less

00:17:45.420 --> 00:17:49.357
higher and it was fun because my
family got to see like who was right? Uh

00:17:49.390 --> 00:17:57.390
, yeah, so, um, when you got closer to
that 9 month mark, um, how were you

00:17:58.299 --> 00:18:02.226
feeling physically? Were you, was it
during the summer time? Was it hot?

00:18:02.259 --> 00:18:05.936
Was it cold? What was that? Yeah,

00:18:05.969 --> 00:18:13.305
actually, when I was pregnant with my
daughter, I have a, or I'm I have

00:18:13.338 --> 00:18:17.107
poor circulation, so I get cold really
easily. So when I was pregnant with

00:18:17.140 --> 00:18:19.785
my daughter, I was reading like your
blood temperature goes up a little

00:18:19.818 --> 00:18:23.825
bit or your temperature and your body
runs a little tad bit higher, uh,

00:18:23.858 --> 00:18:29.075
and I was miserable because I do not
like the heat at all, so I had either

00:18:29.108 --> 00:18:32.906
my boyfriend sleeping right next to me
or I had the dog right next to me

00:18:32.939 --> 00:18:36.946
or I had something really or somebody
really close. I really hated that

00:18:36.979 --> 00:18:40.147
because I felt like it was just too
hot. So sleeping was very

00:18:40.180 --> 00:18:48.180
uncomfortable for me. And I was
really, oh gosh, I was really emotional

00:18:48.219 --> 00:18:52.226
over like the littlest things that was
funny. I found out that I wouldn't

00:18:52.259 --> 00:18:56.936
be really Upset about, but it was
either something like a sonic drink I'd

00:18:56.969 --> 00:19:00.776
get upset about and worked up and it
was my brothers and my boyfriend who

00:19:00.809 --> 00:19:04.256
had to take the beating for it. And
then I had to think to myself, I'm

00:19:04.289 --> 00:19:08.575
like, why is everything, why am I so
hormonal? Why am I so sad? Why am I

00:19:08.608 --> 00:19:14.815
so happy? Why do I want to like slap
you half the time. So during my

00:19:14.848 --> 00:19:20.857
pregnancy, my emotional state was
really. It was, I had a lot of ups and

00:19:20.890 --> 00:19:24.496
downs, which was, now that I look back
at it, it was funny because I'm

00:19:24.529 --> 00:19:27.535
glad I had my boyfriend and my
brothers that were there to take the

00:19:27.568 --> 00:19:33.506
emotional beating and to be supportive
with me. Um, so had you had your

00:19:33.539 --> 00:19:36.585
mother planned on being there with you
or your boyfriend in in the

00:19:36.618 --> 00:19:44.467
delivery room? Uh, during the
delivery. And before my actual pregnancy

00:19:44.500 --> 00:19:48.706
when my daughter was gonna be
delivered my my boyfriend and I really want

00:19:48.739 --> 00:19:53.847
to plan actually to where it's just
gonna be us, and he really wanted it

00:19:53.880 --> 00:19:58.156
to be where it was just the um just
the two of us and when our child's

00:19:58.189 --> 00:20:03.555
born it would be a 3. and my mother
and his mother really protested

00:20:03.588 --> 00:20:09.397
against that and I actually did not
care. I just wanted to have a

00:20:09.430 --> 00:20:13.656
successful healthy baby and and pretty
easy birth that I wasn't

00:20:13.689 --> 00:20:18.516
traumatized to to what people were
telling me it was gonna be like so I

00:20:18.549 --> 00:20:23.075
did want the support of my mother
there but at the time actually my mother.

00:20:23.108 --> 00:20:28.627
She was in uh Phoenix and she was
actually uh in rehab. So she had to,

00:20:28.660 --> 00:20:32.467
she was in Phoenix going back and
forth from Flagstaff to Phoenix to come

00:20:32.500 --> 00:20:37.857
check on me and So she wanted to be
there really bad, but I know uh as the

00:20:37.890 --> 00:20:40.976
date was getting closer, she, uh, it
wouldn't be predicted if she was

00:20:41.009 --> 00:20:46.575
going to be there or not. And I got to
meet my mother-in-law and a lot of

00:20:46.608 --> 00:20:49.397
daughter-in-laws fear their
mother-in-laws, especially because I was so

00:20:49.430 --> 00:20:53.726
young and My mother-in-law was really
intimidating to me at the time, but

00:20:53.759 --> 00:20:57.526
she was really sweet and she was
really comforting and she was there for

00:20:57.559 --> 00:21:01.526
me when my mom wasn't able to be there
for me, so she provided a lot of

00:21:01.559 --> 00:21:04.486
support through that as well through
through my pregnancy, my

00:21:04.519 --> 00:21:12.519
mother-in-law provided a lot of
support, um. And so actually as the

00:21:13.670 --> 00:21:20.506
contractions started early in the
morning, I'd say about 3 o'clock.

00:21:20.539 --> 00:21:25.696
In the morning I felt a hard
contraction and it was so uncomfortable that

00:21:25.729 --> 00:21:28.897
I woke up in the middle of the night.
I went to the restroom and that's

00:21:28.930 --> 00:21:33.416
when I noticed like this bloody
discharge and I was like, oh, I read this

00:21:33.449 --> 00:21:37.295
in the book. So I come back into the
room and I wake up my boyfriend. I'm

00:21:37.328 --> 00:21:41.607
like, hey, I think I had that um the
mucus plug is I I'm not too sure what

00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:46.176
that's called. The mucus plug came out
and

00:21:46.209 --> 00:21:49.196
So that's when he got up. He was like,
Oh, you're feeling fine? And I told

00:21:49.229 --> 00:21:53.176
him I was feeling fine right now, but
I just wanted to let you know that

00:21:53.209 --> 00:21:58.176
you know it's probably gonna happen
pretty soon. So surprisingly, I

00:21:58.209 --> 00:22:02.647
actually went back to sleep so I
didn't feel anything uncomfortable until

00:22:02.680 --> 00:22:07.266
3 hours later, around 6 o'clock or 2
hours later, around 5 o'clock I felt

00:22:07.299 --> 00:22:11.137
another contraction and that's when I
got up and I, I woke my boyfriend up

00:22:11.170 --> 00:22:15.256
and I told him I can't go back to
sleep. This is really consistent so. He

00:22:15.289 --> 00:22:18.696
got up and he went in and told his
mother that we're most likely gonna

00:22:18.729 --> 00:22:24.035
have to go to the hospital now and.
She came in and she was ready. She got

00:22:24.068 --> 00:22:28.315
her jacket on and she was um early in
the morning, she got her jacket on,

00:22:28.348 --> 00:22:31.565
she got everything ready. And she was
ready to help me go to the hospital

00:22:31.598 --> 00:22:35.446
, but my boyfriend protested, saying
like, you know, you have to take my

00:22:35.479 --> 00:22:38.805
younger sister to school first, you're
not going to be able to go there.

00:22:38.838 --> 00:22:44.085
And if you do, he was just bringing up
a bunch of excuses and I was at the

00:22:44.118 --> 00:22:48.436
time sitting on this medicine ball or
the this therapy ball on the floor

00:22:48.469 --> 00:22:52.647
bouncing up and down, listening to
them argue and bicker, and I'm like,

00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:58.647
I'm in, I'm in pain. I was just really
hurts. I need, can we please go to

00:22:58.680 --> 00:23:02.847
the hospital soon? And they were
arguing whether if she wants, uh, she

00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:06.166
wants to, she wanted to come with us,
and he was saying like we have, we

00:23:06.199 --> 00:23:10.285
have, we have to go now. So they
argued for about a good 20 minutes while

00:23:10.318 --> 00:23:13.785
I was sitting on this ball on the
floor watching them argue when my

00:23:13.818 --> 00:23:19.026
contractions were hitting. And once my
mother-in-law finally threw in the

00:23:19.059 --> 00:23:24.545
towel, I guess, she, she told us that
she'll call us as soon as uh for us

00:23:24.578 --> 00:23:29.585
to call her when we made it to the
hospital. During the hospital stay

00:23:29.618 --> 00:23:34.186
actually, or we checked into the
emergency room, uh, they told us that I

00:23:34.219 --> 00:23:40.246
was going through, I was going through
the delivery process, I believe.

00:23:40.279 --> 00:23:46.305
Wait, I forgot my terms. You're in
labor. I was going into labor, so. So

00:23:46.338 --> 00:23:50.347
they come out with this wheelchair and
they took incredible care of us

00:23:50.380 --> 00:23:52.147
because they, oh, I was waiting for
you to bring that up. What is it? So

00:23:52.180 --> 00:24:00.180
we'll retract right before the whole 3
months pregnancy,

00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:07.986
you got a UTI and landed you in the
hospital. OK, I'm just gonna say that

00:24:08.019 --> 00:24:12.416
Steven Yazi, the boyfriend.

00:24:12.449 --> 00:24:19.736
I totally was rushing this. OK, no.
OK. So actually, I, we came across a

00:24:19.769 --> 00:24:25.647
complications with my pregnancy and it
was when Oh gosh, I believe I was

00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:31.785
probably 5 months along in my
pregnancy and I got this UTI infection and

00:24:31.818 --> 00:24:35.736
they were just telling me to take
care, or just like to drink plenty of

00:24:35.769 --> 00:24:39.815
fluids. They gave me antibiotics and
it never got better. It got to the

00:24:39.848 --> 00:24:44.377
point where I actually felt really
sick that I couldn't keep anything down.

00:24:44.410 --> 00:24:48.256
I was throwing up just whatever it was
in my stomach. It was either the

00:24:48.289 --> 00:24:52.585
food I ate, mucus, or just the stomach
acid, and it was continuously, I

00:24:52.618 --> 00:24:57.756
couldn't stop throwing up. And during
that time, my boyfriend and my

00:24:57.789 --> 00:25:00.236
family were really concerned because
that's when they saw that I was

00:25:00.269 --> 00:25:03.156
losing a bunch of weight and actually
to the point where I was almost at

00:25:03.189 --> 00:25:07.357
my pre-weight before I was pregnant.
So I had this big belly and it looked

00:25:07.390 --> 00:25:10.996
like I wasn't even pregnant at the
time because I couldn't hold anything

00:25:11.029 --> 00:25:15.416
in, and I actually

00:25:15.449 --> 00:25:21.456
My temperature was running so high
that I felt cold rather than actually

00:25:21.489 --> 00:25:24.877
that I was running a fever. So I felt
like I had the chills and I kept

00:25:24.910 --> 00:25:28.295
telling everybody I was cold. I felt I
had to put a jacket on, but it was

00:25:28.328 --> 00:25:31.627
really hot in the middle of the
summer. It was, yeah, it was in the middle

00:25:31.660 --> 00:25:35.285
of July and I was telling them I was
freezing. So I'd try to take warm

00:25:35.318 --> 00:25:38.926
baths or um I would try to take a hot
shower and I wouldn't be able to get

00:25:38.959 --> 00:25:45.426
rid of this chill. And it was actually
when I had to go to a prenatal

00:25:45.459 --> 00:25:49.696
visit that was coming up. So it was
bad on my part that I waited until my

00:25:49.729 --> 00:25:54.696
prenatal checkup. Uh, to see what was
wrong. Once they, I went into my

00:25:54.729 --> 00:25:59.736
prenatal checkup, my midwife doctor
actually checked on me and she took my

00:25:59.769 --> 00:26:02.656
temperature and she just stopped right
there and she says, you need to go

00:26:02.689 --> 00:26:07.526
to the emergency room right now and So
once I went to the emergency room,

00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:11.045
they already made everything clear
there. And before that incident, when I

00:26:11.078 --> 00:26:16.565
first had my UTI, the doctor actually
came, or the doctor before that, the

00:26:16.598 --> 00:26:20.967
first time I went to the hospital,
told me it was just a a normal UTI and

00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:25.815
they gave me antibiotics and they sent
me home. After, yeah, sorry, after

00:26:25.848 --> 00:26:29.055
, after that, that's when I started
throwing up and I couldn't hold

00:26:29.088 --> 00:26:34.847
anything down. And so she sent me back
to the hospital and I guess that's

00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:37.926
when all the nurses already recognized
us and the doctors recognized us

00:26:37.959 --> 00:26:42.206
from the first time and that's when my
temperature was up. So they had to

00:26:42.239 --> 00:26:46.137
bring my temp down. They had to give
me some um Oh gosh, I didn't know

00:26:46.170 --> 00:26:49.776
what they gave me a lot, but it got to
the point where they, like I

00:26:49.809 --> 00:26:53.335
couldn't walk. They even stuck a
catheter in me and it was really

00:26:53.368 --> 00:26:57.976
upsetting for me because I couldn't do
the basic basic stuff. And when I

00:26:58.009 --> 00:27:01.897
think back now, I was really
embarrassed too because I had my boyfriend

00:27:01.930 --> 00:27:05.176
who was in the emergency room with me
and he was freaking out the entire

00:27:05.209 --> 00:27:13.209
time and I felt like. But um, I felt,
I don't know what's the word I.

00:27:13.809 --> 00:27:18.446
I guess I felt kind of embarrassed too
because I didn't want anybody to

00:27:18.479 --> 00:27:21.325
see me in this kind of state. I
couldn't simply just walk up and use the

00:27:21.358 --> 00:27:25.085
restroom. I had to have this tube in
me now and I had to have this tube

00:27:25.118 --> 00:27:28.926
that was pushing oxygen and like air
through my lungs, and I, it was

00:27:28.959 --> 00:27:35.607
scaring everybody around me at the
time and I really didn't. And like the

00:27:35.640 --> 00:27:40.647
best feeling or the the way I
described it was I just felt really shut out.

00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:46.335
I didn't want anybody to see me like
this and So during that time, it was

00:27:46.368 --> 00:27:50.526
really scary because the doctors and
the nurses were really upset because

00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:52.967
the first time I came there, they
should have been caught because it came

00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:56.097
back positive for some kind of strand
that it was going, a blood infection

00:27:56.130 --> 00:28:01.236
is what it came to be. And it
actually, the doctors when I first went to

00:28:01.269 --> 00:28:05.065
go see be seen by them, it came back
positive, but they sent me home still

00:28:05.098 --> 00:28:08.795
and it got to the point where I had to
be there. You didn't see a doctor

00:28:08.828 --> 00:28:11.676
at all remember we just saw a nurse
and then those nurses and

00:28:11.709 --> 00:28:14.835
practitioners said, oh, you were fine,
and then they they they just like,

00:28:14.868 --> 00:28:22.196
but but she she's sick and it yeah.
And so all the nurses and uh they were

00:28:22.229 --> 00:28:26.426
doing their best they could and it
was. We just got a lot of compliments

00:28:26.459 --> 00:28:28.926
though. I remember because they're
saying like your boyfriend's so

00:28:28.959 --> 00:28:33.397
supportive, you two are so adorable,
you two are so young and I was just

00:28:33.430 --> 00:28:36.186
freaking out the entire time, but they
were being so comforting and they

00:28:36.219 --> 00:28:39.867
made everything adjust to where it was
comforting and it was actually

00:28:39.900 --> 00:28:42.926
really scary during that time because
like my temperature, if my

00:28:42.959 --> 00:28:47.516
temperature went any higher, yeah it
would have been uh um basically the

00:28:47.549 --> 00:28:53.436
sor became a blood. It the UTI went
into my blood system. It was going to

00:28:53.469 --> 00:28:58.285
, I believe they're saying affect my
kidneys, and it would have gotten way

00:28:58.318 --> 00:29:02.085
much worse than that, and it was it
would have been a blood poisoning,

00:29:02.118 --> 00:29:06.246
typically, I think. And uh I think the
main thing too, that was like a

00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:10.486
double whammy was that she was
pregnant, so her body put all of her immune

00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:16.107
systems and her immuno bodies to the
baby. So, yeah, none of her, none of

00:29:16.140 --> 00:29:20.055
it was actually helping her, so she
was already sick and she was staying

00:29:20.088 --> 00:29:23.097
sick because all the things were there
helping the baby at the time. Were

00:29:23.130 --> 00:29:27.256
you scared for the baby? I was
terrified actually because that was the

00:29:27.289 --> 00:29:29.897
main thing though like the baby's
fine. They were really just concerned

00:29:29.930 --> 00:29:34.137
about my overall health and try to get
me back up because all the

00:29:34.170 --> 00:29:36.335
everything they gave me, they gave me
a bunch of potassium because I was

00:29:36.368 --> 00:29:39.696
low in potassium. They gave me
something to help me with my anemia because

00:29:39.729 --> 00:29:43.555
I was anemic already before my
pregnancy. So they were trying to get me

00:29:43.588 --> 00:29:48.276
back up to my health and my daughter
or the baby at the time, or yeah, the

00:29:48.309 --> 00:29:53.285
baby was fine. It was just like they
were trying to get me back to going

00:29:53.318 --> 00:29:58.756
to where I could be able to get this
giant mask off my face because it was

00:29:58.789 --> 00:30:03.726
pushing air through me and I hated
that because it made my lips dry and I

00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:08.446
could feel it in my throat and my
boyfriend was trying to shove ice

00:30:08.479 --> 00:30:13.486
through the cracks because it was just
so bad and I actually, it was

00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:17.926
supposed to be an overnight stay, but
it ended up to be 11 days long. I

00:30:17.959 --> 00:30:22.617
was staying in the hospital. And the
only way they would would release me

00:30:22.650 --> 00:30:29.906
is if I had a, they had me had this.
Oh gosh, it was like a. It was like a

00:30:29.939 --> 00:30:33.026
little ball. It was like a little tube
thing that she breathed in and the

00:30:33.059 --> 00:30:36.305
ball moved up and they could scale and
they could see if if you're up to

00:30:36.338 --> 00:30:39.746
right here, then that's just a normal
person, but you need to be up here

00:30:39.779 --> 00:30:42.186
showing that you can breathe normally
on a normal function basis like

00:30:42.219 --> 00:30:45.226
every day to day like at the lowest
point, that's like someone who has

00:30:45.259 --> 00:30:48.397
like 50 years of like smoking
cigarettes and that's where she was like

00:30:48.430 --> 00:30:52.305
full on air, so I know exactly what
that is. So how did you, did you get

00:30:52.338 --> 00:30:56.916
to that point? Like, explain that. I
was getting.

00:30:56.949 --> 00:31:02.676
They gave me that or this oh gosh, I
forgot what it was called, but this

00:31:02.709 --> 00:31:07.357
air device, they gave me this tube to
kind of help practice like oh you

00:31:07.390 --> 00:31:10.835
need to be breathing through this and
you gotta try to get this ball on a

00:31:10.868 --> 00:31:15.996
scare I think it was like a scale from
like 1 to 20 is what it was scaled

00:31:16.029 --> 00:31:19.357
at, but they were telling me once you
get that little ball up at least

00:31:19.390 --> 00:31:24.315
past 15, then you're OK. So I every
day I'd keep trying but I had to. I

00:31:24.348 --> 00:31:27.597
only got it at the bare minimum and I
was looking at that I'm like I like

00:31:27.630 --> 00:31:30.597
I swear I could blow through this, but
I like my lungs weren't working

00:31:30.630 --> 00:31:34.436
with me and I was really anxious to
try to get out of the hospital because

00:31:34.469 --> 00:31:38.835
I've always been hospitalized since I
was little, so it was, it was no fun.

00:31:38.868 --> 00:31:44.315
And when I finally got to the point
where everything was clear and

00:31:44.348 --> 00:31:48.756
everything came back positive that I
was OK and I got rebound or I, I kind

00:31:48.789 --> 00:31:52.035
of just came back up and it perked
back up. That's when they were ready to

00:31:52.068 --> 00:31:55.897
discharge me. When I actually weighed
myself, or they weighed me before I

00:31:55.930 --> 00:32:00.016
was getting checked out, I was like uh
5 pounds off from my my my my

00:32:00.049 --> 00:32:04.496
pre-weight actually. So I lost a lot
of weight during that stay within

00:32:04.529 --> 00:32:10.476
that, it was only like a two week
process but All of that was scary

00:32:10.509 --> 00:32:14.967
actually, cause I. I didn't look like
I was pregnant and I just see this

00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:19.887
giant this giant belly and I was
scared because I didn't know whether or

00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:23.847
not I was really concerned of how the
baby was and all the medication they

00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:29.006
were doing and what they were giving
me that I was hoping that it didn't

00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:32.887
affect the baby at all because I was
during my diet when I was pregnant, I

00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:36.045
tried to keep everything clean. I
didn't try to drink a lot of soda. I

00:32:36.078 --> 00:32:40.666
didn't do a lot of those like. Um, I
didn't do a lot of bad foods. I

00:32:40.699 --> 00:32:44.857
always try to eat healthy or I try to
stay away from certain things. And

00:32:44.890 --> 00:32:47.746
so when they gave me all this
medication, I was just really worried

00:32:47.779 --> 00:32:52.867
actually for my child. Could you feel
the baby moving at this point? I did

00:32:52.900 --> 00:32:56.496
feel her moving. That's or doing when
I was in the hospital stay, I felt

00:32:56.529 --> 00:32:59.627
my daughter moving and I think that
was like really comforting along with

00:32:59.660 --> 00:33:02.916
my boyfriend and my brothers being
there checking on me. That was what

00:33:02.949 --> 00:33:09.006
really helped me and helped me recover
afterwards too when I got out of

00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:11.996
the hospital, but during that time
when I was in the hospital feeling her

00:33:12.029 --> 00:33:18.506
move was Just knowing I was going to
make it, she was gonna make it, and I

00:33:18.539 --> 00:33:22.107
was excited when I got out of the
hospital finally. Yeah, I think at that

00:33:22.140 --> 00:33:27.607
point it was just kind of like. It was
really um Like she really put her

00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:30.647
all into the pregnancy as far as um
taking care of herself, like, like

00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:34.406
every single day we went for walks and
she kept active, like, you know, we

00:33:34.439 --> 00:33:37.805
hear about some pregnant woman, like
just from my mom saying that I, you

00:33:37.838 --> 00:33:40.176
know, some people get pregnant and
they just stay in the couch not doing

00:33:40.209 --> 00:33:43.285
anything, they have a really hard
delivery, so we made it upon ourselves

00:33:43.318 --> 00:33:46.006
and she was the main one that made it
upon herself to make sure that we

00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:48.726
had an active lifestyle, even though
we were pregnant, you know, she was

00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:53.420
pregnant. Did your mother-in-law kind
of coach you on, you know, Healthy

00:33:53.453 --> 00:33:57.940
ways and what it's gonna be like and
all that. Uh,

00:33:57.973 --> 00:34:04.502
my mother-in-law actually helps by
telling me what to expect like, oh like

00:34:04.535 --> 00:34:07.940
the graphic site of like what your
body will, what will happen to your

00:34:07.973 --> 00:34:15.717
body, and she was coaching me
basically on how Oh gosh, I don't think my

00:34:15.750 --> 00:34:19.865
family or my in-laws actually knew
what the proper amount you're supposed

00:34:19.898 --> 00:34:23.595
to have when you were pregnant, so
they just gave me a bunch of food, but

00:34:23.628 --> 00:34:26.756
they were pretty good about it except
for my sister-in-law, which cooks,

00:34:26.789 --> 00:34:29.836
she tried to cook everything with
butter. Like she was like, it's for the

00:34:29.869 --> 00:34:33.557
baby. Like, no, it's not. You're just,
you, you're eating for two. That's

00:34:33.590 --> 00:34:36.796
always what I heard and they'll just
give me these foods like you, I just

00:34:36.829 --> 00:34:40.836
need it, I think I, I think it was
like you only needed 500 or 800

00:34:40.869 --> 00:34:46.405
additional. Calories, but they were
giving me like 4 to 3 meals and like

00:34:46.438 --> 00:34:51.365
back to back, but my mother-in-law
kept me consistently like but snacking

00:34:51.398 --> 00:34:54.084
on the healthy side and my
sister-in-law was trying to feed me chocolate

00:34:54.117 --> 00:34:58.046
and everything else but it was it was
really funny to see what each of

00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:03.477
them were doing, but my mother-in-law
was really helpful and. It wasn't,

00:35:03.510 --> 00:35:09.747
yeah, it wasn't until they were
arguing at the. They were arguing that he

00:35:09.780 --> 00:35:13.767
got to go to the hospital with me. So,
so yeah, let's pick up there again.

00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:20.836
Oh yeah. How long was the drive? Were
you close to the hospital?

00:35:20.869 --> 00:35:23.095
So 10 minutes away, yeah, we actually
live not too far from the hospital.

00:35:23.128 --> 00:35:26.856
We're about like 10 minutes away, so
it was like around 5 o'clock in the

00:35:26.889 --> 00:35:30.856
morning when we started heading up to
the hospital. Once we got into the

00:35:30.889 --> 00:35:36.017
hospital and they took us into the
labor, oh gosh, a small little area

00:35:36.050 --> 00:35:39.816
that's not quite the labor room, but
they took us in the small triage.

00:35:39.849 --> 00:35:43.526
They took us in the small triage room.
And they were monitoring us

00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:46.546
everything was fine and the nurses
recognized us from when the first time

00:35:46.579 --> 00:35:49.195
I was in the hospital and they're
like, oh my gosh, you guys are back. Are

00:35:49.228 --> 00:35:53.006
you excited? I wanted they just kept
asking all these questions and they

00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:56.646
were so happy and they saw that my
boyfriend was still there and they were

00:35:56.679 --> 00:36:01.236
super excited and they were just.
Adorable. They were so helpful. They

00:36:01.269 --> 00:36:06.396
kept offering Stephen juice packets
and crackers, and they're checking on

00:36:06.429 --> 00:36:09.756
him as much as they were checking on
me and they were giving us the best

00:36:09.789 --> 00:36:13.077
care that they possibly ever could
from that last scare that we had in the

00:36:13.110 --> 00:36:18.717
hospital and it was strange actually
they told us that the pregnancy was

00:36:18.750 --> 00:36:24.876
gonna take like I probably wouldn't
deliver my baby until maybe 5 or 6

00:36:24.909 --> 00:36:29.146
o'clock or 5 o'clock in the evening.
And so we're there at 5 o'clock, like

00:36:29.179 --> 00:36:33.626
, oh jeez, we got like 12 hours left.
So they checked my, how far along I

00:36:33.659 --> 00:36:39.385
was dilated. I came into the hospital
when I was 4 m dilated and they're

00:36:39.418 --> 00:36:43.615
like, oh yeah, it'll be a while. So
they come back again 20 minutes later

00:36:43.648 --> 00:36:46.865
and they checked me and I jumped to 6.
It's like, oh wow, OK, so once you

00:36:46.898 --> 00:36:51.186
get to, I think they were saying 7 or
8, they'll take me into the actual

00:36:51.219 --> 00:36:56.776
labor room and by that time it was
like close to 8 o'clock. Oh no, it had

00:36:56.809 --> 00:37:00.686
to be like around 8 o'clock. That's
when they checked on me and then. They

00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:04.526
came back again and they saw me shot
up to 8 centimeters dilated and

00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:07.727
they're like, holy cow, let's get you
in the labor room, and they took me

00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:12.086
in there and I stayed in there for a
while like, oh jeez, it was really we

00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:15.816
got this nice labor room

00:37:15.849 --> 00:37:18.925
and I don't. Like they knew who we
were. They messed up on their thing

00:37:18.958 --> 00:37:22.526
when they like when they messed up her
UTI and they're like, we better

00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:26.206
show these guys some good quality
pregnancy room. Like our window had like

00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:29.977
the perfect image of the peaks, and
then there's like birds and deers

00:37:30.010 --> 00:37:35.925
outside and like it was nice. OK, how
about you describe.

00:37:35.958 --> 00:37:40.307
So when we went into labor room, the
labor room, they actually gave us

00:37:40.340 --> 00:37:46.865
this really nice big labor room. And
it even had a, oh gosh, those cool

00:37:46.898 --> 00:37:50.986
little baths, those jet baths they
have in there, and my boyfriend at the

00:37:51.019 --> 00:37:53.865
time was looking around at the other
labor rooms so ours is the nicest one

00:37:53.898 --> 00:37:58.227
in the hospital right now, and he was
all super happy checking on there,

00:37:58.260 --> 00:38:01.146
like looking at all the cool fancy
things that we have in our room, and I

00:38:01.179 --> 00:38:05.586
was like, I'm in pain. My contractions
are hurting and that's when my

00:38:05.619 --> 00:38:09.046
contractions were more intense. And my
boyfriend was just like, look at

00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:12.635
the view outside the window. It's the
mountains, the San Francisco peaks,

00:38:12.668 --> 00:38:15.436
and during that time actually it was
in October, so the leaves were

00:38:15.469 --> 00:38:17.986
changing on the mountains and it
looked really gorgeous, but I couldn't

00:38:18.019 --> 00:38:24.026
really focus on how nice the mountains
were looking and My boyfriend was

00:38:24.059 --> 00:38:26.986
actually like running around back and
forth getting different things for

00:38:27.019 --> 00:38:30.986
me. He got me that, uh, the, oh gosh,
the exercise ball, the giant

00:38:31.019 --> 00:38:34.945
inflatable ball because that helped me
a lot when I was at home to help me

00:38:34.978 --> 00:38:38.586
sit through and practice some
exercises, so that really helped a lot. So

00:38:38.619 --> 00:38:42.546
he brought that in and I tried
bouncing on that and my contractions were

00:38:42.579 --> 00:38:46.066
hurting so hard, or they were hurting
so bad actually to the point where I

00:38:46.099 --> 00:38:51.517
felt like I couldn't do that, but um.
I typically have a high pain

00:38:51.550 --> 00:38:55.756
tolerance, so I would try, like right
after I didn't find the exercise

00:38:55.789 --> 00:38:59.316
while helping, I try to find something
else. Like maybe I can walk, maybe

00:38:59.349 --> 00:39:02.796
walking will help relieve some pain or
tension. So I tried walking and I

00:39:02.829 --> 00:39:06.635
stood up and nope, I can't walk, so I
sat back down. And my boyfriend

00:39:06.668 --> 00:39:10.526
wanted to test out the bath, so he got
the bath going on in the bathroom,

00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:15.166
and once I was in there, he stuck like
half of the bottle of soap in there

00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:19.006
and it was like super bubbly and I was
he was just excited to mess with it.

00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:23.267
So I hopped in there and that's when
that's when I realized that my

00:39:23.300 --> 00:39:27.566
contractions felt little like they
were more dull. My contractions felt

00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:30.327
more dull and they didn't feel as
sharp and painful so I sat in there for

00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:36.046
like a good 10 minutes and it wasn't
until Um, the doctors told us to like

00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:39.445
, hey, you know, now it's time for you
to get into the bed, we'll check on

00:39:39.478 --> 00:39:44.756
you to see how far along you're
dilated. And during that time actually

00:39:44.789 --> 00:39:49.206
they they they had me hop on the bed,
I guess at the time they took my

00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:52.287
boyfriend into the hallway and the
doctor took my boyfriend into the

00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:56.717
hallway, and my midwife showed up and
I didn't know that yet. So I was

00:39:56.750 --> 00:39:59.557
sitting in the bed and I guess they
were talking outside in the hallway

00:39:59.590 --> 00:40:03.557
that they were gonna break my water
and I was actually like I think it's I

00:40:03.590 --> 00:40:08.115
was at the right dilation for them to
break my water for me. And so he

00:40:08.148 --> 00:40:11.126
comes in and he's all super nice, but
he looked really nervous, so he was

00:40:11.159 --> 00:40:13.717
on the side holding my hand and I
didn't know what they were saying in the

00:40:13.750 --> 00:40:18.436
hallway. And my doctor came in and she
tells me like, oh, well, right now

00:40:18.469 --> 00:40:21.896
you're gonna feel some pressure and
I'm gonna put some pressure on your

00:40:21.929 --> 00:40:29.537
stomach just to feel how the baby is
and to feel um I guess where you.

00:40:29.570 --> 00:40:32.736
She put her hand on my stomach to
feel. Yeah, you must wait till it

00:40:32.769 --> 00:40:38.945
totally stops. OK, but she felt my,
um, she put her hand on my stomach to

00:40:38.978 --> 00:40:43.267
feel how my, how the baby was doing
and to show me like basically where

00:40:43.300 --> 00:40:47.227
I'm gonna be like where I'm gonna be
feeling most pressure from and that's

00:40:47.260 --> 00:40:52.467
when she had me up on the table and
she told me to kind of just relax and

00:40:52.500 --> 00:40:56.146
she was just talking to me like, OK,
what I'm, what we're gonna do is she

00:40:56.179 --> 00:40:59.307
made it sound like it was gonna happen
maybe at a certain time or she made

00:40:59.340 --> 00:41:03.186
it happen because I was already
expecting 5 o'clock or 6 o'clock in the

00:41:03.219 --> 00:41:07.316
evening. Or I was thinking of a later
time that I was actually gonna be

00:41:07.349 --> 00:41:13.106
having my child or going through the
actual labor part, labor part, um.

00:41:13.139 --> 00:41:16.236
But when she was explaining this to
me, she's like, well, when your water

00:41:16.269 --> 00:41:18.916
breaks and she broke my water and she
was telling me this, I'm like, oh my

00:41:18.949 --> 00:41:23.236
God, my water broke, and she broke it
and I that's when my contractions

00:41:23.269 --> 00:41:28.115
hurt the most, I believe because it
just felt like raw, like some raw

00:41:28.148 --> 00:41:31.316
pressure just pressing against me with
no, at least with my water, I felt

00:41:31.349 --> 00:41:34.316
like there was some cushion or barrier
with those contractions, but I just

00:41:34.349 --> 00:41:40.896
felt the contractions full on and they
were really painful. And once I

00:41:40.929 --> 00:41:44.546
realized I'm like holy cow, she broke
my water and reading all the books I

00:41:44.579 --> 00:41:50.046
read about like this is it, this is
the actual labor part, so it. I was

00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:53.006
completely clueless until she broke my
water and then she was just telling

00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:58.646
me like what the process was and to
actually start to push and my

00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:01.126
boyfriend was freaking out but he was
trying to stay there on the side and

00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:04.807
he was telling me he's like, good job,
you're doing a great job and he was

00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:09.845
trying to make phone calls at the same
time and one of the nurses that got

00:42:09.878 --> 00:42:14.256
really close with us recognized us,
but she was so sweet. She actually. Um

00:42:14.289 --> 00:42:18.796
, got one of those, uh, got a camera,
so she was taking pictures of us the

00:42:18.829 --> 00:42:26.756
entire time, and It wasn't until, oh
well, the doctor broke my water at

00:42:26.789 --> 00:42:33.477
exactly 10 o'clock. So the active the
active labor part of me actually Me

00:42:33.510 --> 00:42:41.510
pushing my daughter out was 26 minutes
long, so. When my daughter was when

00:42:45.349 --> 00:42:48.486
all everything kind of just stopped
for a moment. I remember when I was

00:42:48.519 --> 00:42:54.816
pushing, I felt just this immediate
pressure come off and for a split

00:42:54.849 --> 00:43:01.385
second my everything was quiet and the
doctors were quiet and they just I

00:43:01.418 --> 00:43:05.787
was nervous with that tension that was
for a little bit of the room being

00:43:05.820 --> 00:43:12.026
quiet, but uh that's when I heard my
daughter sneeze and they were looking

00:43:12.059 --> 00:43:14.856
at us and they just crack up and
they're like, oh yeah, she's breathing

00:43:14.889 --> 00:43:20.546
and she's when she sneezed we heard
her cry and her cry was so it was so

00:43:20.579 --> 00:43:25.646
new. It was nothing I never thought I
would ever. It was like a unique

00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:29.876
sound of just some like somebody that
was with me this entire 9 months in

00:43:29.909 --> 00:43:34.807
my stomach and I Once I heard her
sneeze, it was so it was this tiny

00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:42.077
little sneeze sound. I and followed by
this little just cry and the my

00:43:42.110 --> 00:43:45.166
boyfriend was already he beat me
already around there he was just like

00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:50.037
looking and he was wanting to hold
her, but the doctor looked at her um

00:43:50.070 --> 00:43:54.376
like. And my boyfriend said like, oh
yeah, I guess who, uh, I guess you're

00:43:54.409 --> 00:43:59.655
, I guess whoever won the bet with a
uh whoever planned to or whoever had

00:43:59.688 --> 00:44:07.175
won the bet of a girl, basically, but
like, oh yeah, so. They were super

00:44:07.208 --> 00:44:15.208
happy. When Oh gosh, I can't even talk
right now. OK, but.

00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:23.546
When The doctor actually saw my
daughter and she was really excited so

00:44:23.579 --> 00:44:26.865
because like she was really sweet and
she kept commenting how young we

00:44:26.898 --> 00:44:31.586
were at the time and so she's like oh
yeah so you guys you guys have your

00:44:31.619 --> 00:44:34.307
surprise you got to meet your daughter
and when she put my daughter in my

00:44:34.340 --> 00:44:39.646
hands I just. I don't know it was this
really.

00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:43.445
Every book I've read as much as I want
to say I like I try to mentally

00:44:43.478 --> 00:44:48.986
prepare myself and when I look back,
taking care of my brothers and try to

00:44:49.019 --> 00:44:53.345
be bothering to them and try to
mentally prepare myself, I thought I

00:44:53.378 --> 00:44:56.916
already knew how it was gonna be like,
but I didn't know until the exact

00:44:56.949 --> 00:45:02.537
moment. My daughter touched my arms
and I was holding her and she was

00:45:02.570 --> 00:45:08.356
quiet for me. She just um she stopped
crying and she was this little

00:45:08.389 --> 00:45:13.175
swallowed up in this bundle and when I
looked at her and when I when she

00:45:13.208 --> 00:45:16.925
touched my arms I didn't know how to
explain it so much but I just

00:45:16.958 --> 00:45:20.736
remembered I just felt these tears
coming down my face and I had no

00:45:20.769 --> 00:45:26.557
control over them. But when I felt
them come upon me. I just looked at her

00:45:26.590 --> 00:45:32.956
and I was so excited to finally meet
who was

00:45:32.989 --> 00:45:37.876
who was going through changes with me
at the time and I finally got to

00:45:37.909 --> 00:45:41.236
meet her for the first time and the
first thing I hear from her is a

00:45:41.269 --> 00:45:48.106
sneeze and the first image I see of
her is just this calm face and.

00:45:48.139 --> 00:45:52.467
All the features I didn't really know
that were developing inside me, her

00:45:52.500 --> 00:45:59.827
nose, her tiny eyes, lips, and
everything was so tiny. And when I was

00:45:59.860 --> 00:46:06.405
looking at her. I was very, very
excited and happy that I finally have her

00:46:06.438 --> 00:46:12.878
in my arms and through everything I've
gone through, um, I've gone through.

00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:15.079
Oh gosh, an emotional abuse through my childhood. I've been through

00:46:18.659 --> 00:46:24.486
physical abuse through my childhood
and I've been through. Um,

00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:31.077
I had no home. I had to live with my
friends at the time, and I had to go

00:46:31.110 --> 00:46:36.486
through therapy and counseling because
I have all the, I guess, this abuse

00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:42.997
I've been through way before. I was
pregnant, but when I looked at my

00:46:43.030 --> 00:46:48.517
daughter like none of those things
that mattered anymore. I have her now

00:46:48.550 --> 00:46:53.916
and she pushed me a lot to strive to
be who I wanted to be. I know I

00:46:53.949 --> 00:46:57.316
didn't want to put her through
anything that I had to go through. I know

00:46:57.349 --> 00:47:02.646
that I had to show her everything I've
been wanting to. I want to show her

00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:06.717
the best things in this world and I
wanna be able to protect her from

00:47:06.750 --> 00:47:10.686
everything and I wanna be able to grow
with me because I'm still learning

00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:16.925
too and just having her there I
realized everything I've gone through

00:47:16.958 --> 00:47:20.845
everything that every negatives in my
life that has come across, it didn't

00:47:20.878 --> 00:47:24.566
matter, it didn't exist and at that
time it was only the three of us in

00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:29.827
that room. It was. My family in that
room and that's when I knew my future

00:47:29.860 --> 00:47:37.860
was gonna start was with her right
there. That's really good.

00:47:38.619 --> 00:47:41.037
Um,

00:47:41.070 --> 00:47:45.316
Yeah, that's really powerful, you
know, and I love this concept of growing

00:47:45.349 --> 00:47:49.717
together. You know, no one's used that
phrase before and it's so true

00:47:49.750 --> 00:47:53.836
because you really are growing and
changing together, you know, and you're

00:47:53.869 --> 00:47:59.276
becoming new people that now have this
new family. Um, and how introducing

00:47:59.309 --> 00:48:03.077
that new life really does change that
whole family unit, and it's like

00:48:03.110 --> 00:48:08.396
make this bond, right, that didn't
exist at the same depth, you know, you

00:48:08.429 --> 00:48:13.546
really articulated that beautifully.
Yeah. Is there anything else you want

00:48:13.579 --> 00:48:18.425
to add? A lot of times we'll ask
people like towards the end, is there a

00:48:18.458 --> 00:48:22.706
word or phrasing of words that kind of
summarizes your experience like

00:48:22.739 --> 00:48:30.739
when you reflect back on it. Um, Oh
gosh. Reflecting back on it.

00:48:31.958 --> 00:48:36.445
I think now I have my daughter, she's
5 years old and she's gonna be

00:48:36.478 --> 00:48:41.925
starting kindergarten this year and
looking through everything I've done

00:48:41.958 --> 00:48:47.967
with her and my boyfriend up till she
was just in my stomach and thinking

00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:51.747
far back to where my boyfriend and I
had to go through our ups and downs

00:48:51.780 --> 00:48:56.206
of when we first started seeing each
other and I looked through it all and

00:48:56.239 --> 00:48:59.057
I realize.

00:48:59.090 --> 00:49:03.626
Um, as much as my, as much as my life,
I thought at the time was really

00:49:03.659 --> 00:49:08.655
messed up and my mother being an
alcoholic and I never really had a real

00:49:08.688 --> 00:49:14.186
home, but now having this something
that I've created and something that I

00:49:14.219 --> 00:49:20.376
have all the good, the bad, the
uglies. It doesn't really matter anymore

00:49:20.409 --> 00:49:25.095
now because it it really just matters
what you do with it today and what

00:49:25.128 --> 00:49:30.256
you wanna handle it. I really don't
wanna go back to thinking of anything

00:49:30.289 --> 00:49:33.776
of the world owes me anything because
it does the world doesn't owe me

00:49:33.809 --> 00:49:37.497
anything at all. It's what it kind of
what I make with it with my family

00:49:37.530 --> 00:49:44.727
so now she's my motivation, my
motivation she she's there to remind me. To

00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:47.526
take my keys if Mom, do you have your
keys? Do you have your wallet? Do

00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:51.217
you have your phone? Mom, do you have
my lunch? And I'm like, oh yeah,

00:49:51.250 --> 00:49:54.566
thank you. I'll forget something on
the table now here and there, and

00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:57.767
she'll remind me and she'll help me
and I'm looking at this and now I have

00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:03.006
something to strive with and now I'm
growing with her and I get to

00:50:03.039 --> 00:50:07.486
experience all these things with her
and I get, I'm the one that's able to

00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:14.856
show her all these first time
experiences, so. It's very exciting and

00:50:14.889 --> 00:50:22.889
having her now in my family, I feel.
That no matter how bad everything

00:50:23.250 --> 00:50:27.816
must seem, you know, this tiniest
thing, or there's always good in

00:50:27.849 --> 00:50:31.256
something, no matter how small, that's
always something I strived and held

00:50:31.289 --> 00:50:35.477
on to that kept me going and it was
her this entire time that's kind of

00:50:35.510 --> 00:50:40.727
made me who I am today and who pushes
me and motivates me to do my best in

00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:46.706
everything I do. That's great,
excellent. All right, would you like to add

00:50:46.739 --> 00:50:50.706
anything? Oh, it was.

00:50:50.739 --> 00:50:54.916
Emotional roller coaster through it
all. It was, um, I guess like as far

00:50:54.949 --> 00:50:57.356
as like uh.

00:50:57.389 --> 00:51:01.675
When I, when we like when we found out
and then when my family lectured me

00:51:01.708 --> 00:51:07.586
in um their own way, it was
interesting just because. My mom was also a

00:51:07.619 --> 00:51:12.727
young teen mom as well. She had my
older sister when she was 14 and had me

00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:19.247
when she was 16. So, and she came off
the reservation, and she was still

00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:22.486
with, you know, she, she, she, she did
everything with my dad and my dad

00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:25.327
was kind of like that leading figure,
like, you know, they both had to

00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:28.445
work together, but they didn't do it
for each other, they did it for their

00:51:28.478 --> 00:51:32.327
kids. And, you know, because of that,
that helped me with that role model

00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:35.506
to like. Not give up to, you know,
there's there's a lot of people out

00:51:35.539 --> 00:51:39.236
there that kind of give up on their
kids and their family and. I just

00:51:39.269 --> 00:51:43.396
didn't want that for, for, for my
family, that family that was, you know,

00:51:43.429 --> 00:51:46.916
that was slowly coming day after day
and, you know, I stayed throughout

00:51:46.949 --> 00:51:51.316
the entire pregnancy. You know, we had
ups and downs. We, you know, even

00:51:51.349 --> 00:51:55.635
after, you know, the pregnancy and
after the birth, we still have ups and

00:51:55.668 --> 00:51:59.155
downs, but, you know, I think the main
thing was just to keep going at it

00:51:59.188 --> 00:52:04.885
, you know, I think we both use each
other and uh Natalie as our um.

00:52:04.918 --> 00:52:08.646
Motivation, I guess. And I think
that's something that we have um we've

00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:14.086
really used my parents inspired me.
She herself has inspired me through

00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:18.896
her own um. Her own stories that she's
told me, I think just together we

00:52:18.929 --> 00:52:25.586
inspired ourselves, I mean. I mean, I
just graduated um with two degrees,

00:52:25.619 --> 00:52:28.595
so I think it's just kind of like, you
know, you can, you can show people

00:52:28.628 --> 00:52:32.595
that if you're devoted enough, you can
be a young parent. There's these

00:52:32.628 --> 00:52:35.595
challenges, and it's not easy, but
it's possible, and at the end of it,

00:52:35.628 --> 00:52:38.436
you can still get yourself educated,
you can still get, you know, you can

00:52:38.469 --> 00:52:42.756
still end up on the high rope but just
don't give up so easily, and I

00:52:42.789 --> 00:52:46.077
think that's just something that we've
initiated in our own selves with

00:52:46.110 --> 00:52:51.945
great family support um with each
other, and I think overall it was just

00:52:51.978 --> 00:52:59.978
You know, It was fun. So yeah, it was
fun and I think um with, with like

00:53:00.820 --> 00:53:04.546
how she was telling the story, like
the night of or the morning of the

00:53:04.579 --> 00:53:09.385
birth, everything ended up how it was
supposed to end up. Like we, I

00:53:09.418 --> 00:53:12.546
didn't want my parents and anyone
else. I didn't want her parents to be

00:53:12.579 --> 00:53:16.236
there because like you get enough nap
in a room together. They'll start

00:53:16.269 --> 00:53:19.307
yelling and getting, they'll stare,
everyone will get mad and say, you're

00:53:19.340 --> 00:53:22.425
not doing this, right? So I already
knew how much stress that was gonna be

00:53:22.458 --> 00:53:25.896
, so I didn't want that. And they're
all gonna be yelling at me cause I'm

00:53:25.929 --> 00:53:28.537
the guy and I have to be there, and I
know I know I'm going to be there,

00:53:28.570 --> 00:53:31.736
but I kind of made it upon myself to
say like, you know what, we're gonna

00:53:31.769 --> 00:53:35.256
do it ourselves. And it it ended up
exactly how we wanted it, you know, it

00:53:35.289 --> 00:53:38.695
was just us in the delivery room. I
told my, I called my parents afterward

00:53:38.728 --> 00:53:42.376
, after the birth, and they showed up
within 20 minutes, cause I mean they

00:53:42.409 --> 00:53:47.416
work at the um they work here in
Flagstaff, so they were able to make

00:53:47.449 --> 00:53:50.537
their way to the hospital pretty
quickly. Her mom showed up later on that

00:53:50.570 --> 00:53:56.195
day, um. And then it was cool too
because after the birth, I, I was only

00:53:56.228 --> 00:54:00.796
there for like about 8 hours and then
I took off back home to clean up the

00:54:00.829 --> 00:54:06.037
entire room. I like, I, I, I vacuumed
the carpet I extracted them. I got

00:54:06.070 --> 00:54:09.717
the baby center, uh, the baby area
ready. I like I moved everything around.

00:54:09.750 --> 00:54:13.796
I took her younger brother with me to
get everything ready and I didn't

00:54:13.829 --> 00:54:17.155
come back till like around 9 o'clock
that night, back to the hospital. And

00:54:17.188 --> 00:54:20.436
she was, it was funny, one of the
funniest comments to this day was funny.

00:54:20.469 --> 00:54:23.916
She's like, She's like, you know,
Steven, I'm really tired. And I was

00:54:23.949 --> 00:54:26.186
like, yeah, of course you're tired.
You just push out a baby. I didn't

00:54:26.219 --> 00:54:30.037
even woke up at 5 o'clock this
morning. You've been up this entire time.

00:54:30.070 --> 00:54:33.956
She's like, Oh, I guess you're right.
And it was just, it was just really

00:54:33.989 --> 00:54:36.717
funny. It's just the whole thing like
ended up how it was. We got this

00:54:36.750 --> 00:54:41.997
great room, the birth was excellent,
and the, the, the birthing time met

00:54:42.030 --> 00:54:48.155
up with the date of the day. She was
born on 10/26 at 10:26. Can I get you

00:54:48.188 --> 00:54:53.017
to say that to her. I forgot to say
how we thought of Natalie's name. OK,

00:54:53.050 --> 00:54:56.385
so

00:54:56.418 --> 00:55:02.865
when Natalie was born actually, it was
October 26, 2010, and when they

00:55:02.898 --> 00:55:07.345
broke my water, it was at 10 o'clock
and the actual labor of me pushing

00:55:07.378 --> 00:55:13.425
her was 26 minutes. So when we had
her, she was born October 26th at 10:26

00:55:13.458 --> 00:55:20.646
a.m. and Oh my gosh, it matched up
perfectly. The doctors and nurses were

00:55:20.679 --> 00:55:24.497
so cute. Again, they were like, oh my
gosh, congratulations, you guys did

00:55:24.530 --> 00:55:28.057
it. They were holding her around.
They, they wanted to hold her actually

00:55:28.090 --> 00:55:30.456
when they were done with everything,
and they were really excited because

00:55:30.489 --> 00:55:36.066
they were really involved during the
times we saw them in the hospital and

00:55:36.099 --> 00:55:40.376
when we thought of Natalie's name
actually, it was really.

00:55:40.409 --> 00:55:46.456
We were thinking of names so like when
we were pregnant with her as the

00:55:46.489 --> 00:55:49.695
date was getting closer, we were
thinking of boy names and girl names and

00:55:49.728 --> 00:55:53.936
we didn't know what we wanted to call
her her yet or him at the time. So

00:55:53.969 --> 00:55:57.416
we thought of boy names we liked, we
thought of girl names we really liked

00:55:57.449 --> 00:56:02.706
and I spent actually, I realized a lot
of time picking out a girl name

00:56:02.739 --> 00:56:10.739
than I did with a boy name and it
wasn't until. Yeah It wasn't until she

00:56:11.030 --> 00:56:15.956
was born we realized that Natalie
would be her name because we didn't know

00:56:15.989 --> 00:56:19.997
anybody by the name Natalie. We've
never met a Natalie in our lives and I

00:56:20.030 --> 00:56:23.717
don't want to associate another like a
face with a name so she could start

00:56:23.750 --> 00:56:29.436
her own her own story there and the
reason why we named her middle name

00:56:29.469 --> 00:56:33.517
was really special was because her and
I share a birthday week. She was

00:56:33.550 --> 00:56:40.146
born October 26th, my birthday is
October 20th and. Autumn is my favorite

00:56:40.179 --> 00:56:44.227
time of the season. It's my favorite
season. So we had this nice beautiful

00:56:44.260 --> 00:56:48.307
view of the Mayans, and it was autumn
time, and so we knew her middle name

00:56:48.340 --> 00:56:54.686
was going to be autumn. So her full
name is Natalie Adam Yazi, and it's

00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:58.247
nice now because I have a nice little
ring, it has a ring to it, so when I

00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:03.280
get onto her and she knows she's in
trouble, I can call her full name.

00:57:03.688 --> 00:57:05.688
That's great. Yeah, I love, I love that. I think autumn's a lovely name,

00:57:09.378 --> 00:57:15.796
time of year. Oh yeah, autumn. There
you have it.

00:57:15.829 --> 00:57:19.986
All right. Anything else before we
turn off? I do you think you have

00:57:20.019 --> 00:57:24.566
anything else said? I don't think

00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:29.945
I think I mean, from that day of
Natalie being born, I think the only time

00:57:29.978 --> 00:57:32.506
that was kind of cool, cause it was
just that morning that the three of us

00:57:32.539 --> 00:57:36.307
were together, was later on that night
when I came back at 9 o'clock and

00:57:36.340 --> 00:57:39.945
then we were getting ready for bed,
and we kind of fell asleep. I woke up

00:57:39.978 --> 00:57:43.905
later the night prior almost around
11, cause I heard Natalie in her bed,

00:57:43.938 --> 00:57:47.816
she's going.

00:57:47.849 --> 00:57:50.175
She wasn't crying, she's just making
this sound, and it was just funny. I

00:57:50.208 --> 00:57:53.336
picked her up. She had this big old
eyes and then she kind of woke up and

00:57:53.369 --> 00:57:55.977
then all this kind of this like went
to bed, we fell asleep. It was kind

00:57:56.010 --> 00:58:00.095
of cool because it's just like. We
started the day with all three of us

00:58:00.128 --> 00:58:03.336
and then we ended the day with all 3
of us sleeping together. So it was,

00:58:03.369 --> 00:58:06.577
it was one of those things I kind of
kept in my own mind that was really

00:58:06.610 --> 00:58:11.956
sweet and I think that was just one
thing. Blessing.

00:58:11.989 --> 00:58:19.445
It's very sweet. Also, Steven picked
out her, her outfit. No, yeah,

00:58:19.478 --> 00:58:22.155
so the next day, the next day or the
next day when we were leaving the

00:58:22.188 --> 00:58:26.517
hospital. We made a deal. I told him
he could pick out his, um, I told my

00:58:26.550 --> 00:58:30.436
boyfriend Stephen that he could pick
out the baby's outfit because I got

00:58:30.469 --> 00:58:35.316
to pick out mostly everything for the
overnight bag. And he felt left out.

00:58:35.349 --> 00:58:37.727
I'm like, you could pick the outfit
then because we didn't know if we're

00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:41.537
having a boy girl, so we try to get
these neutral colors, and he came back

00:58:41.570 --> 00:58:45.405
with this boy hoodie and it was a
dinosaur and he's like, I don't care if

00:58:45.438 --> 00:58:49.206
we're having a daughter or a boy. He's
like the baby's gonna wear this,

00:58:49.239 --> 00:58:53.046
and it was like it was brown and green
and it had this dinosaur spiked

00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:56.916
tail all the way down its back. And it
was a hoodie and it was this cute

00:58:56.949 --> 00:59:00.126
little newborn onesie and the whole
outfit and I was looking at this like

00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:04.615
, OK, so I agree to that and he we
threw it in there and I I actually

00:59:04.648 --> 00:59:08.655
packed another outfit in there hoping
that he'd forget about it. But when

00:59:08.688 --> 00:59:12.236
we're going in labor, he threw that
outfit back in there and he remembered

00:59:12.269 --> 00:59:15.296
that deal I made him so when we
brought her home, she had this pink cat

00:59:15.329 --> 00:59:23.329
and this dinosaur outfit. Yeah, it
was, it was, it was. So.

00:59:24.349 --> 00:59:26.918
I love it. OK.even