WEBVTT 00:00:00.230 --> 00:00:04.407 testing levels, are we OK now? Um, so can I ask you how old you were when 00:00:04.440 --> 00:00:06.936 you got married? 00:00:06.969 --> 00:00:14.236 18. 18. Mhm. And that was in 47. 00:00:14.269 --> 00:00:22.269 And um And I was married 5 years before we had any. Children And um. 00:00:24.629 --> 00:00:31.326 It seems like I, I'll swear I carried my son 10 months because I kept 00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:39.256 going back to the doctor and saying, why, why? Well, that, uh, October day 00:00:39.289 --> 00:00:44.936 we walked, everybody walked, nobody had a car, you know, and uh I was 00:00:44.969 --> 00:00:50.656 downtown to the doctor and he told me to go buy a 2 ounce bottle of castor 00:00:50.689 --> 00:00:58.689 oil. And gobble it down. And it worked. It worked to induce labor. And uh 00:01:02.189 --> 00:01:10.189 I didn't have any problems with my. Um, So Um But 2 years later, my 00:01:12.448 --> 00:01:18.846 daughter, I had more problems with her. It seemed like my. Belly didn't go 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:23.406 back, you know, it was drooping over and it was so forth, and my back was 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:30.936 killing me. And I have some Polish ants and they gave me this corset. 00:01:30.969 --> 00:01:36.486 It was a big, you know, about this big strings like the, like you see in 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:40.525 the movies, you know, string you pull the strings and, and you tighten the 00:01:40.558 --> 00:01:46.897 belt and so forth and it was a uh a blessing to wear this corset during 00:01:46.930 --> 00:01:53.016 pregnancy. And if, if it, if you got too much here, you know, you could 00:01:53.049 --> 00:02:00.906 loosen it there and just by adjusting the strings or the straps. And um 00:02:00.939 --> 00:02:07.697 Then the night that um the day that uh he, she, he was born, she was born 00:02:07.730 --> 00:02:15.730 , my second child was a girl. Um my uh husband got a call from uh Oklahoma 00:02:17.270 --> 00:02:23.255 that his father had just passed away. And uh I, he didn't want to go 00:02:23.288 --> 00:02:29.517 because I was late already for delivery, but I said no go because of the 00:02:29.550 --> 00:02:34.536 fact that You will see your child. We, we didn't know if it was a boy or 00:02:34.569 --> 00:02:41.166 girl. Nobody knew nothing about that. Uh. But you won't see your father 00:02:41.199 --> 00:02:46.495 again. So he went there and sure enough that night. My mother came. We 00:02:46.528 --> 00:02:52.896 lived away from town. My mother came and my two cousins, which were twins. 00:02:52.929 --> 00:02:57.177 And one of them happened to have a car. Cause we're miles from the 00:02:57.210 --> 00:03:05.210 hospital. One hospital in this town. And um 11 could stay with my boy. And 00:03:07.588 --> 00:03:12.196 one could drive my mother and I to the hospital and and my cousins, that's 00:03:12.229 --> 00:03:18.805 what happened to it because my husband was already out of town. So, but I 00:03:18.838 --> 00:03:25.047 had known. I didn't realize it at the time until later. I told my mother I 00:03:25.080 --> 00:03:32.457 said something wrong with my corset. Um, I could, the drop, the child had 00:03:32.490 --> 00:03:39.217 dropped. And it was loose. Where, wherever it was, I don't know. It was 00:03:39.250 --> 00:03:44.666 loose and I said tighten these straps up, you know, and then I realized, 00:03:44.699 --> 00:03:52.699 oh, it's because of the droppage of the child. But um He um She was a she 00:03:55.139 --> 00:04:00.936 the second time. Uh, I don't remember much about because I told you that 00:04:00.969 --> 00:04:05.255 they knock us out, you know, at those days they knock you out. Remember 00:04:05.288 --> 00:04:13.288 being in the bed and hurting like heck. But uh I don't remember. 00:04:13.528 --> 00:04:21.086 I don't remember any shots or anything, but I. Had um Let's see, the first 00:04:21.119 --> 00:04:27.007 time after I came out of labor from the child number one. I had Charlie 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:31.325 horses you wouldn't believe. I had all the nurses and the doctors rubbing 00:04:31.358 --> 00:04:36.596 every, everywhere. I assumed it was because of the syrups. You know, I 00:04:36.629 --> 00:04:42.166 don't know how long I've been up there on Sturs when the child was born. 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:49.346 The second time I had been fighting a uh beer specialist for Cankeraurus. 00:04:49.379 --> 00:04:55.426 They ran me through all these tests, uh, of being allergic to this or 00:04:55.459 --> 00:05:02.226 that, you know, and I'd take uh they do the tests and I did notice when I 00:05:02.259 --> 00:05:09.336 was pregnant. I did not have any canker sores. But the minute that she was 00:05:09.369 --> 00:05:15.286 born and I was put back in the room. I was peppered with canker sores. I 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:20.205 don't know, you guys know what canker sores are in your mouth. Peppered, 00:05:20.238 --> 00:05:25.265 just peppered and after that I had them. And I swear it has something to 00:05:25.298 --> 00:05:31.236 do with the periods, you know. And I haven't had them since uh. I no 00:05:31.269 --> 00:05:36.096 longer have periods. I no longer have the canker so, so I don't know if it 00:05:36.129 --> 00:05:42.075 has anything to do with it or not, you know. But uh that was our deal on 00:05:42.108 --> 00:05:48.705 that. Um, so do you remember, um, to the drive to the hospital, was it 00:05:48.738 --> 00:05:55.067 long? Uh, yeah, it was, it was long, uh, we were maybe 15 miles or 00:05:55.100 --> 00:06:01.926 something like that to the hospital. And of course, uh, the labor was not 00:06:01.959 --> 00:06:08.356 too pleasant, you know, but. Um, it just seemed like a long ways. Mhm. Can 00:06:08.389 --> 00:06:12.476 you describe the hospital at all or how the, the intake situation or what 00:06:12.509 --> 00:06:20.257 ? Well, it was a like I said, this town only had one hospital. And I don't 00:06:20.290 --> 00:06:26.736 remember going in or anything, but I do know that it's. Uh, maybe 4 or 5 00:06:26.769 --> 00:06:34.769 stories. Um, but, um. And that you were put in with other women, not, not 00:06:35.079 --> 00:06:41.075 by yourself. Um, and laying in bed and the nurses come in, of course 00:06:41.108 --> 00:06:46.866 they'd shave you first. Um, and um. 00:06:46.899 --> 00:06:52.986 But uh and check your vitals, but I don't remember. Anything else and then 00:06:53.019 --> 00:06:56.627 they shave you with like a straight rate like cuz the shaving implements 00:06:56.660 --> 00:07:02.495 are different back then. It had to be a straight one. It had to be a 00:07:02.528 --> 00:07:09.205 straight one, yeah, mhm. And uh But it seemed like one of them. I did, 00:07:09.238 --> 00:07:14.245 they didn't have time to save me, but I don't, I don't know if that's my 00:07:14.278 --> 00:07:20.137 my mind telling me. That's true or not true. I don't, I don't know which, 00:07:20.170 --> 00:07:26.197 but it seemed like one of them. They didn't shave me cause came too soon. 00:07:26.230 --> 00:07:31.426 So I don't know if it was the 1st 1 or the 2nd 1. But you were um given 00:07:31.459 --> 00:07:37.455 the um ether or scope and being both times? 00:07:37.488 --> 00:07:43.406 That's how they did it. It's, I mean. I don't remember if I can't remember 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:49.546 if it's a shot or it's or it's a a couple of your. No, I don't remember 00:07:49.579 --> 00:07:55.575 that. So that's all blank and, and you really didn't come out of it until 00:07:55.608 --> 00:08:03.137 you were in your own bed at the hospital. And uh the baby was somewhere 00:08:03.170 --> 00:08:07.296 else. You didn't see the baby right away, you know, I don't know how long 00:08:07.329 --> 00:08:12.305 it was, but. Uh in the movies, they put it on your chest right away, you 00:08:12.338 --> 00:08:20.338 know, none of that, so it, uh. But I, I really am thankful for the corset 00:08:22.088 --> 00:08:29.736 and I don't remember exactly how I got the corset. Um, I did have some 00:08:29.769 --> 00:08:33.895 strong Polish aunts and one of them more of cars at all the time, so 00:08:33.928 --> 00:08:39.226 whether it was from her or what. But it was a blessing because it kills 00:08:39.259 --> 00:08:45.866 your back. And especially if you are, are weak in your back anyways, you 00:08:45.899 --> 00:08:51.316 know, and, and your muscles are weak from childbirth. 00:08:51.349 --> 00:08:57.596 And uh So did the corset, this part that cinchches go above the belly or 00:08:57.629 --> 00:09:03.996 below the belly? No, it went under your boobs and below. Below your crotch 00:09:04.029 --> 00:09:07.037 you hung out, you know, more or less so you, you didn't have to take it 00:09:07.070 --> 00:09:11.076 off to go to the bathroom. You could just, it was open there. So it just 00:09:11.109 --> 00:09:14.826 compressed everything inward. 00:09:14.859 --> 00:09:20.145 Put the looseness where that needed to be or the tightness where. The 00:09:20.178 --> 00:09:27.145 other need to be. And um my, my daughter was born in July, so it was hot. 00:09:27.178 --> 00:09:32.765 And I do remember many days putting a tub of water on the floor and 00:09:32.798 --> 00:09:36.927 putting your feet in the water because of the fact that you swell, your 00:09:36.960 --> 00:09:43.686 feet swelled, so mhm and we didn't those days nobody had air conditioning 00:09:43.719 --> 00:09:48.326 in your houses, you know, so you tried to get cool by putting your feet in 00:09:48.359 --> 00:09:55.885 the in the tub. And this was in Indiana. It's humid there too, yeah, at 00:09:55.918 --> 00:09:59.287 times, yeah. Well, it would happen here too, because a lot of people 00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:03.515 didn't have air conditioning here either, you know. And then then the 00:10:03.548 --> 00:10:08.395 first thing we had was evaporative coolers. And then the air conditioning 00:10:08.428 --> 00:10:14.797 got so we could afford the the air conditioning, so. So were you working 00:10:14.830 --> 00:10:20.407 during the time that you were pregnant? Yes, I was working at a factory. 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:28.440 Um, uh, I started working there maybe when I was about 19. And uh 00:10:29.769 --> 00:10:37.486 And we had to take off. I think it was, we had 3 months late uh uh uh for 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:44.375 delivery, I think it was and it was forced taken off work, you know. And 00:10:44.408 --> 00:10:49.446 then I think you could be off 3 months after something like that. So I 00:10:49.479 --> 00:10:53.515 went back after 2 and there's no air conditioning in the factory. No way, 00:10:53.548 --> 00:10:57.446 uh uh. No way. 00:10:57.479 --> 00:11:02.407 So, so you were, um, several months pregnant and working in a factory and 00:11:02.440 --> 00:11:10.217 working and if you work with a lot of women. It's you know, she's bigger, 00:11:10.250 --> 00:11:14.496 she's far longer than what she says she is, you know, oh my, she's bigger 00:11:14.529 --> 00:11:19.417 , she's gonna have a boy, she's gonna have a girl, you know, it was those 00:11:19.450 --> 00:11:24.706 kind, you know, gay women. Cause it was all women, most all women that I 00:11:24.739 --> 00:11:32.167 worked with, so. And uh running machines, running machines, uh, not 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:38.515 dangerous machines. The only one that could have been dangerous was you 00:11:38.548 --> 00:11:43.726 kicked your feet forward to make it go, the machine come down, and the 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:49.726 rest of them were you used a pedal or something on the pedal on your foot 00:11:49.759 --> 00:11:57.557 to make the thing, this little machine come down. So it uh. Can you think 00:11:57.590 --> 00:12:02.265 back to when you were in the hospital after you woke up and you were in a 00:12:02.298 --> 00:12:06.417 room? How many women are in a room with you? 00:12:06.450 --> 00:12:13.816 I would say 4. I, I, I don't. Truthfully remember, but I would say 4. And 00:12:13.849 --> 00:12:18.096 but maybe they weren't all there. I don't know. You know, the beds, the 00:12:18.129 --> 00:12:26.129 beds were there. So And we lived in, which would be rural, um. And we had 00:12:28.239 --> 00:12:31.005 um electricity. 00:12:31.038 --> 00:12:39.038 Um, and I could not nurse my children. I didn't have any milk. Uh, nearly 00:12:39.048 --> 00:12:42.537 starved my boy before the doctor said, Well, you haven't got any milk. 00:12:42.570 --> 00:12:49.186 That's why kids starving to death. Um So beings living in the country, we 00:12:49.219 --> 00:12:56.037 had electric stove. And when the power went out in the summer or winter. 00:12:56.070 --> 00:13:03.667 And no way of eating this baby's milk. So we go across the, across the 00:13:03.700 --> 00:13:08.525 next door and they had a gas stove and heat the baby's milk over there and 00:13:08.558 --> 00:13:15.775 come home and feed the baby. Mhm. Until the power came back on again. So 00:13:15.808 --> 00:13:21.515 what was the milk? Uh, I had an awful time with my son. He couldn't keep 00:13:21.548 --> 00:13:29.135 anything down. It, it wasn't a formula, but I think it was uh. Um We 00:13:29.168 --> 00:13:33.936 finally settled on, I don't know how many different milks we tried, but we 00:13:33.969 --> 00:13:41.969 finally set it, set it on um like um cream of wheat. And I boiled it. And 00:13:42.158 --> 00:13:48.946 it had enlarged the um straw. So he could not, it wasn't a straw, it was a 00:13:48.979 --> 00:13:56.116 nipple, uh, so he could suck the cream of wheat in the milk in his system. 00:13:56.149 --> 00:13:59.956 But that was a struggle right there to try to find something that he 00:13:59.989 --> 00:14:07.989 could keep down and upchuck a lot. Yeah, so. So was he, so was he, he was 00:14:09.428 --> 00:14:13.566 healthy young man. Yeah, he grew out of it. It just was the idea that he 00:14:13.599 --> 00:14:20.125 just couldn't drink. Um, Milk 00:14:20.158 --> 00:14:25.895 And I, and I don't, after that, I, we must have weaned him on regular 00:14:25.928 --> 00:14:29.976 cow's milk or something because we didn't have, I don't remember formula. 00:14:30.009 --> 00:14:36.275 I remember canned milk, you know, uh, pet milk, uh, carnation or whatever. 00:14:36.308 --> 00:14:39.596 But I don't remember any. 00:14:39.629 --> 00:14:43.797 I don't remember anybody using formula maybe they could have, I don't know. 00:14:43.830 --> 00:14:49.677 You don't realize how what an impact formula has, you know, on, on women 00:14:49.710 --> 00:14:55.775 and, and I'm sure they have to try different kinds because. People's 00:14:55.808 --> 00:15:01.177 stomachs aren't all alike. I heard goat's milk was a good milk. Yeah, 00:15:01.210 --> 00:15:07.895 that's, yeah, mhm. So What about your daughter? Uh, didn't have any 00:15:07.928 --> 00:15:15.186 problem with her with milk. No, just the first one is to. But um So she, 00:15:15.219 --> 00:15:18.096 she didn't breastfeed though, but she had cow's milk and she was could not 00:15:18.129 --> 00:15:24.826 breastfeed. The the doctor's words were a big old cow like you haven't got 00:15:24.859 --> 00:15:30.145 any milk. That's exactly what he said because my son keeps bringing that 00:15:30.178 --> 00:15:36.586 up all the time. And so that's true, no milk. 00:15:36.619 --> 00:15:40.866 How did you experience pregnancy? Did you gain a lot of weight or? Yeah, I 00:15:40.899 --> 00:15:47.186 think so. Yeah, you know, you're just way out here, uh, and, uh. I never 00:15:47.219 --> 00:15:54.826 got rid of the stretch marks, never. No, and in fact, today, I'm sure I, I 00:15:54.859 --> 00:16:01.566 would have them there, but I'm fighting this hernia. Yes, yes. I won't 00:16:01.599 --> 00:16:07.005 embarrass you too much. Look at that hernia, and it's harder, harder rocks 00:16:07.038 --> 00:16:14.297 right there. It's only on that one side and. It's um Feels like I'm 00:16:14.330 --> 00:16:21.167 pregnant on half side. You know, it uh. It's had 4 operations already on 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:28.625 it. Um, so it's intestine pushing forward, yeah, and then I had, I took, 00:16:28.658 --> 00:16:35.145 uh, Pradaxa. Have you heard of Pradaxa? Did they're advertising it on TV. 00:16:35.178 --> 00:16:43.086 Pradaxa is a blood thinner. And bled internally. And 00:16:43.119 --> 00:16:49.807 the first time they operated on my. Uh, hernia. Uh, they left a sponge in 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:56.976 me for 3 months. 3 I kept going back to the emergency. Something's wrong, 00:16:57.009 --> 00:17:02.015 something's wrong, you know, up chucking and sicker and a dog and. And 00:17:02.048 --> 00:17:08.226 finally somebody decided to take an X-ray. You could see the sponge. 00:17:08.259 --> 00:17:15.746 And then that that was operation #2, and then when I bled internally, they 00:17:15.779 --> 00:17:23.779 had to. Um, operate again. I've had 4 operations on this side, 9 pints of 00:17:23.890 --> 00:17:31.736 blood because, yeah, put a lawsuit against Pradaxa. And got some money. 00:17:31.769 --> 00:17:37.107 Good for you. Like, did you put a lawsuit against the sponge person? No, 00:17:37.140 --> 00:17:42.627 no, but the hospital asked me. Um 00:17:42.660 --> 00:17:48.075 Saint Luke's, it was, asked me to put a claim against them. They didn't 00:17:48.108 --> 00:17:51.516 want a lawsuit and I didn't want to, I didn't want to mess with that 00:17:51.549 --> 00:17:57.097 either. So they kept calling the lawyers kept calling and well, you want 00:17:57.130 --> 00:18:03.857 to put this lawsuit, you know, against them. Name your price. So I didn't 00:18:03.890 --> 00:18:11.890 know. Nothing. And so um that was in, I think in 12, uh. 2012, I believe, 00:18:14.588 --> 00:18:21.016 and so, um. The senior center provides did provide a lawyer that 00:18:21.049 --> 00:18:26.426 volunteered to come and talk to you. So I made an appointment with him and 00:18:26.459 --> 00:18:31.627 I asked him what I should tell him I would, would take. Well, he gave me 00:18:31.660 --> 00:18:37.446 this ridiculous little price. And so I thought now, and so when they 00:18:37.479 --> 00:18:43.617 called, I upped the price. No problem, no problem. So the price he gave 00:18:43.650 --> 00:18:48.867 you was too low. Oh yeah, really. 00:18:48.900 --> 00:18:52.347 As if he was working for them, 00:18:52.380 --> 00:18:57.006 so, and I thought, no, no, no, no, that don't sound right. 00:18:57.039 --> 00:19:03.656 So here I go again from. Getting all the information on the Pradaxa the 00:19:03.689 --> 00:19:06.055 being internally 00:19:06.088 --> 00:19:11.867 so. And it uh That was no fun. 00:19:11.900 --> 00:19:18.075 Did you have any residual um health stuff from having the babies? 00:19:18.108 --> 00:19:22.887 You kept soda crackers at your bedside. I don't know if you guys had soda 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:28.156 crackers to try to keep your up chuck down. And before you put your feet 00:19:28.189 --> 00:19:33.236 on the floor, you would eat the soda cracker. Well, it didn't always work. 00:19:33.269 --> 00:19:41.269 And uh Because um I Didn't accept it too good and I I chucked a lot. So. 00:19:45.420 --> 00:19:47.420 How, how was it when you had um your baby home? How was home life with the 00:19:49.890 --> 00:19:53.467 baby? Uh 00:19:53.500 --> 00:19:57.575 It's all right, you know, it's, uh, did you go back to work? Yeah, I did 00:19:57.608 --> 00:20:02.426 after I think. I don't know if it's 3 months, 6 months, whatever. I don't 00:20:02.459 --> 00:20:09.597 , I don't remember. Yeah, I did go back to work. And uh so. Just like 00:20:09.630 --> 00:20:16.776 mothers today, times are tough. Babysitters were a little cheaper than. 00:20:16.809 --> 00:20:23.107 And today, my god, what these people have to pay. So, did, was there any 00:20:23.140 --> 00:20:29.107 state funded help? No. No, because my husband and I both worked, you know 00:20:29.140 --> 00:20:33.967 , and it put you over a limit of some sort, but I, no, I don't remember 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:41.916 any, uh. Now I understand Wick or somebody can provide help for you here, 00:20:41.949 --> 00:20:47.236 but no, there was nothing like that there. Were your pregnancies planned? 00:20:47.269 --> 00:20:52.467 Did you try to get pregnant? Yeah, you know, yeah, we were married 5 years 00:20:52.500 --> 00:21:00.196 and tried to, yeah. And the second one I suppose was a surprise. But uh I 00:21:00.229 --> 00:21:03.996 could never get pregnant after that. So when you were trying all that time 00:21:04.029 --> 00:21:07.887 for those 5 years, you must have thought um that you couldn't get pregnant. 00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:12.377 Yeah, right. Yeah, all your cousins and aunts and uncles say, well, when 00:21:12.410 --> 00:21:16.486 you gonna have a baby? When are you gonna have a baby? Well. 00:21:16.519 --> 00:21:24.519 You know, It's one of those things, so. And um I ended up with 2, my 00:21:24.618 --> 00:21:32.618 sister ended up with 3, so. Didn't run much in our family. My mother had 00:21:32.818 --> 00:21:36.107 me and then didn't think she could have any more children. So for 7 years 00:21:36.140 --> 00:21:42.226 , she didn't have any children, and then she had 3 kids. Oh wow. It's 00:21:42.259 --> 00:21:48.045 funny how the body works. Yeah, right, mhm, true. My my husband was an 00:21:48.078 --> 00:21:55.637 only child and definitely did not want to. Raise an only child, so we were 00:21:55.670 --> 00:22:02.555 very fortunate that we got the second one, so. And we were married 31 00:22:02.588 --> 00:22:10.588 years before I lost him. So The kids were Uh, more or less adults by then. 00:22:14.989 --> 00:22:16.989 So that's my story. I don't remember much of anything else. I think you 00:22:21.588 --> 00:22:26.035 did great. It was wonderful. I'm gonna. Oh yeah, yeah. Do you, do you 00:22:26.068 --> 00:22:29.276 remember, um, because you're saying there's a lot of time after the baby 00:22:29.309 --> 00:22:31.946 was born that you didn't get to see the baby. Do you remember the first 00:22:31.979 --> 00:22:37.647 time you actually got to see? No, I don't, I don't really uh uh it's out, 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:42.766 it's out of my mind, you know. No, can you describe the babies? Did they 00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:45.847 have hair or 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:51.815 I don't think so. No, I don't think so. And uh one was, I know one was 713 00:22:51.848 --> 00:22:59.848 , 7 pounds and 13 ounces, and the other was 8 something. Uh, but, uh, So I 00:23:02.019 --> 00:23:08.746 mean those are were normal size then. I don't know what they are now. Uh, 00:23:08.779 --> 00:23:16.779 small now, I think. No, I think that's normal. So But um No. Did you have 00:23:18.189 --> 00:23:21.436 , um, was it just you and your husband at home or did you have family 00:23:21.469 --> 00:23:27.736 living with you? No, just me and my husband. How was he with the babies? 00:23:27.769 --> 00:23:32.746 Oh, he was thrilled, thrilled because being an only child, you know, uh, 00:23:32.779 --> 00:23:37.956 he was thrilled and, and took responsibility, you know, and changed 00:23:37.989 --> 00:23:45.989 diapers and Fed him and So forth, so Yeah, um, No problem there at all. 00:23:49.239 --> 00:23:53.526 And he lived in this home with you too. We can't, we moved back here in 00:23:53.559 --> 00:23:56.026 '57. 00:23:56.059 --> 00:24:01.467 So, and this is the only house that we've lived in since. Mhm. Yeah, 00:24:01.500 --> 00:24:07.446 that's great. Mhm. Well, I think we're good. So at the beginning, I was 00:24:07.479 --> 00:24:11.206 supposed to introduce myself and you, and so I'm going to do it now, so it 00:24:11.239 --> 00:24:13.686 might seem a little funny, but I'm going to go ahead. Did I do it in the 00:24:13.719 --> 00:24:19.166 beginning or did I forget? Yeah. So um this is Boris Solis and Ashley 00:24:19.199 --> 00:24:27.199 Zakkowski interviewing Elaine Pot Potter on. June 20, 2015. 00:24:30.529 --> 00:24:36.295 OK, thank you, really appreciate it. I refer to myself of, uh, if somebody 00:24:36.328 --> 00:24:43.325 can't remember my name, I say I'm um. Harry Potter's grandma. And they 00:24:43.358 --> 00:24:48.656 remember that. You know, they don't remember Potter, but they remember 00:24:48.689 --> 00:24:51.088 Harry Potter.