WEBVTT 00:00:01.278 --> 00:00:09.278 This is Boris Solis interviewing Amy Dooley at 12:13 on June 20, 2015 for 00:00:09.698 --> 00:00:16.125 the Creative Push project. Alright, so go ahead and get started, um. 00:00:16.158 --> 00:00:20.407 So you have 2 children, so you can decide which one, which story you want 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:25.206 to tell first, or how you want to organize it. Um, but whichever one you 00:00:25.239 --> 00:00:29.436 want to talk about first, could you maybe take us back to around that time 00:00:29.469 --> 00:00:33.885 of the pregnancy or the labor and delivery, if there was anything um 00:00:33.918 --> 00:00:39.006 memorable, you know, temperature or, you know, events happening or 00:00:39.039 --> 00:00:44.987 something that could kind of situate us. OK, um, well, I probably want to 00:00:45.020 --> 00:00:49.667 talk about Austin's delivery mostly, but I can compare it to Bennett's 00:00:49.700 --> 00:00:54.866 because Bennett is my first son who's 4, and Austin is now 15 months old. 00:00:54.899 --> 00:01:02.899 So I had him. Uh, April, April, I'm sorry, March 6th of, um, 2014. And My 00:01:05.808 --> 00:01:10.835 first son, everything went really well and I really enjoyed the experience 00:01:10.868 --> 00:01:15.605 so I kind of expected the same with Austin and it and it was very 00:01:15.638 --> 00:01:18.444 different. So this story is, I think a little bit more interesting, but I 00:01:18.477 --> 00:01:23.804 , when I, I can really compare it to Bennett and kind of the emotions I 00:01:23.837 --> 00:01:27.924 felt having Austin expecting to have like a really good experience like I 00:01:27.957 --> 00:01:32.924 had with Bennett. So anyways, um, both pregnancies though were really good. 00:01:32.957 --> 00:01:40.156 I was always a really. Good pregnant person. I didn't get sick. I. Um, 00:01:40.189 --> 00:01:45.757 slept pretty well. I didn't, you know, lose my hair afterwards or anything 00:01:45.790 --> 00:01:51.447 , so I enjoyed being pregnant. I enjoyed, um. All of that. And I also got 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:55.355 pregnant really quickly with both of them, but with Austin, everything 00:01:55.388 --> 00:02:00.025 happened extra fast. So with Austin, once we decided to get pregnant with 00:02:00.058 --> 00:02:04.596 him, I was immediately pregnant. So one try and we're done, and which kind 00:02:04.629 --> 00:02:08.356 of upset my husband because he really liked trying to get pregnant. So 00:02:08.389 --> 00:02:11.356 once I'm pregnant, I was like, all right, we don't have to try anymore. 00:02:11.389 --> 00:02:16.136 And that was kind of a bummer for him, but. That happened quickly then the 00:02:16.169 --> 00:02:19.816 whole pregnancy went by really quickly because I was busy with work and, 00:02:19.849 --> 00:02:25.896 and Bennett and, um, before I knew it it was time to basically have Austin. 00:02:25.929 --> 00:02:33.696 So I was due with Austin on, um, the 7th and the 5th came around in the 00:02:33.729 --> 00:02:36.856 middle of the night I woke up and just like with Bennett, I started to 00:02:36.889 --> 00:02:42.386 feel some contractions and they're mainly in my back, but. I kind of like 00:02:42.419 --> 00:02:45.066 expected. I knew what to feel at this point because I felt that with 00:02:45.099 --> 00:02:48.305 Bennett and I was like, all right, so I'm probably gonna wake up in a 00:02:48.338 --> 00:02:52.267 couple of hours and be ready to go to the hospital and it's all gonna kind 00:02:52.300 --> 00:02:56.366 of go smoothly like it did with Bennett. So in the morning I got up and I 00:02:56.399 --> 00:02:59.886 called the doctor and he said to come into the office and so I came into 00:02:59.919 --> 00:03:04.005 the office and, and they, I had been having contractions in just in my 00:03:04.038 --> 00:03:10.366 back for about every 7 minutes and 5 to 7 minutes. So they put me on the 00:03:10.399 --> 00:03:14.487 machine and hooked me up for about 20 minutes and they came back and 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:17.725 they're like, no, you're not, nothing's happening. You're, this is 00:03:17.758 --> 00:03:22.987 probably just pre-labor. Which kind of surprised me because it really felt 00:03:23.020 --> 00:03:26.467 like everything with Bennett. I just felt like I was just gonna be going 00:03:26.500 --> 00:03:30.827 to the hospital after this, but they sent me home. So I went back home and 00:03:30.860 --> 00:03:33.745 throughout the day I kept having these back contractions. The only thing 00:03:33.778 --> 00:03:36.866 that started to worry me is that I, I never felt anything in the front and 00:03:36.899 --> 00:03:42.666 with Bennett, I always had felt the um contractions really strong in the 00:03:42.699 --> 00:03:45.626 front and then in the back, it was just like super painful and I couldn't 00:03:45.659 --> 00:03:49.017 wait to get an epidural. Um, but with Austin, it just never happened in 00:03:49.050 --> 00:03:51.936 the front. It was always in the back. So we, I went through my day. I kind 00:03:51.969 --> 00:03:55.096 of worked from home for half the day. I didn't go into work because I just 00:03:55.129 --> 00:03:59.856 figured it was happening and I wasn't gonna take any risks. My mom was 00:03:59.889 --> 00:04:06.297 there and she and I went to the, um, we went, we went to Target, went and 00:04:06.330 --> 00:04:09.696 got our nails done. The whole time I'm, I, so I downloaded an app and I 00:04:09.729 --> 00:04:13.467 started timing my contractions because I just. Nothing was happening and, 00:04:13.500 --> 00:04:15.827 and before I had left the doctor's office that morning, he said, well, 00:04:15.860 --> 00:04:18.606 just call me when something happens. And I was like, well, I kind of 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:23.015 thought that's what I did. I Uh, that's why I'm here, but OK, what, what 00:04:23.048 --> 00:04:26.616 else is gonna happen, cause this is what happened last time and, and now 00:04:26.649 --> 00:04:34.649 he's just sending me home. Oh. So Um, 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:40.486 OK, so I'm we're then we do, so we're all getting our nails done. We're 00:04:40.519 --> 00:04:43.567 kind of just doing whatever, trying to figure out what's going on. My dad 00:04:43.600 --> 00:04:48.166 is a nurse practitioner and he's not practicing anymore, but he used to be 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:52.166 an ER doc so he kind of knows he's given birth. He gave birth to my little 00:04:52.199 --> 00:04:56.447 sister and he's done births and, and, um, when he worked as an emergency 00:04:56.480 --> 00:05:02.145 room. Uh, nurse practitioner, so he's looking online in his little apps 00:05:02.178 --> 00:05:05.096 about, you know, how long these back contractions can last. He's like, 00:05:05.129 --> 00:05:09.416 this could last for like 2 weeks. So we're all like, OK, jeez, this is 00:05:09.449 --> 00:05:12.257 because they were really uncomfortable. It hurt really bad in my back, but 00:05:12.290 --> 00:05:16.976 nothing, nothing else was happening. I think, I think this maybe 8 to 10 00:05:17.009 --> 00:05:21.416 hours have gone by. So I went to the doctor in the morning at about 10 and 00:05:21.449 --> 00:05:27.526 now it's like 6 o'clock at night. And mom and dad make me this huge like 00:05:27.559 --> 00:05:31.916 pork chop and mashed potato dinner and so we're all sitting down to eat 00:05:31.949 --> 00:05:37.026 and. And still the back contractions, nothing else. We're all having, I 00:05:37.059 --> 00:05:43.637 mean, I stuffed myself. I had a huge dinner. And um. 00:05:43.670 --> 00:05:47.507 I remember going back into my laundry room and I had slowly been packing 00:05:47.540 --> 00:05:51.387 for the hospital all day just like preparing everything and. Um, went to 00:05:51.420 --> 00:05:54.666 the laundry room and got some of my clothes, put it in the bag, still 00:05:54.699 --> 00:05:57.986 expecting, you know, pretty soon stomach contraction will start and then 00:05:58.019 --> 00:06:02.745 I'll call the doctor. So I, I walked out into the living room and I sat 00:06:02.778 --> 00:06:06.906 down on my sofa and my son, who was 4, was sitting on the sofa watching TV 00:06:06.939 --> 00:06:10.026 and everyone was kind of gathered in the living room, except for my mom in 00:06:10.059 --> 00:06:14.015 the kitchen doing the dishes and all of a sudden I felt a stomach 00:06:14.048 --> 00:06:19.947 contraction. So I was like, oh yes, finally something's happening. And 00:06:19.980 --> 00:06:25.947 like maybe 10 seconds later I felt a really strong stomach contraction and 00:06:25.980 --> 00:06:29.906 I jumped off the couch onto my knees so I'm on my hands and knees on the 00:06:29.939 --> 00:06:34.546 floor and my water just breaks everywhere and nobody understands what's 00:06:34.579 --> 00:06:40.447 happening. I said, oh my God, he's coming. And my dad's like, what? What's 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:44.575 , what's going on? And I said, get, get in the car or we're gonna go to 00:06:44.608 --> 00:06:48.286 the hospital or I started just screaming, I have this all on camera 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:52.697 actually because I had my, um, I bought this drop cam for the baby's room 00:06:52.730 --> 00:06:57.596 and I'd set it up in the living room so all of this I have recorded. 00:06:57.629 --> 00:07:01.745 But I can't watch it cause it makes me too nervous. 00:07:01.778 --> 00:07:05.286 So I, so luckily I jumped on the couch, there's no water on the couch, 00:07:05.319 --> 00:07:09.616 which was nice because I really love my couch, um. 00:07:09.649 --> 00:07:13.455 Uh, so they grab a towel. I had like a skirt on and I can't even walk at 00:07:13.488 --> 00:07:16.656 this point. It feels like the baby's coming out. Like it feels like as 00:07:16.689 --> 00:07:21.856 soon as my water broke, it feels like there's a head coming out. So. So 00:07:21.889 --> 00:07:26.156 the whole plan had been for me and my mom and Shawn to go to the hospital 00:07:26.189 --> 00:07:30.007 together and Dad and Bennett to stay home together so that my mom could be 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:33.526 there for the birth and and videotape it and everything. But at this point 00:07:33.559 --> 00:07:37.567 , I thought like the baby was coming out and I'm freaking out, so I, 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:41.926 because my dad was, had delivered babies before, I had him get in the car 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:45.805 with us and this also wasn't part of the plan, but I have like a small 00:07:45.838 --> 00:07:50.606 two-door car and we usually drive the kids around in Shaw's truck. But 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:54.205 because now we're leaving mom with Bennett, and this is like also rushed, 00:07:54.238 --> 00:07:57.245 we all just jumped in my little car. So my dad's in the backseat of a 00:07:57.278 --> 00:08:02.245 two-door car. I'm in the front seat and Shawn's driving, um, Sean, my 00:08:02.278 --> 00:08:08.887 husband. So, We finally we get on the road. It probably took us 45 seconds. 00:08:08.920 --> 00:08:12.205 We get on the road and we're driving towards the hospital, which is 20 00:08:12.238 --> 00:08:15.645 minutes away, so we have to get through downtown Scottsdale up the highway 00:08:15.678 --> 00:08:19.887 and over to the hospital, but downtown Scottsdale is full of traffic 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:24.687 because, uh, the spring training games have gotten out. So spring training 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:29.976 is in full effect, tons of cars on the road. It's probably 7:15 at night. 00:08:30.009 --> 00:08:35.946 My, we were ate dinner at 6. My water broke at 7:10. 00:08:35.979 --> 00:08:41.145 Uh, we're in the car at 7:15 and I can't even sit on my butt because 00:08:41.178 --> 00:08:46.427 there's feels like a head's coming out, so I'm leaning over. I, I'm like 00:08:46.460 --> 00:08:50.226 leaning on my butt one butt cheek. I got my hand against the door and my 00:08:50.259 --> 00:08:54.246 other hand's holding on to my emergency brake, but I didn't know it. So 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:59.086 I'm screaming and my dad, my dad the whole time is like, OK, so tell me 00:08:59.119 --> 00:09:02.936 what, what, how far apart of the contractions? And I can't talk and he 00:09:02.969 --> 00:09:05.486 keeps asking me and Shawn's like, I don't, I don't think you should be 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:08.366 asking her that. and Shawn's calling the doctors and he's like, we're on 00:09:08.399 --> 00:09:12.375 the way to the hospital. And Dad won't stop asking me how far apart my 00:09:12.408 --> 00:09:14.816 contractions are. I'm like, there, there are no contractions. It's like 00:09:14.849 --> 00:09:19.076 one big long contraction. There's no time in between. And the whole time 00:09:19.109 --> 00:09:25.167 I'm screaming, Daddy, Daddy, the baby's coming. I do 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:27.936 And Sean's like trying to get through, we're we're going through all these 00:09:27.969 --> 00:09:33.816 stoplights. We can't get, it probably took us. I don't know, 1520 minutes 00:09:33.849 --> 00:09:38.375 to get to the highway and I'm panicked. I thought, I thought for sure I 00:09:38.408 --> 00:09:43.476 was gonna have the baby in the car. So we get to the highway and by this 00:09:43.509 --> 00:09:47.145 point I realized I had had, I was pulling up on the emergency brake cause 00:09:47.178 --> 00:09:50.746 I I was just grabbing whatever I could. So I, I let go of the emergency 00:09:50.779 --> 00:09:55.076 brake. I grab on to Sean and he's getting on the highway and he's like, 00:09:55.109 --> 00:09:58.996 hey, I think he's up to 90 on the highway and I'm got a death grip on his 00:09:59.029 --> 00:10:03.755 arm and I'm biting his shoulder and screaming Daddy, Daddy, the baby's 00:10:03.788 --> 00:10:09.667 coming. Uh, and so I think he's going 90 down the highway, you know, 00:10:09.700 --> 00:10:11.976 finally we're actually like getting somewhere, so I feel a little bit 00:10:12.009 --> 00:10:17.145 better, but every bump is like radiating through my body and I'm yelling 00:10:17.178 --> 00:10:20.467 at Shaw now because we're going 90 down the highway in my little car and 00:10:20.500 --> 00:10:26.696 so I'm saying. You better not get in an accident. Do a story. Please don't 00:10:26.729 --> 00:10:32.407 get in that accident. So we finally then get to the Shea Boulevard exit 00:10:32.440 --> 00:10:36.885 and within a few minutes we're, we're to the hospital gate and Sean runs 00:10:36.918 --> 00:10:44.246 out, grabs a, um, Wheelchair and at this point too I'm in so much pain I 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:46.967 can't I'm like I can't get out. I don't know. I can't move. I can't get 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:50.976 out of the car. I'm still stuck in that sideways position and so he 00:10:51.009 --> 00:10:55.116 somehow him and my dad get me out of the car into the wheelchair, but I'm 00:10:55.149 --> 00:10:58.686 still like in these, these positions where I can't move and my flip flop 00:10:58.719 --> 00:11:04.407 is like somehow wedged between the wheel of the of the chair and I can't 00:11:04.440 --> 00:11:08.145 move my leg and at this point now I'm not no longer screaming daddy, now 00:11:08.178 --> 00:11:13.657 I'm screaming. F words all the way through the hospital so you have to go 00:11:13.690 --> 00:11:17.976 into the doors over to the elevator, up the elevator up floor, and then 00:11:18.009 --> 00:11:22.177 over to like the maternity ward. So Sean starts running through over to 00:11:22.210 --> 00:11:24.576 the elevators and there's all these people coming out and they all have 00:11:24.609 --> 00:11:29.557 smiles on their faces and I, I, I just remember their faces because I look 00:11:29.590 --> 00:11:35.167 I'm screaming F-bombs and, and grunting and sweating and. And I look at 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:37.525 them and they're all smiling and all of a sudden all their faces kind of 00:11:37.558 --> 00:11:41.726 freeze and they just jump out of the way and everyone jumps out of the 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:45.885 elevator and so Sean gets me on the elevator, we get upstairs and he 00:11:45.918 --> 00:11:49.005 starts running and my flip flops caught in the wheel, so it's like going 00:11:49.038 --> 00:11:52.566 flap, flap, flap, flap, flap, flap all the way to the, all the way to 00:11:52.599 --> 00:11:58.885 where the maternity ward is and Shawn's yelling. It's go time. All these 00:11:58.918 --> 00:12:01.746 people in the waiting area and so I'm here, I can hear all these people 00:12:01.779 --> 00:12:05.486 laughing, but I'm still in the middle of screaming the F word cause it 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:11.566 hurts so bad. I, I can't even describe the pain, but. It just went from 00:12:11.599 --> 00:12:16.236 like my back to my whole body and it feels like I, I felt the whole time I 00:12:16.269 --> 00:12:18.576 was just so terrified because it felt like there was a head coming out and 00:12:18.609 --> 00:12:20.576 I didn't want to look and I didn't want to put my hands down there because 00:12:20.609 --> 00:12:24.895 I knew like I'd feel the head and I have no idea really what was down 00:12:24.928 --> 00:12:28.436 there because I just didn't wanna look. I was too terrified. So Shawn's 00:12:28.469 --> 00:12:33.686 yelling, it's go time. At the guy at the front gate or at the front desk 00:12:33.719 --> 00:12:37.557 and he said, Who are you? And John yells, Dooley. And so the guy just 00:12:37.590 --> 00:12:41.366 opens the doors and they go flying open. He goes, Take your first right 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:44.927 and your first left. And there's these two nurses standing there waiting 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:47.366 for us. So everything went really fast once we got there. It was like 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:50.726 they're totally prepared. We, they wheel me into the room, which is kind 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:55.515 of like your check-in room. And, um, they somehow get me on the bed. I 00:12:55.548 --> 00:12:59.395 don't even remember how that happened, but everything's really painful. So 00:12:59.428 --> 00:13:04.417 it's so hard to move and it's so hard to talk or anything. And um the 00:13:04.450 --> 00:13:08.976 nurse takes one look and she says she's +2. We gotta get her into a room 00:13:09.009 --> 00:13:12.385 and I'm like, what does that mean? And so I look at one of the nurses and 00:13:12.418 --> 00:13:15.775 I say, well, can I get my epidural? because that's what I remember I loved 00:13:15.808 --> 00:13:19.525 so much about giving birth to Bennet. It's like once you got an epidural, 00:13:19.558 --> 00:13:23.427 it was a party. Like everything was awesome. We were making jokes with the 00:13:23.460 --> 00:13:27.407 doctor. Like that was fun and I really enjoyed that and the nurse looks at 00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:31.255 me and she's like, oh no, honey, you're not getting an epidural. And I 00:13:31.288 --> 00:13:35.976 just remember the look on Sean's face because I looked at him like, what? 00:13:36.009 --> 00:13:40.307 And he was like, I'm so sorry, Amy. You've got to be kidding me. I can't 00:13:40.340 --> 00:13:43.307 do this. I can't do this without an epidural because that's how I had 00:13:43.340 --> 00:13:46.917 Bennett and that all went fine, but now I'm not getting an epidural, and 00:13:46.950 --> 00:13:50.586 I'm totally freaked out because I'm so that girl that tells everyone, you 00:13:50.619 --> 00:13:54.177 just get an epidural, it'll be all fine. 00:13:54.210 --> 00:13:58.217 It's great. I don't, I don't understand why people don't get an epidural. 00:13:58.250 --> 00:14:03.765 So I'm not getting an epidural at this point. And I think so time-wise. 00:14:03.798 --> 00:14:07.787 It took us about 25 minutes to get to the hospital and I don't know if I'm 00:14:07.820 --> 00:14:12.346 adding it up right, but I know, um, I got into the hospital room, the 00:14:12.379 --> 00:14:15.385 delivery room at 8:07, 00:14:15.418 --> 00:14:19.005 and somehow, so they, they wheel me in on the one bed and they tell me I 00:14:19.038 --> 00:14:23.066 have to get onto the other bed. And at this point, my voice, I'm like 00:14:23.099 --> 00:14:27.336 crying. I, I'm like panicked. I can't get on that bed. How do I get on 00:14:27.369 --> 00:14:31.976 that bed? And, and I don't even know. I did it. Nobody touched me. I like 00:14:32.009 --> 00:14:36.856 crab walked onto the other bed and it hurt so bad. That's all I remember. 00:14:36.889 --> 00:14:42.125 I was in so much pain and so they, they take another look at me and 00:14:42.158 --> 00:14:45.297 they're like, don't push yet. The doctor's coming in. But there was no 00:14:45.330 --> 00:14:49.736 like I had been trying not to push since my water broke. So I had been 00:14:49.769 --> 00:14:54.076 trying the whole time in the car not to push. And I'm in the hospital bed 00:14:54.109 --> 00:14:58.116 and I just have to push because at this point I've, I've been like this 00:14:58.149 --> 00:15:02.755 for 35, 40 minutes now. So the, the another doctor comes running in my 00:15:02.788 --> 00:15:06.236 doctor's not there yet. Another doctor comes running in and all I can 00:15:06.269 --> 00:15:09.677 remember remember seeing is she's hurriedly trying to put on her gloves 00:15:09.710 --> 00:15:15.826 and I got this one crazy. Uh, strong contraction and I started to let out 00:15:15.859 --> 00:15:20.625 this whale and like my whole body just like let loose like this whale, it 00:15:20.658 --> 00:15:25.826 sounded like it started really. It started really loud and it got so loud 00:15:25.859 --> 00:15:30.297 that it hurt my ears, it hurt my husband's ears, it sounded like a jet 00:15:30.330 --> 00:15:35.255 engine taking off, it was like so primal and weird, like I was embarrassed 00:15:35.288 --> 00:15:42.167 by myself while I was doing it, but at the same time I couldn't stop. 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:47.836 So During that whole yell, the baby just like came out like that was just 00:15:47.869 --> 00:15:51.677 it. It just flew out. Like I felt like the doctor barely got her gloves on. 00:15:51.710 --> 00:15:55.976 I had to like catch Austin. So. 00:15:56.009 --> 00:15:59.446 So the baby's out and all of a sudden like my body is, it's like a total 00:15:59.479 --> 00:16:04.135 180 like it felt amazing all of a sudden I, it was all gone, all the pain 00:16:04.168 --> 00:16:09.996 was gone. They have the baby now over at the washing station or whatever 00:16:10.029 --> 00:16:13.196 they do, they're weighing them or checking them and I also I remember 00:16:13.229 --> 00:16:18.236 hearing is a nurse say, Hey, we've got a ginger baby. So I have this 00:16:18.269 --> 00:16:23.775 little boy with bright red hair already. He had a full head of red hair 00:16:23.808 --> 00:16:27.596 and the other nurses are like congratulating me and telling me how awesome 00:16:27.629 --> 00:16:33.275 I did and what a, a great job and, and next thing I know, my dad comes 00:16:33.308 --> 00:16:37.696 walking in and he's like, all right. We're ready to go? And the nurses are 00:16:37.729 --> 00:16:42.297 like, no, the baby's out already. So my dad in the time that they dropped 00:16:42.330 --> 00:16:45.375 me off at the front door, parked the car and came up and I'd already had 00:16:45.408 --> 00:16:51.557 the baby, so it was 8:12. So I got into the delivery room about 80807, 808 00:16:51.590 --> 00:16:56.496 and had the baby by 8:12. This was really fast. Everything Austin's ever 00:16:56.529 --> 00:17:01.717 done was fast ever since then, but. Um, and then probably about 2 minutes 00:17:01.750 --> 00:17:06.075 after my dad walked in, my doctor walked in looking like just in his 00:17:06.108 --> 00:17:09.637 t-shirt like he had just gotten there. And my dad like looked at him and 00:17:09.670 --> 00:17:15.295 laughed and says, we beat you. And so that was pretty much it. The next 00:17:15.328 --> 00:17:18.097 day I remember my doctor coming back to visit me and he said something 00:17:18.130 --> 00:17:21.627 about how smoothly I went and I was like so aghast because it was so 00:17:21.660 --> 00:17:25.055 dramatic for me. I didn't feel like anything went smoothly, but when you 00:17:25.088 --> 00:17:28.256 look back on it, it went really smoothly. Like the baby just came out. 00:17:28.289 --> 00:17:32.857 There was no complications. I was barely in labor for 35 minutes, but it 00:17:32.890 --> 00:17:37.976 just felt like a lot of drama and a lot of craziness and like I almost had 00:17:38.009 --> 00:17:42.976 a baby on the highway, so for me it wasn't smooth, but. I guess in 00:17:43.009 --> 00:17:50.006 hindsight it was. Yeah. So you actually had back. Only back labor until my 00:17:50.039 --> 00:17:53.726 water broke. Most people have back and then they go in and they get their 00:17:53.759 --> 00:17:57.217 epidural. 00:17:57.250 --> 00:18:00.847 Yeah. Yeah. It's weird that they sent me home and because with Bennett, I 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:07.325 had him and um I only pushed for 40 minutes. So it wasn't like he was long 00:18:07.358 --> 00:18:11.867 and my doctor knew me, so he, I would have thought. Would have been more 00:18:11.900 --> 00:18:14.736 careful, and he kept telling me how this one was gonna happen much quicker 00:18:14.769 --> 00:18:18.347 , but he sent me home. 00:18:18.380 --> 00:18:21.035 And so I'm waiting the whole time I'm like, what? And I'm such like a good 00:18:21.068 --> 00:18:24.717 , like I just follow the rules and like I just wanna like impress my 00:18:24.750 --> 00:18:28.117 doctor so I didn't want to like call him with anything else until 00:18:28.150 --> 00:18:31.357 something else happened. And that's the only thing my dad said to the 00:18:31.390 --> 00:18:36.526 doctor. He's like, well, something happened, we called you. 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:39.085 I'm just glad I didn't have him in my car because my dad couldn't have 00:18:39.118 --> 00:18:42.805 even done anything about it. He's stuck in the back of the two-seater, so 00:18:42.838 --> 00:18:46.196 unless we pulled over, there was nothing like anybody could have helped me 00:18:46.229 --> 00:18:54.075 with at that point. So what was your experience from your first song? Um, 00:18:54.108 --> 00:18:59.387 I think I was so. shooken up by everything that happened, like all the 00:18:59.420 --> 00:19:03.637 adrenaline as soon as he came out and like about the time they put him on 00:19:03.670 --> 00:19:07.266 me, the adrenaline like started kicking in and I was like totally 00:19:07.299 --> 00:19:10.075 shivering and shaking and they had to cover me with a bunch of blankets 00:19:10.108 --> 00:19:14.795 because I think my body was just in shock after all that, but I felt like 00:19:14.828 --> 00:19:18.397 I could enjoy it a lot more when when they put him on me than with Bennett 00:19:18.430 --> 00:19:21.986 because with Bennett, I was like so freaked out. About what that looked 00:19:22.019 --> 00:19:25.906 like, what a brand new baby looked like, and it was like disgusting, but 00:19:25.939 --> 00:19:30.666 with uh I was a little bit more ready for it. So it was really sweet and I 00:19:30.699 --> 00:19:34.666 like immediately I could immediately breastfeed him and he like, he was 00:19:34.699 --> 00:19:37.585 such an easy baby. Everything was easy. He immediately started 00:19:37.618 --> 00:19:43.746 breastfeeding. He, you know, slept that night and so as much, it was funny 00:19:43.779 --> 00:19:48.887 because with Bennett, the whole. Birth was really fun and exciting and 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:52.516 nice, but then, you know, once I had the baby, it was crazy and dramatic 00:19:52.549 --> 00:19:56.835 and hard to do. But with Austin, it was like the opposite. Once I had the 00:19:56.868 --> 00:20:03.637 baby, he was so easy and you know, uneventful and just easy to enjoy and 00:20:03.670 --> 00:20:09.535 whereas his birth was crazy and out of control. So it was like total 00:20:09.568 --> 00:20:13.347 opposites, those two. 00:20:13.380 --> 00:20:16.746 That's intense. 00:20:16.779 --> 00:20:21.347 That's interesting. Um, so you had had a birth plan. It was like to get 00:20:21.380 --> 00:20:27.555 the Yeah, I was gonna go in a couple hours before, you know, the pain got 00:20:27.588 --> 00:20:32.585 too bad because I would feel, you know, I would know what it felt like and 00:20:32.618 --> 00:20:35.377 then I would get the epidural and then we'd hang out in the delivery room 00:20:35.410 --> 00:20:38.585 for an hour and then I'd push him out in 40 minutes just like I did with 00:20:38.618 --> 00:20:44.555 Bennett, but none of that happened so that totally. Freaks me out and and 00:20:44.588 --> 00:20:49.976 I do the one thing I remember, um, right when the baby was coming out. 00:20:50.009 --> 00:20:54.016 Thinking, I can't believe that I'm feeling this right now because you 00:20:54.049 --> 00:20:58.055 could just feel it. I felt like your body was like dripping apart like 00:20:58.088 --> 00:21:01.936 down there. Like it just felt awful. It felt everything like you thought 00:21:01.969 --> 00:21:06.217 it was gonna feel like times 10 and I was so pissed that I had to feel it 00:21:06.250 --> 00:21:10.867 because I just wanted the epidural so fast. 00:21:10.900 --> 00:21:15.736 Uh, uh, it was awful, that pain, but it does, you know, it goes away right 00:21:15.769 --> 00:21:20.045 away. And then you, you do kind of get the lady that comes in afterwards 00:21:20.078 --> 00:21:23.006 and like pushes on your stomach to get all that crap out, and that was 00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:26.766 pretty painful too, which I never knew because I had the epidural before. 00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:31.285 So all that gross stuff, the epidural kind of helped me with on the first 00:21:31.318 --> 00:21:34.726 one. So it was, it was actually really good that this all happened 00:21:34.759 --> 00:21:37.016 obviously for the second child because I don't think I'll have another 00:21:37.049 --> 00:21:44.936 child after that. I'd be afraid I'd have him in the shower on the toilet. 00:21:44.969 --> 00:21:50.127 I realize how lucky you are though. I mean like that's amazing. I, I am 00:21:50.160 --> 00:21:55.926 glad I experienced it now. Like I'm glad that it went down the way it did 00:21:55.959 --> 00:21:59.166 and that I actually did have a baby without having an epidural because now 00:21:59.199 --> 00:22:03.486 I know what it feels like and I think that's kind of cool. Yeah, not many 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:10.295 people have a story to tell, yeah. Mhm. 00:22:10.328 --> 00:22:16.686 It's like being in a race car. Yeah, I was scary for Sean. Yeah, he was 00:22:16.719 --> 00:22:20.686 pretty freaked out. He was terrified. Yeah, because he's probably worried 00:22:20.719 --> 00:22:24.805 about your safety. Yeah, he was. He was worried like the baby was coming 00:22:24.838 --> 00:22:29.006 because I'm yelling, baby's coming out. I can feel his head. I don't know 00:22:29.039 --> 00:22:33.085 what to do. And he's like, just hold on, and my legs are literally crossed 00:22:33.118 --> 00:22:38.367 and Yeah, I can't imagine fighting against that urge to push because women 00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:43.847 talk about this like just so like intense. Yeah, that's that was the worst 00:22:43.880 --> 00:22:48.776 part, and it wasn't, it wasn't. It wasn't like every 5 seconds. It was 00:22:48.809 --> 00:22:52.857 just a constant pressure down there. This baby is just like trying to come 00:22:52.890 --> 00:22:57.496 out the whole time. There was no contractions. It was just a constant like 00:22:57.529 --> 00:23:04.696 one push. I probably could have had the baby right after my water broke. 00:23:04.729 --> 00:23:08.026 But you wouldn't know if the cord would be tied around it, because the 00:23:08.059 --> 00:23:10.867 cord was tied around with Bennett's neck too, so that kind of freaked me 00:23:10.900 --> 00:23:13.565 out. I was thinking about that. I mean, it's not a big deal when you have 00:23:13.598 --> 00:23:16.026 it in the hospital and it's tied around their neck and it just comes out 00:23:16.059 --> 00:23:21.555 and they untie it. But if you're in a car, you don't know what's happening. 00:23:21.588 --> 00:23:27.045 I just was doing everything in my power to keep the baby's head in. 00:23:27.078 --> 00:23:30.456 And there's, it was a weird night because there were two other bursts that 00:23:30.489 --> 00:23:33.217 night that actually didn't make it to the hospital. And one of them was my 00:23:33.250 --> 00:23:38.795 doctor's patient too. She had on our porch. So it was a weird night 00:23:38.828 --> 00:23:41.976 overall, like everyone was having these crazy. Another girl had had had 00:23:42.009 --> 00:23:46.637 her baby down in the. I think it was down in the turnaround where I first 00:23:46.670 --> 00:23:51.897 pulled in. So it was a weird night. I wasn't the worst story of the night. 00:23:51.930 --> 00:23:56.186 Was there a full moon? There wasn't, and I thought, I, I asked, I 00:23:56.219 --> 00:23:58.506 remember thinking, I wonder if it's a full moon tonight, but it was just 00:23:58.539 --> 00:24:01.785 one of those crazy nights and you, I mean, you heard alarms all night in 00:24:01.818 --> 00:24:08.016 the hospital, so. I don't know what happened, but it was crazy. 00:24:08.049 --> 00:24:13.150 OK, well, I think that I think we're good unless you want to tell Bennets. 00:24:13.618 --> 00:24:15.618 Think Bennets, it was just so. It was so much more boring than that. I 00:24:19.479 --> 00:24:23.137 don't really think that any of them are boring though. 00:24:23.170 --> 00:24:27.936 Trying to think of anything about his, I mean, his was just. The funniest 00:24:27.969 --> 00:24:33.315 thing was with his was that I never went to any of the prenatal classes or 00:24:33.348 --> 00:24:35.996 like even the introductory to the hospital. So when we got to the hospital 00:24:36.029 --> 00:24:39.916 , we didn't know where to go so we ended up getting lost in the bowels of 00:24:39.949 --> 00:24:43.916 the hospital and I ended up walking about 1.5 in the hospital before I 00:24:43.949 --> 00:24:48.967 figured out where to go, which I think made his a lot easier. So once I 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:53.967 got into the, into the room, I think, you know, I was in the the initial 00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:58.246 check-in room for 30 minutes and my water broke and I still didn't have an 00:24:58.279 --> 00:25:02.367 epidural at that point and that started to really, the pain was really bad 00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:08.936 then. I have a lot of back labor, so it's a lot of pain in the back and. 00:25:08.969 --> 00:25:12.526 And I was waiting for someone to have twins so that I could get my 00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:15.967 epidural because it was a Sunday and there was only one person working. So 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:19.006 then when she came in and gave me the epidural, which before you ever have 00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:22.006 an epidural, you're really freaked out about those because you, it's like 00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:27.736 a needle in the back. Um, So I was really freaked out about even getting 00:25:27.769 --> 00:25:31.545 an epidural during that one. And when she gave it to me, it was like I was 00:25:31.578 --> 00:25:37.065 floating on clouds and my doctor would come in and we'd joke and like make 00:25:37.098 --> 00:25:40.305 and laugh about things and everyone was like having a party. My mom's 00:25:40.338 --> 00:25:48.035 video taping it and so it's so much more. I don't know, enjoyable. It was 00:25:48.068 --> 00:25:52.325 kind of like just hanging out and waiting for a baby to come. Once, um, 00:25:52.358 --> 00:25:57.857 they he was finally like ready for me to push. I probably pushed a series 00:25:57.890 --> 00:26:01.565 of 5 times total, and then the thing that was freaking me out most then 00:26:01.598 --> 00:26:04.726 was I was worried I was gonna poop because everyone thought something poop 00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:07.857 or pee on the doctor. And I really liked my doctor, so I didn't want to 00:26:07.890 --> 00:26:12.436 poop or pee on him. So that that was like the biggest fear at that during 00:26:12.469 --> 00:26:16.526 that delivery. And I, I was pushing and I remember I was making these 00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:20.446 really weird noises when I was pushing so cause I can, I have a video of 00:26:20.479 --> 00:26:26.347 it, so I can go back and listen, but it's kind of like a pig squealing. 00:26:26.380 --> 00:26:31.026 Not anything near what I did with Austin, but so it's a very weird, it's 00:26:31.059 --> 00:26:35.107 very strange having a baby, but I I was just pushing so hard. I wanted the 00:26:35.140 --> 00:26:38.026 baby to come out. I wanted to do good and that's my whole personality is 00:26:38.059 --> 00:26:43.696 like impressing other people and the doctor and having a really like fast 00:26:43.729 --> 00:26:47.065 you know delivery because I pushed hard enough. So Bennett just came out 00:26:47.098 --> 00:26:53.137 after 5 pushes and he was just once he came out he was all drama. Like 00:26:53.170 --> 00:26:57.686 couldn't get him to eat. Couldn't get him to not cry, couldn't get him to 00:26:57.719 --> 00:27:00.186 burp. 00:27:00.219 --> 00:27:03.127 but that was probably also because it was my first baby and I didn't know 00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:07.906 what to do with them, so I got a lot of help from all the nurses for two 00:27:07.939 --> 00:27:11.706 days and they all had a different opinion, so it was stressful afterwards 00:27:11.739 --> 00:27:17.565 , but. I really enjoyed his birth. It was a party. Remember the doctor 00:27:17.598 --> 00:27:22.526 told us one story. Right before I started pushing, his wife is a 00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:26.516 pediatrician at the Phoenix Children's Hospital, and she had just called 00:27:26.549 --> 00:27:31.706 him with a birth story of a lady coming in. She had had her baby in a 00:27:31.739 --> 00:27:36.367 hotel room. And she was high on drugs and when she got there, the nurses 00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:41.357 asked her what she wanted to name her baby and she said hot dog. And the 00:27:41.390 --> 00:27:44.916 nurses were all so appalled and like felt so bad for this little baby that 00:27:44.949 --> 00:27:49.035 they all called him Oscar. And so then, um, you know, we go through the 00:27:49.068 --> 00:27:52.535 birth and we have the birth and we hadn't told anyone the name. It was a 00:27:52.568 --> 00:27:57.436 surprise. And so when we had the baby, uh, the, uh, my doctor says, well, 00:27:57.469 --> 00:28:00.236 you know, hot dogs are already taken, but you could probably name them 00:28:00.269 --> 00:28:05.416 corndog. So that was his job. 00:28:05.449 --> 00:28:10.156 I know so bad. 00:28:10.189 --> 00:28:16.196 Oh my goodness. OK, so we're separating these into themes. Do you have any 00:28:16.229 --> 00:28:20.916 like word or it could it could be a descriptive word or a noun or whatever 00:28:20.949 --> 00:28:25.676 that you think would encapsulate kind of your experience. Um, we call 00:28:25.709 --> 00:28:29.877 Austin where we nicknamed him. We don't actually even call him that, but 00:28:29.910 --> 00:28:33.406 his little camera now in his room, we call it Flash. And that's kind of 00:28:33.439 --> 00:28:40.686 how we describe him like it's either flash or speed or everything is just 00:28:40.719 --> 00:28:48.719 full bore, so. I guess that's how I would describe his and. 00:28:49.009 --> 00:28:55.585 Yeah. Yeah, that's great. Do you have any questions? OK. I think we're 00:28:55.618 --> 00:28:59.318 good. Yeah. Thank you.