WEBVTT 00:00:01.470 --> 00:00:05.436 That's it, and all of my other aunts and uncles are still here. So you 00:00:05.469 --> 00:00:10.236 were saying that you have a family history of home birth? Yeah, my grandma 00:00:10.269 --> 00:00:16.436 , she has 11 kids and she had them all at home except for one that she had 00:00:16.469 --> 00:00:22.276 complications and the other one she had, um, I think she had stillbirth on 00:00:22.309 --> 00:00:27.276 that one. Yes, that was the only other complications second one was there 00:00:27.309 --> 00:00:30.916 a midwife that was working with her, or was it just there's always a 00:00:30.949 --> 00:00:35.546 midwife that will be there with her, yeah. So there was a tradition of 00:00:35.579 --> 00:00:43.146 midwifery in um in the Zia Pueblos, is that or is that just? Yeah, because 00:00:43.179 --> 00:00:46.146 um the midwives that we still have, they're the ones they're the first 00:00:46.179 --> 00:00:50.097 ladies that come and see their babies and take them out to the sun to name 00:00:50.130 --> 00:00:54.896 them. Yeah, so we always have to have our midwives instead of ones that do 00:00:54.929 --> 00:01:02.929 that for us. Did you have a midwife? Yeah. Yeah. So who is your midwife? 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:07.105 Oh, her name is, don't have to tell me the name, but is she from this area 00:01:07.138 --> 00:01:13.197 or how did you meet her? Um, she's actually my dad's godmother. Yeah, so I 00:01:13.230 --> 00:01:20.165 , I know her and then um one of my grandmothers, which would be my dad's 00:01:20.198 --> 00:01:22.926 my dad's. 00:01:22.959 --> 00:01:29.456 No, that would be my dad's dad's wife, yeah. 00:01:29.489 --> 00:01:35.135 It is the is the one that did hers and then the other lady did my um my 00:01:35.168 --> 00:01:39.736 two boys, my dad's grandmother did my two boys. Did you still give birth 00:01:39.769 --> 00:01:44.105 to them in the hospital? Yeah. And then that was when we on the first day 00:01:44.138 --> 00:01:47.915 when you first come home then they meet you here and then that's when they 00:01:47.948 --> 00:01:53.947 take your baby out to name as long as the sun is out. 00:01:53.980 --> 00:01:58.206 How was the pregnancy? Was the first birth expected? I mean, was the 00:01:58.239 --> 00:02:03.995 pregnancy expected? Um, yeah, we kind of like wanted him. The second one 00:02:04.028 --> 00:02:12.028 was a surprise. And then this one, she was a trial. Oh. 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:17.876 You just wanted that girl, huh? Yeah, my girl. So was there anything 00:02:17.909 --> 00:02:21.995 unusual about the pregnancy or were you, did you, were you, um, told what 00:02:22.028 --> 00:02:26.275 to expect and did your family share that information with you? Yeah, yeah 00:02:26.308 --> 00:02:31.436 , and just like going to, um, um, have you been to amas to learn their 00:02:31.469 --> 00:02:35.036 stuff? No, they have a cradle Club thing and I went to that for my first 00:02:35.069 --> 00:02:40.487 one, so that's how I learned all like everything to expect and Yeah, so 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:43.886 they, they had that collaboration with Z and Heus to do that and it was 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:51.639 just a lady that um. Carried on with it, so she does it and he was still. 00:02:51.750 --> 00:02:53.750 Did you enjoy being pregnant? I love it. I love it, except the morning 00:02:56.469 --> 00:03:01.677 sickness. I will pass morning sickness any day, but. 00:03:01.710 --> 00:03:08.396 Um, did you have a medicated birth or not? Um, I had to because when my 00:03:08.429 --> 00:03:12.436 son, when I was induced to my first one, 00:03:12.469 --> 00:03:16.737 I only went like so many centimeters so I had to have cesarean. My second 00:03:16.770 --> 00:03:22.255 one, I never dilated, so I had to like cesarean, and this one, her her 00:03:22.288 --> 00:03:25.816 umbilical cord was wrapped around her neck and she pushed herself back up 00:03:25.849 --> 00:03:29.085 so I had to have a cesarean. 00:03:29.118 --> 00:03:34.995 Yeah, so all three of them was Cesareans. Tell me about a little bit more 00:03:35.028 --> 00:03:38.475 about that first birth you were saying there were, you know, unexpected 00:03:38.508 --> 00:03:43.916 complications. Oh yeah, because well when we went in and they got inded 00:03:43.949 --> 00:03:47.356 they had already told me like you know they they have that already um 00:03:47.389 --> 00:03:52.517 percentage of or how would you say yeah, there's a percentage that there 00:03:52.550 --> 00:03:58.856 might be um I may end up having a cesarean because inducing. 00:03:58.889 --> 00:04:02.055 I don't know, sometimes it does that or something. How, why were you 00:04:02.088 --> 00:04:07.967 induced? I was 2 weeks overdue. Yeah, I went to 42 weeks. How big was the 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:16.000 baby? He was 813, yeah, and 22 inches. Yeah, and he's still a big boy. 00:04:18.189 --> 00:04:21.906 Um, do you find, and we've noticed this in talking to women in the area 00:04:21.939 --> 00:04:25.507 here that there's this culture of community and taking care of each 00:04:25.540 --> 00:04:30.986 other's children and having extended family here. Is that the case? Yeah, 00:04:31.019 --> 00:04:34.467 everybody takes care of each other's kids like when stuff is going on, 00:04:34.500 --> 00:04:40.075 like recently we had some um some doings going on and I had to be there so 00:04:40.108 --> 00:04:43.825 when we take her up there and everybody's like, you know, helping her out 00:04:43.858 --> 00:04:47.976 , playing with her, even like the kids sit around they like take care of 00:04:48.009 --> 00:04:51.387 the babies while we're working and doing something and we all sit around 00:04:51.420 --> 00:04:57.067 like they play with her ladies will feed her or ginger. 00:04:57.100 --> 00:05:02.127 The men too seem really involved in nurturing the children, which is not 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:06.236 really like in the area that I live, that is not necessarily the case, you 00:05:06.269 --> 00:05:14.269 know, so it's nice to see her. Oh, I'm daddy adores you. Yeah. Well, it's 00:05:15.059 --> 00:05:18.555 , it is his little girl, right? 00:05:18.588 --> 00:05:22.856 Yeah, you're the little princess. 00:05:22.889 --> 00:05:26.296 So were you and your siblings then because you're saying your grandmother 00:05:26.329 --> 00:05:29.217 had all of her children in the home. Were you and your siblings all born 00:05:29.250 --> 00:05:33.015 in the hospital or did your mother ever have any homes? So, um, we were 00:05:33.048 --> 00:05:41.048 born in hospitals because of my um my sister. Um, I don't remember what 00:05:41.850 --> 00:05:46.656 happened with her, but she ended up smelling him acomium so so she was 00:05:46.689 --> 00:05:51.736 like staying in the hospital for a while. Um, for me, I was the unexpected 00:05:51.769 --> 00:05:58.166 one. And um yeah, she didn't really know my due date, so when she went 00:05:58.199 --> 00:06:06.199 into labor, they just rushed to the hospital and then Yeah, my brother 00:06:06.750 --> 00:06:10.575 My brother, I think she just plant to have him down there. Was that 00:06:10.608 --> 00:06:15.476 something that was um That she wanted to make that transition from the 00:06:15.509 --> 00:06:19.476 home to the hospital, or was that kind of forced upon her? I think it was 00:06:19.509 --> 00:06:23.197 her own. Yeah, because I don't know. I guess people see other 00:06:23.230 --> 00:06:28.995 complications now. And then too, because my mom, before she had, she had 00:06:29.028 --> 00:06:33.726 one stillborn and one miscarriage already. So I think that was the reason 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:39.387 why she kind of said she'd just go down that way. 00:06:39.420 --> 00:06:43.305 Do you think so do you have any, you're not, your children are old enough 00:06:43.338 --> 00:06:47.265 to have babies at this point, right? Do you think you'll be there for the 00:06:47.298 --> 00:06:52.166 birth, or do you have any, have you ever thought about that? And even like 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:56.046 my grandma, she stayed there with me all my two days and I have both my 00:06:56.079 --> 00:07:00.067 boys. Well, she actually stayed there 2 days because I was in labor for 2 00:07:00.100 --> 00:07:05.507 days and she stayed there with me. Yeah, but then sadly she passed before 00:07:05.540 --> 00:07:08.075 this one. 00:07:08.108 --> 00:07:10.926 Well, you've been extremely helpful to us. Is there anything else you want 00:07:10.959 --> 00:07:14.395 to contribute, anything else you wanna say about the birth process or 00:07:14.428 --> 00:07:21.455 motherhood, or anything that pertains to your, um, culture? Um, just that 00:07:21.488 --> 00:07:26.305 , like, we try to keep the um male alive, you know, like we keep that, we 00:07:26.338 --> 00:07:30.067 try to keep that going, keep it by the tradition. I think it's like really 00:07:30.100 --> 00:07:36.937 , really important to us. Why? Um, because I mean that's tradition for her 00:07:36.970 --> 00:07:41.395 to be the one to come out and name your baby for you, and you know, like, 00:07:41.428 --> 00:07:46.145 um, and we bless their beds with like certain beds that they lay in while 00:07:46.178 --> 00:07:52.687 they're born or like first born. Yeah, so they come out, they bust those. 00:07:52.720 --> 00:07:55.526 And that's important for you to keep that going on with your 00:07:55.559 --> 00:07:58.717 grandchildren. 00:07:58.750 --> 00:08:03.656 What about language? Is that the naming and uh the part of it is that is 00:08:03.689 --> 00:08:08.217 that something that um is important to kind of keep going to? Yeah, I 00:08:08.250 --> 00:08:12.776 think so. I think it's important for us to have like our to get to like 00:08:12.809 --> 00:08:16.817 learn and know our like culture like to how to say it like because there's 00:08:16.850 --> 00:08:21.217 a certain way you say it like to introduce yourself, to say like your your 00:08:21.250 --> 00:08:26.166 name, your clan, and who you are. Yeah, so I, I think that's a big part of 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:30.205 it, because how else are you gonna tell people who you are and like they 00:08:30.238 --> 00:08:35.677 say when you pass on and you go to like our traditional um like our 00:08:35.710 --> 00:08:42.275 traditional god, yeah, then you have to be able to say who you are, so. I 00:08:42.308 --> 00:08:45.755 think that's the reason why I say it's like a big, big deal for us. Can 00:08:45.788 --> 00:08:53.788 you, can you say, tell us your name and your tribe? 00:08:56.389 --> 00:08:58.076 Yeah, it, it starts at your Guin and see. This is, um, I'm a female. My 00:08:58.109 --> 00:09:02.385 name is Elena gotchain and I'm from a coote class. 00:09:02.418 --> 00:09:05.917 That's nice. Thank you so much. You've been incredible. I'm gonna turn 00:09:05.950 --> 00:09:09.668 this off unless you have any other questions, OK.