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 I, I look back and I've, I've. A lot of people say we were poor, and we

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have no resources. I always think
that's a lie. I always say that's a lie

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, because we've got everything. And
life out there. You can stand at the

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top of a hill and look around.
Everything's there. If you look, if you

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listen, if you have knowledge, and you
can. Be the richest person there. I

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was a little girl when I used to herd
sheep and I found this 2 by 4. We

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didn't have any toys in those days,
and I never knew there was a town or

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another place besides where we lived,
the whole gun.

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And I was hurting the sheep and I
found this 2 by 4. And I looked at it

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and I thought, I wonder what they use
this for, because we don't use

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lumbers in our hoa. But on the wagon,
there are boards. So I guess I got

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to talking about my grandpa. He told
me they were lumbers. And then one

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day I was sitting there looking at
the, the, the 2 by 4. And I started

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running this imagination. It's just a
little girl, and then I thought.

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This is my baby. This is my towel.

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And I tore up one of my bottom skirt
off and I wrap it. And I don't know

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who told me to to how to take care of
the baby. But I used to hide it in

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the sagebrush because if I took it
home, my grandma would build a fire

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with it.

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So every time I go there, she I pick
it up and talk to that board. I don't

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know, maybe the wind took it away,
maybe my grandma found it and built a

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fire with it. Uh, but that, that was
my childhood, you know, so. Um, along

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with that, my, my grandparents and my
parents, they talked to me about

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someday I'm gonna have a family of my
own.

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And then I thought, what are they
telling me? Am I good enough, you know,

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I'm a child here. And there was my
aunt and my sister, but the, the PIA

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school takes them away and they go to
school somewhere. I don't even know.

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So I stay home. I heard she I wasn't old enough to go to school. So I

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learned to ride horse. It was a lot of
um. A venture that I. I see, but

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besides becoming a mom and all the
preparation of being brought up. With

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the firm and instruction and. And all
the artwork, how to take care of the

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livestock, how to fix it for meat, how
to use the wool to make dress and

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blankets and. I learned all those
things. We were taken away from a

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boarding school. They just load us up
and hauled us away. And I didn't see

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my parents for 9 months at a time. And
they do all kinds of stuff to us.

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They I have real long hair, they cut
it up. Because I don't know how to

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braid my hair. And what I learned, it
took me a long time to braid it, so

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they just chop it up.

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That That's how I went to school and I
always told my kids. You know,

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You're very fortunate. Your mom, your
dad can't speak English.

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My parents didn't speak English. And
my, my father. He told me he says, um.

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Go to school And I want you to go at
this piece of paper. Why people are

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talking about a piece of paper. He
said, go get it and show me what it

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looks like. He said they call it
diploma.

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I said I'll look forward. I didn't
know what it looked like I was just a

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little girl, so. I went and I, I. I
went to school and first I, I was in

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high school when I met my children's
father. I was sitting in the

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classroom and he was sitting behind
me. He had a pin and poked me right

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here. And he said, what's your name?
And I didn't know what to tell him. I

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just didn't bother him for the the I
think the 3rd day I finally told him

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. I, I didn't tell him my name, but I
told him I got transferred. He asked

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me where I was from. Because I mean,
um, I came in in midterm.

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And he says, you're really smart. I
said maybe. I don't know. So he kept

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doing it and pretty soon we, he said,
let's go to the ceremony together.

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So we went, I didn't know he didn't
speak Navajo. He was brought up in a

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mission. So I, I was talking to him in
Navajo and he said, I don't

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understand what you're saying. That's
how we met. We started going

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together and he asked me if he could
meet my parents. I said no.

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My mom, my dad said I'm not ready. I
gotta go get a piece of paper. And I

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got my diploma. My father and my
mother were there. When I walked across

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the stage, I went to them. And I
opened my diploma and I told my dad, this

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is what it looks like. He said,
Archie.

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This is what they're talking about. He
spent 12 years away from us. What

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did they teach you to give you a piece
of paper?

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We have worldwide reservation Hawaii,
what do you learn. It's higher than

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that piece of paper.

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He wasn't angry but that was his
remark. And then right there he told me

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by now I think you know. You're not
done. You had to go again. You go to

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college, something called college. Go
over there. There's another paper

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that go get it. When I had my first
child, my, I was still in school. My

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grandmother is the one that delivered
me.

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And of course they don't talk about
it.

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Nobody told me. It's private. And It's
not gonna be exactly the way they

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experience my parents. Um, I heard a
lot of stuff through school. Our

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health

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And uh but it didn't dawn on me. It
was just talk. It's not because

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somebody had a baby with a horrible
pain.

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And uh some of them didn't even show
they were having babies. And

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The only thing she told me is, um, my
dad got so scared, he panic, he

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packed his stuff and took them
outside. And he put them all against the

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hill and put the food out there,
blankets. I don't know why he was

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thinking. And then they told him, you
come back in here, you have a little

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girl.

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So my, my, my grandmother said.

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Who are we to talk about somebody
else?

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Because it's our own personal
experience. I went to the hospital.

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I, I have my babies in the hospital.

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I was by myself. I

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That's the way it was, you know, they
never were there when we were with

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our whoever we made with and. You
know, it's something we made a decision

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on to have a baby.

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And that the baby is born, then they
come in.

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My labors were really painful. I want
the pain to go away, but I have my

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little girl. I look at my daughter and
what I saw on that board, the 2 by

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4, that's what my daughter looked
like.

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Maybe similar black hair and. And I
just cry. I cried because that's what

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I saw. That was the love I saw when I
was a little girl. When I left the

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hospital from Tuba, I told him I want
to go home. And they said, do you

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have a right? I didn't want to be in
there, so I said, yes, I have a right.

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So they gave me some little blankets
and some bottle and I don't remember

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what else they gave me. I was just a
little kid myself and then I went to

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this mission in Cuba. And then I found
out we ran out of milk. I wasn't

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nursing her. I tried to nurse her. She
wouldn't, she won't even swallow

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any. So I left her there. Talking
about uh child like. I left, I look

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around, there was nobody around. So I
put her to bed and had had hidden

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her behind on the blanket and I ran
all the way down to the trading post.

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It's just about a block. And about can
mail. I I think it was coronation

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, and then I ran all the way back. I
wasn't sure what to do. I was

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thinking about how we nurse um the
lamb and the little kids, you know, I

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was thinking about that. And then I I
went, um, as one of the lady and.

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She, she gave me the knife. And I
opened the can. And she asked me what it

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was for. I told him I wouldn't drink
it. I didn't tell her I had the baby

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because they would say, everybody will
gossip if a young girl has a baby

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in those days, they would say, she's
no good, she runs around, that's how

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she got pregnant, all this, you know,
so I don't want nobody to know.

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There was a man that had a little uh
church down in our area. So he comes

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into the city. He took us home. And it
was funny. I got out of the car and

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I was carrying a baby. And It was no
longer a 2 by 4. He was a real baby.

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And then they They blessed my, my daughter, and they put her in the cradle

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board. They left her arm hanging out
and she was all waving it.

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And my, my mom said. Well now this is
my baby. You go back to school. Go

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do what your father had asked of you
to do for yourself. So you can come

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back and raise these kids. Because my
mom was. My, my, my teacher, she

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taught me everything. I know she
would. Do better than what she taught me.

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You know, there are things she left
out. Maybe she learned more about

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that she would share with my daughter.
She said, I'm not gonna raise her.

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 I'm just taking care of her.

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So I did and I went back to school. It
was OK, and when he got to English

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, it got so difficult and. And I, I,
my professor told us that um we had

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to write an essay.

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And I knew what essay is from my point
of view, so I wrote it. And in

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front of everybody, she walked up to
me, she says, this is not how you do

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essay.

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And she was so upset with me. She
looked at me, she says, I don't think

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you belong in college.

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And everybody was quiet. I know
everybody was listening. It took me a

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while and I finally said, you know.

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You, you said that um I don't belong
here. As to what if? If it's you that

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don't belong in here. If you think
that I don't understand whose fault is

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it? I said, you're the teacher. Maybe
you need to do some more research

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and teach me how to do the essay the
way you like it. The way you want my

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Navajo words to be turned around. And
then After a while when I come home

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, she's my little girl started test
tell I'm saying. My sister to me.

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And

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That kind of um. Put a confusion in
my, in my heart and.

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And I, I, I didn't say what or
anything. I just talked with her, told her

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what she wanted to know. And took a
while and, and one day we're sitting

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together and she looked at me and she
said, is it true? She said, Yolanda

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, is it true you're my mother?

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She was about 4.

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But I

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But I had my little girl. And that's
that's how I look at it. I always say

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I was brought up in a very healthy
environment. There was no drugs, no

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alcohol. No hitting, no spanking, no
yelling, nothing. That's how I raised

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my family. I taught them everything I
do.