This is Boris Solis interviewing Anna Fox on June 24, 2015 at 2:36 for
the Creative Push project. OK. So if you could maybe um take us back to
the time around the pregnancy that you want to first talk about, was there
anything in your case there is, but if there's anything that could situate
us a memorable event or a celestial thing happening,
uh, well, that night was the night of the full moon, and that would be
April. 28 2013
and. That would have put me 5 weeks early, which you typically aren't
allowed to have a 5 week birth that and you can go 6 or um. Sorry, you can
go to 37 weeks, but 36 weeks is not. Like It's not a good thing they don't
like it, but I was refusing to go to the hospital. And um it's been a busy
day. I was at my mom's helping her with her house. My sister was painting
her mom's house and when I saw the the super moon on my way home and I
thought, oh boy, get ready because it could happen tonight. I tend to go
on full moons. They have a really big pool on my body, seeing as we're
made up of mostly water and liquids, and I'm very much in tune with my
sister moon that.
I go on full moons. So at this point, you had a birth plans in place. I
had changed 3 weeks earlier to have a home birth and thank God because I
didn't. I wasn't ready to have another hospital experience. I was ready
for a home birth, and little did I know I was going to have her in less
than 40 minutes, which wouldn't have been enough time to get a sitter at
my house, let alone make it to the hospital. My midwife, um, I called her
at 4 a.m. and I said, I think I just peed all over the floor. I don't know
what happened. Can you just come check me out? I feel fine. And then I
stood up from cleaning and it happened again and I thought, OK, maybe this
isn't pee because it was so different from my other births. My second, my
water didn't break until I was pushing and it just sprayed my husband and
my midwife Line and my first one, my water broke at 36 or 34 weeks, and it
was just like a trickle. So I didn't, I didn't know what was happening
because it was totally different. And um. As soon as I got off the phone
with her, I went into labor like full on this is really happening and
within minutes she was already engaged and I I was laying on my bed on my
left side, crossing my ankles thinking I can't have this baby without my
midwife because I wasn't ready for an unassisted birth, although this
entire pregnancy, my husband had me doing research on unassisted births.
Which wasn't something that I wanted to do.
Yeah. Because he thought we could do it ourselves. He thought, this is
your 3rd baby, you know, like you can totally do this. Don't, you know,
don't think that you can't. And we had been watching all these videos on
unassisted births, and there's this one in the Amazon. This lady gives
birth in a river by herself on film. I'm like, that's not me. I may want
unmedicated, unmedical, totally, you know, hippie. Let me do this with all
my girlfriends and my family and my babies, but I'm not going to do it out
in the Amazon, you know. So for a while? Yes, I have, I have preterm labor.
With every single baby starting, um, it gets earlier and earlier, hers,
it started at 27 weeks. I started being put on bed rest and giving
tinctures like cramped bark and black haw and you know, no vacuuming your
floors, no doing your laundry. I had to depend on lots of people in my
life, which was difficult. So I, I would say I was in labor probably
longer than most women just because I worked to keep my babies in and she
was still born at 335 weeks. Um, they
It's, it's too early. I don't want to do that anymore and and I got to
keep this one full term, so. So, um, OK, so you were experiencing
contractions, but you thought it was preterm labor. I, yeah, I, and I, I
had Jeffrey go down and get me like a 1/4 cup of red wine and put my
current bark in there and I'm like, well, let's try to stop these. But, I
mean, she was coming and there was no stopping. My student midwife, Jamie
got there within 20 minutes of me calling, but she kind of did her own
thing in the corner was just kind of setting up. For the labor or the
delivery and I don't remember her being present during my birth. My two
year old at the time, Faith had gotten up and typically comes to bed at
some wee hours in the morning and so she was in bed with me and I couldn't
handle her touching me anymore. I'm like, you just can't I I'll cuddle,
but I can't be touched because it was, it was so intense and I I was
telling them like, OK, I have to poop. I really have to poop like this is.
This has to happen and I'm so afraid I'm gonna poop my baby into the
toilet, but I have to go and eventually I just kept sitting on the toilet
and going back to bed and it it really it felt like a long period of time
, but it was literally 40 minutes from the time that my water broke until
she delivered and eventually I got off the toilet and I'm like, just give
me a towel on the floor because this baby is coming.
My husband is like behind me with his hands under me. My 2 year old is in
front of me, you know, rubbing my shoulders because she can see how upset
mommy is, and I'm telling Jeffrey like the baby's head is right here, and
he's like, no, it's not, it's just poop, and he holds a poop in his.
It's a horrible story.
It's I'm like, no, really, it's a baby head. And of course, like the
toilets right there. I know this is really.
And out pops Hope's little head, and then, you know, once the head comes
out, it's super easy. it doesn't even really faze me going to sleep. I
mean, there's some sounds that I'm, I'm everybody's got to make a noise to
get the baby out, but it was, it was so easy. And then she just, she just
came right out and he caught her and handed her to me and here's little
Faith standing in front of me and as soon as as soon as this baby came
into her view, she was just so delighted and she went oh. And couldn't
believe that there was a baby inside me because she's my nurturer. She's
my Aries and my lover, and she loved that baby.
No, that was the student. The midwife showed up 10 minutes later and my
mom showed up right about the same time and everybody had missed it. We
did it because I mean the student midwife just kind of let us do our own
thing. She went and got me some towels as soon as hope had been delivered
, but I mean we did this. What felt like alone, you know, I wasn't
thinking about them anyways because I wasn't, I couldn't keep her in. She
was engaged within minutes of me getting off the phone with my midwife and
I didn't call her back because I didn't, I couldn't concentrate on calling
her back. I had to focus, you know, because it's the most real moments of
your life to feel all of that.
You know, it is the most present you will ever be ever.
So can you describe, um, uh, so let's see you.
Hadn't you started having your contractions, but they were still were they
building an intensity, they were like 3 minutes apart and Then they never
got any closer until like I'm delivering a baby. They just got stronger
and and to me like contractions, they feel like your worst period you've
ever had. But they, they don't last that long. They just get stronger and
stronger, and I read a lot of IMA. Gaskin before I had her and so I really
was visualizing these beautiful waves instead of thinking, oh, here's
another contraction, you know, I just breathe and go inward and relax to
the point where there's nothing tense throughout my body. I'm completely
relaxed and open and.
It goes really fast. I've squatted my birth previously during those
contractions, and I had my second one within 3 hours of my of going into
labor, so it wasn't, it wasn't terribly long, you know, for a second birth
3 hours isn't that bad. Wow, no. That's incredible that you have such
control over being able to relax into those. It is the only time that I am
OK with pain is labor, because otherwise I am the biggest wuss when it
comes to pain of any sort, like, no, but labor, I can do that. Labor is
good. Labor is it's just the best experience. I, I. I get a little bit
afraid of the pain thinking, you know, the months before I'm like, oh my
God, I'm gonna have to do this, but once I get there I'm like, Oh this
feels so good to get this ginormous person out of my body. You know, I
don't have to feel that because I'm not the best pregnant girl. I complain
and I really make my midwives work for their money. You know, they have to
keep me pregnant longer cause.
My body doesn't want to keep them and I'm, I'm not quite sure why I have
had preterm labor with every single child, but I have. And all the
children were healthy they didn't need to go into. Everybody was really
really really healthy, but I mean we have a whole food diet and I don't
take any prescriptions and I'm just a really mentally positive person and
I think that may have something to do with the fact that my children will
come out really healthy. Sure. For being preterm. Yeah, your health is
their health. um, OK, so let's go back to the, the, after the baby was
born, what then? So Shell gets there and she's like, What? You have this
baby? Because I had told her, take your time, get some coffee. This baby's
not coming. I'm not going to be in labor, and obviously I was. And the
midwives, when they do this the They look over the baby after they're born.
It is the most detailed.
Look over forever like no doctor has ever looked at my babies and taken
the time to, you know, check their reflexes the way that she does.
It's really beautiful and magical, and Shell's hands are amazing to me.
She has these um scorpions on her top of her hands and to have shells
pictures with her hands on my babies. I it's really special.
So did you keep the umbilical cord intact? I did. They did a beautiful
artwork for me of my placenta and her umbilical cord coming down into a
shape of a little heart. And I also did a belly casting this time with
this baby. It's um Half of my body from my neck all the way down below my
butt and my hands on my belly. It's really beautiful. My girlfriend Sarah
, who's an artist, is painting it in some type of celestial looking
because you know I, I have full moon babies. I need the universe and
whatever art that she's putting on there because I really feel that my
children are traveling the stars during my pregnancy and. You know, they
want to be here at Earth and the stars keep pulling them back, you know,
stay with us longer.
It's interesting. So, um, so immediately you went on the bed or something
and they put the baby. No, I sat on the floor for a good 20-30 minutes,
you know, waiting for the placenta to not only come out but the cord to
stop pulsing and really to see that the blood had gotten all to the baby.
And then I actually cut the cord on this one and that was interesting
because it was really like. You have to cut really hard and makes this
loud crunching sound, you know, it wasn't what I was expecting because I
never cut a cord before. It was always Jeffrey's job, but you really have
to have some strength to cut a cord. I can't imagine animals having to
chew. It was tough. Uh, I didn't save her placenta or eat it this one. I
donated it to my midwives who were doing a placenta encapsulating class,
and I said just use mine for that. I'll take mine next time.
So they encapsulate the placenta and then give you it in pill form. Yeah,
actually my girlfriend is gonna make chocolate out of mine. Chocolate bars
, the placenta chocolate bars, and it's supposed to help, you know, during
PMS and especially for the, the baby when they reach puberty as well
because it lasts forever. Yes, it can help them with their PMS because it
was her placenta. So it's in my freezer, it's dehydrated.
It's fascinating. OK, so then, um Did the baby nurse immediately? No. Hope
had a little bit of a problem noticing she had a good lip tie, and being 5
weeks premature was difficult. She um she tried to use the nipple shield
for a little while. Uh, she had the worst colic and we just had a really
hard time bonding in the beginning. I mean, she's definitely my baby and
she's still nursing now, so obviously we got that down, but it was, it was
tricky. It took us a good 3 weeks to get a really good latch and for her
to really understand what we were trying to do because she was so she was
too early. So we were supplementing, yeah, wow, no, I just kept working on
it, no. That can be kind of emotionally difficult, I imagine.
The colic was probably more emotionally. You know, upsetting them anything
, having your baby cry, and that started by the time she was about 3 weeks.
So by the time we got the nursing down, the colic kicked in and that was
awful. 8 hours of crying a day.
Unbelievable.
Wow. So, OK, so should we move on to the next story? This one's, this
one's a lot more peaceful. So Destiny's pregnancy, I started preterm labor
at 21 weeks. I was sick for 14 weeks. During my first trimester, vomiting
every single day, multiple times a day, all I could do was sleep like that
was the oh my gosh and they all my kids were planned. I wanted a baby.
Apparently my husband had been trying to get me pregnant for months, but
I am so powerful that that won't happen unless I choose it to happen. So
whenever I want a baby is when we get pregnant.
And I wanted Destiny so badly. I was ready. I've made my period come back
. I took Chase Tree. I took um Royal jelly, which is what they give to the
bees and the queen bee to make her be able to have as many children as she
has and to be healthy, and I, I wanted this baby and so I got pregnant. 14
weeks of vomiting. I'd never experienced that. I typically have up until
like 7 weeks is when it starts and it only lasts 1 or 2 weeks, but 14
weeks was heavy, and I gained 10 pounds, which I thought was really cruel
to me to like not be eating anything and then to be gaining weight. It's
awful. 10 pounds is nothing though. It is something when you typically
lose 8 pounds and instead you're gaining 10. Like that wasn't very nice.
So, uh, I did everything I could to help myself not be nauseated. I mean
all these essential sprays, essential oil sprays, and like just nothing
worked, no ginger candy, nothing. I just had to get through it and. Uh, we
went on vacation in September and the week that we left, I was driving and
that really helped, just to concentrate on something else. And I only had
like a few bouts of nausea since then. And by the time we got back,
preterm labor started and I was off and on bed rest, drinking. Uh,
Blackhawk tea and taking cramp our tinctures, and this time we added false
unicorn to it and another one, but I can't remember the other one. I had
like 4 tinctures that I was taking on a daily basis and My midwife had me
trying hard cider, hard apple cider. It is about the same alcohol content
as kombucha which I drank daily, so I didn't mind having that and it was
really tasty, but for some reason it really did help slow down the labor
and I took Epsom salt baths with uh baking soda every single night for 20
minutes because the magnesium helps to slow that down as well. And then
also I took a lot of Nature's Calm, which is a magnesium supplements along
with calcium lactate to to not only help you stay regular during pregnancy
, but it really does help with preterm labor. It makes you nauseated, but
at least your labor stops. And
it wasn't too long after Christmas that so again on bed rest, off bed rest
, don't clean your floors, clean the floors, like. You know, my house
doesn't look like a mother lived in it for a while, but that's OK.
And 6 weeks before she came, I had um my girlfriends did something called
Seven Sisters where once a day I would have one of my girlfriends show up
with either food or they'd come and clean my house and we were packing to
move at the same time, which is awful to be that pregnant and packing and
moving. And so it was really nice having someone there to help me. That
really made it good. But by the time I hit 37 weeks, it seems like labor
kind of shut off for me, and I don't know if it was because I mentally
reached full term, so I wasn't freaking out about it because there were a
couple times that my midwives came to pick me up to take me to OB triage
because I was in labor, but I'd get to the hospital, go through the
hospital doors, and they would stop. I'm like, I'm so sorry to make you
come and get me at 11 o'clock at night because I'm in labor for it to stop
as soon as we get to the hospital. And we even got pulled over one time,
and I thought I was transitioning, and my midwife yells, Yell louder, so
that the cop would let us go.
Make more noise. And I'm like, I'm in labor. How much more noise do you
want me to make? But still, we get to the hospital and they stop. I was I
was dilated like for no, we didn't get a ticket from the cop. He's like,
Well, you better slow down. And she's like, you know, you could have birth
in my car if you wanted to. That'd be OK. That'd be the first. It'd be
really exciting. I'm like, well, we'd make news, you know. But it didn't
happen because every time we get to the hospital, my labor would stop,
which is fine because she wasn't meant to be born there. So you weren't
dating I was, I was a little over 4 centimeters and apparently effacing
doesn't matter, but I'm pretty sure that I was almost as effaced as you
could get. So, so then the prela stopped. And then, um, You know there was
a point where you continue to take it easy. And no, and then we moved to
my mother's house because our home wasn't done being remodeled and it
wasn't even move in bowl until like 3 weeks after Destiny was born. So we
get to my mom's house and I really wasn't having any types of labor issues.
And mind you, my mom's house is like 40 minutes away from my midwife
because she's way west and I'm kind of located off of I-17 in the 101. So
that was a little bit of a concern, like is my midwife gonna make it to
this one? I was closer to the student midwife. She was like 10 minutes
away, so that was good. And I'd made it all the way to 39 weeks was when
Destiny was born. I was nursing Hope in the bed on the floor, and I heard
and I felt this super loud pop, and I thought, oh my God, I just ruined my
mother's futons.
And I felt really bad because, you know, there's typically blood but there
apparently there wasn't. Um, and I text my midwife and I text my mom and I
said, my water just broke, you should probably head over. So they both
literally flew, ran red lights, and my mom was driving the company. Which
I probably shouldn't, you can edit that out.
And they all made it within 5 minutes of me labor, which really it feels
like a really long time. And I labored in my mom's kitchen because I
didn't want to labor on the floor and mess up her carpet. So I made a
little nest on the kitchen floor where the counter and I could reach up
and kind of like hang on to the counter and all my girls were there except
for Hope because she was still asleep. And Grace is 6 and Faith is 4, and
Faith was very much into it just as much as she was in hopes. And Grace
wasn't. She kept running to the window to see who else was there and
making lots of loud noises, which was really distracting. And at one point
I had to go, you have to leave or you have to be quiet because I have to
concentrate and you were breaking my concentration. It is important that I
make the noise. that I'm making so I can get this baby out. This is how
you have babies. Mommies make loud sounds, you know, they're kind of
animal sounds, but that's what brings the baby out. And she was definitely
stressed out by the labor. She wasn't going to watch. She said, I'll be
here, but I'm not going to watch anymore. OK, that's fine.
And during one point of the labor, everybody had got there and I'm still
talking when the contractions because I still have a break between my
contractions even though labor is in there, not until like I'm pushing the
baby out, can I not talk. And um it was just really enjoyable to have my
midwives there for this one. And I remember pulling onto the countertop
and. And I'm pushing, pushing, pushing, and I thought, OK, I have, I have
to pause for a minute because I could feel my cervix wasn't open and so I
reached down and I felt, I felt her head and this pause was an amazing
pause. It was like. It was like being connected to every other mother
birthing. Um, the universe, I could just feel myself opening and
connecting and feeling her, and it was so. Just real, just so real. And
then I thought, OK, we're ready. I felt two little clicks, and I opened up
the rest of the way and pushed her head out, and the cord was wrapped
around her neck, so they removed that. And then I pushed her out the rest
of the way and immediately put her on my chest, and she put her face to my
boob and started nursing like within seconds of being born and Jeffrey was
right there. He'd been filming the whole thing, but as soon as she came
out, he came and sat right next to me and it was really beautiful, really
, really beautiful. And then my birth photographer showed up.
I got a lot of really great pictures of the afterbirth.
And I didn't bleed at all. There was no bleeding, uh, for about a half
hour, maybe an hour, and she said, this is, you know, this is really weird
that you're not bleeding. Um, but I had such a toned uh uterus
because I guess for having 4 babies and then Uh, all the pictures that I
was taking, helping, keeping her in there, and, and two, the mommy tribe
that I'm a part of, they were all visualizing for the longest time,
keeping my cervix closed with me, and I think that collective thought
really helped me make it to 39 weeks in a couple days. And Destiny was
born just a few hours before the blood moon. My water broke at like 8:12
and I had her at 8:52.
And it was a full moon. I kept having to to stay out of the moon's light
in the evenings cause it would cause me to go into labor, and I, I wanted
to wait to either Easter Sunday, or the blood moon, and I could no longer
escape her light, apparently cause my water broke. Can you elaborate on
what a blood moon is, yeah, can I have a tissue, please?
Thank you.
All right, a big edit coming up.
Oh.
It's like she's so squishy dolls. It's like when they make a doll. Oh, she
does look like a little porcelain doll.
She's a perfect baby, I'd have to say. Um. OK, so. The blood moon is an
eclipse moon, where the the sun comes in, or the earth comes in between
the moon and the sun, and it turns blood red, and that started at about 3
a.m. And I had her not long before that we were awake, so we went out and
sat under the blood moon for a little while and just felt it. I had a
shaman, um, who's an American Indian and Native American, I guess, and he
was planning on coming to my birth and delivering her, but he had a pow
wow that night. Like, what else would an Indian be doing in her blood.
So they were saying prayers for destiny under the moon, which was really,
really beautiful. Yeah, that's a really beautiful story. Yeah, I'm really
glad we captured that. Can you talk about the process after she was born
then with this? Oh, so having multiple children and having a baby means
that you don't get to stay in bed and really have any recoup, which is
fine because I literally have coffee flowing through my veins at all times
, so I can communicate to my children. I had help for about 2 days and
then my mom had to go back to work and then my 7 sisters uh came over.
Pretty good, you know, for about a week and that was really nice, but for
the most part I had 4 children to myself, but it gets easier the more you
have, because they really do play with each other, keep each other
occupied. My 6 year old can get snacks out, you know, drinks for people.
I'm not gonna go and lay down and take a nap and let them, you know, just
be to themselves. But it, it is a lot easier. I think that 22 was scary,
but 4 was 4 was OK. Yeah. So Destiny doesn't have, didn't have colic or.
No, she, no colic at all with Destiny and she was my first full term baby
and my first baby not to have colic, and that was phenomenal to not have a
baby who cried. Within the first week she was putting herself to sleep,
sleeping all night long. She now sleeps and has been for about a couple
months. From like 9 o'clock at night is when she really goes to deep sleep
, and she'll sleep until after 90 in the morning. Waking up maybe once or
twice, she is the easiest. Baby, I really visualized her this way during
this pregnancy. I visualized her, her dark hair, which my other girls do
not have this dark of hair, but I saw her as a dark haired, chubby cheeked
baby. I visualized her being really calm, really peaceful and easy because
my last was a Taurus and she.
Well, she was birth control for a long time. Like she just didn't want
anybody else coming into this family and you know she's not difficult, but
she is very, she's really strong and she's going to be the president
someday, which is totally fine with me. But I needed an easy baby, and I
didn't visualize hoping an easy baby. You know, it was a really big
transition in our life as well we were moving during her birth or her
pregnancy, and I didn't know that you could visualize your babies into
being perfect. And so I did, and this is what I got, you know, I created
this. I'd say she really is. She looks perfect, I mean. But mostly have to
worry about them, don't they? She's really cute. She's been talking since
about 6 weeks and communicating and smiling, and she just laughed the
other night and I thought, wow, you know, like you are really here. You're
more here than my other girls were, and uh she's very vocal. She's amazing
, she's snoring a little bit.
So let's see, we solve my questions. Oh, we didn't talk about weight gain.
No, how was that? So with every baby, I have gained 60 pounds. I kid you
not. 60 pounds. So after my first, I only lost 40. And so I still had that
extra 20. So when I gained 60 pounds the next time, I had to lose that
much more, and I did. I worked my butt off and I got down to like 118
pounds and I thought, this is awesome, and I got pregnant again. As soon
as I got down there, I got pregnant. And with the hope, I, I don't think I
lost all of her weight before I got pregnant with Destiny cause my arms
are still a little bit chubby. I didn't gain a full 60 this time. I think
I gained more like 52, and it goes off pretty easy because I'm on my feet
a lot and I'm nursing too. So I'm burning an extra amount of calories,
which is nice. I just need to throw some cardio in there.
How do you feel about your pregnant body? I love my pregnant body. I think
it's really sexy. The pregnant shape, the fertility of it. I mean, it's
just beautiful and. Strangely enough, like men are really attracted to the
pregnant body. I had strangers on a regular basis, like hitting on me big
time. I thought, this is so weird. What's up with these guys? Obviously
I'm in a relationship. I am pregnant, and here You are, you know, telling
me that you think I'm super sexy. Like, who comes up to a pregnant woman?
Do I put off those energies? Like what is it about me that you think you
can come up and tell me that? You know I'm friendly, but still, like you
don't
Did you feel sexual during your pregnancy? I can't have a lot of sex
because of the pre-term thing. And so we go forever without it. Like he
can have whatever he wants, pretty much whatever I can do for him, or he'd
do for himself, which I make body butter and I had. I had made a bomb, and
it really is the balm, but you don't have to reapply it like once and
you're good to go. So I made him his own little there you go.
He's like, you know, you're pregnant and tired and I did not I did not
feel like having sex when I was pregnant. I'd like to, but it just wasn't
possible. And Jeffrey's really sexual, like it's exhausting. Um,
I hate it. I couldn't wrap my head. I had problems during the first couple
ones of like, I hate this weight that I am gaining. I'm just, I can't
stand this. And by this one I thought, you know, I'm not going to do that
to myself. That's really negative. I've come so far emotionally to a place
of peace and loving who I am that I decided I'm going to tell myself with
every pound that I gain, I love that weight because that weight is helping
me to have a healthy baby and round bottom girls make the best breast milk.
They really do. They make the kind that really help grow a baby's brain.
So, you know, I'm going to love my very round bottom and my my curvy
waistline and my extra little jiggly bits because I can't not anymore.
I've just come to that place where I'm good with this.
So yeah, I mean, first pregnancies are difficult with that image. But now
I really love it and I really love other pregnant bodies, and my
girlfriend Sarah, who does art, um, is doing, she has a picture of my
pregnant Volvo, and that's being painted. She's doing one in this
beautiful, it looks like a shell in the sea and the sunset, and then
another one is a black and white, um. And it's beautiful. I mean, it's,
it's really artistic. The lavia is all laid out nicely and apparently I
have the most feminine hohoo that you've ever seen. I love to see it. I
mean, the painting. I will send you a picture. I may post it on the
Facebook. I don't know. I'm probably gonna lose a lot of friends if I do
that, so I may not because I have a lot of conservative friends too, you
know, like certain people to see it. OK.
No, I'd love to see that, you know, and the connection between art and
storytelling too is very strong, so it'd be cool to see her work. And it's
my body and I don't want my girls growing up thinking that they can't love
who they are. I mean, I didn't even really. I grew up in a really
conservative home. I didn't even know what my clip was for until my late
twenties when Jeffrey explained to me like what this body part was, and my
little girls need to know about that special little spot. I mean, that's.
That's horrible to go through your whole life not knowing that you were
given this, this little thing for your pleasure alone. It's enjoyable.
Hello. Good morning.
You're just so tired
Yeah, OK, that's, that's OK. Which
She's so wobbly. She does have bad eyes. Did you see my um picture on
Facebook? That's, well, not that one, that one, but the little square one
with her picture in it like her in her eyeballs. She's, yeah, she looks
like the big bad wolf, you know, like better to see you with, my dear
looking at us like ubby's
OK. Oh my. It's amazing she can make your eyeballs look as big as they do.
You just have a very expressive face.
She doesn't look like any of my other kids. She looks like my Italian side
of the family, and when I was 3 months pregnant, we were having a family
reunion, and she imprinted with them when we were out there with that
aside, because none of my other girls are all very blonde. You know, big
blue eyes like she has, but she looks different. So she's like my mom's
brother. Which is fine, that's good. We plan on having one more and so.
I'm hoping.
Hoping our next one will look like her. Think of his chin. Like it's like
a little grape. It's like a little fat deposit right there. I see their
face. It's like the most expressive baby face I've ever seen. Like she's
so judgmental.
Judgment from a baby.
It's gonna take years of Botox to get that forehead run out.
Oh, look at that forehead. Smile Oh, so cute.
All right, so I guess the only thing I would ask you is, we've been, um,
To asking women because we were separating these things. To, um, to try to.
Sum up or encapsulate their experience with like a word or a phrase of
words.
Well, work
I work to keep my babies pregnant and it is not easy to be put on bed rest.
That is horrible because I'm I'm a Virgo. I like my house clean.
Everything has a place and I cannot do that, you know, and Jeffrey's like
, quit vacuuming the floors. I'm like, well, you're not going to do it,
you know. He just thinks it's busy work, but I like clean floors. Yeah I'm
sure he appreciates that. I can't say that pregnancy to me is like, oh, so
euphoric. Labor is euphoric to me. I am high for months after giving birth
and I felt this way after every labor. It's like sunshine has been
literally poured in through me, and I not only love everybody in this
universe, but whatever universe is out there, I have enough love for all
of them too. And it's it's really like joy, so much joy, like crazy shaman
guru, like, oh, you know, I just want to own with everybody.
Yeah, I love labor. It's crazy. It's my favorite part, and I look forward
to doing it.
Done. That's perfect. Are you going to have more kids? Yes. My pendulum
told me. That I am to have a get pregnant this summer, which is really
crazy because I've already started ovulating. I ovulated with the full
moon, which was a surprise because we had sex the night before, like crazy
good, passionate, like, yes, we finally connected, you know, and I
ovulated the next morning. I did not get pregnant, which is a big surprise
, um, but I'm supposed to be pregnant with a boy. His name will be Maximus
Eros. The son of Venus, so he will be Maximus love. Cupid is who Eros is
and so who doesn't need more love in their life? That's amazing. So do you
have all girls? So far? Yeah, 4 girls. And I get that a lot. Like, wow.
But with like this crazy look on their face, like why did you ask for that
? And I always say like, oh, I had the jackpot, you know, like it's not a
bad thing. People are so afraid of lots of children and children are
awesome. They're fun and they make you laugh.
I just love.
My mother had um, she has 5 sisters, so there were 6 girls altogether. 6
girls. It's amazing that you can get so much of the same sex.
I have a girlfriend that has 5 girls. It's unusual actually that you would.