WEBVTT 00:00:00.839 --> 00:00:08.085 This is Bos Solis interviewing Amatullah Abdul-Jabbar on August 14th at 00:00:08.118 --> 00:00:14.945 8:20. OK. So if you could maybe take me back to the time of your pregnancy 00:00:14.978 --> 00:00:19.567 and conception, if there was anything memorable in terms of the 00:00:19.600 --> 00:00:23.967 environment, you know, was it like hot summer or was there any events just 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:32.000 to kind of place us in time? No, well, it wasn't planned. And I knew. When 00:00:32.168 --> 00:00:36.957 I got pregnant. Because I had a premonition of it, so I told my girlfriend 00:00:36.990 --> 00:00:40.315 who I was staying with at the time I was married, and she, she was nice 00:00:40.348 --> 00:00:43.277 enough to let me stay with her until we got our apartment, got ready, my 00:00:43.310 --> 00:00:47.536 husband and I, and she said, you pregnant? I'm like, Oh yeah, I'm pregnant. 00:00:47.569 --> 00:00:52.057 And she's like, Really? And I'm like, yeah. And she goes. She goes, so 00:00:52.090 --> 00:00:55.335 you know you're pregnant. I'm like, yeah, I know I'm having a little boy. 00:00:55.368 --> 00:00:58.135 I said, he's gonna have a mole just like mine on my chin, only on the 00:00:58.168 --> 00:01:03.487 opposite side. I had a premonition of it. Sure enough. His father had 00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:08.286 morning sickness. I didn't. I was losing weight. He was getting sick. So 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:14.087 his friend at work, because he was a DJ at WGCL radio at the time. So his 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:16.727 friend said, well, maybe you need to go take your wife to see if she's 00:01:16.760 --> 00:01:20.467 pregnant cause man, you're sick. He couldn't stand the smell of food or 00:01:20.500 --> 00:01:25.117 anything. So for the 1st 6 months he had morning sickness. Went to the 00:01:25.150 --> 00:01:29.837 doctor, sure enough, I was pregnant. Last 6 months, I had morning, evening 00:01:29.870 --> 00:01:35.665 , afternoon, snack time, break time, sickness. I was just sick. 00:01:35.698 --> 00:01:40.227 All day long, 24 hours a day. So I was losing weight. I wasn't gaining 00:01:40.260 --> 00:01:46.516 weight, I was losing weight. So the, my obstetrician got Kind of worried 00:01:46.549 --> 00:01:48.915 he's like, well, if you don't start gaining weight, then you're gonna have 00:01:48.948 --> 00:01:51.956 to, we'll have to put you in a hospital. But at the same time, I was also 00:01:51.989 --> 00:01:57.076 a female power lifter, so I continued to work out. So I had to stop 00:01:57.109 --> 00:02:00.926 working out and I had to stop competing. Because that was helping, that 00:02:00.959 --> 00:02:04.717 was making me lose weight too. So I had to stop doing that. But I did 00:02:04.750 --> 00:02:10.946 calisthenics, you know, squats around the house, clean, cook the majority 00:02:10.979 --> 00:02:14.745 of things. And of course, 00:02:14.778 --> 00:02:18.707 It was kind of weird because. 00:02:18.740 --> 00:02:22.975 I couldn't keep anything down. Nothing of the natural peppermint, the 00:02:23.008 --> 00:02:31.008 crackers, none of that was working. So yes, I had to puff on. A marijuana 00:02:31.460 --> 00:02:35.827 To make my appetite come up and also to keep the food down. So I did that 00:02:35.860 --> 00:02:40.196 once a day, but I got tired of that, so I didn't do that anyway. 00:02:40.229 --> 00:02:43.656 And he, my son was supposed to come November, no, he's supposed to come 00:02:43.689 --> 00:02:49.207 December 24th. But he came November 3rd. 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:53.946 So when I went into the hospital, one of, I started having contractions, 00:02:53.979 --> 00:02:57.025 but I thought they were Braxton Hicks contractions, so I didn't pay it any 00:02:57.058 --> 00:03:00.616 attention. So I went over a friend's house and sat with her and did 00:03:00.649 --> 00:03:04.146 laundry and laughed and talked and then I went out to another friend's 00:03:04.179 --> 00:03:10.116 house and we played and talked and sat around and then my water broke. 00:03:10.149 --> 00:03:13.536 But I didn't have any contractions. My water broke, but then it was just 00:03:13.569 --> 00:03:19.386 like nothing. I mean, the pain just went away. So they were like, well 00:03:19.419 --> 00:03:22.305 your water just broke. Well you better go in the hospital. So I called my 00:03:22.338 --> 00:03:24.585 doctor first and he was like, well, yeah, cause you don't want to have a 00:03:24.618 --> 00:03:28.827 dry breath, you better come in. So I came in, he was like, so are you 00:03:28.860 --> 00:03:32.916 having any pain? I'm like, well, no. He goes, Well, you are in labor. And 00:03:32.949 --> 00:03:38.677 I'm like, I am. I'm like, cause it really don't feel like it. He goes, 00:03:38.710 --> 00:03:40.995 You're not having any cramping. I'm like, well, no, it's just like a 00:03:41.028 --> 00:03:44.876 little uncomfortable like, you know, I can't get a kink out of my back. He 00:03:44.909 --> 00:03:50.835 goes, No, you're in labor. So I'm like, OK, so we sat there and I sat 00:03:50.868 --> 00:03:58.196 there and I lay there and I laid there and about in the 30 hours, I'm like 00:03:58.229 --> 00:04:02.346 , well, is it my turn? cause I can hear all the other. Ladies, you know, 00:04:02.379 --> 00:04:06.255 screaming, crying out, going ballistic, and I could hear the doctor going 00:04:06.288 --> 00:04:10.346 , OK, it's time, push, you know, and I'm like, OK, so is it my turn? And 00:04:10.379 --> 00:04:13.386 my doctor was like, well, this is not about a term, you know, we have to 00:04:13.419 --> 00:04:17.757 wait on the baby to come. And I'm like, he goes, this is not a term. We 00:04:17.790 --> 00:04:22.116 don't just start at one end of the building and then work our way down. He 00:04:22.149 --> 00:04:25.955 goes, this, you know, we have to wait until the baby decide to come. He 00:04:25.988 --> 00:04:29.395 goes, Well, you don't have to get up on your right knee and leg because 00:04:29.428 --> 00:04:32.276 the baby's in distress, fetal distress and it's hard. So I'm sitting like 00:04:32.309 --> 00:04:38.947 , oh my goodness, this is getting ridiculous. So then. 00:04:38.980 --> 00:04:42.995 My son's father, he came up and he goes, well, I'm gonna go get some money 00:04:43.028 --> 00:04:49.026 and go buy some, you know, this, that and the other. 00:04:49.059 --> 00:04:55.176 There he is. He's the culprit. That's my little one right there. He's the 00:04:55.209 --> 00:04:57.245 one. 00:04:57.278 --> 00:05:05.026 OK, so. I'm like, well, no, it'll take some time. So after a while, my 00:05:05.059 --> 00:05:09.416 labor, it got real bad. I was in intensive labor. I was, I dilated like 8 00:05:09.449 --> 00:05:14.296 centimeters. They're like, oh yeah, you're doing good. Then it stopped. No 00:05:14.329 --> 00:05:19.265 , the baby just decided, no, I'm tired. He just decided, no, I'm tired. I 00:05:19.298 --> 00:05:23.145 don't, I don't wanna do this. I changed my mind. So then I had to have my 00:05:23.178 --> 00:05:27.106 labor induced, they induced it with Pitocin. It's like, no, we can't do, 00:05:27.139 --> 00:05:32.846 you know, you get this baby has got to come. So we're in the 35 hours now. 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:37.257 And the doctor was like, well, if you go past 35 hours, you'll be the 00:05:37.290 --> 00:05:42.416 record. You'll have the longest labor. So at 36.5 hours of labor, he 00:05:42.449 --> 00:05:46.406 finally decided to come. 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:51.406 So I his his father called back and goes, you ready to have the baby? I 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:54.286 said, yeah, I'm getting ready to have this baby now. And the doc and the 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:59.086 nurse was like, I don't know how you know that. And he goes, Oh, she must 00:05:59.119 --> 00:06:02.145 be right because the baby's crowning. And then the doctor was like, OK, 00:06:02.178 --> 00:06:06.245 now it's your turn. Now it's your turn. We, we can, we can take you in the 00:06:06.278 --> 00:06:11.166 delivery. It's your turn now. You can have the baby. So as the, as I was 00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:14.536 going into the delivery. His father come running down the hall and they 00:06:14.569 --> 00:06:16.455 said, here, you better put this on, you better put it on. You gotta hurry 00:06:16.488 --> 00:06:18.895 up because the baby is coming, the heads coming out. And the doctor was 00:06:18.928 --> 00:06:21.697 like, Well, don't push. I said, I'm not pushing. He goes, the baby's doing 00:06:21.730 --> 00:06:25.697 it. He goes, OK. And he said, Well, wait a minute. So yeah, he finally 00:06:25.730 --> 00:06:30.995 came out. And when he did, he didn't cry. He just got this mean look on 00:06:31.028 --> 00:06:34.426 his face and he just went. 00:06:34.459 --> 00:06:39.745 Like whatever that. 00:06:39.778 --> 00:06:43.856 And the doctor goes, so you wanna know what you're having? I said, I know 00:06:43.889 --> 00:06:47.096 I'm having a boy. I said, he's got a mole just like mine on the opposite 00:06:47.129 --> 00:06:51.736 side of his chin. And the doctor looked and went, wow. And then of course 00:06:51.769 --> 00:06:55.127 he had the hereditary that goes in our family. He had the extra fingers 00:06:55.160 --> 00:07:01.265 like I did. So I had one on each hand and so did he. 00:07:01.298 --> 00:07:06.887 You were the best storyteller. You were like a comedian. Hey, that's just 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:10.437 the way it happened. I have to be quiet when you're talking so that she 00:07:10.470 --> 00:07:14.437 doesn't edit out. It was like killing me, not laughing. So tell me about 00:07:14.470 --> 00:07:17.156 the premonition though. 00:07:17.189 --> 00:07:22.637 I don't know why. It just wasn't a dream or just a feeling. No, it was 00:07:22.670 --> 00:07:26.366 more like um. 00:07:26.399 --> 00:07:31.245 OK, every so often I have an out of body experience, OK, where I actually 00:07:31.278 --> 00:07:35.176 leak my soul leaves my body. And it was like that, but I only I was awake 00:07:35.209 --> 00:07:39.455 . I was in the kitchen washing dishes and I just had an auto part 00:07:39.488 --> 00:07:42.336 experience and I was sitting there looking at my baby and I'm like, oh wow 00:07:42.369 --> 00:07:48.616 , little baby boy. I'm like, oh, that's my little baby boy. And 00:07:48.649 --> 00:07:53.406 That's really cool. So your husband wasn't allowed in the room with you 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:59.846 when you were? Yeah, yeah, he came in, he cut the cord and 00:07:59.879 --> 00:08:07.879 Got all huffy. You know, with his chest poked out, but. Whatever, 00:08:09.220 --> 00:08:14.015 like he did all the work. 00:08:14.048 --> 00:08:17.776 That's great. I love that. That was wonderful. I'm trying to think if 00:08:17.809 --> 00:08:20.817 there's anything you left out. I mean, yours is like seamless. You should 00:08:20.850 --> 00:08:23.856 just tell stories for a living. 00:08:23.889 --> 00:08:29.455 OK, let's see. Well, OK, tell me more about um your feelings about being 00:08:29.488 --> 00:08:32.375 pregnant, you know, cause you said it wasn't planned, but then were you 00:08:32.408 --> 00:08:39.775 just like really excited or? Well, no, um, let me put it this way, I 00:08:39.808 --> 00:08:44.456 understand why. Women go through that emotional roller coaster when 00:08:44.489 --> 00:08:48.297 they're pregnant? Because the first thing you think of is there's 00:08:48.330 --> 00:08:52.167 something growing inside of me and moving, OK. So you don't want to have 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:56.206 that bad feeling. So that's the reason why I believe that, you know, they 00:08:56.239 --> 00:09:00.645 go through ups and downs emotions. And it was nice cause um while I was 00:09:00.678 --> 00:09:05.446 pregnant. His father and I would read health magazines to him, the 00:09:05.479 --> 00:09:09.427 newspaper. 00:09:09.460 --> 00:09:12.907 How babies develop, and that was kind of funny too because November the 00:09:12.940 --> 00:09:17.206 2nd. We were reading his father said, so if you want to come out and see 00:09:17.239 --> 00:09:21.037 us right now, you can't, we'll be, we can't wait, we and then November 3rd 00:09:21.070 --> 00:09:24.446 , I went into labor. 00:09:24.479 --> 00:09:27.407 You have a really cool, it's like you're in touch with the universe or 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:29.866 something. 00:09:29.899 --> 00:09:34.917 I feel so out of touch with the universe. 00:09:34.950 --> 00:09:39.125 So that's great. So then um 00:09:39.158 --> 00:09:42.986 he was he underweight or anything because he was he was, he was premature 00:09:43.019 --> 00:09:48.265 , but he was 5 pounds, 7 ounces. So you can take him right home? Well, no 00:09:48.298 --> 00:09:52.505 , because he was a little jaundiced and then the digestive system had 00:09:52.538 --> 00:09:57.287 developed, so he had to stay in until his and because of that, I had to go 00:09:57.320 --> 00:10:03.047 vegan, so I had to make his baby food. I could not buy gerbers or anything 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:08.576 like that. I had to put him on special um Similac. 00:10:08.609 --> 00:10:13.797 And When he was able to bring him home, I couldn't have carpet in the 00:10:13.830 --> 00:10:18.486 house. And the walls had to be washed every day with bleach and water and 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:21.836 sterile, yes. 00:10:21.869 --> 00:10:29.869 And so for the 1st 6 months of his life, he had to go to the hospital. 00:10:30.580 --> 00:10:33.746 Twice a week to have his blood checked to make sure he was getting healthy 00:10:33.779 --> 00:10:37.265 , to make sure everything was going OK. So I had to wrap him up like a 00:10:37.298 --> 00:10:41.186 mummy whenever I took him outside. 00:10:41.219 --> 00:10:49.219 Excuse me, that. It's easy my pleasure. I have one more note, OK. Um, So 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:53.885 that's fascinating. So was it just like his lungs or was he having 00:10:53.918 --> 00:10:59.467 allergies? No, he was what they call neutropenic. 00:10:59.500 --> 00:11:05.226 Which is a condition when you your body like gets some kind of bacterial 00:11:05.259 --> 00:11:11.625 cold and so your antibodies fight off the the strain bacteria. Well, when 00:11:11.658 --> 00:11:16.025 you're neutropenic, the red blood cells start to attack the other healthy 00:11:16.058 --> 00:11:22.976 red blood cells. And so then the doctors were his father, they did blood 00:11:23.009 --> 00:11:25.657 work on his father. They did blood work on me and they found out he got it 00:11:25.690 --> 00:11:30.446 from me because I am what they call cyclic neutropenic. 00:11:30.479 --> 00:11:36.446 Which means every cycle of this will happen if I get sick. 00:11:36.479 --> 00:11:41.206 That's interesting. Did you didn't know anything about that before. That's 00:11:41.239 --> 00:11:47.145 really interesting. So he gained weight and then just acclimated and got 00:11:47.178 --> 00:11:51.167 better, or? Yeah. Well, after a while, you know, his digestive system and 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:53.265 neutropenia, 00:11:53.298 --> 00:11:57.557 and his red blood cells started to pick up and get healthy, but then 00:11:57.590 --> 00:12:02.206 because of his digestive system was underdeveloped, he couldn't eat animal 00:12:02.239 --> 00:12:07.967 or anything from animal. So I had to learn how to be a vegan. 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:11.436 So up until he got in. 00:12:11.469 --> 00:12:17.706 Let's say 10th, 11th grade, yeah, he didn't eat meat, anything from meat. 00:12:17.739 --> 00:12:23.057 So has that changed then now he's he eats everything. Now he's just. Isn't 00:12:23.090 --> 00:12:29.307 it amazing how they can just grow into these healthy Yeah, now he eats 00:12:29.340 --> 00:12:36.956 everything. So, um, OK, so then that must have been, I mean, like a 00:12:36.989 --> 00:12:42.635 full-time job. Were you staying at home and just taking care of this. I 00:12:42.668 --> 00:12:47.436 was blessed enough to be a stay at home mom. I enjoyed it. And then 00:12:47.469 --> 00:12:53.625 because of that, I also homeschooled him. So I homeschooled him until he 00:12:53.658 --> 00:12:58.135 was going into like the 2nd grade. Then I put him in school, but then of 00:12:58.168 --> 00:13:01.736 course I started working evenings, but then I stayed home during the day 00:13:01.769 --> 00:13:05.576 because I was also a school mom cause I wanna make sure I checked on my 00:13:05.609 --> 00:13:11.456 son, so. Can you tell me more about the weight lifting? 00:13:11.489 --> 00:13:16.936 Oh, well, before. I got pregnant and I met his father. His father was an 00:13:16.969 --> 00:13:22.446 avid exercise enthusiast, so we would work out. So then we joined Bally's 00:13:22.479 --> 00:13:25.525 gym because we had all the equipment at home first. So then we decided 00:13:25.558 --> 00:13:29.917 we'd join Bally's gym. So I met a lady there who had weighed like over 00:13:29.950 --> 00:13:34.787 300+ pounds. And she had lost so much weight, you would never knew. You'd 00:13:34.820 --> 00:13:38.265 have never known she was that overweight. So she said, Well, we're, I'm 00:13:38.298 --> 00:13:41.826 competing amateur and I need a partner, you know, she said, well, she said 00:13:41.859 --> 00:13:45.625 , because you do good with your weights, with your legs, said, I'll do the 00:13:45.658 --> 00:13:48.346 upper because you could partner like that. She did the upper, I did the 00:13:48.379 --> 00:13:54.658 lower. So we partnered together and we, we won about like 4 championships. 00:13:54.700 --> 00:13:56.700 You know, that the last time I competed, I squatted, I believe it was 4:15. 00:14:01.570 --> 00:14:03.570 So, wow. So that's incredible. And then after you had your son, you didn't 00:14:07.908 --> 00:14:11.566 do that anymore, or, well, I didn't compete anymore because I couldn't 00:14:11.599 --> 00:14:16.765 compete anymore. You'd have to go pro, and I didn't want to go pro. cause 00:14:16.798 --> 00:14:20.645 I don't like the, I didn't like the pressure of the steroids and all of 00:14:20.678 --> 00:14:25.047 that, the coaches because they really do. They, you know, because it's a 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:28.765 lot of money involved. So no, I didn't want to do that so I just stopped 00:14:28.798 --> 00:14:32.446 competing amateur league cause amateur is all about health. You know, they 00:14:32.479 --> 00:14:35.336 want they have they watch your diet, they wanna know what you eat, then, 00:14:35.369 --> 00:14:39.287 you know, they check your body mass index, you know, they, it's, it has to 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:43.375 be all healthy when it's amateur. Then when Yeah, and you would think it'd 00:14:43.408 --> 00:14:48.686 be the other way around. And then when it's pro, it's just like. Because 00:14:48.719 --> 00:14:52.287 there's so much money that comes with it. Oh no. So I'm like, no, I didn't. 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:56.787 But I continue to work out. So I worked out with my son when he was 00:14:56.820 --> 00:15:01.547 little. I'd do squats with him, you know, benches. He'd be a weight. He 00:15:01.580 --> 00:15:05.385 used to enjoy that. And then when he got older, then he would exercise 00:15:05.418 --> 00:15:08.446 with us. We'd get up at 4 o'clock in the morning because we had a exercise 00:15:08.479 --> 00:15:11.217 , we had a weight room in the house, so we'd get up at 4 in the morning 00:15:11.250 --> 00:15:15.476 and we'd exercise for an hour, then we'd go jog. 00:15:15.509 --> 00:15:20.596 That's wonderful. Then we would have push-up competitions. 00:15:20.629 --> 00:15:25.557 At least they, you know, um, that there's such a thing as like mom arms 00:15:25.590 --> 00:15:28.596 because you're picking up your kids so much that you get these like really 00:15:28.629 --> 00:15:33.086 incredible arms. Oh yeah, but you gotta work on it after they get too 00:15:33.119 --> 00:15:38.145 heavy, then you have to start lifting weights again to keep it up. No, 00:15:38.178 --> 00:15:41.907 that's fascinating. Gosh, OK, let me look at my notes and see if there's 00:15:41.940 --> 00:15:47.456 anything else I forgot. Um, When you reflect back on the experience, did 00:15:47.489 --> 00:15:52.496 you feel, you know, what are your feelings? Were you, um, did you feel 00:15:52.529 --> 00:15:59.096 prepared? Were you surprised by your experiences or? 00:15:59.129 --> 00:16:03.057 Well, I was surprised I was pregnant considering I had 3 doctors that told 00:16:03.090 --> 00:16:07.525 me I would never get pregnant and I couldn't have any children. I want to 00:16:07.558 --> 00:16:11.927 go back and s. But 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:18.057 There's a lot of emotional heartbreak, you know, no, I was happy. 00:16:18.090 --> 00:16:21.135 So you want to sue him because then you didn't use protection when you got 00:16:21.168 --> 00:16:25.417 pregnant? Oh yeah, I, they told me no, you cannot have any children. You 00:16:25.450 --> 00:16:31.525 will not be able to get pregnant. I'm like, cool, yay, score one for me 00:16:31.558 --> 00:16:34.996 and. 00:16:35.029 --> 00:16:39.657 Then I got married and got pregnant and I was like, 00:16:39.690 --> 00:16:45.005 Oh, I'd assume. I ought to sue them. Do you know why they said that? Well 00:16:45.038 --> 00:16:51.037 , yeah, because I have, I was diagnosed with endometriosis and fibroids. 00:16:51.070 --> 00:16:56.196 Real bad. As a matter of fact, they said I should have had a hysterectomy. 00:16:56.229 --> 00:17:00.427 But I had one doctor was like, well, no, if you have at least one child. 00:17:00.460 --> 00:17:03.076 And they go, but you never know what the Lord has in store, but they go, 00:17:03.109 --> 00:17:05.666 but for right now, yeah, it looks like you'll never have any and I was 00:17:05.699 --> 00:17:10.545 happy with that. I'm like, shoot, yeah, hey, I don't have to worry about 00:17:10.578 --> 00:17:16.305 no kids. Yay, and you grew up in a big family, so you, you probably had 00:17:16.338 --> 00:17:19.835 your fellow kids. 00:17:19.868 --> 00:17:27.526 Oh yes. Oh yes. My, my other sisters don't know, honey, they know I I I 00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:31.766 made me sad enough, watched the diapers because that's one thing my mother 00:17:31.799 --> 00:17:34.847 did not believe in Pampers. 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:42.217 So it was cloth diapers. In which I had cloth used cloth diapers. No, no 00:17:42.250 --> 00:17:47.367 pans were allowed to be on her grandbabies. 00:17:47.400 --> 00:17:51.565 Whether she is around them or not, no Pampers were allowed to be on her 00:17:51.598 --> 00:17:55.766 grandbaby, and her grandbabies were not allowed to have diaper rash one. 00:17:55.799 --> 00:18:00.686 So it sounds like your son grew up in a really healthy environment. You 00:18:00.719 --> 00:18:04.226 took a lot of care, right, because when I would take him for his checkups 00:18:04.259 --> 00:18:08.246 , I'd be there with the diaper with the pins and the cloth diapers, and 00:18:08.279 --> 00:18:12.516 people would stand around and go. 00:18:12.549 --> 00:18:14.996 You know, I'd have ladies in there, elderly people that have their 00:18:15.029 --> 00:18:21.085 grandmas, well, baby, how old are you? And I'm like, well, I'm 28. 00:18:21.118 --> 00:18:25.186 And you believe in cloth diapers? I'm like, oh yes, my mother and my 00:18:25.219 --> 00:18:28.916 grandmother would kill me if I put some Pampers on my baby. I just raised 00:18:28.949 --> 00:18:32.147 with cloth diapers too. 00:18:32.180 --> 00:18:36.055 I, I didn't have the patience for that though. We did try it. We, we 00:18:36.088 --> 00:18:42.906 totally tried it. It didn't last long. Oh, it it did it. And I, but then I 00:18:42.939 --> 00:18:48.107 , and I like I because I believed in it, and then my what my grandmother, 00:18:48.140 --> 00:18:51.065 my mother, my great grandmother said was true because my son never had a 00:18:51.098 --> 00:18:56.387 diaper rash. See, because the Pampers and all of that, the chemical makeup 00:18:56.420 --> 00:19:01.867 and making those and when the baby, you know, excretes, it mixes and it 00:19:01.900 --> 00:19:06.186 can be irritant. And I see a lot of women go, oh well, it's not that wet, 00:19:06.219 --> 00:19:10.055 and I'm like, well, how wet does wet have to be before it's wet? I mean, 00:19:10.088 --> 00:19:14.166 if, if the pamper is wet, then it's time to change the baby, with me it's 00:19:14.199 --> 00:19:17.085 not that wet, but. 00:19:17.118 --> 00:19:20.627 I could never figure that out, so. 00:19:20.660 --> 00:19:25.726 Oh my goodness. This is a good way to end the day, I'll tell you. Um, OK, 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:30.617 is there anything else that we're forgetting, Ashley? I was just like the 00:19:30.650 --> 00:19:33.686 So OK, so 00:19:33.719 --> 00:19:38.686 we're um separating these birth stories into themes and so we're asking 00:19:38.719 --> 00:19:44.565 women to kind of think of a word or a phrasing of words that they think 00:19:44.598 --> 00:19:50.996 encapsulates their experience or you know, kind of, um, you know, 00:19:51.029 --> 00:19:53.897 describes that. 00:19:53.930 --> 00:19:58.016 Well, I tell you what, when they say, oh, after you had a baby, you don't 00:19:58.049 --> 00:20:01.377 , you know, you remember the baby but you forget all about the pain. No, 00:20:01.410 --> 00:20:08.127 to this day, I remember the pain, OK. Did, glad I only had one. Lord bless 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:13.496 me, gave me one. That's all I wanted. But I think, but see, what was some 00:20:13.529 --> 00:20:18.746 of this experience, uh. 00:20:18.779 --> 00:20:23.555 I would say um. Unexpected. 00:20:23.588 --> 00:20:25.627 Shop 00:20:25.660 --> 00:20:29.936 And funny. Yeah, you seem to have a good sense of humor about the whole 00:20:29.969 --> 00:20:37.367 thing. Yeah, that Cause my family was like, what? 00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:42.976 She's pregnant, cause they're like, not her. Honey, cause I didn't, oh 00:20:43.009 --> 00:20:48.565 honey, trust me, I didn't want it. I didn't. Not, I did not want a one. It 00:20:48.598 --> 00:20:53.565 sounds like he was also a lot of work for someone that didn't want. Oh, he 00:20:53.598 --> 00:20:59.436 was about the funniest thing is when Cause my mother always told us, you 00:20:59.469 --> 00:21:03.627 know, go to sleep when the baby sleeps, and you know, don't sleep while 00:21:03.660 --> 00:21:08.467 the baby's wake. And I've had, I watched all my sisters do it. They'd go 00:21:08.500 --> 00:21:12.906 to sleep, their baby awake, maybe would get up, tear up the house, tear 00:21:12.939 --> 00:21:17.526 over stuff, knock stuff down like my one nephew painted his mommy's face 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:24.637 with grease while she slept. She must have been tired. Yeah. The other one 00:21:24.670 --> 00:21:30.956 , put big sav all over her mother's face, so I'm like, oh, So I'm like, oh 00:21:30.989 --> 00:21:36.996 well, I'm not gonna do that. I am not gonna see well. He was turning one. 00:21:37.029 --> 00:21:40.555 So I made him a little Mickey Mouse cake. 00:21:40.588 --> 00:21:45.035 Had a little cute party for him, put him down in the crib. I'm cleaning up 00:21:45.068 --> 00:21:49.357 , fixing everything up. He's asleep. I'm like I'm gonna lay down across 00:21:49.390 --> 00:21:56.236 the sofa cause he's dead asleep. Well. I woke up to him, pat me on his 00:21:56.269 --> 00:22:02.107 face, on my face, hands covered in dirt cause I had a couple of plants. He 00:22:02.140 --> 00:22:09.137 was moaning. I had a glass table like this covered in chocolate cake. 00:22:09.170 --> 00:22:15.976 Chocolate cake all over the shag rug, mixed with dirt. He was crying, so 00:22:16.009 --> 00:22:19.776 I panicked. Now instead of people like, oh I have been yelling at my baby 00:22:19.809 --> 00:22:22.726 , I didn't yell at my baby because the first indicated in my mind is 00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:26.776 you're not supposed to go to sleep and let the baby beat you up. Just had 00:22:26.809 --> 00:22:32.016 to cover them in like um bells and then everything move about. So I 00:22:32.049 --> 00:22:34.467 immediately called. 00:22:34.500 --> 00:22:40.117 His pediatrician told me what to do. You know, to get him to set his 00:22:40.150 --> 00:22:45.795 stomach to settle, and he'll crap and he'll be OK and I wasn't sure if he 00:22:45.828 --> 00:22:51.575 ate the dirt. I wasn't sure if he just ate all the cake. And then played 00:22:51.608 --> 00:22:55.016 in the rest or played in the dirt and the cake and decide I'll eat a 00:22:55.049 --> 00:22:59.456 couple of, just combine them. I was just worried. The doctor told me, no, 00:22:59.489 --> 00:23:03.097 this is what you do and he, cause his, his doctor was really good. He gave 00:23:03.130 --> 00:23:07.976 me his home phone, pager, hospital phone, private phone cause he knew I 00:23:08.009 --> 00:23:13.137 was serious about my child. So he told me what to do and I watched. Of 00:23:13.170 --> 00:23:19.335 course he had a bowel movement, went to sleep. He was all good. I hollered. 00:23:19.368 --> 00:23:25.097 Once I got him settled and I knew he was OK, oh, I laughed. I hollered. I 00:23:25.130 --> 00:23:29.256 had tears coming out of my eyes because I just saw the house, cake and 00:23:29.289 --> 00:23:32.776 dirt everywhere. And the only thing I could do was laugh and people was 00:23:32.809 --> 00:23:37.416 like, you laughed at that? I'm like, yeah, cause it's my fault. Cause the 00:23:37.449 --> 00:23:39.936 first thing that came, I mean, it was just like the Lord said it real 00:23:39.969 --> 00:23:46.476 clear, you're not supposed to go to sleep and let the baby beat you up. 00:23:46.509 --> 00:23:51.887 So there I was cleaning up all that mess. Oh my goodness, it was a sight. 00:23:51.920 --> 00:23:55.565 I can only, I can actually perfectly imagine that because you're so good 00:23:55.598 --> 00:23:59.647 at describing that. Wow. 00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:04.857 Yeah, you're a born storyteller. That's wonderful. 00:24:04.890 --> 00:24:09.930 I think it's perfect. I think we're good. We'll end it there.