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 This is Ashley Ziekowski interviewing Tina Wright for the Creative Push

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project on July 24, 2015 at about 4:30
p.m. OK. Tina, so first you can

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start just telling us a little bit
about yourself and your family, like

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where you're from, and how many
siblings you have and how many kids you

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have and stuff like that. OK, um, I'm
from um around the Topeka, Kansas.

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Area, um, I'm a Kind of the middle
youngest girl, the middle. Um, sibling

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of 8 children. And I have 5 children
of my own.

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OK, um, so is there any one of the
five births that sticks out as being

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much different from the others?
Sometimes for women who have multiple

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multiple children, it's like the first
birth because they really had no

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idea what they were expecting, um, or,
you know, maybe it's the last one

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or or one in between where like you
thought you knew what you were

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expecting, but it turned out to be
something totally different. Yeah, well

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, they're all individualized, but
probably, uh, my first one is um. The

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most That stands out. Just because
it's my first and I didn't know what to

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expect.

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So, so maybe you can take us back to
um the time that time um and when

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take us back to the time of the
pregnancy, and maybe when you first

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learned you were pregnant, um you can
also tell us a little bit about, I

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know a little bit more about it so you
can tell us about your age and your

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situation a little bit, um, and maybe
kind of like the year that it was

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like the decade, or you know. OK,
well. Um, I actually. didn't realize I

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was pregnant until I was probably. 3
or 4 months I was 16 when I got

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pregnant. And, um, so I really didn't
know a whole lot about. The

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different things that you go through
when you're pregnant, so, um,

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How did you find out? What was the
first indication that you were like, I

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might be pregnant.

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Well, my sister was going through a
pregnancy, so I kind of saw her

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symptoms and um so I just kind of
thought, oh well, I might be pregnant.

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So that was kind of my first initial.

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Um, noticing or so. When I first found
out that I was pregnant back then,

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they didn't have any like home tests
or anything like that, so you had to

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go to the doctor and uh get a blood
test done. So that's what I did and

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found out I was pregnant. Um, I was
staying with my mom and two other

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siblings. And then my sister was
pregnant also and she was.

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17 And So

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We just, I just stayed with them. And
uh It's my regular.

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Just went to like regular doctor's
appointments and stuff so. It was a

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Kind of uh.

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And experience for.

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For a young person to not really know
what's going on. Um, inside their

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bodies and stuff, and back then we
didn't have computers to look stuff up

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, so it was really. A process of
learning from. Another mom. or sister or

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your your own mom or aunts, um, so
pretty much it's, it was just Um, If

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you ever felt like, is this what's
supposed to be happening, you just had

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to ask someone, so. In this age, it's
a lot different. Of course you can.

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You know, get mixed up information
from the internet and stuff, but at

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least you have, you know, somewhere
with quick access to kind of try to

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figure out what's going on, so. So did
you ask, um, So do you, you asked

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your mom a lot of questions about
during the pregnancy? I mean, did you,

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were you able to ask your mom or who
did you, who did you talk to the most

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when you were finding information out?
Probably uh my mom and I had a

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midwife with my first. So when I'd go
to the doctor's appointments and. I

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really didn't have any.

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Um, big issues during my pregnancy.
Um, it all went pretty smooth and I

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was still young enough that I was
pretty active, so I didn't gain a bunch

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of weight or. Anything like that, so.
It was all pretty simple until. The

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time when I went into delivery.

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That's a whole another story. It's
pretty scary. So do you remember, um,

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so you were young and it wasn't, you
know, huge like physical problem for

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you, but do you remember how you felt
like you didn't, maybe you didn't

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gain a lot of weight, but, um, do you
remember like emotionally, did you

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have any sort of, where you had, did
you have mixed feelings emotionally?

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Were you excited about it? Were you
scared about it? Um, well, I was

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excited that I actually was getting
breasts. But um. Cause, uh, that was,

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you know, something every young girl,
you know, thinks about, so. That was

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an exciting part, but along with your
breasts growing, uh, your stomach

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grows and, and I started seeing like
my body changing with like stretch

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marks and stuff, so that wasn't too
exciting, but. Um, And I really.

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I, I really didn't think anything of
it too much because I come from a big

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family and. I babysat quite a bit. And
so. In my mind, I felt like I was

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really prepared to have a baby. So,
not that I didn't plan it at all, so.

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Um,

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Anyway,

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So What year was it? What year was
this? 1980.

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So what year were you pregnant?

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I was pregnant in 1980.

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OK, great. Um, so you, you had a big
family and so this was not, even

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though I was surprised, you weren't,
you weren't as scared as maybe people

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would have anticipate a 16 year old
girl getting pregnant would be. Yeah,

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what I would call it is more naive.
Um, So I didn't. I didn't see a whole

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lot of people go through. Pregnancies
in a negative way, so I didn't see

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the pregnancy so much as in, you know,
what could happen um there also

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wasn't a lot of um births that were. I
would say, or I wasn't aware of a

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lot of. Um, births that could turn out
wrong, um, or something be. Um

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Birth defects or any of that kind of
stuff. Our family was pretty healthy

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babies, so I wasn't scared in that
way. And I think being kind of naive

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about it. Um, as far as. The pain and.
Being in the hospital and exactly

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what they had to do. Um,

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I think it

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I never even thought about it, so.

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That's why I didn't.

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I wasn't fearful. Or anything. I kind
of knew the steps that was gonna

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happen, but didn't know the intents of
what was about to happen.

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So do you remember um your first
indication that you were going into labor

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? Do you remember where you were? um
you can also tell us about um you

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know this is going to be listened to
by artists, so, um, any sort of like

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sensory descriptions like even if it
seems like an unnecessary detail like

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the color of the walls or like what
was the weather out that day or you

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know what time of the year it was or
where you were exactly if you

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remember what you were wearing or what
color your shoes were all of the.

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What it smelled like anywhere. If you
remember any of those, you know,

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feel free to include those because
that's good for um artists to kind of

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get inside of that situation. Um, so
you remember your first indication of

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labor. Um, yeah, um, I had. I was in
at my mom's house and we were

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watching, we usually watch the late
night. It was kind of a. Not really a

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late night show, but I could remember
the um Alfred Hitchcock movies. And

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that was kind of what we did kind of
late at night and um.

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When I first started. My labor. It was
kind of. Probably around 7 o'clock

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in the evening and I had had uh
Braxton Hicks earlier, like a couple weeks

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earlier, so um each time I would have
um Like a pain, I would check to see

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how long it was and um how long in
between it was uh the time was, so. And

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It was started at 7 o'clock and they
just kept going and they were

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intensified.

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And um. Started getting worse and so I
just told my mom. Um, I think this

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was the time to go and at the time my,
the baby's father was getting ready

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to go out of town to work, so I was
really kind of wanting to make sure

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that um. He was close if I in case I
went into labor, so um I was on my

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mom's couch watching TV and just kind
of checking. The times and stuff so.

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We probably went in about. 11 o'clock
or midnight to the hospital. It was

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um.

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That was kind of a scary thing. I got
put in a room with another lady who

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was pregnant who was. Just

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Hysterical.

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And it kind of scared me cuz I was
like. Trying to figure out why she was

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like practically climbing the walls
and stuff so it, it made me a little

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nervous. We just had like a little
petition in between us and So that was

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kind of scary and then when they came
in to examine me and see how far

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dilated I was um That was kind of a
different experience and. And then

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when they, it used to be that they
would shave like your pubic area. I

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mean the whole thing. So that was kind
of an. In experience for me too, so

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um.

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But they gave me, since I, I don't
know if it's because since I was so

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young, um, at this time I had turned
17, so I was 17. Um, And they had

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gave me like a. Medicine to like relax
me, um. So for the, for that part,

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I was kind of like dazed in and out
and so I would just kind of wake up

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and like hear this lady next to me
like screaming and so I was like, Kind

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of, you know, a little fearful and
then I would fade back into sleep. And

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then the next thing I, my water never
broke, so and they had to go in and

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break my water for me and. So I was
laying there and.

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In and out, uh, back then they kind of
gave you medicine to make you kind

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of sleepy and. The next time I woke
up, I saw the nurse like on top of me

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trying to push the baby out and that
was that hurt

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because I was so out of it that I
wasn't awake enough to push when I

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needed to, so. They would just tell me
push and and I'd be like. Like, I

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couldn't do anything, so. Um, They had
to use the forceps on.

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My oldest, my first. Um, To kinda help
pull him out and that was kind of

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typical to do too, so. Um, Yeah, and
then Uh, once he was out, I. Kind of

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woke up and saw him beside me and then
they like took him away. So our

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Went back to sleep and then when I
woke up the next time they were they

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put him on me and I started nursing
him at that time so but kind of in

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between that time I had episiotomy

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which.

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Then they would cut you first if
you're, if you weren't open enough to be

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able to birth. So if you tore it would
be harder to sew up, to put

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stitches. Um, so they did the
episiotomy, so, um, it would be heal much

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quicker. So Um, And and After that,
and then I don't remember the placenta

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or anything like that or cutting the
cord. So it was kind of. It's sad now

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that I think about it. Um, But
probably back then. It was probably the

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best way or they thought it was the
best way to let the. Woman be relaxed.

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So

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So, um, So was it and so was it it
wasn't an epidural, this was something

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else. They gave you like meds that
just knocked you out. They had a mask

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on me, so and. I, I really don't
remember if that's what knocked me out,

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um. And it could have been they gave
me an epidural in my back that I just

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didn't. Realize, I think, I think they
probably did because I couldn't

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feel uh my legs or anything so I'm
probably pretty sure they, I think they

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called it a a block back then. But um,

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I, I wasn't aware that they were
giving me anything like that at the time.

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So So when you um. When you were able
to wake up and realize what was

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going on when you were in, were you
able to see everything? Like they

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didn't, they didn't block you, you
know, they didn't put up a sheet or

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anything to block you. Like when you
woke up, what would you see? I mean,

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you woke up and you felt the, you saw
the nurse on top of you pushing do

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you even, um, at any point when you
woke up. Do you remember waking up

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during the like delivery part and
seeing any of this happening? No, they,

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they had like a sheet on my knees, my
feet were up that, so I couldn't

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really see what was going on. Um,

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Down there.

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Who was, was there someone else in the
room with you that was, that was

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watching, or was there someone else in
the room that was with you?

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Again back in.

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Like at that time, it wasn't typical
that you had people in the room with

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you. It was mainly the, I mean it was
the nurses and the doctors, um. My

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mom couldn't be there at the time, so
she wasn't there. And I don't think

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she would let the, they would let her
in the room anyway, so. I had my

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midwife there. And the nurses.

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And I mean, there was people in and
out, so. So do you remember? So the

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first time you saw your baby was he
was next to you. There wasn't. Did you

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know you were having a boy? Was there
a moment where they told you or were

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you out for that or were you expecting
that? or you know when was the

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first time that you actually got to
have a connection with the baby? And

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that was the. We didn't have like
sonograms to find out what the baby was

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, so it was a complete surprise. And
it was when he was next to me. I kind

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of

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That was the only part that I remember
then saying it was a boy and he was

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sat next to me like on a. I don't know
if it's a gurney or the. I can't

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think of what they're called. It's
like a

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A bed that they put him in the nursery
or whatever, so they were kind of

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cleaning him up then and I could look
over and see him. Um, and then once

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he got cleaned up is when they, uh,
put him on me, on my stomach, so. Do

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you remember what you were thinking
when you first saw him, like, were you

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thinking about what he looked like or
were you surprised by anything about

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like seeing him for the first time?
Yeah, um. I was, I was excited and you

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know, I love babies, so. Um,

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I was just checking him out and you
know, making sure all he had all his

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fingers and all his toes and um.

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That I I think it was shortly after
that I started nursing him and the

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nurse was trying to show me how to and
stuff like that, so. Um,

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One funny story is when the nurse uh
came and got him. He was, he was

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naked and she put him up to the window
to show his dad and he had a bowel

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movement in her hand. So that was kind
of a funny part of uh when he was

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born, so.

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And I also remember from them using
the forcep, he had kind of like a cone

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shaped head. But they put a little cap
on it, so, um, and they said that

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that was typical and especially using
forceps and. Um, so everything would

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go would be fine, and I was kind of
worried about that. And um the only

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other kind of. Story I guess would be
that the lady that was screaming and

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stuff that was beside me, she was also
my roommate uh in the recovery room.

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And Um, she had had, I can't remember
if it was a boy or a girl, but. Her

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baby was born with. 12 fingers. So she
had it, he or she had an extra

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pinky on each side of her pinky.

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And so

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They just, I could hear them talking
cause I mean there was right there

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and just a petition or whatever and I
never really, I never saw the baby,

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but they were telling the mom how they
were going to just tie our rubber

00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:14.166
bands around the base of the fingers
and they would just like fall off. So

00:24:14.199 --> 00:24:17.686
, um.

00:24:17.719 --> 00:24:24.785
I never like I said, I never saw the
baby and um so, but I thought that

00:24:24.818 --> 00:24:32.818
was just kind of. Different It's kind
of odd. Yeah, that's pretty. So

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after, so they moved you to a recovery
room. How long after um the baby

00:24:39.358 --> 00:24:42.986
was born, did they move you to the
room and what was that room like and

00:24:43.019 --> 00:24:51.019
the situation after? Um, I don't
remember the exact timing of it. Um, I do

00:24:54.130 --> 00:25:02.130
remember. Uh Just having a different
room and it was. Like I remember

00:25:03.959 --> 00:25:11.959
having one other lady in the room.
There could have been more. Um,

00:25:13.189 --> 00:25:16.406
The room had a window.

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In the front, but um I don't remember
any specifics of that. I don't

00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:25.565
remember.

00:25:25.598 --> 00:25:31.847
Then what food they served or anything
like that. So what was the

00:25:31.880 --> 00:25:35.565
procedure for after, like, was the
baby in the room with you? Or did they

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, did they take the baby away and
bring him back to you when were the

00:25:39.519 --> 00:25:44.045
family with you in the recovery room?
Or were you still by yourself? And

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then how long did you stay in the
hospital? Well. My mom was in the room

00:25:50.838 --> 00:25:56.565
when I went into the recovery room. I
could see I could have guests come

00:25:56.598 --> 00:26:04.598
in, um, for the most part, the baby
was in the nursery for the majority of

00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:13.000
the time they would just bring the
baby and when it need nursed. Um, And

00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:21.039
then they would Take him away, so it
was a lot, um. And like Today where

00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:27.647
the baby stays in the room with you,
the majority of the time the baby was

00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:35.680
in the nursery and uh.

00:26:36.180 --> 00:26:42.246
Forgot what I was gonna say. And how
long were you in the hospital? Uh, 3

00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:50.279
days. Yeah. Which is also different
than today.

00:26:50.568 --> 00:26:53.467
And

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Kind of one of the different things
that I didn't know about was. Um,

00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:08.166
When you have a baby boy, they have,
they are circumcised, um, and that's

00:27:08.199 --> 00:27:14.147
kind of a routine that they do. I
don't think they really discussed much

00:27:14.180 --> 00:27:20.717
about, you know, One way or the other,
which to decide, I think it was

00:27:20.750 --> 00:27:26.426
more of kind of just a routine thing
to do. So if you didn't really

00:27:26.459 --> 00:27:30.756
understand or know about circumcision.

00:27:30.789 --> 00:27:36.637
Um To say no, I don't want them
circumcised

00:27:36.670 --> 00:27:43.906
then. They would just naturally do a
circumcision. I'm sure I probably had

00:27:43.939 --> 00:27:48.467
to sign something, but I'm, I'm not. I
don't remember that and I don't

00:27:48.500 --> 00:27:55.565
remember them coming in and telling me
the pros and cons of circumcision.

00:27:55.598 --> 00:28:02.206
So That was one thing that was kind
of. You know, when you change their

00:28:02.239 --> 00:28:09.486
diaper, you had to, you had to learn a
whole. You like cleansing and stuff

00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:13.347
like that, so you had to be careful.

00:28:13.380 --> 00:28:18.647
So what was the um like how was home
life right after the baby? Like what

00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:25.166
, how was your situation and um being
now a new mother, what was, what was

00:28:25.199 --> 00:28:28.325
that like? And then also dealing, you
know, dealing with the baby, but

00:28:28.358 --> 00:28:32.516
also dealing with now this body that
has just performed this amazing feat

00:28:32.549 --> 00:28:35.206
and how is that different? or did you
feel different or did you feel the

00:28:35.239 --> 00:28:39.897
same as before?

00:28:39.930 --> 00:28:47.656
I think I pretty much. I didn't really
even think about if I felt

00:28:47.689 --> 00:28:53.936
different or anything, I just. It was
just

00:28:53.969 --> 00:29:01.969
Dealing with the situation, I guess.

00:29:02.910 --> 00:29:08.717
OK, so, um, tell us again about your
home life, the home life situation

00:29:08.750 --> 00:29:14.097
after you left the hospital, you went
home with the new baby, um. Kind of

00:29:14.130 --> 00:29:19.217
your experience with your first, your
first baby and having it at home and

00:29:19.250 --> 00:29:24.936
breastfeeding in your living
situation, things like that. OK, well, I

00:29:24.969 --> 00:29:31.887
remember my mom and my two younger
brothers and my sister came to pick me

00:29:31.920 --> 00:29:38.295
up from the hospital and uh the first
place we went to is we went out to

00:29:38.328 --> 00:29:46.328
eat and um it was kind of. Um, Fun to
bring the baby in and people were

00:29:48.009 --> 00:29:53.815
all like, I wanna see the baby and I
was kind of a proud mom and you know

00:29:53.848 --> 00:30:00.166
, thought it was. Interesting that,
you know, people want to see the baby

00:30:00.199 --> 00:30:07.166
and stuff so uh and then I had ice
cream, so that was fun. Um and then

00:30:07.199 --> 00:30:10.956
when I got home, I probably

00:30:10.989 --> 00:30:18.989
My sister had had her baby in July and
then.

00:30:19.598 --> 00:30:26.736
Uh, my son was born in October, so she
already had like a little bassinet

00:30:26.769 --> 00:30:32.276
and stuff, so, um.

00:30:32.309 --> 00:30:39.156
The baby had a place to stay and
stuff, but I was in the.

00:30:39.189 --> 00:30:45.746
At home, there was my mom, my stepdad,
my two younger brothers, my sister

00:30:45.779 --> 00:30:52.666
with a baby in like a 2 bedroom house.
So it was kind of, it was pretty

00:30:52.699 --> 00:31:00.699
crowded and so. I chose to my choices
were to be in the house. Uh, with

00:31:03.259 --> 00:31:10.585
the newborn baby with a lot of chaos
going on. My stepdad was an alcoholic

00:31:10.618 --> 00:31:18.618
and. Um, or we had a, a big conversion
van with a bed in the back. So I

00:31:22.299 --> 00:31:29.976
chose to. Uh, to stay in the
conversion van. We lived in Florida. It was

00:31:30.009 --> 00:31:37.456
nice all year round, so the
temperature was good and I felt like less

00:31:37.489 --> 00:31:45.489
crowded. Um, Staying there, so yeah,
for the first probably.

00:31:47.390 --> 00:31:55.390
3 to 4 months. I stayed in the back of
a van with my newborn baby.

00:31:55.779 --> 00:32:03.637
Of course I had my mom, if I had any
questions or, you know, I would go in

00:32:03.670 --> 00:32:11.670
and out of the house, so it wasn't
like I was stranded away, but when. And

00:32:12.049 --> 00:32:19.946
my stepdad would be there. I wouldn't
be there, so. Um, But my mom helped

00:32:19.979 --> 00:32:27.979
a lot with. You know, If I had
questions or anything like that, also my

00:32:28.930 --> 00:32:35.847
sister, cause she's she had already
been through it, so and.

00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:42.545
We were kind of in a process of
whether we were going to stay in Florida

00:32:42.578 --> 00:32:50.026
or if we were gonna move back to
Mississippi. So, um,

00:32:50.059 --> 00:32:58.059
Anyway, it was kind of like a little
transition place but. Um,

00:32:58.368 --> 00:33:05.785
The baby was fine, uh. I nursed him,
so I didn't have to wake up in the

00:33:05.818 --> 00:33:12.686
middle of the night and go get bottles
or anything like that and. It was a

00:33:12.719 --> 00:33:17.926
little tricky when I had to change
diapers cause back then it was cloth

00:33:17.959 --> 00:33:25.959
diapers and rubber pants and. So it
wasn't quite as easy as disposable

00:33:26.348 --> 00:33:29.956
diapers and plus those, those probably
would have been a lot more

00:33:29.989 --> 00:33:37.989
expensive. At the time I wasn't
working, um. So

00:33:39.410 --> 00:33:46.127
It was kind of expensive to have a
baby, but when you're nursing, you

00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:52.315
don't really need anything other than
for food wise, uh, anything other

00:33:52.348 --> 00:34:00.348
than water or something like that. um,
so. That's how his 1st 3 months of

00:34:02.989 --> 00:34:08.396
his life were. I don't think he
remembers it, so,

00:34:08.429 --> 00:34:11.436
but anyway.

00:34:11.469 --> 00:34:16.717
So, um, we're also asking people to
think about, we're trying to like

00:34:16.750 --> 00:34:19.396
categorize all of the stories and
everything, so we're trying to think

00:34:19.429 --> 00:34:25.195
about if you could kind of sum up that
first birthing experience into like

00:34:25.228 --> 00:34:31.967
one word or one phrase, like looking
back on it, um. What does anything

00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:39.856
pop pop up or come to your mind?

00:34:39.889 --> 00:34:45.077
Probably at the time of the birds
would be.

00:34:45.110 --> 00:34:47.110
ScaredGood