WEBVTT 00:00:00.009 --> 00:00:05.606 Um, OK, first of all, we're ready. Kelly Brown. OK, and it is the 13th so 00:00:05.639 --> 00:00:11.206 this is like 5:30. OK, so this is for Solis. Yeah, it's recording 00:00:11.239 --> 00:00:15.806 interviewing Kelly Brown for the Creative Push project on August 13th at 00:00:15.839 --> 00:00:18.425 4:30. 00:00:18.458 --> 00:00:22.096 OK. So we're just going to do some audio stuff now, so why don't you just 00:00:22.129 --> 00:00:27.986 tell us a little bit about yourself. I'm from Tucson, born and raised, 00:00:28.019 --> 00:00:32.707 little tiny family, just me and my sister, my parents, and I just, I grew 00:00:32.740 --> 00:00:35.987 up down there and then I ended up going to ASUU, much to my parents' 00:00:36.020 --> 00:00:42.945 dislike. My dad works at UA and has for like 35 years. So hearing that his 00:00:42.978 --> 00:00:47.125 daughter was going to go to ASU was not, not good news in the family, but 00:00:47.158 --> 00:00:52.546 , but interior design and architecture. So and Ue didn't have interior 00:00:52.579 --> 00:00:57.046 design, so. Between the program and a scholarship, ASU was the choice. So 00:00:57.079 --> 00:01:01.366 , and that's, and I've just been here ever since. And so I met Ian shortly 00:01:01.399 --> 00:01:05.566 after I graduated college, which is crazy. I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm 00:01:05.599 --> 00:01:10.617 getting so old. And uh yeah, we've been here, just moved around the valley 00:01:10.650 --> 00:01:14.456 in different locations and landed, we've been in this neighborhood for 00:01:14.489 --> 00:01:20.576 going on 6 years and we love it. So it's just very quiet and secluded. So 00:01:20.609 --> 00:01:25.897 yeah, it's really quiet here and that's about it. OK, so, um. Are we good 00:01:25.930 --> 00:01:31.355 ? Yeah, OK. Um, why don't you just kind of transport us back to the time 00:01:31.388 --> 00:01:34.876 when you were pregnant or at the time of conception or anything, if there 00:01:34.909 --> 00:01:40.846 was anything memorable, um, you know, if it's like a sweltering summer or 00:01:40.879 --> 00:01:44.236 if there were any events happening in your life, you know, it was the last 00:01:44.269 --> 00:01:49.426 day that I was in my twenties. That um we know that we accepted. It was 00:01:49.459 --> 00:01:54.995 the day before my 30th birthday and it was also Thanksgiving. And so that 00:01:55.028 --> 00:01:58.555 was kind of cool just because we had been trying for so long to have a 00:01:58.588 --> 00:02:02.436 baby. So it was just kind of fitting. I was like, OK, I'm still young, I'm 00:02:02.469 --> 00:02:06.796 still in my 20s and it's Thanksgiving. So it just seemed like it was a 00:02:06.829 --> 00:02:11.237 perfect day for that kind of thing to happen. So we were very excited when 00:02:11.270 --> 00:02:15.327 we found out was actually we were planning a trip to Nebraska and I was 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:19.995 just feeling so tired, so tired. Like I would come home from work and I'd 00:02:20.028 --> 00:02:23.245 be laying on the floor and I'd just fall asleep next to the dog and I'm 00:02:23.278 --> 00:02:26.286 like, what is going on? I'd wake up and I'd be like, Did I just fall 00:02:26.319 --> 00:02:30.876 asleep? Like I can't be that tired. So, um, and then I had gone to work 00:02:30.909 --> 00:02:33.467 and being just an interior designer, I'd opened up a paintbook and I was 00:02:33.500 --> 00:02:37.646 like, this smells terrible. Like, why am I smelling all this paint? And so 00:02:37.679 --> 00:02:41.159 I was like, I don't know. Something's weird and so took a pregnancy test. 00:02:41.192 --> 00:02:44.659 It was the day before we were supposed to travel and it was positive, so 00:02:44.692 --> 00:02:47.659 we're like, no way. So of course we like buy all these and I'm taking them. 00:02:47.692 --> 00:02:50.860 We still don't believe it. So I like booked an appointment that day to go 00:02:50.893 --> 00:02:54.039 to the doctor's office and I'm like, OK, can I get a blood test just to 00:02:54.072 --> 00:02:57.409 know for sure. And they're like, OK. And so doctor called that afternoon 00:02:57.442 --> 00:03:01.018 and he's like, Yep, you're pregnant. And so it was definitely a very 00:03:01.051 --> 00:03:06.061 exciting, exciting. An unexpected time. 00:03:06.094 --> 00:03:09.112 So you can see on Thanksgiving Day Thanksgiving. Yes. Because I, because 00:03:09.145 --> 00:03:13.441 we'd been trying for so long to have a baby, so the conception process, 00:03:13.474 --> 00:03:16.672 I've been tracking it. I had an app and so it was all like I was taking my 00:03:16.705 --> 00:03:21.072 temperature every single morning and just like watching the whole cycle 00:03:21.105 --> 00:03:24.251 and everything because I don't have a normal cycle whatsoever. It'd be 00:03:24.284 --> 00:03:29.112 like 45 days in between. So I was like, this app was like my thing. I had 00:03:29.145 --> 00:03:33.927 to keep track of that app. And so Yeah, so we knew cause you keep track of 00:03:33.960 --> 00:03:38.846 like every little bit of information in that. So, there we go. So it's 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:43.596 pretty easy to tell when. So how did he feel about it because we did that 00:03:43.629 --> 00:03:49.036 too, and my husband was like not having it. It was at times I'd have to 00:03:49.069 --> 00:03:53.286 catch myself because at times it would be very like too much pressure and 00:03:53.319 --> 00:03:55.797 too overwhelming for both of us. Like, OK, you're putting too much 00:03:55.830 --> 00:03:59.906 pressure on this and it's hard to not get caught up in that, but I felt 00:03:59.939 --> 00:04:04.555 like, I don't know, after you try to not stress out about it, it really 00:04:04.588 --> 00:04:08.376 does help. It does, as cheesy as that sounds. And then it happened. I'm 00:04:08.409 --> 00:04:12.096 like, oh people were right, I shouldn't be stressing about this. But it's 00:04:12.129 --> 00:04:14.577 hard not to stress about getting pregnant and if you can, because 00:04:14.610 --> 00:04:18.217 especially if it's taking a long time, you automatically think something's 00:04:18.250 --> 00:04:22.507 wrong or something's that's not going to happen and then it's like the 00:04:22.540 --> 00:04:26.455 years tick by and you're like, OK, I'm only getting older and birth 00:04:26.488 --> 00:04:30.825 defects only rise each year you get older and like your whole. I don't 00:04:30.858 --> 00:04:36.305 know. Things, your perspective on things kind of change once you kind of 00:04:36.338 --> 00:04:40.305 delve into all that extra information. It's like I, I wasn't aware of so 00:04:40.338 --> 00:04:43.947 many different things and it's like, oh, you're odds of this, but by the 00:04:43.980 --> 00:04:48.145 time you're 2 years older, it's like quadrupled, and it's like, oh my gosh. 00:04:48.178 --> 00:04:56.178 So it's Interesting. So how um how was the pregnancy experience once you 00:04:56.358 --> 00:04:59.895 found that you're pregnant? It was, I actually had it pretty easy being 00:04:59.928 --> 00:05:03.726 pregnant. It was pretty smooth. There was one initial scare right at the 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:07.127 beginning, and we were actually, we took a trip up to Sedona. We love 00:05:07.160 --> 00:05:10.447 going to Sedona, and so we just had a little private trip, just the two of 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:12.887 us before Christmas just to kind of like, oh my goodness, let's celebrate 00:05:12.920 --> 00:05:17.356 , we're pregnant finally. And I started having these really bad pains down 00:05:17.389 --> 00:05:21.406 there. And so of course you start just like thinking, OK, is it, what is I 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:24.825 don't. I remember what it's called the epitopic pregnancy, wherever it's 00:05:24.858 --> 00:05:30.137 not actually fully in, um, it's in one of the tubes. And so all my 00:05:30.170 --> 00:05:33.145 symptoms were showing that and I was like, OK, I don't know. So we booked 00:05:33.178 --> 00:05:35.866 an appointment and it was actually Christmas Eve that we went in and they 00:05:35.899 --> 00:05:39.546 did an ultrasound just to make sure it was a viable pregnancy. And it was 00:05:39.579 --> 00:05:44.305 , but they're like, OK, just like take it easy, don't stress, like it 00:05:44.338 --> 00:05:48.257 should be fine. And so that was like our hiccup at the beginning and then 00:05:48.290 --> 00:05:54.137 from then on it was smooth sailing, so. I didn't have morning sickness and 00:05:54.170 --> 00:06:00.156 hormones. I, I like to say that I was pretty good and bearable wife to him. 00:06:00.189 --> 00:06:04.676 Um, I don't know if he would say otherwise, but it was a pretty smooth 00:06:04.709 --> 00:06:08.476 pregnancy. It was just like the tick down of weeks and like getting more 00:06:08.509 --> 00:06:13.916 excited each week that went by. How was the weight and the water retention. 00:06:13.949 --> 00:06:21.949 Oh my gosh, I had my feet were like whale feet. They were huge. I could, 00:06:22.355 --> 00:06:25.241 I had a hard time like wearing any kind of shoes. Thankfully it was 00:06:25.274 --> 00:06:29.601 summertime by the time I was 9 months pregnant, but they were huge, so 00:06:29.634 --> 00:06:35.120 swollen, like, oh, they were massive. And then weight gain, I gained just 00:06:35.153 --> 00:06:39.882 over 30 pounds. So it wasn't terrible. It wasn't terrible. It was the most 00:06:39.915 --> 00:06:44.015 I've ever waited in my entire life, which I was like, OK, and I never 00:06:44.048 --> 00:06:47.926 owned a scale before and we got a scale. We actually got the scale after I 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:50.536 had the baby, so I'm like, I don't want to know because then I'll be like 00:06:50.569 --> 00:06:53.656 obsessed with going into the bathroom and seeing what I was weighing, but 00:06:53.689 --> 00:06:56.895 I was just like, you know what, it's all for good cause. Good weight gain 00:06:56.928 --> 00:07:02.416 is a good thing. It means baby's baby's healthy. It's a really good. So, 00:07:02.449 --> 00:07:09.156 and of course I didn't limit what I ate or anything, so. And uh I'm trying 00:07:09.189 --> 00:07:14.467 to think. The one thing that I did have, um, that was painful was she was 00:07:14.500 --> 00:07:19.226 on my sciatic nerve for the last 3 weeks before I gave birth, and that was 00:07:19.259 --> 00:07:23.096 very, very painful. I couldn't sit. The only time I'd be comfortable was 00:07:23.129 --> 00:07:26.346 laying down, but even then I'd be like changing positions. So I was 00:07:26.379 --> 00:07:30.495 working from home 2. weeks prior to giving birth, because I was like, I 00:07:30.528 --> 00:07:33.536 can't sit in the office all day, guys. Like I would stand up and I'd get 00:07:33.569 --> 00:07:36.895 like shooting pains and like my leg would almost feel like it was going to 00:07:36.928 --> 00:07:40.536 give out underneath me and I'm just like, this is terrible. doctor's like 00:07:40.569 --> 00:07:44.245 , well, he's like, there's nothing we can do. He's like, He's like, it's 00:07:44.278 --> 00:07:48.366 gonna be over soon. I'm like, OK, but I'd be getting up like 3 or 4 times 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:51.765 a night taking hot showers because that felt amazing. Like you couldn't 00:07:51.798 --> 00:07:55.887 feel any of it. And then the second you get out it was like, oh, so that 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:59.805 part was not fun, but I can't complain because the rest of it was very 00:07:59.838 --> 00:08:04.205 easy. So. And that you were working up almost till the very end then. Yes 00:08:04.238 --> 00:08:09.187 , I was working the morning that I gave birth. 00:08:09.220 --> 00:08:12.825 So I remember because our HR lady had emailed me and I was sitting on her 00:08:12.858 --> 00:08:19.346 bedroom and uh um I had the laptop on my lap and I'm just working away and 00:08:19.379 --> 00:08:21.986 uh she emailed me and she's like, hey, Kelly, I just wanna check in cause 00:08:22.019 --> 00:08:25.426 it was a Monday and my due date was on a Tuesday. And she's like, I just 00:08:25.459 --> 00:08:28.877 want to check in and see if you're gonna be working up until your due date 00:08:28.910 --> 00:08:31.387 or if you're already gonna just start your maternity leave now. And I'm 00:08:31.420 --> 00:08:34.576 like, no, I'll be working until, because I'm like, I haven't like 00:08:34.609 --> 00:08:38.287 contractions aren't here. I might as well be working. So it was, that was 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:42.336 at 9:30 in the morning. So I emailed her back that and 10 o'clock 00:08:42.369 --> 00:08:46.037 contractions hit. I'm like, oh my gosh, and I was home cause we had a 00:08:46.070 --> 00:08:50.787 doctor's appointment at like, what time was it? At 11. And they were 00:08:50.820 --> 00:08:55.186 coming really fast. They're like 5 or 6 minutes apart and I'm like, OK, I 00:08:55.219 --> 00:08:58.787 think I need to call and see if I need to go to the hospital instead. And 00:08:58.820 --> 00:09:01.907 so I called them and they're like, no, go ahead and come on in. We just 00:09:01.940 --> 00:09:05.385 want to make certain that, you know, these are actual contractions that 00:09:05.418 --> 00:09:07.787 you're feeling. Like, don't waste your time going to the hospital and then 00:09:07.820 --> 00:09:10.667 have them just like turn you away because they wanted to make certain all 00:09:10.700 --> 00:09:14.265 my fluid levels were OK because there was an ultrasound scheduled. And so 00:09:14.298 --> 00:09:19.525 , um, I'm like, OK, and so it was like just a little after 10. I'm like, 00:09:19.558 --> 00:09:22.287 OK, and they were like getting stronger and I'm like, I don't know if we 00:09:22.320 --> 00:09:25.047 should be going to the doctor's office right now, but I'm just gonna trust 00:09:25.080 --> 00:09:31.976 them because they know what they're doing. And so, um, We get there at 11 00:09:32.009 --> 00:09:35.686 and they take me back to the ultrasound tech room. I'm like, why are they 00:09:35.719 --> 00:09:39.525 taking me to the ultrasound tech room? And they're like, well, we, we just 00:09:39.558 --> 00:09:42.047 wanna, since you're here and it was already scheduled, like, let's just 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:45.246 make sure everything looks good, your fluid levels could it have been like 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:48.917 , I don't know, 3 or 4 weeks since the last ultrasound. I'm like, OK. So 00:09:48.950 --> 00:09:51.717 we go back there and the lady's like doing her thing and she's like taking 00:09:51.750 --> 00:09:54.236 all her measurements. She's like fluid levels look great and I'm like, OK 00:09:54.269 --> 00:09:59.037 , so uncomfortable because I'm like sitting on this table like having 00:09:59.070 --> 00:10:02.076 contractions, which I was like, are these contractions? I don't know. Like 00:10:02.109 --> 00:10:06.260 all I know is it hurts. And then she starts doing trying to get that. He 00:10:06.293 --> 00:10:09.821 measurement and she's like, Well, it's really hard to hit because she's so 00:10:09.854 --> 00:10:14.260 far down there. And I'm like, OK, then why, why are you trying to do this 00:10:14.293 --> 00:10:17.221 right now? Like it doesn't matter. So she's like, OK, well, the 00:10:17.254 --> 00:10:22.140 approximate birth weight is going to be, she's like 9.5 pounds. So I felt 00:10:22.173 --> 00:10:25.936 lost it because I'm like 9.5 pounds. And like you guys told me it would be 00:10:25.969 --> 00:10:30.375 like around 7. So I'm thinking like, how the heck did this baby gain, you 00:10:30.408 --> 00:10:34.236 know, 2.5 pounds that quickly? Like that's not right. And then I'm like 00:10:34.269 --> 00:10:36.407 freaking out because I'm like, that's a big difference, delivering a 7 00:10:36.440 --> 00:10:40.297 pound baby and a 9.5 pound baby. Like, don't tell me that right now. And 00:10:40.330 --> 00:10:43.052 then she was trying to be all reassuring. She's like, no. Oh, she's like, 00:10:43.085 --> 00:10:46.932 it could be wrong. She's so far down there. Like even just a fraction of a 00:10:46.965 --> 00:10:50.092 centimeter, like it can set the scale off. And so she was trying to 00:10:50.125 --> 00:10:54.010 reassure me and I'm like, OK, you still said 9.5 pounds. Like that's all 00:10:54.043 --> 00:10:58.211 I'm picturing now. And so, um, she's like, OK, well, we're done in here, 00:10:58.244 --> 00:11:01.932 so we'll have you go to the other room. So they put me up to the machine 00:11:01.965 --> 00:11:07.186 and they're like, OK, we'll just have this monitor you for like, I don't 00:11:07.219 --> 00:11:10.135 remember what she said, like 20 minutes till they could like get enough of 00:11:10.168 --> 00:11:15.265 like the scale of it going up and down. I'm like, OK, so they like have me 00:11:15.298 --> 00:11:19.106 in there and I's there and I'm just like watching this machine. I'm like I 00:11:19.139 --> 00:11:22.066 don't know what these little lines mean. I'm like, but it's going up 00:11:22.099 --> 00:11:25.525 pretty high and then like down low. I'm like. Why are we sitting in this 00:11:25.558 --> 00:11:28.967 room right now? So they came in and they're like, OK, well they like took 00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:32.446 the paper off the little machine and she walks out and I remember that 00:11:32.479 --> 00:11:36.167 room was like freezing cold in there too. It's like this tiny little room 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:40.005 with like the bright fluorescent lights and she comes back in and she's 00:11:40.038 --> 00:11:43.496 like, Well, you're having contractions. And I'm like, OK. And she's like, 00:11:43.529 --> 00:11:46.635 well now we're gonna have you go to this other exam room. So Doctor Carter 00:11:46.668 --> 00:11:50.996 can check you out. I'm like, OK, so in the process from walking to that 00:11:51.029 --> 00:11:54.996 room or from that room to the other room that I'm normally in, my water 00:11:55.029 --> 00:12:01.846 breaks. And so like I'm like um I think it that my water just broken. I'm 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:04.486 like, I don't know if that's what it was. I had never had it happen. And 00:12:04.519 --> 00:12:07.486 she's like, OK, well she's like, it's OK. Just like go to the other room, 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:12.427 we'll have them test it and make certain it is. And it was. He's like, OK. 00:12:12.460 --> 00:12:16.206 And so then he checks and he's like, OK, you're at 6 centimeters dilated. 00:12:16.239 --> 00:12:19.005 And I'm like, OK, he's like, so we're gonna call the hospital right now. 00:12:19.038 --> 00:12:22.407 He's like, just go over there. And thankfully it was like 5 minutes away. 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:26.787 Like even from our house to the hospital it was 7 minutes away. And then 00:12:26.820 --> 00:12:29.726 from the doctor's office there was like 5 minutes. So at least it was all 00:12:29.759 --> 00:12:33.096 very close. So he's like, go over there. He's like, we'll get you all 00:12:33.129 --> 00:12:35.816 ready like you're already pre-registered, just like go over there. I'm 00:12:35.849 --> 00:12:40.775 like, OK, because it was weeks prior to that I had been at like 3 or 4 00:12:40.808 --> 00:12:44.816 centimeters and he was like, each because at that point they have you come 00:12:44.849 --> 00:12:47.976 in once a week for checkups and each time I come in, he's like, you're 00:12:48.009 --> 00:12:51.726 still no baby. He's like, each weekend I expect like a beep to come 00:12:51.759 --> 00:12:57.316 through that itchy when it's not. And so, um. 00:12:57.349 --> 00:13:04.496 He called us in to the hospital, so. We drive over to the hospital. I 00:13:04.529 --> 00:13:08.696 remember I was like we were. I think we tried calling our parents, but 00:13:08.729 --> 00:13:11.255 they weren't answering, of course, because it's a Monday in the middle of 00:13:11.288 --> 00:13:14.696 the day. And so we're texting them and then I'm like texting work to try 00:13:14.729 --> 00:13:17.616 to be like, OK, I am officially out of the office now, guys like I'm 00:13:17.649 --> 00:13:21.375 headed to it's happening, headed to the hospital and so we make it to the 00:13:21.408 --> 00:13:26.816 hospital and they get us all checked in to the triage section and I 00:13:26.849 --> 00:13:29.976 remember the the first nurse I had, you know it's like some people you 00:13:30.009 --> 00:13:33.096 like totally feel just like at ease with like right off the bat and then 00:13:33.129 --> 00:13:36.287 other ones where it's just like. OK, this is not going to be a good match 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:39.645 for this kind of situation. That was totally this nurse because right off 00:13:39.678 --> 00:13:41.967 the bat she's like, OK, are you planning on getting an epidural? And I was 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:46.446 like, Well, I wasn't planning on it. I'm like, I tried to not have it. I'm 00:13:46.479 --> 00:13:49.525 like, but I might change my mind. She's like, wait, she's like, Well, have 00:13:49.558 --> 00:13:53.895 you had any training for that? I'm like, No. And she's like, well, some 00:13:53.928 --> 00:13:56.326 people have to have a lot of training to be able to go through this 00:13:56.359 --> 00:13:59.765 without that. I'm like, OK, why are you trying to knock me down? Like 00:13:59.798 --> 00:14:03.177 right right as this is happening. And she's like, yeah, she's like, well, 00:14:03.210 --> 00:14:06.346 just, you're gonna have to let us know. I'm like, OK. So they're like 00:14:06.379 --> 00:14:10.167 having us do all this paperwork. I don't even know what I was signing 00:14:10.200 --> 00:14:13.467 cause all I know is I was just having really bad contractions in my back 00:14:13.500 --> 00:14:17.186 and I just kept repeating ow over and over again. Like I said, he's like 00:14:17.219 --> 00:14:20.265 the whole time I was in labor, that's the only word I could say was ow, ow 00:14:20.298 --> 00:14:26.616 , ow. But like the entire time, no other words came out. And I didn't want 00:14:26.649 --> 00:14:30.946 him to touch me. Like I was just like, let me be here saying ow. I want 00:14:30.979 --> 00:14:36.467 you next to me, just don't touch me. So how was the sciatic nerve at that 00:14:36.500 --> 00:14:41.866 point, I couldn't even feel it. Like it was succumbed by, I was having 00:14:41.899 --> 00:14:45.586 really bad back labor, so it was like all in my lower back. It was like 00:14:45.619 --> 00:14:50.755 really intense cramps. And so that just like I completely couldn't even 00:14:50.788 --> 00:14:53.885 feel anything that was going on in my leg. It was just like. Completely 00:14:53.918 --> 00:14:57.287 different focus. And I think the fact too that I was like, we're having a 00:14:57.320 --> 00:15:03.116 baby, so I am not focusing on this other stuff anymore. Um, and so we were 00:15:03.149 --> 00:15:06.826 in the triage place and they ended up switching nurses, thankfully. I was 00:15:06.859 --> 00:15:10.875 so happy. And the next lady was just awesome, like wonderful sweet lady 00:15:10.908 --> 00:15:14.427 that was just like. Not that the other one wasn't caring, but this one 00:15:14.460 --> 00:15:18.885 just came across a lot more caring, which I needed. A little bit more warm 00:15:18.918 --> 00:15:23.686 and fuzzy feeling than the other one. and so I don't remember, it's so 00:15:23.719 --> 00:15:27.686 hard to remember the time like everything was happening so fast yet it 00:15:27.719 --> 00:15:33.566 wasn't. And um I think it was by the time. They were getting ready to get 00:15:33.599 --> 00:15:36.525 me to the delivery room. I told her that I had changed my mind. I'm like, 00:15:36.558 --> 00:15:40.576 I want to have an epidural. I like I, I just, I have to have it. I'm like 00:15:40.609 --> 00:15:42.807 because I didn't know how long it was going to be going on and it was just 00:15:42.840 --> 00:15:46.645 getting like more and more intense and I'm just like, I don't know if I'm 00:15:46.678 --> 00:15:50.807 strong enough to do this because I remember even being pregnant before 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:55.226 that um it would be like. In the middle of the night getting leg cramps, 00:15:55.259 --> 00:15:57.706 and I would wake up and I'd be like, it doesn't hurt, it doesn't hurt like 00:15:57.739 --> 00:16:01.726 practicing, trying to like make prepare myself for labor. That might have 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:07.505 been a silly thing to do, but just trying anything. And it was oh so much 00:16:07.538 --> 00:16:11.427 more painful than a leg cramp. But like I can't do it. I'm not strong 00:16:11.460 --> 00:16:15.025 enough for this. And just hearing like friends of mine too, they were in 00:16:15.058 --> 00:16:20.346 labor for like 12+ hours, and I'm like, I don't think I can do this for 12 00:16:20.379 --> 00:16:24.417 hours. Like I don't have it within me. Apparently I needed to get that 00:16:24.450 --> 00:16:27.537 training or practicing. 00:16:27.570 --> 00:16:31.356 Um, it would have helped me out. But, so I told them that and she's like, 00:16:31.389 --> 00:16:35.836 OK, she's like, let me go, um, talk with the anesthesiologist because they 00:16:35.869 --> 00:16:40.037 only have one on staff, which in my opinion, why do you only have one in 00:16:40.070 --> 00:16:43.946 staff that makes zero sense. So she comes back and she's like, well, he 00:16:43.979 --> 00:16:47.677 was called into an emergency C-section for twins. She's like, so it's 00:16:47.710 --> 00:16:50.875 gonna be a little while until we can get him. She's like, OK. She's like, 00:16:50.908 --> 00:16:54.717 so let's just take this slow, like just keep calm, like he's gonna be on 00:16:54.750 --> 00:16:58.145 his way as soon as he can. So we're waiting forever and she comes back and 00:16:58.178 --> 00:17:02.395 she's like, OK, one twin's delivered. I'm like, OK. And so we're still at 00:17:02.428 --> 00:17:05.627 the triage area. And she's like, OK, well, but we're gonna need to go 00:17:05.660 --> 00:17:08.026 ahead and take you over to the other room. She's like, but as soon as he's 00:17:08.059 --> 00:17:11.305 done, we're gonna get him to you. I'm like, OK. So we're like walking the 00:17:11.338 --> 00:17:14.906 halls over to the place and she was like, Take your time. Like I know this 00:17:14.939 --> 00:17:18.746 is painful right now, like you don't, no hurry. I'm like booking it down 00:17:18.779 --> 00:17:22.266 the hall cause I'm like, I just want to get to this other room like maybe 00:17:22.299 --> 00:17:26.825 that'll mean that the anesthesiologist will be here quicker. And so we 00:17:26.858 --> 00:17:30.545 make it to the other room and I don't know how much time had passed, but 00:17:30.578 --> 00:17:34.946 he finally comes and at this point I'm telling him I'm like, guys, I feel 00:17:34.979 --> 00:17:38.506 just, I feel a different feeling down there that I've never felt before. 00:17:38.539 --> 00:17:42.147 I'm like, something's happening and they're like, well, well, don't like 00:17:42.180 --> 00:17:46.785 do anything like just stay calm, like don't push, like don't do anything, 00:17:46.818 --> 00:17:50.676 we'll check you as soon as he gives you the epidural. I'm like, OK. So 00:17:50.709 --> 00:17:55.226 give me the epidural and my contractions were happening so fast that they 00:17:55.259 --> 00:17:59.467 were like, you've got to stay still when they're giving that to you. And 00:17:59.500 --> 00:18:03.506 they were happening like every minute at that point and they're like, OK, 00:18:03.539 --> 00:18:06.117 and some of them were like much more severe than other ones. They were 00:18:06.150 --> 00:18:09.266 monitoring on the thing and they're like, OK, this should be a last one 00:18:09.299 --> 00:18:12.946 coming up, so just like stay calm and they're like telling me how to like 00:18:12.979 --> 00:18:20.575 hold myself. I'm like, OK, so they um Do it. And uh he's like, OK, it went 00:18:20.608 --> 00:18:23.496 well and I'm like, OK, and then they're like asking if I felt anything and 00:18:23.529 --> 00:18:26.016 how I was feeling like, no, I'm definitely feeling better. So then they 00:18:26.049 --> 00:18:32.617 check and I was at 10 centimeters. And so. So the guy's like, I would say 00:18:32.650 --> 00:18:35.696 you've definitely experienced childbirth, and he's like, and had we 00:18:35.729 --> 00:18:41.137 checked before, like you wouldn't have even gotten it. And so I'm like, OK 00:18:41.170 --> 00:18:43.936 , but then I was kind of like, OK, well, now I don't have to feel the 00:18:43.969 --> 00:18:49.055 pushing part of it. So it's kind of a little blessing. But oh, so then 00:18:49.088 --> 00:18:52.016 they're calling the doctor cause they were thinking I was still a little 00:18:52.049 --> 00:18:56.335 ways away from it. So thankfully, his office was closed and he was like 00:18:56.368 --> 00:19:00.627 expecting it. And so he gets there and I think it was about, so we got to 00:19:00.660 --> 00:19:08.660 the hospital around noon, and this was around 3:30, I wanna say. And he um 00:19:08.779 --> 00:19:15.397 shows up and I think we only had to, so he comes into the room and it was 00:19:15.430 --> 00:19:18.647 Anne, me. I didn't want my parents to be there and my sister, and they at 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:21.835 that point had traveled from Tucson, so they were down in the waiting room 00:19:21.868 --> 00:19:24.877 waiting and we don't have any other family in town and I's parents were 00:19:24.910 --> 00:19:29.717 just like on, on hold on the phone like just waiting to hear what was 00:19:29.750 --> 00:19:37.295 happening and um. I want to say she was born at 4:26, so I didn't have to 00:19:37.328 --> 00:19:40.575 push that many rounds. It was I think like 3 or 4 rounds of pushing and 00:19:40.608 --> 00:19:45.496 she was out and it was just crazy how fast it was happening. Like I had no 00:19:45.529 --> 00:19:49.617 idea of what time it was, like what time of day, what was going on, like 00:19:49.650 --> 00:19:54.877 nothing. And there was just one part where it was actually right before it 00:19:54.910 --> 00:19:59.035 was while we were waiting for him to come over. There was a drop in her 00:19:59.068 --> 00:20:02.357 heart rate wherever she was. And so they had me like repositioning myself 00:20:02.390 --> 00:20:05.916 and they had me on oxygen. And I remember that was like it was that was a 00:20:05.949 --> 00:20:09.315 scary moment for the entire thing because I was just like, OK, I was just 00:20:09.348 --> 00:20:12.717 trying to keep calm inside. Like it's going to be OK. Like you got to stay 00:20:12.750 --> 00:20:16.696 positive, like. We've made it this farm like she's a healthy baby, like 00:20:16.729 --> 00:20:20.367 they're just taking precautions right now. I remember that was that was a 00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:24.117 scary part for me. And I was just like, you always hear these stories of 00:20:24.150 --> 00:20:27.456 like these birth stories and how quickly things can change and it was just 00:20:27.489 --> 00:20:31.676 like trying to not make my mind go immediately there, which I am so prone 00:20:31.709 --> 00:20:38.706 to letting myself do. And so, um. So that was like the one scary moment 00:20:38.739 --> 00:20:40.996 and then she was like, OK, she's like, her heart rate's getting back 00:20:41.029 --> 00:20:43.597 better. She's like, we'll just have you staying in this position till he 00:20:43.630 --> 00:20:47.956 comes. So he came and, um, I the whole time we were always joking like 00:20:47.989 --> 00:20:50.436 saying that he was going to be the guy that would be passing out if he was 00:20:50.469 --> 00:20:56.075 watching her come out and he did awesome. Like he was just like down there 00:20:56.108 --> 00:20:59.795 watching like this is the most amazing thing ever, like so encouraging and 00:20:59.828 --> 00:21:03.926 you could just like tell he had like so much joy and like. Just like 00:21:03.959 --> 00:21:06.847 disbelief, like oh my gosh, our daughter's gonna be here soon. So that was 00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:11.766 , that was a special special moment. And so she came out and she was a 00:21:11.799 --> 00:21:17.137 screaming healthy baby. Like I think I forget what that scale is that they 00:21:17.170 --> 00:21:23.147 measure it on, um, but she was 9.8 out of 10, so she was very, very like 00:21:23.180 --> 00:21:30.006 healthy baby right off the bat. And so she was 7 pounds 10 ounces, no 95 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:37.565 pound baby, which was good. Um, and 20.5 inches long and um 426 is when 00:21:37.598 --> 00:21:41.877 she was born. So it happened fast for me, it happened fast because it was 00:21:41.910 --> 00:21:45.857 like going from zero contractions that morning to like a baby in your 00:21:45.890 --> 00:21:50.717 hands at 4:30 in the afternoon. It was just a surreal experience. It was 00:21:50.750 --> 00:21:54.107 awesome. And I don't even know how to describe it. It's like the first 00:21:54.140 --> 00:21:57.516 time you see her, it's like. I don't know, it was the coolest thing ever 00:21:57.549 --> 00:22:00.795 because also with the ultrasounds previously, they do ones where they can 00:22:00.828 --> 00:22:04.156 like do the 3D where you can see their like facial features and stuff. 00:22:04.189 --> 00:22:07.035 Every single ultrasound that we have with her, she'd have her hands over 00:22:07.068 --> 00:22:10.756 her face, which was, it was annoying at the times we're like we want to 00:22:10.789 --> 00:22:13.117 see what she looks like, but then at the same sense we're like, no, it 00:22:13.150 --> 00:22:16.637 kind of makes it fun because it's like total surprise then we had no idea 00:22:16.670 --> 00:22:19.236 like what she was gonna look like when. She came out even though we knew 00:22:19.269 --> 00:22:22.967 she was going to be a girl, so it's still like partial surprise so she was 00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:27.016 beautiful, absolutely beautiful, and just like she had so much hair. I 00:22:27.049 --> 00:22:30.107 remember not a ton of hair compared to other babies, but I thought she was 00:22:30.140 --> 00:22:32.746 gonna be a bald baby like because I didn't have any of those old wives' 00:22:32.779 --> 00:22:36.166 tales of like heartburn or all those things supposedly tell you if your 00:22:36.199 --> 00:22:39.847 baby's gonna have hair. She had hair. That was like, I was like, oh my 00:22:39.880 --> 00:22:44.377 gosh, I don't have a bald baby. This is great. 00:22:44.410 --> 00:22:51.075 And so, um, they were doing all their stuff like her um putting her on the 00:22:51.108 --> 00:22:55.035 scale and like just checking her out doing all that stuff right after and 00:22:55.068 --> 00:22:58.976 Ian had his camera out, so he's taking pictures and um the lady was like, 00:22:59.009 --> 00:23:01.335 Well, let me get a picture and she's like, Wait, she's like, it's flashing 00:23:01.368 --> 00:23:05.236 at me, no card. And we're like, you've got to be kidding me. So he had 00:23:05.269 --> 00:23:10.226 left, he had cleared off the memory card. In our computer the night before 00:23:10.259 --> 00:23:15.756 and the little stick was still in our iMac and I'm like, oh gosh. 00:23:15.789 --> 00:23:18.486 So, but if one thing had to go bad, at least it was that, and we still had 00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:21.847 our cell phones. So I remember our first family picture, which is like my 00:23:21.880 --> 00:23:27.766 favorite picture ever now cause Aspen is like a little tiny peanut and um 00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:32.516 our doctor ended up taking the picture for us on the iPhone. So we didn't 00:23:32.549 --> 00:23:36.397 get any of those other pictures, which I was a little upset about, but 00:23:36.430 --> 00:23:39.986 looking back, like, it's totally fine. I'd rather that be the hiccup than 00:23:40.019 --> 00:23:43.516 something more serious. So, we have it in our memory, and that's the 00:23:43.549 --> 00:23:51.166 important part. And so. Yeah, it was crazy, so crazy and so fun. Did you 00:23:51.199 --> 00:23:56.325 um nurse or what was the experience after? So I wanted to nurse and do 00:23:56.358 --> 00:24:01.887 breastfeeding and that prior breastfeeding was like such a scary thing to 00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:05.766 me because it's like, OK, they gave me books at the doctor's office and I 00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:09.766 even talked with a lactation consultant before. And because my doctor's 00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:12.877 like, talk to a lactation consultant. He's like, it can be helpful with 00:24:12.910 --> 00:24:18.607 that. And I remember I had had a lump removed from my right breast um the 00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:22.706 year before I gave birth. And so I always had that in my mind too, like 00:24:22.739 --> 00:24:26.746 what is that gonna, you know, affect me being able to breastfeed. And I 00:24:26.779 --> 00:24:30.387 wanted to breastfeed really badly and so I just had a lot of fears and 00:24:30.420 --> 00:24:33.545 anxiety around that whole thing. So it's like everyone builds that up and 00:24:33.578 --> 00:24:37.565 it's like, OK, so the nurse, like I remember like handed her to me and 00:24:37.598 --> 00:24:41.226 she's like, OK, she's like, go ahead and start nursing. And I remember I 00:24:41.259 --> 00:24:44.585 was just like, I don't even know what to do. Like I have this baby. I 00:24:44.618 --> 00:24:49.085 don't even remember how to hold a baby and then I'm like this is just very. 00:24:49.118 --> 00:24:52.035 It's just uncomfortable because I'm like I don't know what I'm doing. And 00:24:52.068 --> 00:24:55.156 I remember the nurse, she was very sweet and was just like, OK, she's like 00:24:55.189 --> 00:24:58.117 , it's very natural. She's like the babies, like they just know what 00:24:58.150 --> 00:25:02.416 they're doing. It's instinct. And so she was helping me do it and it 00:25:02.449 --> 00:25:08.357 clicked like Aspen and I just end up we had different nursing troubles as 00:25:08.390 --> 00:25:13.196 weeks went on. But the initial, it was milk came in and it clicked and it 00:25:13.229 --> 00:25:17.075 worked, which was awesome. Then we got to deal with other things like 00:25:17.108 --> 00:25:23.276 oversupply and then low supply, and then her being allergic to any dairy, 00:25:23.309 --> 00:25:27.597 so I got to go dairy free for 6 months, but I'm still nursing now, and 00:25:27.630 --> 00:25:32.877 it's a year almost, so we made it through it. But nursing is not easy. I 00:25:32.910 --> 00:25:38.857 know it is for some people, but it's not. It's not. It's not simple. Here 00:25:38.890 --> 00:25:42.555 is really impressive. 00:25:42.588 --> 00:25:48.335 So you couldn't I couldn't consume dairy. Yeah. She was having a lot of, 00:25:48.368 --> 00:25:50.815 because you know they have you wash their diapers and stuff like that. And 00:25:50.848 --> 00:25:56.107 so It was just not normal breastfed baby diaper output and oversupply was 00:25:56.140 --> 00:26:01.867 part of it. And then um it ended up being, she was lactose intolerant too 00:26:01.900 --> 00:26:05.266 for, and they say they outgrow it, and now I'm I'm back on dairy and she 00:26:05.299 --> 00:26:09.986 can have dairy, she loves cheese and she's fine with it. So it's just 00:26:10.019 --> 00:26:12.785 sometimes they have to like, it's too much for their stomach to consume 00:26:12.818 --> 00:26:19.825 with the lactose. So. Who knew? It's fascinating how what you eat impacts 00:26:19.858 --> 00:26:23.607 them through your breasts. Right. Right. It's so true. Like I still can't 00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:27.016 eat broccoli because I know it's going to make her all gassy, and I love 00:26:27.049 --> 00:26:32.186 broccoli. I had to stop eating spinach. Did you? I had this intense 00:26:32.219 --> 00:26:35.627 craving for spinach. It was like the worst thing to tell me I could know. 00:26:35.660 --> 00:26:42.305 Right? It's so so how long did you? to jail. 00:26:42.338 --> 00:26:47.226 But by the 6 months, he really didn't he didn't. And see, that's what I 00:26:47.259 --> 00:26:50.656 wish. I want her to just self-wean herself because I'm like, I don't want 00:26:50.689 --> 00:26:54.666 to, I don't know, it gives me anxiety to for me have to turn it off. I'd 00:26:54.699 --> 00:26:59.026 rather her just naturally be like, OK, granted, if that's like more than 6 00:26:59.059 --> 00:27:02.107 months from now, then I'll take some different steps and a different story 00:27:02.140 --> 00:27:08.706 , but Until then, I'm letting her take control. 00:27:08.739 --> 00:27:12.585 No, it's great. It sounds like you have this really healthy outlook and, 00:27:12.618 --> 00:27:15.785 you know, just a great attitude about the whole experience. It's, I think 00:27:15.818 --> 00:27:22.246 it was the whole fact that it's what we wanted for so long and it was just 00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:25.196 I don't know. It was just like it's happening, like let's just be really 00:27:25.229 --> 00:27:28.555 happy about this. Don't get me wrong, we had our own separate chaos, the 00:27:28.588 --> 00:27:30.785 whole pregnancy we're like trying to get everything done in the house 00:27:30.818 --> 00:27:33.996 because it's like, OK, once the baby comes, like you're not gonna be 00:27:34.029 --> 00:27:37.676 getting anything done. So we had an asbestos scare in our house. We had 00:27:37.709 --> 00:27:40.467 we're trying to tile. We're like living in our living room. It's like a 00:27:40.500 --> 00:27:45.226 one bedroom apartment with our two cats and a golden retriever and me with 00:27:45.259 --> 00:27:51.325 my swollen feet like hanging out in this like tarped off little room. I 00:27:51.358 --> 00:27:58.006 was not a happy camper. I went up 2 ft sizes. Did you? 7 to 90, mine was 00:27:58.039 --> 00:28:02.486 just the width. Thankfully, Target had the most amazing set of flip flop 00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:07.206 shoes that I wore every single day. I had them in white and black, and 00:28:07.239 --> 00:28:10.847 it's funny, I put them on my feet now and they're like so stretched out. I 00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:14.726 like, well, at least I know my feet went back to normal. But it's crazy. 00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:19.045 You don't expect that. Like I could see zero bones on my feet. They were 00:28:19.078 --> 00:28:25.736 just like. Huge. It was embarrassing and my ankles too. I'm like, oh, this 00:28:25.769 --> 00:28:29.137 is awful. So it's lots of long dresses over the summer. Like being 00:28:29.170 --> 00:28:33.805 pregnant in the summer is just brutal here. I remember people were like, 00:28:33.838 --> 00:28:36.526 oh, you will reach because of the whole pregnant. I was like, no, I really 00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:39.805 don't mind being pregnant. It's not that bad. Like it's really not. I'm 00:28:39.838 --> 00:28:44.075 having it like fairly easy considering the other stories that I hear. 00:28:44.108 --> 00:28:46.206 They're like, oh, you'll reach that point. And I'm like, no, I don't 00:28:46.239 --> 00:28:50.127 think I'm going to. Oh, as soon as August hit, I hit that point. Like we 00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:54.166 were going swimming at the pool, like, OK, like just trying to keep active. 00:28:54.199 --> 00:28:56.607 I remember. We went because Target's just down the street. So I remember 00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:58.776 it was the Friday before I gave birth. We're like, what do we do? I'm like 00:28:58.809 --> 00:29:02.045 , let's just go to Target and walk around because they're open till like 00:29:02.078 --> 00:29:05.805 10. So we walked around Target for 2 hours. I don't even know what we did 00:29:05.838 --> 00:29:09.565 there for 2 hours, but it was just like walking. And then that week we 00:29:09.598 --> 00:29:13.285 went to the mall and we're just like walking. It was like that Saturday, 00:29:13.318 --> 00:29:17.926 just walking the mall because it's so hot to go outside. So I couldn't 00:29:17.959 --> 00:29:20.815 just like sit here and do nothing. I'm like, OK, we got to get this thing 00:29:20.848 --> 00:29:24.956 moving, especially after hearing your doctor be like, oh yeah. Baby's 00:29:24.989 --> 00:29:28.916 gonna come this weekend and then it's like weeks keep going. At least I 00:29:28.949 --> 00:29:33.176 didn't go past my birthday. That I was not, that's the thing I was 00:29:33.209 --> 00:29:35.696 stressing about. I'm like, I don't want to have to be induced. I didn't 00:29:35.729 --> 00:29:40.016 want that to happen. So thankfully it didn't happen, thankfully. Because 00:29:40.049 --> 00:29:42.256 they're like, Well, you should start feeling like, you know, some 00:29:42.289 --> 00:29:45.535 contractions like leaning into it and I wasn't feeling anything. So I'm 00:29:45.568 --> 00:29:53.568 just like, oh no. But she came a day early. Can't can't go wrong with that. 00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:57.647 No, it sounds like you had a really actually quite a good experience. I 00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:01.256 would have had a lot more anger and resentment over the doctor visit 00:30:01.289 --> 00:30:06.276 personally, I think. Looking back now, I just find it to be very humorous. 00:30:06.309 --> 00:30:09.717 The day of being in it, I was like, oh, like you've got to be kidding me. 00:30:09.750 --> 00:30:13.147 Why am I getting an ultrasound? Like, hook me up to the machine first. 00:30:13.180 --> 00:30:16.397 Tell me if it's legit. And then if it's not, OK, I'll suck it up and go 00:30:16.430 --> 00:30:20.426 through the ultrasound, but not, not when I'm having contractions like 00:30:20.459 --> 00:30:24.901 laying on the. table and her doing all her little measurements and it's 00:30:24.934 --> 00:30:28.581 like you'll measure the head in like 8 hours when it's out of my body. 00:30:28.614 --> 00:30:32.331 Right, right. And the fact that it's that far down there means that it's, 00:30:32.364 --> 00:30:35.781 you know, this is legit. Like, let's keep this moving. Like you do not 00:30:35.814 --> 00:30:40.815 have to be a perfectionist at this measurement right now. I, I wish she 00:30:40.848 --> 00:30:44.137 would have kept that weight comment to herself, because that's definitely 00:30:44.170 --> 00:30:48.325 was in my head for a while. I'm just like 9.5 pounds. Like, what's going 00:30:48.358 --> 00:30:50.496 on? 00:30:50.529 --> 00:30:54.897 No, I'm like, that is a big baby. And then I'm thinking, I'm like, OK, at 00:30:54.930 --> 00:30:58.815 my last weight check for myself, I gained an extra 1 pound. So is that her 00:30:58.848 --> 00:31:02.476 , not me? So I'm thinking. 00:31:02.509 --> 00:31:07.117 Well, but she wasn't. She's completely normal size for what I was 00:31:07.150 --> 00:31:13.256 expecting, so it was good. So we've been asking women, as you've been kind 00:31:13.289 --> 00:31:18.127 of categorizing these into themes, if they can kind of come up with a word 00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:23.236 or a phrasing of words that kind of encompasses their experience. That's 00:31:23.269 --> 00:31:31.269 challenging question. That is a very challenging. 00:31:31.489 --> 00:31:35.325 It's OK. Mine, I'm surprised mine hasn't. If you might have to edit that 00:31:35.358 --> 00:31:38.847 out. 00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:44.627 There's not going to be a lot though. Um, 00:31:44.660 --> 00:31:51.035 I don't know. I would say that we are just very like. We felt very blessed 00:31:51.068 --> 00:31:55.137 and like. Hopeful 00:31:55.170 --> 00:31:57.506 And I don't this is probably not even exactly what you're looking for, but 00:31:57.539 --> 00:32:00.045 I just remember the whole time we were just saying like we want her to be 00:32:00.078 --> 00:32:03.526 healthy and happy. Like those were the two words that like we both just 00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:06.847 kept focusing on like health was like our number one thing. Like we just 00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:12.607 wanted to have a healthy baby and then just to all be happy. So. Does that 00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:18.607 answer your question? OK. Yeah. It sounds like you got that. Yeah, so far 00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:23.285 , yes, she is an awesome little baby. She is very happy too. And so far, 00:32:23.318 --> 00:32:27.006 knock on wood, she's been healthy too. So it's good. It's all you can hope 00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:31.607 for. It's true. It's so true. So many other things just do not matter. And 00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:34.446 I think that kind of puts it into perspective. The whole pregnancy thing 00:32:34.479 --> 00:32:38.847 does. And it's just, it's amazing to go through and it's like such a 00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:42.565 personal thing for each person too, and it's like, each story is so 00:32:42.598 --> 00:32:47.127 different and uh. It's just fascinating. It's like, oh my gosh, what our 00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:50.967 bodies can do and just like how everything's like a week by week basis and 00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:55.085 it's like, oh my gosh, they're developing this. It's just, it's crazy what 00:32:55.118 --> 00:32:59.565 the human body can do. It's amazing. It really truly is. And then it's 00:32:59.598 --> 00:33:03.967 like at the end you've got this little baby that's both you and your 00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:09.926 significant other, and it's just an amazing thing. So yes. 00:33:09.959 --> 00:33:13.446 I think that's great. It's true. I was obsessed with that like week by 00:33:13.479 --> 00:33:17.239 week you'd see like it's true what size.