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 A great labor. Mrs. Conklin, I was married. This is my last year in Johns

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Hopkins. I was married. Mrs. Conklin
was my amanuensis. And she wrote it

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all out for me. As I dictated it

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and

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I submitted it all to Brooks with the
plates. I had 8 or 10 plates made

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with pen and ink. And uh Brooks took
it Took it home with him, kept it for

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several days, brought it back. Well,
he said. I don't know what to say

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about this.

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He said, I don't know where in the
world you can ever print this. There's

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no place. We have no money. Morgan has
used up all the money allotted to

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the biology department. And In his
work on pyno. He said, We've got no

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money. We can't help you in printing
it. And we've got to have 100 copies.

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 As a thesis

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I don't know where in the world you
can print it.

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Said I don't know that it's worth
printing.

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And There is no

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Logical importance.

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In the mere duplication of parts. Cell
division is merely a duplication of

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parts.

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And there's no morphological
significance in it.

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That was his thesis.

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Well, The result was that he came back
to see me after several.

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Well, The result was that he came back
to see me after several. In

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interviews

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in which there were always a half
dozen students in the room. We didn't

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have individual rooms. We were all
thrown together, our gra graduate

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students. And

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Finally, he came back and he said,
Well, Martin Compton. I've decided.

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That this university has given
doctor's degrees. For counting words.

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In ancient languages for counting
words.

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I don't know why they might not give
one degree for counting sales.

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Well That ended And it was accepted
for a doctoral thesis and a

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preliminary note did appear at that at
that time.

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And I sent. And To the anatomer onyer.

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Uh, which, uh, published it. On the
early A cleavage Of the egg of

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crepituulla with this. Definite
separation of the germinal layer material.

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 Into these few cells.

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Well, it was. Better regarded by the
public than by Brooks.

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And I went back to Johns Hopkins. In
1891.

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To the same table. At the fish
commission.

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To continue the work. To a later stage
of, of the development.

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And

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One of the first few weeks. At to

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Which hole?

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I, I was wrong in saying I had met
Wilson. At the previous summer, I

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hadn't. I had never met Wilson. Until
my 2nd summer at Woods Hole.

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And uh Water say,

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who was a graduate student at the
Johns Hopkins and who knew about my work.

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 To Wilson. Of what I was doing.

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Well, Wilson was intensely interested.
And he asked Sent word over asking

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to make an appointment for the next
Sunday morning. And on Sunday morning

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next, he came over with his drawings.
Of the cell lineage of Nerius. Of

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course, it wasn't called that. The
cell lineage of Nereus was one of the

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later things in the development of the
paper.

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Well,

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I never spent such a forenoon in my
life. As I did that with Wilson. And

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we went over these things. The whole
of the ectoderm. In 12 cells, the

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same in Nereus, but in Caidulla,
spread out on a plate. In near use in the

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sphere, much more difficult to follow.
So much plainer. In crepiulla,

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everything out on a plate. And finally

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The Meeder. In one cell. The 4D,

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well, that simply capped the climax.
And then, of course. We were

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following the individual ectomirs, the
various cells as far as we could.

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And I gave Wilson. Had just been
appointed. To his position at Columbia

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University. He had been for 5 years,
professor of biology at Johns Hopkins

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University. I know. At Bryn Mawr
College. And uh

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He was greatly admired there as a
teacher. He was a prince of teachers.

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And he had just gone to Columbia with
the understanding. That his first

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year was to be spent in Europe.

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And I had made Arrangements.

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Just before I got my doctor's degree.
To go out to the Ohio Wesleyan

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University, my old college where I had
graduated 6 years before. And had

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taught for 3 years in the interval.
And then had spent 3 years at Johns

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Hopkins.

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I had made arrangements to go there.
And start A laboratory, they had no

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laboratory.

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Of biology.

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I had to equip everything, take a bare
room. Get tables and put in sinks.

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And lockers And all that sort of
thing. And I had to organize. I didn't

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have to, but I thought I ought to. I I
had a great idea of getting things

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started in a, in a pretty good way.
And I had the advanced students,

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students who I knew a good deal of
biology. Especially Harold Heath. Who

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was uh The finest sort of an
assistant.

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And I had to provide advanced. Courses
for him in zoology. And for half a

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dozen others. And the result of it
was. That to fit my work into the old

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college curriculum.

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To which there had been added. Not a
single professor. In more than 20

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years. I was the first man. In 20
years to be added to the faculty.

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Uh, as a professor.

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Well, everything was terribly
backwards. Awfully hard work. And that was

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my first duty and I worked at it. As
hard as any man ever worked at

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anything.

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And

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I got the work going, going well. But
by going back to Woods Hole, I kept

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in touch with research.

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And This 2nd summer. And the contact
With Wilson brought me in contact

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with Whitman. And Whitman had me in
for a half day. And he said he solved

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one of my problems at once. He said, I
want that for the Journal of

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morphology, which was the finest
publication in morphology in the world at

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that time. My goodness, I took my
breath.

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He said, I want you to do that work
over, making it as perfect as it can

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be made.

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Don't spare the time or the labor. And
we will print it and we'll give you

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the finest lithographic illustrations.

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Well, I'll tell you what. I worked at
that.

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And The result was.

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That I was, uh, the whole of that
summer. of 91.

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Uh, when Wilson and I were both at
Woods Hole, I was getting my paper into

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shape. And during the following winter
and spring. And In 1892.

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Uh The work went, went ahead. And grew
and grew and grew. I was afraid.

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That it would be turned down. It was
bigger than it need have been.

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There's just no question. It could
have been cut down.

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But it turned out to be some 240 or
250 printed pages in length. With 9

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lithographic plates in 3 or 4 colors.

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And

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It was a book and literally was a
book. Occupy the full number. Of the

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Journal of Morphology. And was one of
the things that caused the collapse

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of the journal. Yeah.

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Well.

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Then the question was to get it
printed. And gaining company. In spite of

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the plate, the fact that the plates
were all made by Werner and Vinter. I

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don't know that they were made before.
1893.

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But about that time they were made.
And I had the proofs.

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But uh but uh again and company said
they would be, they would lose $2000

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on printing that number and they
couldn't afford it. And In the meantime,

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I did everything I could.

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To increase the subscriptions to the
Journal of Morphology. And

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To do what I could to help get in
company. In their difficulties, Whitman

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took no interest in such things. He,
he said to me on one occasion. When I

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said my goodness, Whitman. That'll
take a mint of money. Great God, he

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said, what's money for?

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That was his attitude

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and it's it was a pretty good
attitude.

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Well, that's a good chapter. I don't
you? Yes, it's all.

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Oh.