You know, we talked about, you know, incoming new students to really get
involved in campus life and you obviously did. But um what kind of advice
would you have for students coming in now in terms of campus involvement?
I, I still think it's hugely important. Um I think one of the huge
advantages to a su is that you can do anything and be anything and because
we do have that breadth and depth and so really think about, you know,
what, you know, what, what your values are, what your interests are and
then pursue that because you're gonna find anything that you want here and
you're missing a great opportunity if you don't take advantage of that. Um
I really didn't realize that I kind of fell into it in some ways. I mean,
I was a little bit involved in high school, not that much because uh again
, I came from a single parent home and I had family duties with my younger
siblings. So I couldn't do a lot of after school school things. But um but
I, I was a really, you know, obviously a good student and um so when I
came to u I kind of fell into that and I was really shy when I, when I
came, believe it or not. Uh I tell people I'm a trained extrovert, um,
which I think is really true. So I would say just not, you don't be afraid
, uh, and just step out there and, and look for the things that you think
are gonna give you some, uh really um learning experiences and, you know,
build you as a person. I tell people all the time who I am as a leader and
a manager. So much of that started as an undergraduate. So much of that,
it gives you an opportunity to, to learn and to model and to identify
mentors and make mistakes. And, you know, I've learned as much from people
um that I've worked for or worked with about what I wanted to be. Um But
also what I didn't want to be, so, unless you put yourself out there,
you're not gonna be able to have those experiences and they're gonna stay
with you. I mean, as I said, a lot of the stuff that I learned was when I
was 18 and 19 years old.