WEBVTT 00:00:03.258 --> 00:00:05.258 Um This is Holly Solis interviewing Monica Keys uh for the Undocumented 00:00:08.500 --> 00:00:13.255 Voices Project on April 28th 2015. 00:00:13.288 --> 00:00:16.806 OK. Um Could you just to start out? Could you just tell me where you're 00:00:16.839 --> 00:00:24.105 from? Yeah, I'm from Rido So New Mexico. OK. Um So when did you come to um 00:00:24.138 --> 00:00:30.206 Arizona in a XU? Um 2011? OK. How did you come over? Like what brought you 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:34.406 over here? Uh My dad's always lived here and then I came here for a 00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:38.616 graduate program. Uh What graduate program is that the higher ed um 00:00:38.649 --> 00:00:43.176 masters in higher education program? OK. Um What do you do now? Uh now I'm 00:00:43.209 --> 00:00:47.606 an academic advisor for um undecided students essentially. Uh Can you 00:00:47.639 --> 00:00:54.106 explain exactly what you do? Uh Yeah. So um help freshman and sophomore 00:00:54.139 --> 00:00:57.737 students either as they're selecting their majors and making sure that 00:00:57.770 --> 00:01:00.807 they're working towards classes that are going to keep them on track to a 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:05.257 four year graduation while being able to explore, you know, everything 00:01:05.290 --> 00:01:09.897 from engineering to creative writing or whatever, you know, all 380 majors 00:01:09.930 --> 00:01:15.686 we have. OK. Have you um have you encountered any undocumented students 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:21.647 within that kind of work. 00:01:21.680 --> 00:01:27.447 I have not. Um No, I've been in this position. I just um for one year and 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:33.087 like two days now. So in, in this position, no, I haven't not in my like 00:01:33.120 --> 00:01:36.036 daily day to day. I mean, of course, through dream zone and stuff like 00:01:36.069 --> 00:01:41.337 that, but not through my job. At least none that have just closed to me. 00:01:41.370 --> 00:01:46.316 Um So what brought you into the movement? What brought you to Dream Zone? 00:01:46.349 --> 00:01:48.397 Um 00:01:48.430 --> 00:01:53.906 OK, so I was working with international students when I first moved here, 00:01:53.939 --> 00:01:58.805 I was doing um helping um schools around the US recruit international 00:01:58.838 --> 00:02:05.296 students from Latin America specifically. And um I was um before that I 00:02:05.329 --> 00:02:09.585 was living in Washington DC and I had done some advocacy work in the LGBT 00:02:09.618 --> 00:02:13.495 community, which so I kind of had a little bit of advocacy background, but 00:02:13.528 --> 00:02:18.827 I wasn't really doing it anymore. Um And then I came here and um was still 00:02:18.860 --> 00:02:21.366 doing my recruiting job and then I was going to school here as well. And 00:02:21.399 --> 00:02:25.636 then I heard about the Dream Zone project. Um But through my work with 00:02:25.669 --> 00:02:28.896 international students, I was involved in um there's an organization 00:02:28.929 --> 00:02:34.055 called NAF SA and it's NAFS A and it's the Association of International 00:02:34.088 --> 00:02:38.987 Educators and they had a project called the Grassroots Leadership Program. 00:02:39.020 --> 00:02:44.816 And um it was essentially um helping to advocate for uh issues that 00:02:44.849 --> 00:02:49.047 international students face and a small part of that. It's mostly, you 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:51.946 know, things like visa issues and things like that. But of course, 00:02:51.979 --> 00:02:55.327 undocumented students fall under that. And then having so I just started 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:59.267 that program when I had moved here, it's like a year long program. So then 00:02:59.300 --> 00:03:02.166 I came across Dream Zone and I was like, oh, wow, this is, you know, they 00:03:02.199 --> 00:03:05.596 had just, I went to the second session that they offered, I think it was 00:03:05.629 --> 00:03:09.207 in like January of 2012. And then I would just, I kind of did more 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:12.835 research into the, into what was happening and, you know, it's a much more 00:03:12.868 --> 00:03:18.406 visible issue here than, than I had been exposed to before. Um So, yeah, I 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:22.186 just became kind of like, I can't believe I'm living, you know, in this 00:03:22.219 --> 00:03:27.346 community with community members who are so blatantly uh you know, 00:03:27.379 --> 00:03:34.656 discriminated against or um disadvantaged for, you know, really, no um 00:03:34.689 --> 00:03:37.957 good reason. Not that there's ever a good reason, but you know what I mean 00:03:37.990 --> 00:03:42.126 for, you know, they, they've been here for just as long as longer than I 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:47.775 have in this state anyway. So, yeah. Um So could you talk a little bit 00:03:47.808 --> 00:03:51.856 more about the grassroots leadership program and how that relates to 00:03:51.889 --> 00:03:58.196 undocumented youth or undocumented? Uh um So 00:03:58.229 --> 00:04:03.286 there was, there was four or five issues that um so we were a selected 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:07.386 group of like 11 individuals throughout the country, all who work with 00:04:07.419 --> 00:04:11.446 international students and we had five, kind of federal issues that we 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:19.479 were advocating for. Um, a lot of one was like, um, I can butcher one, for 00:04:21.500 --> 00:04:26.046 instance, one of them was like, um, lifting the cap on green cards because 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:33.245 more than half of green cards go to, um, uh, family members of those who 00:04:33.278 --> 00:04:36.817 are actually, 00:04:36.850 --> 00:04:39.555 yeah, and looking the cap on green cards because more than, more than half 00:04:39.588 --> 00:04:43.197 of them go to just family members, not the actual individual. So there's 00:04:43.230 --> 00:04:47.086 kind of a, you know, people always had a, a pretty serious gap there and 00:04:47.119 --> 00:04:49.846 then um 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:55.036 oh, the other issues were again like, um you know, helping students to not 00:04:55.069 --> 00:04:58.596 have to visit their visa office every time they came back from the US. So 00:04:58.629 --> 00:05:01.676 basically things to help, help make it easier for international students 00:05:01.709 --> 00:05:08.265 to study in the US. But part of that also was um 00:05:08.298 --> 00:05:12.137 it was just kind of immigration issues in general and that, that fit into 00:05:12.170 --> 00:05:16.486 that fit into it that way. So I mean, considering that undocumented 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:21.856 students are quote unquote international, I saw that as a way to a part of 00:05:21.889 --> 00:05:27.786 something that I wanted to focus on. Um So to go back to Dream zone, what 00:05:27.819 --> 00:05:33.325 uh what is dream zone can you describe what dream zone is for us? It's um 00:05:33.358 --> 00:05:39.137 an ally program to it's a program to create allies and safe spaces for any 00:05:39.170 --> 00:05:44.776 underrepresented group. Well, it, it was adapted from safe zone, which is 00:05:44.809 --> 00:05:49.995 um kind of the same program for um anyone in the LGBT community. So it's 00:05:50.028 --> 00:05:53.596 kind of in the same way that that program creates safe spaces and allies 00:05:53.629 --> 00:05:58.656 for the LGBT community. It was to create those things for anyone in the 00:05:58.689 --> 00:06:03.717 undocumented community at A SU OK. And who is Dream Zone for um students, 00:06:03.750 --> 00:06:09.166 faculty staff, anyone associated with a SU. But it's also reached well 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:12.887 beyond a SU two different universities and different high schools and 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:16.955 community organizations, things like that. Uh Can you talk to me about um 00:06:16.988 --> 00:06:23.176 how Dream Zone has um reached out into other universities and high schools 00:06:23.209 --> 00:06:29.995 ? Yeah. Um so universities came about, um uh there's many of us have 00:06:30.028 --> 00:06:33.036 presented at different conferences. I presented at a NASA regional 00:06:33.069 --> 00:06:38.426 conference in Montana. And, you know, we had um just about what the 00:06:38.459 --> 00:06:43.586 program is and what it means and, you know, I implications that different 00:06:43.619 --> 00:06:50.106 um schools can consider for their own use. Um So, um that's how their 00:06:50.139 --> 00:06:53.325 universities find out about it mostly and then some find out about it just 00:06:53.358 --> 00:06:56.726 from, you know, doing research and they kind of stumbled upon this program. 00:06:56.759 --> 00:07:01.336 Um Also, I don't know if you've, I think you've already talked to Davie, 00:07:01.369 --> 00:07:06.765 but um he put together a proposal and we got some recognition for the um 00:07:06.798 --> 00:07:10.666 national to Global Clinton Initiative, Clinton Global Initiative, 00:07:10.699 --> 00:07:14.245 University Award, whatever. And that kind of took it to a national stage 00:07:14.278 --> 00:07:19.627 and I think that brought some attention. Um, and then high schools, um, 00:07:19.660 --> 00:07:24.305 we've actually been reached out to, by high schools. Um, I, I'm not sure 00:07:24.338 --> 00:07:27.995 how each of them found out about it. I think they're different. We're kind 00:07:28.028 --> 00:07:32.015 of involved in different community organizations, you know, like ad ac and 00:07:32.048 --> 00:07:37.596 all, you know, um, quip and I don't know if you, yeah, so a lot of those 00:07:37.629 --> 00:07:41.796 different organizations kind of work together and spread the word that way. 00:07:41.829 --> 00:07:46.495 Um What is your involvement with yours or Dream Zones? Involvement with 00:07:46.528 --> 00:07:52.325 ad ac and a zip and organizations like that? Um You know, definitely 00:07:52.358 --> 00:07:58.236 support each other, serve as a resource anytime we can. Um I think each uh 00:07:58.269 --> 00:08:03.007 groove kind of serves a, a little bit of a different segment. So if, you 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:06.447 know, if there's someone who's involved in AD A who is looking to do 00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:09.955 something at a SU or has questions about a SU, you know, usually they'll 00:08:09.988 --> 00:08:16.916 refer them to Dream Zone and, you know, kind of vice versa or um And what 00:08:16.949 --> 00:08:21.567 was the second part of that question? Uh Just how um actually you answered 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:26.947 that question. Um Yeah. So um you talk about uh if anybody needs resources 00:08:26.980 --> 00:08:31.197 , they go to Dream zone, what kinds of resources do you give those people 00:08:31.230 --> 00:08:36.726 who come to you? Um We have some links on our website, just general like 00:08:36.759 --> 00:08:41.566 different scholarship links, um um instructions on even like how to read 00:08:41.599 --> 00:08:47.066 your D A like um kind of various across the board, anything that an 00:08:47.099 --> 00:08:52.145 undocumented student might need. Um Then um I think the biggest resource 00:08:52.178 --> 00:08:55.717 we give is the list of allies that are associated who have been through 00:08:55.750 --> 00:08:58.856 the program, who have at least some awareness and a little bit of 00:08:58.889 --> 00:09:03.086 knowledge and then work in different sectors of the university. So you can 00:09:03.119 --> 00:09:07.946 actually do a search by campus, by university department and even by name 00:09:07.979 --> 00:09:11.846 if you want, but there's um 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:16.385 I forget how many allies I used to know that five to I think five or 600 00:09:16.418 --> 00:09:20.677 maybe something like that. Yeah. And so that's, I think that is probably 00:09:20.710 --> 00:09:24.356 the biggest thing we offer is having those names published on the web for 00:09:24.389 --> 00:09:31.446 anyone and their contact info. Um 00:09:31.479 --> 00:09:34.537 So 00:09:34.570 --> 00:09:42.570 let me see it. Um So uh I've heard that dream zone um invites undocumented 00:09:42.690 --> 00:09:45.297 students that go to a su to tell their stories. Can you tell me a little 00:09:45.330 --> 00:09:53.330 bit about that? Yeah. Um So it comes in, there's the program has four 00:09:54.200 --> 00:10:00.106 parts um kind of awareness of the issues um or awareness of like the 00:10:00.139 --> 00:10:03.336 community, kind of what's happening, knowledge of what some of the issues 00:10:03.369 --> 00:10:06.967 are. And then the third part is where students, you know, we invite 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:11.236 students in firsthand to kind of tell their stories and put a human face 00:10:11.269 --> 00:10:14.346 on it. And I think that's, that was the most powerful part of the 00:10:14.379 --> 00:10:19.025 presentation when I went to it and it still is. I think every time I, I 00:10:19.058 --> 00:10:24.226 facilitate one and I think a lot of it is because, um, a lot of staff and 00:10:24.259 --> 00:10:27.616 faculty, I mean, you can't, how do you know if someone's undocumented? 00:10:27.649 --> 00:10:31.385 They don't like where, you know, like you just, it's just putting a face 00:10:31.418 --> 00:10:38.427 on an issue that's seemed so, um, hot button or like, you know, there are 00:10:38.460 --> 00:10:42.336 these people who have been labeled by some people as being illegal like 00:10:42.369 --> 00:10:45.836 these uh you know, of course we say that, you know, humans can't be 00:10:45.869 --> 00:10:49.566 illegal. You know, they're simply don't have the documents that are 00:10:49.599 --> 00:10:54.366 required at this moment. But um I think it's just kind of this, you know, 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:57.005 like, wow, that's a, that's a person that I've heard so much about, but 00:10:57.038 --> 00:11:00.275 maybe these people have never met anyone who's undocumented. So just 00:11:00.308 --> 00:11:04.515 putting that actual face on it and especially some of the stories are, 00:11:04.548 --> 00:11:09.446 yeah, some of the most powerful um what were the other parts of the dream 00:11:09.479 --> 00:11:16.677 film? And so the last episode, um Knowledge Awareness. Um and then the, 00:11:16.710 --> 00:11:21.736 the stories of the third part and then um uh putting those, all those 00:11:21.769 --> 00:11:25.717 attributes to action. Like these are, these are some steps you can take uh 00:11:25.750 --> 00:11:28.996 what kinds of in the knowledge section. What kinds of things do you tell 00:11:29.029 --> 00:11:35.686 um people in the workshop, um different terminology, you know, what, what 00:11:35.719 --> 00:11:42.467 is DACA? When did it pass like, what's the history of it? Um different uh 00:11:42.500 --> 00:11:46.356 local state and federal legislation that could affect any undocumented 00:11:46.389 --> 00:11:49.316 students. Um 00:11:49.349 --> 00:11:51.907 um 00:11:51.940 --> 00:11:56.196 Things like, um you know, can a student who has been issued DACA study 00:11:56.229 --> 00:12:03.496 abroad? Yes or no, just kind of some basic again, like terminology and um 00:12:03.529 --> 00:12:09.326 uh up to date issues, I guess. Uh Have you had any push back when you talk 00:12:09.359 --> 00:12:14.446 about terminology um using the word dream or dreamer in, in your workshops 00:12:14.479 --> 00:12:19.586 or push back like um like an audience member or from an undocumented 00:12:19.619 --> 00:12:24.157 student that shares their story? Um Has there been any kind of tension 00:12:24.190 --> 00:12:31.866 with the word dreamer? Not that I've heard. No. Um 00:12:31.899 --> 00:12:38.076 So have you taken part in any action on campus or any kinds of um kind of 00:12:38.109 --> 00:12:40.616 demonstrations or anything like that? Uh that has to deal with the 00:12:40.649 --> 00:12:47.217 undocumented youth movement? Mhm. Um Yeah, just today. Um they had a uh 00:12:47.250 --> 00:12:54.236 kind of a little demonstration about tuition. Um Abor has recently, I 00:12:54.269 --> 00:12:59.255 think just today or yesterday, I know they've um instituted a policy that 00:12:59.288 --> 00:13:05.696 students with DACA can get tuition at 100 and 50% of in state. And so this 00:13:05.729 --> 00:13:09.787 demonstration was um asking for, you know, for basically saying tuition 00:13:09.820 --> 00:13:16.057 equality is 1 to 1. It's not 150 you know, it's 100%. Um so that, and then 00:13:16.090 --> 00:13:24.090 various things out the community, there was um uh a, a protest whenever 00:13:24.808 --> 00:13:30.625 the attorney general was suing Maricopa Community Colleges for um to try 00:13:30.658 --> 00:13:34.287 to take away in state tuition for undocumented students. And I 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:37.696 participated in a few of those. Uh can you tell me a little bit more about 00:13:37.729 --> 00:13:41.177 that? Like, what, what happened during these demonstrations? What you saw 00:13:41.210 --> 00:13:43.476 experienced? 00:13:43.509 --> 00:13:48.836 Yeah. So um a lot of them were just at the Attorney General's office and 00:13:48.869 --> 00:13:54.157 um you know, it was actually through um a different organization that I 00:13:54.190 --> 00:13:57.246 heard about it, but it was people all from, all around the community, from 00:13:57.279 --> 00:14:01.736 the faith community, from um kind of the political community, kind of just 00:14:01.769 --> 00:14:08.476 different bases. And um we would, so one of the ones I went to um some of 00:14:08.509 --> 00:14:12.145 the um there were some undocumented students who, you know, were burning 00:14:12.178 --> 00:14:16.246 kind of fake copies of their diplomas and, and dressed in, you know, 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:20.395 graduation gear and just saying, you know, I'm in community college right 00:14:20.428 --> 00:14:23.907 now and this is what this could be taken away from me and things like that. 00:14:23.940 --> 00:14:31.940 Um And it was kind of more or less a sit in, in the lobby. Um A couple of 00:14:32.250 --> 00:14:37.677 us may have gotten detained but just because we didn't leave whenever it 00:14:37.710 --> 00:14:44.015 was closing time. So, um so you actually took part in the actual sit in? 00:14:44.048 --> 00:14:48.505 Mhm OK. Um How did you, and you said that you heard about through an 00:14:48.538 --> 00:14:56.538 organization? Do you remember the organization that was um yes um CB A uh 00:14:56.558 --> 00:15:02.356 citizens for better Arizona. And I'd actually heard about it through the 00:15:02.389 --> 00:15:05.667 Dream zone colleague. 00:15:05.700 --> 00:15:09.576 Um And how do you hear about events like this? Is it social media, through 00:15:09.609 --> 00:15:16.746 word of mouth usually? Um that one was through word of mouth and then I 00:15:16.779 --> 00:15:19.856 joined, you know, joined their social media and that's how I learned about 00:15:19.889 --> 00:15:25.677 future events too. Um Can you tell me a little bit more about the tuition 00:15:25.710 --> 00:15:33.710 um the tension about tuition at a su at the moment? Um So recently, when 00:15:33.979 --> 00:15:41.226 um DACA was passed a few years ago now, um the Maricopa community colleges 00:15:41.259 --> 00:15:48.667 um agreed to uh consider uh a work permit enough of a proof that the, the 00:15:48.700 --> 00:15:53.967 student is in state and whereas that was never in the abor policy, so 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:57.265 universities can't quite adopt that they would have to take some sort of 00:15:57.298 --> 00:16:03.316 action on their own. Um There's been a lot of back and forth. Um uh you 00:16:03.349 --> 00:16:08.856 know, since DACA came through with that and um ever since uh proposition 00:16:08.889 --> 00:16:13.346 300 passed in 2006, that's what took away in state tuition from 00:16:13.379 --> 00:16:18.557 undocumented students. Um I'm sorry, I don't know if, I don't know if you 00:16:18.590 --> 00:16:24.667 know this or I don't know. OK, just tell me what. Um So, so yeah, since 00:16:24.700 --> 00:16:28.645 2006 has been the main, the huge issue of in state tuition no longer being 00:16:28.678 --> 00:16:32.936 available to those individuals like um specifically 00:16:32.969 --> 00:16:39.717 uh excluding them actually. And so um, it's kind of just in the same and 00:16:39.750 --> 00:16:44.167 then just yesterday or today is when it was brought down a little bit, you 00:16:44.200 --> 00:16:50.467 know, but not really sufficiently for what I can gather. Um, the, at the, 00:16:50.500 --> 00:16:53.476 have you been to any of the, a board meetings that have to deal with this 00:16:53.509 --> 00:16:59.456 tuition? Um, I went to, um, I went to the one just a few weeks ago but I 00:16:59.489 --> 00:17:02.625 wasn't able to go, they're all during the workday, so I wasn't able to go 00:17:02.658 --> 00:17:10.294 during the tuition part. So I'm so I'm not during the tuition part. No. Um 00:17:10.327 --> 00:17:14.044 So have you attended any, like specific organizations events? I know you 00:17:14.077 --> 00:17:16.585 said you went to the demonstration but have you been to any like meetings 00:17:16.618 --> 00:17:22.127 for a ac or anything like that? Um 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:24.967 No, I haven't been in a meeting, something. Have you been to any 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:33.000 organizations meetings? Mm. Not in a while. Um 00:17:33.539 --> 00:17:36.486 I mean, except for citizens for a better Arizona. I've been to a few of 00:17:36.519 --> 00:17:40.706 theirs but, ok. And do they focus, um do they focus a lot on uh 00:17:40.739 --> 00:17:46.805 undocumented issues or is it mostly just a lot of just political? Um The 00:17:46.838 --> 00:17:49.835 ones that I went to were all focused specifically on undocumented, but 00:17:49.868 --> 00:17:53.897 they do a range of other things too, like different politicians, you know 00:17:53.930 --> 00:17:56.026 , 00:17:56.059 --> 00:17:58.936 you know, whatever it is that those politicians are doing wrong trying to 00:17:58.969 --> 00:18:04.867 bring that to light things like that. Um So just to go back to dream zone 00:18:04.900 --> 00:18:09.426 a little bit. Um So why do you think that dream zone is important to a su 00:18:09.459 --> 00:18:15.406 or to the movement in general? Um I think it was the first of its kind, um 00:18:15.439 --> 00:18:19.285 type of organization and I think that people hadn't really thought about 00:18:19.318 --> 00:18:23.266 it. Um So it's, it just brings awareness to an issue that's, you know, 00:18:23.299 --> 00:18:28.926 very, um, I guess, potent or, I don't know what the right word for that is 00:18:28.959 --> 00:18:35.805 but um in, in Arizona, in our community and um I think that it shows 00:18:35.838 --> 00:18:41.097 undocumented students that, you know, there is, you know, a place at a SU 00:18:41.130 --> 00:18:46.236 for you, you know, I know the tuition thing is pretty much a giant barrier 00:18:46.269 --> 00:18:50.766 but um showing them that, that, that the A SU community cares, you know, 00:18:50.799 --> 00:18:54.986 that there are people here who want them here and who will fight for them 00:18:55.019 --> 00:18:58.516 in whatever ways, you know, possible. 00:18:58.549 --> 00:19:05.377 Um 00:19:05.410 --> 00:19:08.936 Do you consider yourself an activist? 00:19:08.969 --> 00:19:16.256 I'd say so, I guess, yeah, how would you define Acti an activist? Um 00:19:16.289 --> 00:19:23.006 Someone who either takes part or participates in or speaks out against or 00:19:23.039 --> 00:19:31.039 speaks out for something that they feel strongly about, I guess. Um 00:19:31.420 --> 00:19:35.706 No, I think, 00:19:35.739 --> 00:19:40.426 OK. Um So let's go to, what are your thoughts on the legis legislation, 00:19:40.459 --> 00:19:44.406 like the Dream Act and DACA 00:19:44.439 --> 00:19:49.967 in general? Mhm. Um 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:55.406 Sadness comes to mind with the Dream Act. Um That's why I did my um 00:19:55.439 --> 00:20:00.555 research on in for my program and just, you know, researching all of, you 00:20:00.588 --> 00:20:06.045 know, the kind of the life life and death of it really. Um, 00:20:06.078 --> 00:20:12.295 and I especially I was completing my research in December of just, let's 00:20:12.328 --> 00:20:16.785 see, over the year that the Senate passed, um, comprehensive Immigration. 00:20:16.818 --> 00:20:20.295 And so they were waiting on the house and there was all this talk that it 00:20:20.328 --> 00:20:24.597 might happen, you know, in that December, December of 2013 and then 00:20:24.630 --> 00:20:28.315 nothing happened. And then there was more talk about it in the spring of 00:20:28.348 --> 00:20:33.305 last year and then things just went towards campaigns and it hasn't been 00:20:33.338 --> 00:20:40.006 brought up since. So, um, I mean, 00:20:40.039 --> 00:20:45.085 I feel a little bit hopeless for the Dream Act itself just because, and 00:20:45.118 --> 00:20:49.065 I've only followed it for a few years, but especially for those who are 00:20:49.098 --> 00:20:53.436 now in their mid to late twenties who have been waiting on something for 00:20:53.469 --> 00:20:57.805 10 years and have missed, you know, half of their, or the beginning of 00:20:57.838 --> 00:21:01.686 their adult life because of all these stupid barriers that are preventing 00:21:01.719 --> 00:21:09.719 them from being, you know, full citizens of this country. So, um, 00:21:09.789 --> 00:21:15.766 and then in terms of DACA, um, I think DACA is great and I think it was, 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:20.726 you know, courageous of the administration to do that. Um, it's not enough 00:21:20.759 --> 00:21:25.496 clearly, but I think there was hopes that more would happen that that was 00:21:25.529 --> 00:21:29.045 kind of the first step and that Congress could back that up. But that 00:21:29.078 --> 00:21:33.347 didn't happen. And so I like the fact that it's being expanded, but of 00:21:33.380 --> 00:21:38.357 course, it continues to be challenged. So, I mean, it's something 00:21:38.390 --> 00:21:42.367 I don't, it's when I hear the dream act it kind of hurts my heart a little 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:47.016 bit. And when I hear of DACA, it's a glimmer, but it's also a fading 00:21:47.049 --> 00:21:50.147 glimmer. I mean, it's, now it's two years, it's over two years old and 00:21:50.180 --> 00:21:54.026 people are worried about renewing and, and things like that. And I was 00:21:54.059 --> 00:21:58.166 actually at, um I was in Washington DC for the grassroots leadership 00:21:58.199 --> 00:22:04.857 program. Um The day that DACA was signed into um into being basically, and 00:22:04.890 --> 00:22:08.347 we got to go to the White House and like be part of the announcement. It 00:22:08.380 --> 00:22:10.926 was, it was, I never thought I would be in that position, but it was 00:22:10.959 --> 00:22:14.766 really like looking back, it was really powerful experience and one that I 00:22:14.799 --> 00:22:19.295 had so much hope, you know, and then here we are a few years later, but, 00:22:19.328 --> 00:22:23.085 you know, it was exciting and it was something and it worked and I think 00:22:23.118 --> 00:22:25.946 the, the best part is that it worked, you know, for the first six months, 00:22:25.979 --> 00:22:30.756 everyone was nervous, but then it actually helped people and got them into 00:22:30.789 --> 00:22:34.825 the working force and put this little band aid to allow them to, you know 00:22:34.858 --> 00:22:39.835 , at least be here for a little bit. So, I don't know, uh when you were in 00:22:39.868 --> 00:22:44.726 DC for that signing, um did you see any, like, organizations there that 00:22:44.759 --> 00:22:50.006 were, um, like, what kinds of organizations did you see there? Um, if you 00:22:50.039 --> 00:22:55.186 did I, well, it was, I still know they, they invited only a couple of 00:22:55.219 --> 00:22:59.706 representatives from, um, from NAFTA and because I was part of that 00:22:59.739 --> 00:23:03.236 program, they offered it to me and I was, like, sure. But it was mostly 00:23:03.269 --> 00:23:06.766 someone asked me if I was an attorney. It was a lot of attorneys. It was, 00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:11.206 um, people from the faith community like different. Um, I couldn't tell 00:23:11.239 --> 00:23:15.785 you what. But, yeah, there was like breakout sessions afterwards. Um, 00:23:15.818 --> 00:23:21.075 labor people from the labor community. Um, 00:23:21.108 --> 00:23:27.176 yeah, it was kind of a strange, it was probably like 50 to 80 people, 00:23:27.209 --> 00:23:32.127 maybe. So. Yeah, that was a weird thing. Did you say breakout sessions 00:23:32.160 --> 00:23:36.147 after the signing? Oh, what were those breakout sessions about, um, to 00:23:36.180 --> 00:23:40.815 talk about, you know, how different, these different people from different 00:23:40.848 --> 00:23:44.467 communities could work together in helping to implement, get the word out. 00:23:44.500 --> 00:23:49.815 Um, what they could do in their both literal, like their home communities 00:23:49.848 --> 00:23:53.946 wherever they lived and then also within their, whoever they affiliate 00:23:53.979 --> 00:23:59.467 with communities. Uh, what, um, what 00:23:59.500 --> 00:24:04.055 was it? Is that what your, your group specifically talked about? Yeah. 00:24:04.088 --> 00:24:07.805 There was only two groups and they were kind of large and so, and there 00:24:07.838 --> 00:24:11.897 was only an hour I think, allotted for it. So I remember I didn't, I just 00:24:11.930 --> 00:24:14.936 kind of listened and there was only like four or five people that were 00:24:14.969 --> 00:24:18.756 kind of talking back and forth and they weren't super, you know, 00:24:18.789 --> 00:24:21.075 incredibly productive as they probably could have been. I don't know how 00:24:21.108 --> 00:24:24.776 the other group was, but my group wasn't, yeah, I mean, I learned some new 00:24:24.809 --> 00:24:29.107 things but I don't, I honestly can't remember what, uh yeah, what the 00:24:29.140 --> 00:24:37.140 specifics were. Um That's really great. Um So 00:24:38.009 --> 00:24:41.246 what did you bring back to Arizona from, with that ex, from that 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:46.555 experience? What did you bring back to dream zone to your um work as a um 00:24:46.588 --> 00:24:49.456 academist supports 00:24:49.489 --> 00:24:52.085 ads? 00:24:52.118 --> 00:24:54.887 Um 00:24:54.920 --> 00:25:01.815 uh So one, a few things I did through that organization and after that, um 00:25:01.848 --> 00:25:06.795 meeting was um we uh we were supposed to meet with each of our members of 00:25:06.828 --> 00:25:14.828 congress. So I met with um Jeff Flake and his people, um Dan Schweikert, 00:25:15.219 --> 00:25:22.976 legislative rep and then um mccain's legislative rep in their offices here. 00:25:23.009 --> 00:25:27.916 And I, each time I took, you know, at least someone from the um the only 00:25:27.949 --> 00:25:31.597 one person that came actually each time um from who was a dreamer quote 00:25:31.630 --> 00:25:35.835 unquote. Um Just to kind of let them know like this is what's, you know, 00:25:35.868 --> 00:25:39.035 this and we went over multiple issues, but a big part of it was the 00:25:39.068 --> 00:25:44.996 undocumented issue and, and we were listened to um I was more of the, I 00:25:45.029 --> 00:25:47.597 mean, when I brought someone else in, they, that person really had the 00:25:47.630 --> 00:25:52.717 story and so they more li they more listened to that person, which is the 00:25:52.750 --> 00:25:57.575 point of it. So that was good. And um I think the person also didn't fit 00:25:57.608 --> 00:26:04.726 maybe the, the stereotypical dreamer um profile. Um sh she was Eastern 00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:08.936 European and blonde hair, blue eyed, you know, and she was undocumented. I 00:26:08.969 --> 00:26:13.035 think that shocked some people and they were like, you know, tell me more. 00:26:13.068 --> 00:26:18.867 So that kind of put a different light on it. I'd say hopefully. Um so 00:26:18.900 --> 00:26:22.936 just kind of making different congressional members aware of, you know, 00:26:22.969 --> 00:26:26.696 things that hopefully their, that their constituents are concerned about 00:26:26.729 --> 00:26:32.055 because we were their constituents. And then, um um I hosted like a 00:26:32.088 --> 00:26:38.186 community roundtable event where um it was at Phoenix College and it was 00:26:38.219 --> 00:26:43.585 just um I had a few speakers come, I had Ruben Gallego who's now a, he's 00:26:43.618 --> 00:26:48.097 now a representative for Congress at the time. He was just a state rep. I 00:26:48.130 --> 00:26:51.835 mean, just a state rep, but he was a state rep. And then um Anna Tovar, 00:26:51.868 --> 00:26:57.467 she's, they were both incredible. Um She's the whip for 00:26:57.500 --> 00:27:02.597 at the state one at some state level. Um So they came and just talked 00:27:02.630 --> 00:27:10.467 about um oh, and Danny Ortega who is an incredible speaker and he was um 00:27:10.500 --> 00:27:16.426 he's a ASU alum um attorney and that he was recommended to me by someone I 00:27:16.459 --> 00:27:20.315 was speaking to at the White House because I was kind of working a little 00:27:20.348 --> 00:27:24.706 bit with them through NFS A. So they recommended him and then I reached 00:27:24.739 --> 00:27:28.315 out to the other ones. Um So that was a co and I invited members from the 00:27:28.348 --> 00:27:32.736 faith community. Higher Ed. Um, 00:27:32.769 --> 00:27:38.406 who else came? Um, business community. Um 00:27:38.439 --> 00:27:44.016 Yeah, I think we had like 20 or 30 people. Um, were, were people receptive 00:27:44.049 --> 00:27:51.486 to this kind of discussion forum kind of? Yeah, I think so. Um, um, you 00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:54.516 know, each kind of person talked about different issues at state, local 00:27:54.549 --> 00:27:58.706 federal level and what, you know, we as a community can look out for and 00:27:58.739 --> 00:28:03.565 do. Um And it wasn't 00:28:03.598 --> 00:28:10.436 uh it was just called like um what was it called? Uh nonpartisan community 00:28:10.469 --> 00:28:13.766 roundtable on and I think it was just comprehensive immigration reform. 00:28:13.799 --> 00:28:16.597 That's what we called it. So it wasn't, you know, it was a lot of 00:28:16.630 --> 00:28:21.967 different things. But yeah. Uh Have you done anything else other like that 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:28.486 that are like that? Um mm 00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:34.867 No, not uh not so sad. Um You seem really invested in this kind of 00:28:34.900 --> 00:28:39.397 movement and the political side of it. Um uh has anybody that you've met 00:28:39.430 --> 00:28:42.976 that influenced that or does that just come out of being um an aggregate 00:28:43.009 --> 00:28:48.847 hit earlier in life or um 00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:53.986 I think um the, the background that I got from that was being, was working 00:28:54.019 --> 00:28:57.637 , I used to work for the human rights campaign and my job was to organize 00:28:57.670 --> 00:29:00.575 congressional meetings in different districts. So I had a lot of 00:29:00.608 --> 00:29:05.075 experience, you know, it's until, you know, that process, it seems really 00:29:05.108 --> 00:29:08.535 daunting. But I had to do it, like, whatever, 60 hours a week. So I was 00:29:08.568 --> 00:29:12.196 like, oh, that's easy. I can totally do that. And it was part of this 00:29:12.229 --> 00:29:14.877 program and I was like, I'm the perfect candidate for that. Like, let me 00:29:14.910 --> 00:29:21.276 do it. And then, um, you know, getting in dream zone, I think one of my, 00:29:21.309 --> 00:29:25.055 what the thing that I like to talk about most, I'm not as, I'm certainly 00:29:25.088 --> 00:29:29.936 not as well versed um on some of the um like teaching it and talking about 00:29:29.969 --> 00:29:34.416 some of the issues as like Davie and Jesus, like they're and Liz, um 00:29:34.449 --> 00:29:38.805 they're all just incredible at being able to answer questions and like, I 00:29:38.838 --> 00:29:43.305 need, I, you know, can be shaking my research sometimes. So, but the part 00:29:43.338 --> 00:29:46.887 that I love to talk about is how you can change how any community member 00:29:46.920 --> 00:29:51.325 can change things for, you know, by the end of the workshop, people are 00:29:51.358 --> 00:29:54.906 like, I can't believe this is happening. I just met these students. 00:29:54.939 --> 00:29:58.746 They're really emotionally, you know, people cry all the time and they're 00:29:58.779 --> 00:30:02.476 really moved. And then I think that's the time when they're like, well, 00:30:02.509 --> 00:30:05.467 what can we do? You know, and that's when I like to come in and be like, 00:30:05.500 --> 00:30:08.305 this is what you can do. You can meet with your representative, send an 00:30:08.338 --> 00:30:13.075 email, call them, you know, like that's what I mean, I still believe in 00:30:13.108 --> 00:30:17.686 the democratic process, you know, I mean, with enough calls and enough 00:30:17.719 --> 00:30:21.426 nudging they're gonna, they have to listen. It's just a matter of 00:30:21.459 --> 00:30:24.506 organizing that on a large scale. So that's something I just, that I felt 00:30:24.539 --> 00:30:28.406 confident in just because I had that experience. And so that's one way 00:30:28.439 --> 00:30:33.137 that I saw that I might be able to help. Um, do you see that kind of? Um, 00:30:33.170 --> 00:30:36.467 so people are actually really receptive of that. Like, how do you do? 00:30:36.500 --> 00:30:39.746 These are the things um, that you can change. Has anybody gone a dream 00:30:39.779 --> 00:30:45.305 zone? Uh More than once or I think we have had a couple that have come 00:30:45.338 --> 00:30:51.387 back to kind of learn more. Um I think it's still kind of an early, I mean 00:30:51.420 --> 00:30:56.627 , it's been around for a few years now, I guess three years. Um, I mean, I 00:30:56.660 --> 00:30:59.847 think after one or two years people might, yeah, come back. But yeah, 00:30:59.880 --> 00:31:03.147 after the first year there wasn't a ton but I mean, because we do, it's, 00:31:03.180 --> 00:31:06.426 it is kind of the same presentation a little bit except for updates, 00:31:06.459 --> 00:31:11.446 obviously of anything that's happening legislatively. But um yeah, I mean 00:31:11.479 --> 00:31:15.065 , that's something that we need in dream zone is like someone that's 00:31:15.098 --> 00:31:20.127 dedicated to work with our database and get our community members involved 00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:23.397 in it. That's what we're actually currently meeting about this month is to 00:31:23.430 --> 00:31:27.166 try to figure out what our, what's our next direction, you know, how we're 00:31:27.199 --> 00:31:31.217 gonna move this forward and get, keep people involved and get them more 00:31:31.250 --> 00:31:38.075 involved and things like that. It's awesome. Um, 00:31:38.108 --> 00:31:41.585 what kinds of things do you see for dream zone in the future? How do you 00:31:41.618 --> 00:31:45.156 think it's going to expand or evolve? 00:31:45.189 --> 00:31:49.217 Um, hopefully 00:31:49.250 --> 00:31:52.637 we can get like a staff member who's because we all just do it on a 00:31:52.670 --> 00:31:56.266 volunteer basis right now. And I think that's really just difficult to 00:31:56.299 --> 00:32:00.637 maintain because everyone has full time jobs and that's, you know, it's 00:32:00.670 --> 00:32:04.367 all done on the side basically. And so after, you know, a few years, it 00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:08.446 gets hard to figure out who's doing what and, you know, have a clear 00:32:08.479 --> 00:32:13.805 direction. So we're working on that now. Um So having a dedicated staff 00:32:13.838 --> 00:32:20.315 member, at least one, you know, would be tremendous. Um I think that's 00:32:20.348 --> 00:32:24.585 inhibited by the lack of undocumented students that we currently have 00:32:24.618 --> 00:32:30.397 enrolled probably. Um, and what's inhibiting that is the tuition problems 00:32:30.430 --> 00:32:36.555 ? I think it's kind of a big cycle. Um 00:32:36.588 --> 00:32:39.967 So, yeah, that, those are some of the, like if we, I think a dedicated 00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:43.256 staff would be the best thing we could do. And that's what, that's what 00:32:43.289 --> 00:32:46.506 we're going for. I know that there was a meeting with, um, the Dana 00:32:46.539 --> 00:32:50.065 students last week and we're supposed to meet in a couple of weeks to see 00:32:50.098 --> 00:32:54.825 what happened. Um Do you find, uh because of the lack of students, do you 00:32:54.858 --> 00:33:02.565 find it, uh like getting funding and things like that um difficult. Um I 00:33:02.598 --> 00:33:07.026 think because of all of the recognition that Dream Zone has got nationally 00:33:07.059 --> 00:33:11.835 and at these different conferences, I mean, um, it, it was kind of a 00:33:11.868 --> 00:33:17.055 really hot, like, big deal for the first year and a half or so and then I 00:33:17.088 --> 00:33:20.377 think it's, and so that's how we know there was a little bit of funding 00:33:20.410 --> 00:33:24.186 originally And so we still have kind of some and it's kind of we've got to 00:33:24.219 --> 00:33:28.416 reapply and now it's like, whoa what's our next direction? So I think that 00:33:28.449 --> 00:33:31.926 will be a challenge. It wasn't at first because of all the awards and all 00:33:31.959 --> 00:33:36.585 the things like that. But that's kind of now there's gotta be some more, 00:33:36.618 --> 00:33:39.916 some kind of a new direction or something. I think that we will definitely 00:33:39.949 --> 00:33:46.357 face challenges. Um So you said that uh the Dream Zone was uh accepted for 00:33:46.390 --> 00:33:50.226 the Clinton Global Initiative. Um What other kinds of awards or 00:33:50.259 --> 00:33:54.906 recognition has Dream Zone gotten? Um 00:33:54.939 --> 00:34:02.939 We just put together this report and uh so I think we got the um is it the 00:34:03.299 --> 00:34:09.635 uh Chicano Faculty and Staff Association? Um There was like a program 00:34:09.668 --> 00:34:16.675 award for that, we were nominated for a uh Cesar Chavez um Community Award. 00:34:16.708 --> 00:34:22.686 I don't remember if I got that one or not. Um 00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:27.374 The May is one, I think the Clinton one was the biggest one because that's 00:34:27.407 --> 00:34:31.307 something that was like, on the national scale. I know there was like, uh 00:34:31.340 --> 00:34:34.405 , the list is on a Google doc, but those are all the ones I can think off 00:34:34.438 --> 00:34:38.217 the top of my head. Um, can you talk about that experience of actually, um 00:34:38.250 --> 00:34:45.405 , winning the global initiative? Um It was great. I mean, it was, you know 00:34:45.438 --> 00:34:49.394 , something that I was just all over social media that's, I dedicated my 00:34:49.427 --> 00:34:52.765 life to that for like, you know, I don't know, a couple of weeks and then 00:34:52.798 --> 00:34:57.526 , um Daer was the only one that actually went to Saint Louis to accept it. 00:34:57.559 --> 00:35:02.405 Um I think it was kind of a let down in the end because there was no 00:35:02.438 --> 00:35:06.834 funding or anything attached to it. It was just like a basketball that was 00:35:06.867 --> 00:35:10.896 like signed and I was kind of like really all that for, I mean, it was 00:35:10.929 --> 00:35:14.247 national recognition. I think that was the biggest part of it, but I think 00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:18.126 there may have been some belief that there was some kind of funding 00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:21.577 attached to it because there was all this hype, you know about it. And I 00:35:21.610 --> 00:35:25.166 think that was on, on behalf of the Clinton Global Initiative. I, I don't 00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:28.615 know where the, I don't know, I was only just told that we were nominated 00:35:28.648 --> 00:35:33.106 so I was just trying to help us win it. Um So it was great. I mean, it was 00:35:33.139 --> 00:35:36.967 like, like, again, um, Doctor Crow sent all of us you know, personal thank 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:39.405 you notes and like, it was a big deal for the university, I think, 00:35:39.438 --> 00:35:44.227 especially having just come out of SB 1070. And like, I think it showed, I 00:35:44.260 --> 00:35:50.186 think it was really great for a su um but in terms of her dream zone, it 00:35:50.219 --> 00:35:55.287 didn't, I think that helped us secure university funding. So maybe in the 00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:58.865 end it worked, I mean, it worked out but it was super exciting but it was 00:35:58.898 --> 00:36:04.316 kind of like, I think um it wasn't super clear what they, what was gonna 00:36:04.349 --> 00:36:11.517 happen with that a word. And so it was good and good and um bad, I guess. 00:36:11.550 --> 00:36:15.106 Um So you said Doctor uh Doctor Crow actually sent you thank you notes. Do 00:36:15.139 --> 00:36:19.425 you get support from the administration in that regard? I would say so, I 00:36:19.458 --> 00:36:27.227 mean, he actually um he sent, he uh put together a letter of like 50 00:36:27.260 --> 00:36:33.445 different colleges and universities um to Congress in uh I think it was 00:36:33.478 --> 00:36:35.936 the third round that the dream match was being considered. I think it was 00:36:35.969 --> 00:36:38.557 2009. 00:36:38.590 --> 00:36:45.885 Um So, yeah, I, I certainly feel supported by the administration. Um not 00:36:45.918 --> 00:36:50.166 so much by abor because I know that they're politically tied to or I know 00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:55.356 what they have to do and satisfy, you know, different state um players and 00:36:55.389 --> 00:36:59.967 different politicians and whatnot. So, um but yeah, as far as Doctor Crow 00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:03.365 and his administration, absolutely. And the dean of students and every, 00:37:03.398 --> 00:37:07.436 all the other organizations on campus, like everyone's very supportive. Um 00:37:07.469 --> 00:37:14.057 Where do you see the um undocumented immigrant mo uh movement um going in 00:37:14.090 --> 00:37:19.396 the future? Like, what are your hopes for it? Um, 00:37:19.429 --> 00:37:24.506 I hope that something, something has to be passed at the federal level. 00:37:24.539 --> 00:37:28.526 Like that's, that's it. Something has to be passed at the federal level 00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:34.086 and it has to be passed to the house and it's not gonna happen until 00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:39.175 someone new, like not someone new. But it's impossible. I mean, they kind 00:37:39.208 --> 00:37:42.767 of, from what I can tell, I don't think it's gonna happen before Obama 00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:45.796 leaves office. I think it's gonna be up to the new, I think people are 00:37:45.829 --> 00:37:50.037 gonna run on that um as part of their platform and I think it's gonna be 00:37:50.070 --> 00:37:56.276 up to the new administration to, I think Obama's done all he can with the 00:37:56.309 --> 00:38:00.026 current Congress. I know I'm totally getting political but those are just 00:38:00.059 --> 00:38:05.126 my very personal thoughts. Um But yeah, I think it'll be, unfortunately, I 00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:09.385 think it's up to the new, whatever the new president will be. Um Is there 00:38:09.418 --> 00:38:17.077 anything else that you want to talk about? That comes to mind? 00:38:17.110 --> 00:38:22.135 That is. So this project is for Arizona specifically. Uh It's Arizona and 00:38:22.168 --> 00:38:25.405 California. So we're partnering with UCL A. Um they're doing their own 00:38:25.438 --> 00:38:29.037 interviews and then we do, we're focusing on Arizona, mostly the Phoenix 00:38:29.070 --> 00:38:33.986 Valley area for now. We hope that it goes nationally. But, yeah, that's 00:38:34.019 --> 00:38:37.405 for now, who else? I mean, how many people are you talking or what's like 00:38:37.438 --> 00:38:43.445 the scope in terms of your interviews? Uh, right now we are looking at, um 00:38:43.478 --> 00:38:48.456 , I think we've got 00:38:48.489 --> 00:38:54.256 UCL A has, I think 15 interviews with, uh, um, with an organization where 00:38:54.289 --> 00:38:58.436 they are called ideas. Um, and then we have, we're kind of all over the 00:38:58.469 --> 00:39:02.405 board. We have, uh, we talked to David Garcia. We have interviews like 00:39:02.438 --> 00:39:09.615 Davie and um I think we have with undocumented. Um 00:39:09.648 --> 00:39:12.666 Yes, we have, 00:39:12.699 --> 00:39:18.345 I think 5 to 10. 0, great now and then we have uh a few allies through 00:39:18.378 --> 00:39:26.206 facilitation dream Zone. Um Yeah, so our scope is we, we want to tell a 00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:30.236 story of the Indictment Youth Movement, but we also want to get the whole 00:39:30.269 --> 00:39:35.115 story from all kinds of different sides and so our scope is rather big. 00:39:35.148 --> 00:39:40.986 But um but yeah, that's what we want to try and do. Cool. Yeah. OK. So um 00:39:41.019 --> 00:39:45.675 I just need you to give to put this um online. It will be available for 00:39:45.708 --> 00:39:49.276 download on our website and it will be public, but if you give your 00:39:49.309 --> 00:39:53.546 consent. Ok, perfect. Thank you so much. This has been Holly Soli 00:39:53.579 --> 00:39:57.586 interviewing Monica Keys for the Adopt of Voices Project on April 28th, 00:39:57.619 --> 00:39:59.619 2015.