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 My partner wasn't sure if he wanted to have Children. It had turned out

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that I had a bunch of like,
gynecological problems. I'd gone to doctor

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after doctor and they just kept saying
like, you shouldn't be in pain, you

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have a small cyst, like there's no
reason to be in this much pain. And

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they just kept basically telling me I
was crazy, which is part of the

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course, even female doctors were
telling me, you know, like, oh, it's

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nothing but I finally saw this really
good doctor and he said something's

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something's wrong, right? Like you had
a surgery to remove this, this cyst.

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I had one already and I, I had another
one and he's like, it shouldn't be

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in as much pain. So why don't we look,
you know, do you consent to doing

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like an exploratory surgery? And he
went in and came back and said, like

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you had like the worst case of
endometrio I've ever seen and it was so

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vindicating, right? Because for years
I'd just been told, you know, I mean

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, I started my period when I was 11
and so it was like, it seems like

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you've had it your whole life. And so
I was 26 at the time when he found

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it. So they cleaned it all up and they
said, you know, this is really

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serious. So you need to think about
having kids now or maybe not for a

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long time. If ever I, I came home and
I talked to my partner and we were

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still unsure, but he was definitely
leaning more towards the, maybe we can

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try having a kid, which I was excited
but then nervous about because it's

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different when, like, you have to make
a decision as opposed to naturally.

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They said, you know, like standard
surgery stuff, you're gonna have

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surgery, you're gonna start your
period right away. I didn't and I was

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like, ok, I want to take a pregnancy
test and for the first time he had

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really cued into this like struggle
and he was like, I'm so sorry, I know

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it's hard for you to see a negative
test. And I didn't say anything and he

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said it was negative, right? And I
just shook my head. And after that, I

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did, you know, I, I'm a reader and a
researcher and like a full time

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student always. And so that's how I
define myself as I'm a writer and then

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I'm a mom. So I guess that's really
it. I bought all these books and, you

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know, I started watching the, the huge
documentary, you know, the business

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of being born and it changed the way I
looked at birth. I didn't

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understand any of the medicalization
or the C sections were even bad. But

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I also feel like it affected my
expectations in a way that was really

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negative too. I really felt, you know,
like prepared and excited and uh it

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, it changed. But, well, I had wanted
to see the doctor that had done all

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the great work for me um on the
endometriosis. But after watching the

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documentary, I noticed very quickly
that his inclination was to surgery

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and I was distrustful of him and
immediately found midwives, you know, I,

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I called my ob and they were like,
we'll see you at six weeks and I was

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really scared. I had been through a
miscarriage very young. And so I was

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like, I don't want to wait six weeks.
And when I called the midwives, they

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were like, oh, come in tomorrow and
we'll, you know, get you on vitamins

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and we'll start all this process. So I
felt immediately more comfortable.

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It was all women. It, I mean, it's,
it's hard to remember now because I'm

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in that like phase where I remember
pregnancy being amazing and I know

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that it was not at all. I mean, he was
huge. He um cracked one of my ribs

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and my eight month of pregnancy from
just kicking it. I mean, yeah, it was

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, it was uncomfortable. And for me,
like, I remember it was a big decision

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we had to make with my partner the
last month of pregnancy. I was like, I

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want to take maternity leave early. I
knew I wasn't going back to my job.

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We talked and talked about it. And
finally I just said, like I've been in

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school full time and working full time
my whole life. Like this is the

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last chance I get, I want to take the
time off. And so we finally agreed,

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ok, I'll take the last month off. And
all I did was sit around and watch

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like 16 and pregnant and eat burritos.
And it was amazing, but also

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horrible because when I took the time
off, I was like, I'm gonna read all

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these books and I'm gonna be so
productive. And I think I watched every

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episode of 16 and pregnant because I
found it on Amazon. And I was like,

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I'm never because watching that made
me feel so prepared. I was like, ok,

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like, I, I'm at least better than
everybody in this show, which is

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horrible, but it's totally true
because I was terrified. But watching that

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, I was like, this is I've got this
down right? Like I have a painted

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nursery little. Did I know none of
that mattered? But, and then like right

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before my due date, I remember I was
just so stressed, intense about it.

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And I have like post traumatic stress
disorder and anxiety disorder. And

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so my therapist had been telling me,
you know, like be aware of your body

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because it manifests bodily um because
that might have an effect on your

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labor. But I had read all of these
books by Aa May and whoever else. And I

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had thought, you know, like I went to
yoga and I know how to do yoga

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breathing. And I, I, we have a labor
tub like this is, it's going to be

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fine. And so my midwife noticed that I
was really tense a few days before

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my due date. And she said, you know,
you're still three centimeters. Um,

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you, you look good, but it's not time
yet. She's, and she just told me she

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said, go home, take a bath, drink a
glass of wine like do and just calm

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down. And so I kept thinking my water
had broke and finally they were like

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, you know, put a pad in and if it's
soaked within, you know, 20 minutes,

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then your water has broken and come in
and I woke up, I think it had to

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have been like 1130 and I woke up and
I stood up and I had this huge

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contraction and just like a bucket of
water just came out, right. I mean,

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and only one in 10 women even have
their water break naturally. And so I,

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I woke my partner up and I said, you
know, my water broke and he's like,

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no, it didn't because I've been doing
this all week, right where I'm like

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, I know. And I was like, no, it
really, really, it really happened and he

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said, ok. And so we went downstairs
and we left. But by that point I think

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I was, my contractions were like three
minutes apart. I mean, it was

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really, it was, seemed to be going
really fast. We went to the hospital,

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they didn't have a room for us. And so
I remember I was out in the waiting

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room and, you know, there's all these
people with like balloons and

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stuffed animals and it's one in the
morning they're waiting to see their

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happy nieces and nephews and I'm like
holding on to the wall, like trying

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not to scream like, just pouring fluid
everywhere. It was horrible. And

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finally, like, they got a room for me
and like, I just, I knew something

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was wrong. Right. It was horrible. It
was more pain than I had ever

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imagined. And that was one thing that
really shocked me is I remember

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thinking, like I read tons of books
and none of them just said, like you,

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it's gonna hurt worse than anything
you ever felt in your life. And it's

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like, why, why was this not in the
book? Like, sure I have a labor tub and

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, and sure I have, you know, like good
breathing skills and a tennis ball

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on my back. But none of it's, it's
working. So we were tearing my clothes

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off because I didn't want them on my
body and then waiting for the labor

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tub to fill. And once I finally got
into the labor tub that helped for a

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while, because at this point, I think
my contractions were like a minute

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and a half apart and it was really,
really bad and it was really painful.

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And I just kept thinking, like, nobody
told me it was gonna be this bad.

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And then I felt stupid because I'm
like, well, of course, it was going to

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be bad. But, and we had had this, you
know, ridiculous. Now I look at it

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and I just laugh like this ridiculous
birth plan, right? Like we're going

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to have essential oils and soft music
playing and no lights on and no

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hospital gowns and no hospital
personnel and no medication and, and it's

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so idealistic. So this was, I think it
was like six hours, maybe, maybe 4

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to 4 or five hours. Um and they were
like, hey, we're gonna check you and

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I thought for sure, you know, I was
six or seven, I was four centimeters

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and I just like, I'm doing all this
stupid breathing stuff and

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visualization and none of it's working
and, and I finally just, I, I just

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can't do it. And I, I said like, I
need something like, I don't want an

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epidural and I think because he was
taken by surprise and because I had

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told him so adamantly that I didn't
want medication. My partner kind of, I

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don't want to say argued with me but
was like, are you sure you want this

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? And I had taken this as
disappointment and he's disappointed in me and

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I'm weak for needing it. And, and I
was just like, I don't, I don't care.

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So they gave me, I think it was
Demerol and they had to hold me down and

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give me a shot because I didn't have
an IV. And um it didn't do anything

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like it just made me dizzy and made me
sick. And I was like, well, why the

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hell would you tell me this would
help? Because it didn't help. And now I

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feel like I failed and I'm not even
relieved of any pain. Now, if my

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midwife at that point had said the
next six will go 1000 times faster. But

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nobody told me that either. And so I
was just, I felt defeated and tired.

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And I remember thinking if I could
just get like 20 minutes of sleep, I

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would have done so much better. And so
it was in the labor tub. And I

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remember like clear day, even now I
had this horrible contraction and all

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I wanted to do was push. And I said
like, all right, like I, I need to

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push and they said, no, there's no
way, there's no way. And I said, yes,

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there is. And they're like, it's
gonna, you don't want me to check you.

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And I said, yes, I want you like you
need to do it. So I got out of the

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tub, I, you know, dried off or
whatever. And they checked me and they were

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like, oh my God, it's time to push.
They said there's a lip of your cervix

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that we can wait for or we can
manually push it. And I said, I do and they

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said it will hurt really bad. I said,
I don't care. I'm in so much pain,

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just do it, wait for the contraction
and do it. And so they did it and I

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started pushing and it felt really
good. Like I felt really happy. I, I

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was excited and it was still painful,
but I was channeling that pain into

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pushing. And I, like, I, I hit like a
second stride and or maybe a first

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stride because I never really felt
like I had one and I was pushing and

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pushing. And my midwife kept saying
like, oh, you're doing so good, like

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good job. She was being really
encouraging and then she left and she said

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, just take a, take a break and she
left

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and she came back with a woman. I
didn't know who looked like a doctor.

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And the midwife says to the doctor
right in front of me, she's been

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pushing for 2.5 hours and the baby
hasn't moved. And I was like, what were

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you going to tell me. And so the
doctor said, well, like, not at all. And

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he said, no, the baby hasn't descended
the baby, she's 10 centimeters. We

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moved the cervical lip. I mean, the
baby was fine. Right. But hasn't

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descended at all. And so she, I
remember the doctor goes in to like, feel

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the baby and it was horrible. Like,
the pain was awful. And she, she said

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he's, he's stuck, he's twisted, he's
in the wrong position. Um He's never

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going to come out this way. So I need
to twist him, twist him back. And I

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said, OK, fine, twist him back and she
tried to do it and I couldn't, I

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just couldn't handle it. And I think
part of it's because she was a

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complete stranger. And now I see like
it's my PTSD and it's all these

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things. I mean, she had her whole hand
up my vagina, like, of course, it

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would cause me anxiety. And so she
said, like, you need to get an epidural

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, like she can't do this, like it's
time for an epidural. Like she just,

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and at that point, II, I think I
fought for a little bit and I finally

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just, I just gave up. So the
anesthesiologist comes in and, you know, you

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have to sit up straight and hold your
back really still, which is

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incredibly hard when you have
contractions coming every, you know, 45 30

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seconds. And he's like, OK, it's in
wait 20 minutes and, you know, it'll

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start to feel much better and 20
minutes pass. And I'm like, I still feel

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everything. And the thing that was
bothering me the most is that the

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nurses didn't believe me. And I was
like, no, I'm telling you, I feel

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everything. And so the
anesthesiologist came back and said, oh my God,

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you're right. He was really nice. Um,
and he did it a second time and the

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second time it worked. And so I was
pushing and it was the same thing. It

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was so much harder because I couldn't
feel anything. But I had the midwife

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I liked and, you know, my partner and
they were holding my legs back and

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it was so weird because I was pushing
something I couldn't feel. But they

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kept saying like, you're doing good,
like keep pushing, you're doing great.

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And they're like, ok, just take a
break, your contractions are slowing

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down, which I'm sure was because of
the epidural. And I was starting to

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get frustrated, but I was not in pain.
I remember when, when it stopped,

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the pain stopped and they said, like,
you just had a contraction, I

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started crying and I remember it was
because I was so relieved, but also

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because I was so sad and I didn't
expect to be sad when the pain was gone.

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But I was, I felt like defeated. Um,
they came back and they said, ok,

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you really, you really have to push.
You really have to put into this. And

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I did and it seemed like things were
going well. And then the doctor came

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back in and they said the baby still
has not moved at all. And it had been

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another two hours of pushing. And so I
said, no, I said I'm not getting ac

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section and the doctor said, I'll let
you push another hour, but that's it.

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This is all you get. And if the baby
hasn't moved, we need to, we need to

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move on. And I think a big moment for
me that was really devastating was

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in that between time of like, we'll
let you push one more time um in

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between the pushing one more time. And
them telling me I had sat on the

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epidural button because they had put
it in the wrong. And so I got like

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way numb, way fast, which wasn't
supposed to happen. And that was also

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like a horrible, I remember my fingers
feeling tingly. And again, I'm

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telling the nurses like something's
wrong and they're like, no, it's fine.

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And then finally my partner sees that
I'm on the fucking button. And so

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then they're like, OK, we're going to
try pushing again. And I knew that

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third time I was pushing that last
hour that it just wasn't, I knew it was

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going to happen because I couldn't
feel anything. I couldn't feel my chest.

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I couldn't feel, I just was, I mean, I
was devastated. I remember I was

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laying there and I was like, like
naked and the, the sun was coming in and

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I had all these nurses and midwives
and doctors and my partner and I was

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just hysterical and I think both my,
the midwife I trusted and my partner

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, like, at the same time was like,
like fucking, you give her a minute,

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right? Like she's completely losing it
here. And so everybody left and I

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just calmed down and I, I told my
partner, I said, I, it was really hard

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and I, I finally just said, fine,
whatever. Like I don't care. So then I

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started prepping and I don't remember
any of that. I remember, you know

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that obviously they put an IV in, I
don't remember being wheeled to the

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room. That's something that I've been
trying to conjure. And I just don't

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remember any of it. I remember being
in the room and I remember just

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laying there crying. There's all these
people around me, I can't move and

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the curtain was there. And I remember,
I just kept saying, like, I want

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him to go straight to my chest. And my
midwife said, absolutely, we can

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still do that. And I said, and I told
everybody that would listen, I want

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him, I want to get my skin to skin. I
want him right on my chest. I'd like

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, that's fine. Like fine. I have ac
section because they said, sometimes

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we move babies and they move right
back. And I said, well, just his

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temperament alone, I can see, like,
maybe that's the type of baby he is

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and they said it's, of course he'll go
just like a regular birth. And

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that's what I kept saying. That was a
big deal to me. It was written 15

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times in my birth plan and, and I had
come to terms with it pretty quickly.

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Um But I said like, but as long as he
gets put on my chest and everyone

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agreed that was going to happen. And
I, I remember it was dim because I

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told them I didn't want the lights on.
And so they, they tried, my midwife

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tried very hard to make it how I
wanted it. And I'll, I'll never forget

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like it's so hard for me. I remember
my partner saying that that's it.

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Like that's our son. Can you hear our
son? And I, I couldn't. And then all

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of a sudden so like, I, like, I'm
hearing the sound behind me

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and I was like, where, where is he?
But no one can hear me because I'm so

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drugged that I, I can't lift my head
up. And I just remember saying like,

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where the fuck is my baby? And my
partner is trying to stay with me. And I

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was like, why is he, why isn't he on
my chest? And he, he said, well, he

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was £10. That's why he wouldn't come
out whatever. And, and I was like,

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where, where's my baby? Like, I don't
care how big he is. And, um, when

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they did finally put it, he was
wrapped in his blanket and I couldn't,

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like, I couldn't even lift my head. I
remember trying to tell anybody but

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I, I couldn't project my voice. I
remember trying to say, like, somebody

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helped me, like I couldn't even see
him. I mean, it was horrible. It was

00:16:11.690 --> 00:16:15.706
the worst feeling I've ever felt in my
entire life was like there was this

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blanket between us and it was
horrible. It was like the one moment I

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wanted and it just didn't happen. And
I mean, it's ridiculous that it

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bothers me because we're so bonded,
but it's still really, it made a big

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difference to me. And I just, I wanted
like there was nothing more in my

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entire life I've ever wanted than to
lift my head up and hold my own baby.

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And I couldn't do either one because I
was so drugged and I was so

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unhappy. And I remember feeling really
guilty for being so unhappy because

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it's supposed to be like the best
moment of my life and it's fucking hard

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and it's painful and it's awful. And I
felt like it was a huge disservice

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to me that I was told this was a
magical, mystical, beautiful transcending

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experience. And I'm sure for some
people it isn't great for them. But my

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experience has been that it's not and
most people that I talk to, it's not

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when people say that because the baby
is here and healthy, there's nothing

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to worry about. They're removing the
mother from the equation, which makes

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me really angry because like it didn't
happen to the baby. It happened to

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me and it happened to my body and like
the birth experience is more my

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experience than it is. Of course, I'm
happy that I have a baby. That's why

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I got pregnant and that's why I didn't
have an abortion or given up for

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adoption. But that doesn't mean that
something didn't happen to me and

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that I wasn't there. And basically,
it's how when people ask women how

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they're doing, what they really want
you to say is fine. Right? I'm doing

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fine and I feel like that's the same
thing with like childbirth. If

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someone does ask you, they don't want
to hear like I felt like my insides

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were being ripped inside out. They,
they just want to hear like it was a

00:17:55.660 --> 00:18:00.486
beautiful magical experience and it
was the best day of my life and it's

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that whole like mothers are selfish if
they think about themselves. And

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it's like, I, I'm a person and I'm a
mother, I'm not one or the other.