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 That it was really chaotic and crazy. And so it was both expected and

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unexpected, really, like it was a
preplanned baby is how we call it. It's

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a kind of a long story actually
because my partner wasn't sure if he

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wanted to have Children. It had turned
out that I had a bunch of like

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gynecological problems. I'd gone to
doctor after doctor and they just kept

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saying like, you shouldn't be in pain.
You have a small cyst, like there's

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no reason to be in this much pain. And
they just kept basically telling me

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I was crazy, which is part of the
course, even female doctors were telling

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me, you know, like, oh, it's nothing.
But I finally saw this really good

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doctor and he said something's
something's wrong, right? Like you had a

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surgery to remove this, this cyst. I
had one already and I had another one

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and he's like, it shouldn't be in as
much pain. So why don't we look, you

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know, do you consent to doing like an
exploratory surgery? And he went in

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and came back and said, like you had
like the worst case of endometrio

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I've ever seen and it was so
vindicating. Right. Because for years I'd

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just been told, you know, I mean, I
started my period when I was 11 and so

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it was like, it seems like you've had
it your whole life. And so I was 26

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at the time when he found it. So they
cleaned it all up and they said, you

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know, this is really serious. So you
need to think about having kids now

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or maybe not for a long time. If ever
I, I came home and I talked to my

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partner and we were still unsure, but
he was definitely leaning more

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towards the, maybe we can try having a
kid, which I was excited but then

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nervous about because it's different
when like, you have to make a

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decision as opposed to naturally. They
said, you know, like standard

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surgery stuff, you're gonna have
surgery, you're gonna start your period

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right away. I didn't and I was like,
ok, I want to take a pregnancy test

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and for the first time he had really
cued into this like struggle and he

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was like, I'm so sorry. I know it's
hard for you to see a negative test

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and I didn't say anything and he said
it was negative, right? And I just

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shook my head. And after that, I did,
you know, I, I'm a reader and a

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researcher and like a full time
student always. And so that's how I define

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myself as I'm a writer and then I'm a
mom. So I guess that's really it, I

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bought all these books and, you know,
I started watching the, the huge

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documentary, you know, the business of
being born and it changed the way I

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looked at birth. I didn't understand
any of the medicalization or the c

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sections were even bad. But I also
feel like it affected my expectations

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in a way that was really negative too.
I really felt, you know, like

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prepared and excited and uh it, it
changed. But, well, I had wanted to see

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the doctor that had done all the great
work for me um on the endometriosis.

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But after watching the documentary, I
noticed very quickly that his

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inclination was to surgery and I was
distrustful of him and immediately

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found midwives, you know, I, I called
my ob and they were like, we'll see

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you at six weeks and I was really
scared. I had been through a miscarriage

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very young. And so I was like, I don't
want to wait six weeks and when I

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called the midwives, they were like,
oh, come in tomorrow and we'll, you

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know, get you on vitamins and we'll
start all this process. So I felt

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immediately more comfortable. It was
all women. I mean, it's, it's hard to

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remember now because I'm in that like
phase where I remember pregnancy

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being amazing and I know that it was
not at all. I mean, he was huge. He

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um, cracked one of my ribs and my
eight month of pregnancy from just

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kicking it. I mean, yeah, it was, it
was uncomfortable. And for me, like I

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remember it was a big decision we had
to make with my partner the last

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month of pregnancy. I was like, I want
to take maternity leave early. I

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knew I wasn't going back to my job. We
talked and talked about it and

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finally I just said, like, I've been
in school full time and working full

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time my whole life. Like, this is the
last chance I get, I want to take

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the time off. And so we finally
agreed, ok, I'll take the last month off.

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And all I did was sit around and watch
like 16 and pregnant and eat

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burritos. And it was amazing, but also
horrible because when I took the

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time off, I was like, I'm going to
read all these books and I'm gonna be

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so productive. And I think I watched
every episode of 16 and pregnant

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because I found it on Amazon. And it
was like, I'm never because watching

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that made me feel so prepared. I was
like, ok, like, I, I'm at least

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better than everybody in this show,
which is horrible, but it's totally

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true because I was terrified. But
watching that, I was like, this is I've

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got this down right? Like I have a
painted nursery little did I know none

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of that mattered. But, and then, like,
right before my due date, I

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remember I was just so stressed,
intense about it and I have like post

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traumatic stress disorder and anxiety
disorder. And so my therapist had

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been telling me, you know, like, be
aware of your body because it

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manifests bodily um because that might
have an effect on your labor. But I

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had read all of these books by AA May
and whoever else. And I had thought

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, you know, like I went to yoga and I
know how to do yoga breathing. And I

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, I, we have a labor tub like this is,
it's going to be fine. And so my

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midwife noticed that I was really
tense a few days before my due date. And

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she said, you know, you're still three
centimeters. Um, you, you look good

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, but it's not time yet. She's, and
she just told me she'd go home, take a

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bath, drink a glass of wine, like do
and just calm down. And so I kept

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thinking my water had broke and
finally they were like, you know, put a

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pad in and if it's soaked within, you
know, 20 minutes, then your water

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has broken and come in and I woke up,
I think it had to have been like

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1130 and I woke up and I stood up and
I had this huge contraction and just

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like a bucket of water just came out.
Right. I mean, and only one in 10

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women even have their water break
naturally. And so I, I woke my partner

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up and I said, you know, my water
broke and he's like, no, it didn't

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because I've been doing this all week,
right where I'm like, I know. And I

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was like, no, it really, really, it
really happened. And he said, ok, and

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so we went downstairs and we left, but
by that point I think I was, my

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contractions were like three minutes
apart. I mean, it was really, it was

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, seemed to be going really fast. We
went to the hospital, they didn't

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have a room for us. And so I remember
I was out in the waiting room and

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you know, there's all these people
with like balloons and stuffed animals

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and it's one in the morning, they're
waiting to see their happy nieces and

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nephews and I'm like holding on to the
wall, like trying not to scream

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like just pouring fluid everywhere. It
was horrible. And finally, like

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they got a room for me and like, I
just, I knew something was wrong, right

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? It was horrible. It was more pain
than I had ever imagined. And that was

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one thing that really shocked me is I
remember thinking like I read tons

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of books and none of them just said
like you, it's gonna hurt worse than

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anything you ever felt in your life.
And it's like, why, why was this not

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in the book? Like, sure I have a labor
tub and, and sure I have, you know

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, like good breathing skills and a
tennis ball on my back. But none of

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it's, it's working. So we were tearing
my clothes off because I didn't

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want them on my body and then waiting
for the labor tub to fill. And once

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I finally got into the labor tub that
helped for a while because at this

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point, I think my contractions were
like a minute and a half apart and it

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was really, really bad and it was
really painful. And I just kept thinking

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, like, nobody told me it was gonna be
this bad. And then I felt stupid

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because I'm like, well, of course, it
was going to be bad. But, and we had

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had this, you know, ridiculous. Now I
look at it and I just laugh like

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this ridiculous birth plan, right?
Like we're going to have essential oils

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and soft music playing and no lights
on and no hospital gowns and no

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hospital personnel and no medication
and, and it's so idealistic. So this

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was, I think it was like six hours,
maybe, maybe 44 or five hours. Um And

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they were like, hey, we're gonna check
you and I thought for sure, you

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know, I was six or seven, I was four
centimeters and I just like, I'm

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doing all this stupid breathing stuff
and visualization and none of it's

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working and, and I finally just, I, I
just can't do it and I, I said, like

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I need something like I don't want an
epidural and I think because he was

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taken by surprise and because I had
told him so adamantly that I didn't

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want medication, my partner kind of, I
don't want to say argued with me

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but was like, are you sure you want
this? And I had taken this, this

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disappointment and like he's
disappointed in me and I'm weak for needing

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it. And, and I was just like, I don't,
I don't care. So they gave me, I

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think it was Demerol and they had to
hold me down and give me a shot

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because I didn't have an IV. And um it
didn't do anything like it just

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made me dizzy and made me sick. And I
was like, well, why the hell would

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you tell me this would help because it
didn't help? And now I feel like I

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failed and I'm not even relieved of
any pain. Now, if my midwife at that

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point had said the next six will go
1000 times faster. But nobody told me

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that either. And so I was just, I felt
defeated and tired and I remember

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thinking if I could just get like 20
minutes of sleep, I would have done

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so much better. And so it was in the
labor tub. And I remember like clear

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day, even now I had this horrible
contraction and all I wanted to do was

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push and I said, like, all right, like
I, I need to push and they said no

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, there's no way. There's no way. And
I said, yes, there is. And they're

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like, it's gonna, you don't want me to
check you. And I said, yes, I want

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you like, you need to do it. So I got
out of the tub, I, you know, dried

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off or whatever and they checked me
and they were like, oh my God, it's

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time to push. They said there's a lip
of your cervix that we can wait for

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or we can manually push it. And I
said, I, and they said that it will hurt

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really bad. I said, I don't care. I'm
in so much pain, just do it, wait

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for the contraction and do it. And so
they did it and I started pushing

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and it felt really good. Like I felt
really happy. I, I was excited and it

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was still painful, but I was
channeling that pain into pushing. And I,

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like, I, I hit like a second stride
and, or maybe a first stride because I

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never really felt like I had one and I
was pushing and pushing and my

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midwife kept saying like, oh, you're
doing so good, like good job. She was

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being really encouraging and then she
left and she said, just take a, take

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a break and she left

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and she came back with a woman. I
didn't know who looked like a doctor and

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the midwife says to the doctor right
in front of me, she's been pushing

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for 2.5 hours and the baby hasn't
moved. And I was like, what were you

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going to tell me? And so the doctor
said, well, like, not at all. And he

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said, no, the baby hasn't descended
the baby, she's 10 centimeters. We

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moved the cervical lip. I mean, the
baby was fine. Right. But hasn't

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descended at all. And so she, I
remember the doctor goes in to like, feel

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the baby and it was horrible, like the
pain was awful. And she, she said

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he's, he's stuck, he's twisted, he's
in the wrong position. Um, he's never

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going to come out this way. So I need
to twist him, twist him back and I

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said, OK, fine, twist him back and she
tried to do it and I couldn't, I

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just couldn't handle it. And I think
part of it's because she was a

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complete stranger. And now I see like
it's my PTSD and it's all these

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things. I mean, she had her whole hand
up my vagina, like, of course, it

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would cause me anxiety. And so she
said, like, you need to get an epidural

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, like she can't do this, like it's
time for an epidural. Like she just,

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and at that point, II, I think I
fought for a little bit and I finally

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just, I just gave up. So the
anesthesiologist comes in and, you know, you

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have to sit up straight and hold your
back really still, which is

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incredibly hard when you have
contractions coming every, you know, 45 30

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seconds. And he's like, ok, it's in
wait 20 minutes and, you know, it'll

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start to feel much better and 20
minutes pass. And I'm like, I still feel

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everything and the thing that was
bothering me the most is that the nurses

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didn't believe me. And I was like, no,
I'm telling you, I feel everything.

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And so the anesthesiologist came back
and said, oh my God, you're right.

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He was really nice. Um, and he did it
a second time and the second time it

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worked. And so I was pushing and it
was the same thing. It was so much

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harder because I couldn't feel
anything. But I had the midwife I liked and

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, you know, my partner and they were
holding my legs back and it was so

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weird because I was pushing something
I couldn't feel. But they kept

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saying like, you're doing good, like
keep pushing, you're doing great. And

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they're like, ok, just take a break.
Your contractions are slowing down,

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which I'm sure was because of the
epidural. And I was starting to get

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frustrated, but I was not in pain. I
remember when, when it stopped, the

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pain stopped and they said, like, you
just had a contraction. I started

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crying and I remember it was because I
was so relieved. But also because I

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was so sad and I didn't expect to be
sad when the pain was gone, but I was

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, I felt like defeated. Um, they came
back and they said, ok, you really,

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you really have to push, you really
have to put into this. And I did and

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it seemed like things were going well.
And then the doctor came back in

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and they said the baby still has not
moved at all. And it had been another

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two hours of pushing. And so I said,
no, I said, I'm not getting ac

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section and the doctor said, I'll let
you push another hour, but that's it.

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This is all you get. And if the baby
hasn't moved, we need to, we need to

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move on. And I think a big moment for
me that was really devastating was

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in that between time of like, we'll
let you push one more time um in

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between the pushing one more time. And
them telling me I had sat on the

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epidural button because they had put
it in the wrong. And so I got like

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way numb, way fast, which wasn't
supposed to happen. And that was also

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like a horrible, I remember my fingers
feeling tingly. And again, I'm

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telling the nurses like something's
wrong and they're like, no, it's fine.

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And then finally my partner sees that
I'm on the fucking button. And so

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then they're like, ok, we're going to
try pushing again. And I knew that

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third time I was pushing that last
hour that it just wasn't, I knew it was

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going to happen because I couldn't
feel anything. I couldn't feel my chest.

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I couldn't feel, I just was, I mean, I
was devastated. I remember I was

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laying there and I was like, like
naked and the, the sun was coming in and

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I had all these nurses and midwives
and doctors and my partner and I was

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just hysterical and I think both my,
the midwife I trusted and my partner

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, like at the same time was like, like
fucking, you give her a minute,

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right? Like she's completely losing it
here. And so everybody left and I

00:14:01.168 --> 00:14:06.606
just calmed down and I, I told my
partner, I said, I, it was really hard

00:14:06.639 --> 00:14:09.547
and I, I finally said, fine, whatever,
like I don't care. So then I

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started prepping and I don't remember
any of that. I remember, you know,

00:14:12.259 --> 00:14:16.116
that obviously they put an IV in. I
don't remember being wheeled to the

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room. That's something that I've been
trying to conjure. And I just don't

00:14:19.158 --> 00:14:22.907
remember any of it. I remember being
in the room and I remember just

00:14:22.940 --> 00:14:27.316
laying there crying. There's all these
people around me. I can't move and

00:14:27.349 --> 00:14:30.385
the curtain was there. And I remember
I just kept saying, like, I want him

00:14:30.418 --> 00:14:33.407
to go straight to my chest. And my
midwife said, absolutely, we can still

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do that. And I said, and I told
everybody that would listen, I want him, I

00:14:37.869 --> 00:14:41.446
want to get my skin to skin. I want
him right on my chest. I'd like,

00:14:41.479 --> 00:14:44.907
that's fine, like fine. I have ac
section because they said sometimes we

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move babies and they move right back.
And I said, well, just his

00:14:48.178 --> 00:14:51.765
temperament alone. I can see like
maybe that's the type of baby he is and

00:14:51.798 --> 00:14:54.895
they said it's, of course he'll go
just like a regular birth. And that's

00:14:54.928 --> 00:14:58.657
what I kept saying. That was a big
deal to me. It was written 15 times in

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my birth plan and, and I had come to
terms with it pretty quickly. Um, but

00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:07.557
I said like, but as long as he gets
put on my chest and everyone agreed

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that was going to happen. And I, I
remember it was dim because I told them

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I didn't want the lights on. And so
they, they, my midwife tried very hard

00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:20.696
to make it how I wanted it to be in
the room. They asked if I wanted

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specific music played and I said, no,
which I regret because then they

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started playing like, you know, pop
whatever. And I was just like, this is

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horrible and I'll, I'll never forget
like it's so hard for me. I remember

00:15:34.869 --> 00:15:41.157
my partner saying that that's it. Like
that's our son. Can you hear our

00:15:41.190 --> 00:15:46.635
son? And I, I couldn't. And then all
of a sudden so like, I, like, I'm

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hearing the sound behind me.

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And I was like, where, where is he?
But no one can hear me because I'm so

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drugged that I, I can't lift my head
up. And I just remember saying like,

00:15:58.558 --> 00:16:03.996
where the fuck is my baby? And my
partner is trying to stay with me. And I

00:16:04.029 --> 00:16:08.496
was like, why is he, why isn't he on
my chest? And he, he said, well, he

00:16:08.529 --> 00:16:12.417
was £10 that's why he wouldn't come
out whatever. And, and I was like,

00:16:12.450 --> 00:16:16.775
where, where's my baby? Like, I don't
care how big he is. And um, when

00:16:16.808 --> 00:16:20.385
they did finally put it, he was
wrapped in this blanket and I couldn't,

00:16:20.418 --> 00:16:24.505
like, I couldn't even lift my head. I
remember trying to tell anybody but

00:16:24.538 --> 00:16:28.116
I, I couldn't project my voice. I
remember trying to say like somebody

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helped me, like I couldn't even see
him. I mean, it was horrible. It was

00:16:32.038 --> 00:16:36.047
the worst feeling I've ever felt in my
entire life was like there was this

00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:39.645
blanket between us and it was
horrible. It was like the one moment I

00:16:39.678 --> 00:16:43.797
wanted and it just didn't happen. And
I mean, it's ridiculous that it

00:16:43.830 --> 00:16:47.467
bothers me because we're so bonded,
but it's still really, it made a big

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difference to me. And I just, I
wanted, like there was nothing more in my

00:16:51.479 --> 00:16:54.456
entire life I've ever wanted than to
lift my head up and hold my own baby.

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And I couldn't do either one because I
was so drugged and I don't

00:16:58.849 --> 00:17:01.755
remember what happened after that. I
remember them wheeling me to like a

00:17:01.788 --> 00:17:07.717
room kind of. And I started to get my
feeling together and I like, ok,

00:17:07.750 --> 00:17:12.766
we're going to try to breastfeed right
away. And I remember I couldn't

00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:17.266
hold him. My arms were too weak and I
just, I was terrified. I was going

00:17:17.299 --> 00:17:24.217
to drop him. I was numb and in shock
and I was, I was so unhappy and I

00:17:24.250 --> 00:17:28.335
remember feeling really guilty for
being so unhappy because it's supposed

00:17:28.368 --> 00:17:32.035
to be like the best moment of my life
and I couldn't get him to latch on.

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My nipples weren't responding. And now
I know it's because I had ac

00:17:34.420 --> 00:17:37.756
section. But nobody bothered to tell
me that nobody bothered to say this

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is happening because your whole body
is numb and your tissue is numb. They

00:17:41.500 --> 00:17:44.785
were just like, oh, we'll get you a
nipple shield. And I remember they

00:17:44.818 --> 00:17:48.335
tried to come in and give him a bath.
I think like a day after he was born

00:17:48.368 --> 00:17:51.426
and I told him no. And they were like,
no. And I said no, like he's my

00:17:51.459 --> 00:17:55.276
baby and you're not giving him a bath
like you can leave. And just because

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I didn't want to ever be away from my
son. And I think a part of that was

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, I just felt like that space of like
two minutes being away from him

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right after he was born. Had a
profound effect. Like I still have like

00:18:08.059 --> 00:18:12.526
these horrible, like dreams about like
him being separated from me because

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like the one thing I wanted I didn't
get because somebody was sloppy or

00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:21.575
lazy or forgot or somebody felt like
they had a right to do whatever they

00:18:21.608 --> 00:18:25.117
wanted. Like who the fuck cares how
big his head was or how heavy he was.

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Like, he should have been with me in
that moment And he wasn't

00:18:29.250 --> 00:18:32.756
one thing that was really validating
was they said, and you could even see

00:18:32.789 --> 00:18:36.246
the little dent in his head. Like when
they went in there, he was in the

00:18:36.279 --> 00:18:39.877
exact position, they had moved him out
and they said some babies just move

00:18:39.910 --> 00:18:44.446
right back and I have no doubts that
that's especially knowing him. Now, I

00:18:44.479 --> 00:18:48.367
have no doubt that they moved him and
he moved right back where he was

00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:53.656
comfortable and that's how he still
sleeps in his most comfortable. And so

00:18:53.689 --> 00:18:57.805
his head is like twisted to the side
because, you know, the fetal position

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, your legs are tucked in and your
head is tucked down. Well, his head is

00:19:00.858 --> 00:19:06.026
tucked back like at a almost like a 90
degree angle into the side and his

00:19:06.059 --> 00:19:11.736
legs are sprawled like like kind of
curled together and up, but also back.

00:19:11.769 --> 00:19:15.906
So he's like a, it's like a reverse
fetal position. And from the day he

00:19:15.939 --> 00:19:19.686
was born when he sleeps on his own,
that's how he sleeps working with this

00:19:19.719 --> 00:19:23.835
through my own poetry. And my own work
was really interesting. That was in

00:19:23.868 --> 00:19:27.085
some ways also vindicating but also
very frustrating. It's hard to write

00:19:27.118 --> 00:19:30.815
about something traumatic and like a
linear narrative because it wasn't

00:19:30.848 --> 00:19:33.607
linear even now telling the story. I'm
like, oh wait, I forgot this and I

00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:37.516
go back and forth. And so I went to
get the documents from the hospital.

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So I got the documents and the
incompleteness of them was shocking at one

00:19:43.459 --> 00:19:47.946
point. I mean, on one hand, but there
were things that like the hospital

00:19:47.979 --> 00:19:52.825
or the people present didn't tell me
which like the cord was wrapped

00:19:52.858 --> 00:19:57.377
around his neck. And if somebody had
told me that even after I would have

00:19:57.410 --> 00:19:59.516
felt a whole lot better because what
would have happened if he had

00:19:59.549 --> 00:20:05.597
descended, why didn't anybody tell me?
And that has to be a failure of the

00:20:05.630 --> 00:20:10.357
system? I mean, I they're being
distance because that's what we had

00:20:10.390 --> 00:20:13.565
requested. But like, why did nobody
tell me they were monitoring the heart

00:20:13.598 --> 00:20:17.766
more than normal? Because like all of
these things would have helped. And

00:20:17.799 --> 00:20:23.217
I remember hearing all the encouraging
things and I understand why. But I

00:20:23.250 --> 00:20:29.516
also think like, why didn't anybody
say like it's even just saying like

00:20:29.549 --> 00:20:33.967
progress is really slow because here I
was thinking I was going to see my

00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:37.986
baby and then a strange doctor gets
brought in and said the baby hasn't

00:20:38.019 --> 00:20:43.936
moved an inch nothing nowhere like
you've done three hours of hard, the

00:20:43.969 --> 00:20:46.676
hardest work you've ever done with
your body and the baby hasn't moved.

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And I found that to be very
frustrating that no one had told me any of

00:20:51.959 --> 00:20:56.006
these things that were going on. Then
I realized I didn't know the, the

00:20:56.039 --> 00:20:59.256
cord is wrapped around his neck until
the C section. But somebody could

00:20:59.289 --> 00:21:02.335
have told me that after it would have
made me feel a whole lot better

00:21:02.368 --> 00:21:06.387
about it because I was really happy.
But I was also really depressed and

00:21:06.420 --> 00:21:08.887
really sad that I had missed this
because I don't think I'm gonna have

00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:12.766
more Children. I don't, I can't even
imagine having more Children. And so

00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:17.676
this was my one birth and everything
that could go wrong pretty much went

00:21:17.709 --> 00:21:23.976
wrong and it comes back to this
expectation where I was so sure that it

00:21:24.009 --> 00:21:27.617
wasn't going to go wrong. Like I
watched the documentary and I read the

00:21:27.650 --> 00:21:33.236
books and like it's going to be fine,
right? Like, and they all of the

00:21:33.269 --> 00:21:36.676
literature says, like be prepared that
anything could happen. And of

00:21:36.709 --> 00:21:40.835
course, like, yeah, of course anything
can happen, but not to me, right?

00:21:40.868 --> 00:21:44.897
Like it was, that's always where it
was like not to me. And you know, my

00:21:44.930 --> 00:21:48.857
mom had three Children and my
grandmother had three Children and you know

00:21:48.890 --> 00:21:52.526
, I have big hips, it's, it's fine,
right? Like it's the hospitals and the

00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:59.656
doctors that make these things happen,
not our bodies. And I was so wrong.

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And I mean, part of the reason I was
in so much pain was that his

00:22:02.568 --> 00:22:05.496
position because he was pressed up
against my back. So I was having front

00:22:05.529 --> 00:22:09.785
labor and back labor. But nobody told
me that then either. And I felt like

00:22:09.818 --> 00:22:13.147
if somebody had said like the way he's
twisted his wire in so much pain,

00:22:13.180 --> 00:22:17.887
like maybe I would have felt more
confident. But that's part of my problem

00:22:17.920 --> 00:22:23.526
too is I lost my confidence almost
immediately because it, it just hurt so

00:22:23.559 --> 00:22:27.226
much more than I ever expected it to.
So my partner told me a lot that

00:22:27.259 --> 00:22:32.926
really helped me was like, if you,
like, if we didn't have this medical

00:22:32.959 --> 00:22:35.785
advancement, you and the baby would be
dead. And that's something that

00:22:35.818 --> 00:22:41.397
weirdly as it may be sustains me a lot
to think that it could have been a

00:22:41.430 --> 00:22:46.166
whole lot worse. But I was talking to
a friend about like the mommy wars,

00:22:46.199 --> 00:22:50.206
right? Like the formula versus, and
breast milk. And I said that's not

00:22:50.239 --> 00:22:55.785
where it starts. It starts in when,
before you've even had a baby and it

00:22:55.818 --> 00:23:02.406
starts in the delivery room. And like,
I still see friends or people in

00:23:02.439 --> 00:23:06.597
like mom groups that post like I did
unnatural medicated labor, like,

00:23:06.630 --> 00:23:09.926
don't fuck with me or whatever. And
it's like all in the name of female

00:23:09.959 --> 00:23:14.387
empowerment, but it's like, does that
mean I'm a weak person does. That

00:23:14.420 --> 00:23:18.815
mean I'm a weak mother because my baby
was stuck and twisted and I

00:23:18.848 --> 00:23:22.647
couldn't like, no, it doesn't mean
that it's fucking hard and it's painful

00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:26.986
and it's awful and I felt like it was
a huge disservice to me that I was

00:23:27.019 --> 00:23:32.196
told this was a magical, mystical,
beautiful, transcending experience. And

00:23:32.229 --> 00:23:36.545
I'm sure for some people it isn't
great for them. But my experience has

00:23:36.578 --> 00:23:40.986
been that it's not and most people
that I talk to, it's not when people

00:23:41.019 --> 00:23:45.266
say that because the baby is here and
healthy, there's nothing to worry

00:23:45.299 --> 00:23:50.406
about. They're removing the mother
from the equation which makes me really

00:23:50.439 --> 00:23:54.467
angry because like it didn't happen to
the baby. It happened to me and it

00:23:54.500 --> 00:23:58.045
happened to my body and like there's a
whole patch of skin that I'll never

00:23:58.078 --> 00:24:03.347
feel again in my life. And like,
there's, I remember having sex the first

00:24:03.380 --> 00:24:06.742
time after and I remember having like
labor flashbacks, like nobody told

00:24:06.775 --> 00:24:09.752
me that was going to happen, but I
pushed for six hours. Of course, it was

00:24:09.785 --> 00:24:14.831
going to happen. And I couldn't have
sex that way for like several months.

00:24:14.864 --> 00:24:17.670
Even now. Sometimes if I'm feeling
particularly vulnerable, I can't

00:24:17.703 --> 00:24:21.002
because it just reminds me of this
horrible traumatic event. And so when

00:24:21.035 --> 00:24:25.111
people say, well, you have a healthy
baby, what does it matter? It

00:24:25.144 --> 00:24:30.127
happened to my body and to me and the
birth experience is more my

00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:33.305
experience than it is his. Of course,
I'm happy that I have a baby. That's

00:24:33.338 --> 00:24:36.926
why I got pregnant and that's why I
didn't have an abortion or give him up

00:24:36.959 --> 00:24:39.446
for adoption. But that doesn't mean
that something didn't happen to me and

00:24:39.479 --> 00:24:44.075
that I wasn't there. And basically
it's how, when people ask women how

00:24:44.108 --> 00:24:48.795
they're doing, what they really want
you to say is fine. Right. I'm doing

00:24:48.828 --> 00:24:53.426
fine and I feel like that's the same
thing with like childbirth. If

00:24:53.459 --> 00:24:58.085
someone does ask you, they don't want
to hear like I felt like my insides

00:24:58.118 --> 00:25:02.637
were being ripped inside out. They,
they just want to hear like it was a

00:25:02.670 --> 00:25:08.496
beautiful magical experience and it
was the best day of my life and people

00:25:08.529 --> 00:25:13.857
want this idealized and fine. And it's
just, I guess what amazes me the

00:25:13.890 --> 00:25:17.617
most about that is people with
Children say that and, and I was like, well

00:25:17.650 --> 00:25:20.377
, you were there like, did you not
feel like it happened to you? But it's

00:25:20.410 --> 00:25:23.887
just a change in perspective, I guess
it's that whole, like mothers are

00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:29.627
selfish if they think about
themselves. And it's like I'm a person and I'm

00:25:29.660 --> 00:25:32.979
a mother, I'm not one or the other.