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 when you first came the issue versus coming back now, What changes, what

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monumental changes do you see? Oh
gosh, there's so much, but I do keep in

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touch. I mean, I do really keep up
with the university because I'll, you

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know, I'll always be a sun devil. Um,
but I'm incredibly impressed with,

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with, I think how the national
reputation has really improved. I think

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that really Michael Crow's tenure has
really, he's a,

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you know, he's a risk taker and he's a
visionary and it's paying off, you

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know, I think I probably more aware of
that because I, I don't live here

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anymore. And so I do hear about
Arizona state, but I'm always thrilled

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when I tell people I'm an alumna and
um, whatever that so many people in

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academia no issue. And they know the
term the new american university and

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they, you know, know the academic
quality and so, uh, that it was not that

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way. When I left here. You know, we
were watching tv sunday and one of the

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national analysts was talking about
President Crow's new book. And, and

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this is a really esteemed analyst. And
he was talking about, you know, how

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Michael Crowe has made higher
education more affordable. And

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you've probably noticed big changes in
terms of the amount of funds that

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we bring in from grants and of course
it's a real goal of the university,

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it has to be. I mean, it really does
have to be in, you know, we, we

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talked about this all the time that we
talk, we really aren't state

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institutions anymore anymore. Um,
we're state assisted at best and maybe

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state affiliated at worst. Uh, so it's
really put a lot of pressure, I

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think on higher ed in general. And I
think issues done a, you know, really

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remarkable job of looking for
additional funding sources in order to keep

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education more affordable. It's
frustrating when our state constitution

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says that, you know, that that really
higher, it should be as close to

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zero as possible for our students and
to to see that it just continues to

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to be eroded again, a major erosion
this year. So, um, you know, that's

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concerning. But again, that's a
national issue of, I was just meeting with

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a a female faculty member at Rutgers
yesterday who is in a leadership

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program. And we were talking
specifically about this, what's what will

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hire it looked like in, you know, in
10 years. And it's gonna be

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interesting to see if there's, you
know, if if a state institution out

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gets 15% of their funding from the
state, that's pretty hi. And so there

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are a number that are 10 or less. And
so if what's going to happen if we

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lose all that, it's a scary time. And,
but I will say that I feel as

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though uh issues position itself very
well to be able to weather that. Um

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, I don't think, I don't think all
higher institutions will surviveit