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leaving of a issue at that time, that was tough for me. It was, I guess in

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my head I always thought I would
retire from the issue. Um, and, but you

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know, when one door shuts another one
opens and it turned out to be a

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wonderful opportunity for me um, in so
many ways professionally, I mean, I

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, I think it was eight years I had
with victory tastic and I wouldn't

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trade anything for them. I learned so
much. Um, and I had a urologist,

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scott Swanson I worked with as well
who was our medical liaison for

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development and they call this the
three musketeers. I mean we just really

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had an incredible, incredibly strong
team and having the experience of the

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larger Mayo clinic and spending a lot
of time in Rochester was also a

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experience I would never want to give
up. So I was really fortunate. This

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is that job came open and one of my
best friends from college who I'm

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still really good friends with is Pat
Norris and Pat was a former alumni

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chair too, but before me, but she was
one of my closest friends in college

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and um, she and I had lunch and I told
her I was,

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I'm gonna be looking for a job and
she, a couple weeks later, her pledge

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daughter had been, who I knew was the
director of rehab at Mayo and she

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saw this job and Senator Pat Pat sent
it to me and everything just fell

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into place. Um it was again meant
meant to be Gary Tooker was a big

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supporter of Mayo and he was one of my
references and so when you know

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that happened and then, um, it's just
a number, a number of things. Don

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buff meyer, I don't know if you know
his name, but he was on the flint

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foundation board who I got to know
very well. He was very involved with

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Mayo, He was a physician, they all
called, you know Vic and said you need

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to hire this woman. And so I went out
and met with them and talk to them

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and apparently Vic's the story is that
as soon as I walked out, Vick said

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, how fast can we hire her? So it was
just, it was just supposed supposed

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to be, it really was you mentioned
earlier, three different medical

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entities, major medical entities that
you had primary responsibility for

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fundraising. Let's start with Mayo
clinic. Talk about Mayo clinic, what

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you did there, what their goals were
for their fund drives. So yeah, Mayo

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clinic was a great experience. So I
was responsible for fundraising for

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Mayo clinic in Arizona, but I spent
about probably close to a week, a

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month in Rochester where mother Mayo
is because really our fundraisers

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raised money for all of Mayo wherever
the research or wherever the program

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was that, that the benefactor was
interested in, if it was Jacksonville,

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if it was Rochester, the first large
gift that I raised. Um, there was a

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$5 million gift and it went all the
Rochester because the interest was

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really in multiple sclerosis research
and we had a researcher there doing

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some incredible things. And so, um,
that's where it needed to go. So we

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really raised money everywhere. And so
the goals were two fold, one was

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really increase the fundraising for
all of Mayo clinic, but also then to

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build the fundraising program Arizona
because it had been a pretty nascent

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program, There hadn't been a lot of
emphasis on it. So it was really um,

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building a culture of philanthropy at
Mayo Clinic. And I did it again

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after my experiences at Arizona state,
I knew that one of my keys in order

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to be successful was to build
relationships with physicians. And that

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turned out to be true. I think a lot
of our success and we were very

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successful was due to the fact that we
had a really incredibly strong

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physician referral program. Our
physicians got really good at um,

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referring patients to us that they
knew had both capacity and an

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inclination. And um, and we had to
prove to the positions that they could

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trust us and that we were professional
and that we would never jeopardize

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anything about their relationship. And
once they saw that they jumped

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right in and that was really
incredibly rewarding and we were able to do a

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lot of really good things for
patients. We really raised the money for a

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new building on the phoenix campus
that's for our surgeons. We raised all

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the money for a beautiful simulation
center in the hospital. Um, those are

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a couple of physical things that we
did, but we also again raised a lot of

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money for research, the two areas that
are always the, the biggest

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research interests are cancer, and
because unfortunately it touches

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everyone and cardiovascular diseases
because everyone's desperately afraid

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of a heart attack. So, um, those
generally tended to be um ones that we

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raised more money for and that really
were really rewarding. So I love

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Mayo. Um, I loved it because it was
really diverse. The patients were

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passionate, I'd be talking to a cancer
patient and their family one day

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about what they wanted to do and the
next day I'd be talking to someone

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who, it was love in life because he
just had his shoulder a place and

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could play tennis again. So it really
had some really nice balance to it.

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What were the fundraising goals and
when you were there of Mayo clinic

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and and how much was raised you
recall?

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Pretty much so we were in, we were
just starting a campaign, a quiet phase

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of a campaign was the first campaign
mail had ever done. So that was

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really fun for me. Um there were very
few people at Mayo who had had any

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kind of campaign experience and I've
been in the issue during a couple of

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our campaigns and the last campaign,
um, I was more involved with because

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I was an alumni association, so I um
it was the next official member of

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the Foundation board, so I had some
exposure and experience and so that

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was really fun for me to help build
that campaign, so um we uh I had a put

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at the time seemed like a big goal of
$300 million and we really blew past

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it, so it was exciting 300 beyond 300
million, which today is nothing at

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records, we just finished a billion
dollar campaign december 31st and um

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billion dollar campaigns are really
what people are looking at now, so at

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least at least a million, it's crazy
how things have changed. Yeah, so

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when, when Mayo decided to put a
medical school here, I really wanted us

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to try and get bring the issue and on
that for a lot of reasons, number

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one, because I really wanted the issue
to get the benefit of an

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affiliation. The one thing that always
drove me crazy

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as director of admissions and even
subsequently was the fact that so many

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of the really good premed almost all
the really good pre med students in

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the state felt they had to go to U. Of
a because that's where the med

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school was, and it made me nuts
because it didn't, that didn't have a

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Philippines difference, it was how you
did in your, you know, of course

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work and how you did on the cat. So
the fact that we could really get

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close affiliation with Mayo clinic, I
just felt was really gonna be

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helpful for us to get some of those
really strong premed students to stay

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here.

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Well, you never steered away from
challenges. I mean, to be in development

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in different aspects,

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it's not a very comfortable field, I
wouldn't think with all the

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expectations. No, it is. I mean, it
is, I mean, honestly, if you, if

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you're passionate about, you know,
your mission, um, and again, uh, I tell

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everyone, you can't create
philanthropic intent on anyone. And I had a

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fundraiser who worked with me at Mayo
Clinic who said to me one day, you

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know, I've just learned that there are
givers and takers in this world and

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our job is to find the givers. So if
you really just look at that and you

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don't, you don't take things
personally, either. People aren't

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philanthropic or they have other
interests already. Um, they support their

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church, they support environmental
issues, they have 17 grandchildren that

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they've committed to put through
college, whatever it is. So it's just

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find those people who are passionate
about your mission and giving them an

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opportunity to do something that's
going to make them feel good about it.

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And so when I look at our goals are
really based on, on reality, you know

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, there's, there's an art, but also a
science of fundraising. And so if

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people say, oh, I'm really intimidated
by our goals and whatever, then

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they haven't really looked at the
science part. Um, you know,

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interestingly, even though I'm, all of
my degrees were more in the social

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science area, I'm really a data
person. Um, when I've done kind of, these

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work style things, I always come out
on the analytical side is one of my

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stronger, generally the strongest. And
so

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when we're, when we're looking at
that, when we're setting goals for him,

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when we're setting metrics, it's
really all based on real information. So

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, you know, people who say they're
intimidated by that even either haven't

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done their homework or I don't really
like raising money.

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Well, let's move on to the fred
Hutchinson Cancer Research Center. So yeah

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, it's interesting. I was recruited up
there. Um, the reason I won a

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couple of different things, um, I was
very, very close with the Ceo, at

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Mayo Clinic in Arizona victor drastic
who's a cardiothoracic surgeon by

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training and he announced he was
stepping down and they were gonna bring

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someone new in. Uh and everyone knew
that we had a really in a great

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relationship and

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I got a call from a recruiter a couple
of weeks later saying, I know you

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never listen to these jobs yourself,
but this is one you really should

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look at and say, well I said, well
send me the stuff? So he did. So I went

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home to tom and I said, would you ever
consider moving to Seattle? And to

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my shock, he said yes, so I went up
there to look at it and I was just

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extremely impressed with the place.
It's really the gold standard of

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cancer research, It's just an
incredible place with brilliant scientists.

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Um And I thought well you know, let me
do something wild and crazy and let

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me give the new Ceo an opportunity to
hire his own person. As it turned

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out, I worked with the new Ceo for a
couple of months and he was terrific

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. I think we would have worked really
well together. But um I went to fred

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hutch and really enjoyed Seattle, It's
a beautiful place. Uh fred hutch is

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doing amazing things, but it wasn't
diverse enough for me, it was all

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cancer all the time. And mhm. It was
tough. I mean I'm a, you know this

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I'm a very classes, half full person,
I jump out of bed every morning to

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get to work and I wasn't really
feeling that. And so tom said to me one

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night, do you see yourself there for
five or seven more years and I went,

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no, I I really don't. So I decided
maybe I should be open to look

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um I got a call about this job, it
records um and the uh and over the

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years I've gotten a lot of recruiters
not because I've been looking for

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jobs particularly, but because they
always called, I want to know who do

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you know? And because I have pretty
much a lot of national contacts, I

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always get called. And so he called
and said, okay, I have the perfect job

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for you, this one's for you. And so it
was a stab at records because it

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actually got me back in higher ed,
which I am thrilled to be back in

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higher ed. I love that environment and
it kept me in medical fundraising,

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which is truly my niche. I mean it
truly is, it's the it's the most

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rewarding thing I've ever done. Um and
it was a building a program which

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I've had to do before and love, I love
doing that. So uh it just seemed

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like, okay, let's do it. I was ready
for one more big challenge. Um and

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trust me, this is a challenge. It's a
it's a huge huge job, lots of

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responsibility. But I know I look back
in five years and say, wow, you

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know, look what we're able to do. And
that's kind of the my eye on the

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prize is being able to look back and
see what we build. How many different

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units do you work with. So this is the
area that I work in is called

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Rutgers biomedical health sciences. It
was a result of the largest

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integration of entire read that ever
occurred on july 1 2013 when um a

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former University of Medicine and
dentistry of New Jersey was dissolved

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and the units moved into Rutgers. So
there are 14 units um, to medical

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schools, uh, which again is unique. Um
The only en ci designated

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Comprehensive cancer center in the
state of New Jersey, the state's only

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schools of pharmacy, dental medicine,
I've got again, I could go on. It's

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huge, so I'm really building the
entire program, um, from scratch pretty

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much.