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uh just by way of introduction, I recently retired from the National Park

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Service. I worked at the Harpers Ferry
Center, which is in harpers Ferry

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west Virginia, about 50 miles west of
Washington D. C. And this is the

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National Center where all media for
all national parks is created. So if

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you go to a park visitor center and
look at the exhibits that those

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exhibits are designed to Harpers Ferry
center, the movies are produced

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there. The publications are produced
by the wayside exhibits. And

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fortunately for me, lots of maps, it's
it's, I've had a career, it's like

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working in a candy store, uh working
on various national park maps at any

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time. I'd be working on a couple of
dozen. But apart that really has a

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special place in my heart is the Grand
Canyon. Um There are four

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cartographers that work at Harpers
Ferry Center. We divvy up the 417

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National Parks among us. And
fortunately for me, Grand Canyon landed in my

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lap and you know, topographically and
historically there's probably no

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better park to map. And that's what
I'm gonna talk about today. Are some

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of the, the maps that I've made of
Grand Canyon National Park through the

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years. Okay, so if you were to go To
the park this morning, drive up to

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the entry entrance station, pay you
$25 to get in the friendly ranger uh

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would give you a brochure. And this
would be the map that's on that

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brochure. Looking at it, It looks like
a pretty standard National Park

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Service map. Doesn't You see the
entirety of the Grand Canyon from Lake

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Powell up in the northeast, down to
Lake Mead in the southwest, all 277

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river miles of the park. This is what
we do with most of our brochures. We

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create a park wide map. Uh they've
been handing this thing out and the

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public by and large has found this map
to be completely useless. Okay. You

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know, as you probably know, there's
about six million people who visit the

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park every year. The majority go to
the south rim. The majority spend four

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hours or less at the park and then
leave. I mean such a pity. Okay, so you

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know, the park, you know, came to me
saying, look, you know, we need

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another solution. You know, this map
is just not doing the trick. What we

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would like to do is create a
supplemental map that they're going to call a

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pocket guide.

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Oh yeah. And the idea was that this
would focus on the south rim itself

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And be, you know, something small that
can fold up into a pocket uh, and

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be, you know, 17" wide and cover the
entirety of the south room and I said

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, yeah, sure. I'll take that on. Um
now I want to warn you right off the

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bat that the solution that I came up
with, if they gave out such things as

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cartographic licenses, mine would have
been revoked by the map that I

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produced. Okay, so you know, I won't
say anything more before we look at

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the map, let's just do a little
photographic reconnaissance of the south

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rim. And when you mentioned to most
people in the world, Grand Canyon,

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this is the image that conjures up
their mind. It's a sunset at Yavapai

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Point. It's, it's serene, majestic,
majestic, beautiful. All these

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adjectives that come to mind. Okay.
And you're just looking at this

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photograph, look at the colors. I'm
going to come back to these colors

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later in my talk. Now there's another
side of the Grand Canyon that most

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people don't think about. This is a
couple 100 yards away. You know, this

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is the, the parking lot at the visitor
center. You know, the, the Coconino

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Plateau is, it's vast, it's largely
flat, its forested. There's not many

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landmarks at the south rim. The
village area which has grown organically

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over the years. There's a tangle of
roads Getting around is very difficult.

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Finding parking is very difficult.
Visitors have to deal with this

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situation here before they could get
to point. There's uh, you know, also

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the Grand Canyon railroad that arrives
at the railway station near the rim.

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People disgorged from the train there
and get out and they have to find

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where the can in this in this
landscape and of course, you know, most of

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us have been here, we know the way.
But if you're a first time visitor,

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that's difficult. That's where my job
comes in, pointing him in the

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direction uh, to relieve traffic
congestion on the south rim. The park

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service now has a very nice shuttle
bus service and this is working, you

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know, pretty pretty well. And uh, I
mean there's a problem with this too

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is, you know, people have to acquaint
themselves with the bus routes and I

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say this, you know, as most americans
including myself, are not really

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that accustomed to using public
transportation. So you know, bang right

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off the point that they have to learn
about this bus system on on the

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south rim. And for the more energetic
visitors to the south rim, there's

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the greenway system of bike trails
that people could rent out bikes and

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and ride through the forest. And I
will mention that there's also just a

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very beautiful rim trail and bikes are
not allowed on that trail for very

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obvious reasons.

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Okay, so enough of the photo
reconnaissance, let's let's look at maps. The

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The South Rim itself stretches for 32
road miles from Hermit's rest in the

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west. Always desert view in the east.
So this is this is the area that the

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park wanted me to focus on. Okay, and
most of the visitors go to this area

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that we call Grand Canyon village
collectively. And what we see here is a

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data dump from open street map. I just
got all the data for that area. So

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if you're getting an open street map
map, this is what you'd be looking at.

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There's, there's really lots of stuff
there. Look at all the houses,

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there's employee housing, there's 2000
permanent residents in Grand Canyon

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Village. That's a lot of people.
That's a small city, isn't it? And it's

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also, you know, high school. So really
the first step in mapping this area

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for the public is to get rid of the
stuff that the public does not need to

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see and that that really does does
help out, doesn't it? Okay, but we're

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not out of the woods yet. On on this.
When you, when you look at this

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Grand Canyon village area closely,
there's three nexus is of tourist

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activity. There's, you know, the area
that the park service called the

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village Market Plaza and then the
visitor center area. So if I'm making a

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map, look how tightly clustered those
buildings are, how in the world

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would I label these things in a
meaningful way for the public? And of

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course, I think all of you would know
the answer. We need insects, don't

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we? Okay, well, I'm, next slide, I'm
going to show you is inset madness to

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properly

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to properly mapped the entire Grand
Canyon at the scale that you want to

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get visitors to where they want to go.
You would have to make a map of the

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entire south rim to show that the
broad overview plus have six insects,

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including insects of insects, Which of
course is not a very good solution.

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So this is the quandary that I was
looking at to make a map 17" wide of

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the South Rim. And you know, I was
puzzling about how to do this. And one

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of my contacts at the park said tom,
don't worry, we have the solution for

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you. He said, I just went on vacation.
Uh, the place where I went, I had a

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wonderful map and what I would like
you to do is replicate the map that

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this place uses. Okay, now, whenever a
client suggests a solution to me,

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all kinds of red flags go up and I
think you'll see the reason why, uh, he

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went to Disney World.

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So, um, I had to talk him off the
ledge, so to speak and you know, and I,

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you know, quietly explained it. Okay.
You know, uh, Disney world is, is

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fabricated, human made. The Grand
Canyon is a, is a natural sort of place.

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Disney world is, is very concentrated.
The south rim is spread over tens

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of miles and there's this, this
problem of style. Um, you know, this is

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not quite in the National Park Service
look that we, we'd like to project

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to the public. Although I have to
admit looking down the lower right, I'm

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really fond of the North arrow that
they have, you know,

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so um, what I did is I turned to the
National Park Service graphical

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identity roots. These were developed
by an amazing new york city based

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graphic designer named Massimo.
Finally, you can tell he's a graphic

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designer, he's, you know, he's dressed
in black and has a very serious

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expression. Uh but in 1972 he came up
with the unit grid system of, of

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brochures for the National park
system. Everything was standard. You know

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, we could, we could print on standard
sized sheets of paper, minimize

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waste. We had a common identity with
that black title title band. Uh it

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was just a phenomenally successful
program that finally came up with and

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also, you know, he was a big believer
in this more or less minimalist,

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give the public the information they
need to know, leave the stuff out

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that they don't need to see. Okay,
now, you know, Vignali was a, he was a

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designer, you know, he made product
packaging, he did interior design, you

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know, all made furniture, all manner
and stuff like that. He was not a

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cartographer, but he did dabble in
cartography Once He made the first ever

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New York City Transit Map. This was in
1972

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And some of you will notice that, you
know, this map is in the style

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pioneered by Harry Beck for the London
underground in 1933, I believe. Um

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so finally came out with the first
iteration in this modern style of the

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new york city transit map. Now, I will
say that this map was quickly uh

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replaced the public did not take to it
very well at all. It's, you know,

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highly diaphragmatic water areas are
shown with a color that I don't

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normally associate with With water.
You know, even in the polluted days of

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the 1970s.

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But one of the things that Vignali
did, I think what's very interesting on

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this is he, he treated scale
elastically to show all of the transit routes

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on Manhattan island. You could see
that he widened the island to get all

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of those in there. And that gave me
the big idea. You know, maybe I could

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do something like that for the south
rim. Okay, hold on to your seats. I

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got into adobe illustrator and loaded
up a proper plan, a metric base map

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of the south rim and then just started
messing around. And this is the map

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that I eventually came up with. Okay,
um, it's essentially a caricature of

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of the south rim. I'll admit that
right off the bat And let me explain

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some of the purposeful distortions
that I built into this map. The area

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within this yellow oval, uh, that's
about 2.5 miles wide. Remember the

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entire south room from, you know,
desert view to Hermit's rest is 32 miles

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, wow, I am really getting pretty
radical here and what's what's more uh,

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within that large yellow circle. These
areas, I further expanded just to

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air them out so I could show people
what was there and labor already now.

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Um, I will explain a few slides from
now how I conveyed this purposeful

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distortion to the public and you can
judge whether it works.

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So here's the, here's the map of, of
the, the base map of the south room

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that I created. Um, the first thing
that I did is, you know, you can see

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all the building footprints shown in
black. Now, if I was to ask you, what

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does the footprint of the Memorial
Union buildings look like from above?

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Does anyone really know? You know, I
sure don't, but I kind of know what

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it looks like from the outside. So the
first thing that I did was to show

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all of the buildings in this sort of
pseudo three dimensional style, this

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cartoonist style and Dory is going to
be talking about that. I think

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tomorrow is kino will probably see
something similar. You know, these

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things. Well, they look cute, they
draw attention to themselves and people

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could recognize them more readily than
standard footprints. Now I was, I

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was working very closely with my
colleagues at, at the park at all stages

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of this map design production. I
showed them this, this, this base map.

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And much to my surprise, a lot of
people did not realize that that darker

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beige color in the background was the
canyon and that lighter green area

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in the four grand was the Coconino
plateau. You know, you could see some

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some bits of cliff on on the left and
the right. I thought that would be

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enough to keep people in. Uh It wasn't
and it's always humbling to get

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this kind of feedback from people,
it's obvious to me, you know, you know

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what things work because I made it,
but other people are not seeing it. So

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I I added a little bit of topographic
texture to the background. And I

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think that removed all doubt as to
where the Grand Canyon was on on this

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map. Okay,

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next up I put a black band on it. You
know, we're the Park service, we we

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love our black identity um bands And
one of the things you'll notice on

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this map, the colors are very muted,
The roads are white and that's

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because this map also had to serve as
a transit map for the bus system

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which are color coded. And I wanted
these bright colors to apply to the

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bus routes. So I added the bus routes
inside the roads. So at this point

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the base map was more or less, you
know complete. Now I would say this map

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now is more or less picture and really
to bring you know, meaning to maps

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, you need to put labels on the map
and I have a couple of labels that I

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added to it.

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My original idea was that the map
would have probably half as many labels

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on there, especially on the, on the
periphery going out to hermit's rest

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uh, desert view. The park staff
reviewing this of which there was probably

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well over 100 people had different
ideas about that. Everyone had their

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own agenda. And so you know, over
time, over months I would get emails and

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I would kind of cringe. It's like tom
had this and this and that and so

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forth. It was quite the challenge. Um,
I tried to build in visual

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hierarchies with, with the labels so
you can see the most important things

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, you know, in the forefront, boulder
coming coming out. I also used all

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the symbols. I clustered them in areas
to give more weight to the areas

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where visitors would be going. So they
could, you know, focus on those

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areas first. Now you're probably
thinking, okay, You know, he crafted

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himself, you know, a pretty nice map
here, but it's completely distorted.

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People are gonna get confused by this
saying, how do you convey to the

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public that this map is not to scale?
It's grossly not the scale. The

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first thing I did is I put these,
these red scale arrows up at the top.

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You know, it's kind of says, okay,
this is, you know, so many miles from

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here to here. The park had this at the
visitor center desk. They were

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showing this to the public, no one
noticed it. Okay. You know, this was a

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cartographic fail. Um, it's like, uh,
this is the problem. So my my next

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solution was to, you know, put an oval
there. Okay, just kind of okay

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there it is. This, you know, map not
to scale, you know, this this area is

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enlarge and this was my working
version of the map for a couple of months

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thing took a long time to to make. And
uh I thought this was working out

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fairly well and about a week before it
was published, I had an epiphany

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instead of using just a an oval like
that with a drop shadow, I decided to

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make that oval into a magnified lens
itself kind of a device askew

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morphing device to say, okay, this
area is being in March. And look I I

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also put the red scale bars back into,
You know, in in uh studying

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cartography. One of the things that's
drilled into our head is that

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redundancy is evil on a map that you
don't do it. Uh throughout my, you

00:17:43.130 --> 00:17:47.867
know, 40 year career in cartography,
I've learned to cherish redundancy.

00:17:47.900 --> 00:17:52.127
People read maps and learn in
different ways and if you could come at it

00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:58.006
and with different approaches and
people get it so much the better. So

00:17:58.039 --> 00:18:03.836
here's the map. But wait, there's more
let's slide it down. Um of course

00:18:03.869 --> 00:18:06.286
this is the national parks if they
want to put all kinds of stuff on these

00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:12.217
things, you know, whitespace is evil
must it must be filled. Let's let's

00:18:12.250 --> 00:18:16.306
look at some of the other stuff that's
on the map, you know, distance

00:18:16.339 --> 00:18:21.607
charts for for walkers, bikers and
road distances. So you can refer to

00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:27.056
these charts and see how far things
are. Um pictograph symbols, these all

00:18:27.089 --> 00:18:30.756
these symbols representing all the
various services that you'll find at

00:18:30.789 --> 00:18:35.707
the national at the National Park. A
typical National Park Service map

00:18:35.740 --> 00:18:41.756
Probably has four or 5.6 of these
symbols on different symbols on it. The

00:18:41.789 --> 00:18:47.016
South Rim Pocket Map has the record
with 21. It's a it's a contest.

00:18:47.049 --> 00:18:52.707
Whoever has the most symbols wins and
they win by a long shot on this.

00:18:52.740 --> 00:18:57.157
Then there's the the the bus
information here. Now, one of the things I

00:18:57.190 --> 00:19:02.147
wanna show to you is that if you look
at the map above most of the bus

00:19:02.180 --> 00:19:06.927
routes run east west, don't they look
at the charts? How what's the

00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:11.367
orientation on those? Yeah, kind of
vertically? North south. Right. So

00:19:11.400 --> 00:19:16.536
there's a there's a there's a real
geographic disconnect between the two.

00:19:16.569 --> 00:19:20.996
I had originally designed the charts
so that they were horizontal in

00:19:21.029 --> 00:19:25.367
format. But the park overruled me on
that on that. And we have these to

00:19:25.400 --> 00:19:28.907
deal with right now.

00:19:28.940 --> 00:19:33.357
And the North arrow, the typical uh
National Park Service, North arrow

00:19:33.390 --> 00:19:37.887
just has the label north because east
and west is so important. I decided

00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:42.796
that I need to label uh those direct
cardinal directions as well. And also

00:19:42.829 --> 00:19:46.597
, I mean with six million people
visiting the park, I don't know if people

00:19:46.630 --> 00:19:50.306
necessarily, you know, if they just
see north would know which way east or

00:19:50.339 --> 00:19:53.957
west was in relationship to north. I
know it's, you know, you have to

00:19:53.990 --> 00:20:00.316
really account for everything. Okay,
The, as I mentioned, uh the map is 17

00:20:00.349 --> 00:20:05.516
inches wide. It has eight panels when
you fold it in half. Um, the map

00:20:05.549 --> 00:20:09.316
itself, the important, the heart of
the, of the south road appears in the

00:20:09.349 --> 00:20:17.286
, in the top four panels. My wife was
a hand model there. This map was A

00:20:17.319 --> 00:20:22.937
draft of it I created in the winter of
2015,

00:20:22.970 --> 00:20:28.347
The park printed up a small print run
of 300,000 copies to test to test it

00:20:28.380 --> 00:20:33.586
, doing user testing. Uh, it's very
difficult to the National Park Service

00:20:33.619 --> 00:20:36.867
, you have to get Office of Management
and budget approval. It can take 10

00:20:36.900 --> 00:20:42.276
minutes to do. They basically relied
on on the bus drivers and the staff

00:20:42.309 --> 00:20:46.326
at the visitor center For feedback
they were getting from visitors. After

00:20:46.359 --> 00:20:50.536
that, that initial print run of
300,000, they came back to me, I made a

00:20:50.569 --> 00:20:56.127
few tweaks to the map and then they
started printing it with print runs of

00:20:56.160 --> 00:21:01.306
3.5 million every year. And and that,
you know, that that really gives you

00:21:01.339 --> 00:21:05.457
pause. I mean you have to scrutinize
every label. You don't want a

00:21:05.490 --> 00:21:10.816
misspelled word when you have 3.5
million being printed. So that's the,

00:21:10.849 --> 00:21:15.177
the pocket map. It's, it's still in
use today, although I hear rumors that

00:21:15.210 --> 00:21:18.766
they may be swapping it out for
something else, but that's not my concern

00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:26.107
anymore. So let's move on to the
second map. So having dealt with the six

00:21:26.140 --> 00:21:29.107
million visitors who are congregated
on the south rim. They wanted a

00:21:29.140 --> 00:21:33.746
second map and this, this one showing
hiking below the rims for the more

00:21:33.779 --> 00:21:39.217
adventurous visitors to the Grand
Canyon. Here's a typical view down in

00:21:39.250 --> 00:21:43.967
the canyon. This is the south kaibab
Trail up near the top. Um, you know,

00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:46.526
you know, obviously this is a
completely different experience than what

00:21:46.559 --> 00:21:50.427
visitors on the rim would have. Um,
you know, for one thing, it's, you

00:21:50.460 --> 00:21:53.367
know, there's, there's a potential
danger. You know, you, you know, you

00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:57.677
walk down into the canyon, it's, it's
very seductive. It's, it's beautiful.

00:21:57.710 --> 00:22:00.627
It's an easy trail going down. But of
course the problem is you have to

00:22:00.660 --> 00:22:06.897
get back up and the parts of his just
just very concerned with that and

00:22:06.930 --> 00:22:10.586
people die there and we'll be hearing
more about death in the Grand Canyon

00:22:10.619 --> 00:22:14.296
tomorrow with ken fields talk in all
the morbid details that you want to

00:22:14.329 --> 00:22:19.927
hear. So, um, making a hiking map. Um,
I thought it was very important to

00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:26.637
, you know, show topography, uh,
properly um, on it. And I, in this case I

00:22:26.670 --> 00:22:32.056
turned to bread and barbara washburn,
inseparable couple from the boston

00:22:32.089 --> 00:22:35.776
Museum of Science, you're gonna be
hearing a lot about this map including

00:22:35.809 --> 00:22:40.506
later this morning, Michael fries talk
So I won't really get into this at

00:22:40.539 --> 00:22:44.806
all. I'll just say this, this is just
one of the most amazing mapping

00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:49.597
efforts ever done. It was it was it
was a family affair with with friends

00:22:49.630 --> 00:22:54.877
at first and then other organizations
got started and they ended up with,

00:22:54.910 --> 00:22:58.677
you know, the heart of the Grand
Canyon map. It was a seven year effort.

00:22:58.710 --> 00:23:03.516
As you know, Brett watched washburn
noted, you know, mapping the Grand

00:23:03.549 --> 00:23:07.576
Canyon the inverted topography of the
Grand Canyon. The challenge was like

00:23:07.609 --> 00:23:13.296
mapping a map, A mountain upside down.
It's not your traditional map. Uh

00:23:13.329 --> 00:23:19.556
He turned to swisstopo in Switzerland
for their their rock depiction

00:23:19.589 --> 00:23:24.397
skills to show the various cliff
bands. And I really liked this technique

00:23:24.430 --> 00:23:28.877
and I wanted to replicate it
digitally. I used a technique called texture

00:23:28.910 --> 00:23:32.816
shading which was developed by a
fellow named Leland Brown. He's a rocket

00:23:32.849 --> 00:23:39.556
scientist literally from southern
California, big hiker and he discovered

00:23:39.589 --> 00:23:45.187
a way to manipulate digital elevation
models such as we see here, darker

00:23:45.220 --> 00:23:49.526
is lower, lighter is higher in this
representation. And what texture

00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:56.006
shading does is it detects abrupt
changes in elevation on a digital

00:23:56.039 --> 00:24:00.137
elevation model and amplifies those
differences and with increased

00:24:00.170 --> 00:24:07.637
contrast. So if uh you know, another
uh person implemented in software

00:24:07.670 --> 00:24:11.697
called natural scene designer. And we
have some really nice um slider bars

00:24:11.730 --> 00:24:15.627
for for doing this. There's advanced
mathematics behind all of this. But

00:24:15.660 --> 00:24:19.016
if you slide the bottom slider over a
little bit, you can see how the

00:24:19.049 --> 00:24:23.947
contrast is increased. Okay, you can
see the ledge iness of Grand Canyon a

00:24:23.980 --> 00:24:27.717
little bit better. And if you slide
that that second from the bottom

00:24:27.750 --> 00:24:33.607
slider all the way over, look what
happens, it's an awful mess. Right,

00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:37.107
Okay. You're probably not too
impressed by what I'm showing you right now.

00:24:37.140 --> 00:24:42.296
Watch what happens now. Here's the
here's the central part of the Grand

00:24:42.329 --> 00:24:47.496
Canyon. The visitor center would be at
the bottom center phantom Ranch,

00:24:47.529 --> 00:24:52.647
kind of the targets that called I
think many of you recognize this. This

00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:57.607
scene. This is shown with shade relief
generated from a 10 m DM, the

00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:01.957
highest resolution DM. Now, publicly
available for the Grand Canyon. It's

00:25:01.990 --> 00:25:06.786
a pretty good shade relief. When you
say, let's combine that with texture

00:25:06.819 --> 00:25:13.447
shape. Okay, so this is uh 60% shade
relief, 10 40% texture shading with

00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:17.207
normal blending mode in adobe
Photoshop. And all of a sudden you start

00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:25.240
seeing the levels of the canyon much
much better. Now let's add those that

00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:32.107
really noisy texture on top of it. And
this is also a Photoshop with soft

00:25:32.140 --> 00:25:36.736
light blending mode. And you can see
the rock textures there. But wait,

00:25:36.769 --> 00:25:43.187
it's getting kind of noisy, isn't it?
So what I did is I took the DM

00:25:43.220 --> 00:25:49.187
created a slope mask from that and
eliminated the rock texture from flat

00:25:49.220 --> 00:25:54.967
areas and areas of gentle slope and we
have something that looks like this.

00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:58.617
This is getting pretty, pretty close
to, you know what the swiss were

00:25:58.650 --> 00:26:03.467
drawing by hand with their their rock
text drink. You can see the cliff

00:26:03.500 --> 00:26:08.107
bands very well, the talus slopes and
you can see the areas that are flat.

00:26:08.140 --> 00:26:13.367
Let's go back to the original shade
relief back to that product. So, I

00:26:13.400 --> 00:26:18.086
think that was an improvement. Now.
Uh, you know, this is this map is for

00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:21.177
the public, we don't want to leave it
grayscale, so it needs to be

00:26:21.210 --> 00:26:25.697
colorized and these are the colors
that I came up with, you know, I'll

00:26:25.730 --> 00:26:30.046
just say that the colors are just one
of those intangible aspects of map

00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:34.347
design. You know, people glance at a
map and you want them to relate to

00:26:34.380 --> 00:26:38.536
the colors to be attracted to it
instantly. You know, I think of colors as

00:26:38.569 --> 00:26:41.407
the pheromones of map designers, just
like, it's like dating. You know,

00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:45.536
it's like, yeah, the instant, like,
er, and you want to get that, I'm not

00:26:45.569 --> 00:26:48.207
going to talk much about the colors
here except for notice the colorado

00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:53.976
River. It's a nice, pretty blue. Yeah.
If I had shown the colorado River

00:26:54.009 --> 00:26:56.526
with this, you know, natural water
color, you would not see it on the map

00:26:56.559 --> 00:27:01.207
because it basically blends in with
the land. So, so, um,

00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:06.097
I had to make allowances here. Here's
the labels that I put on the map,

00:27:06.130 --> 00:27:10.347
note how the trails are highlighted.
Yellow at the visitors center. Is

00:27:10.380 --> 00:27:12.986
that the rangers often just get a
highlight our out and show you where to

00:27:13.019 --> 00:27:18.506
go. I saved them the trouble and just
highlighted it myself.

00:27:18.539 --> 00:27:24.627
And here here's the hiking back
compared to washburn's hardly Grand Canyon.

00:27:24.660 --> 00:27:28.617
You know, one of the things you'll
notice is that, you know, my map is a

00:27:28.650 --> 00:27:33.836
lot lighter and that's because
legibility is of paramount importance to

00:27:33.869 --> 00:27:37.417
the National Park service. We want
people to be able to read the labels.

00:27:37.450 --> 00:27:41.107
Uh, some of us like myself are retired
getting a little bit older. Our

00:27:41.140 --> 00:27:45.026
eyes aren't as you know, sharp as they
once were. We want all the labels

00:27:45.059 --> 00:27:49.736
to be readable frankly. If I had
turned in a map like washburn's, my

00:27:49.769 --> 00:27:52.597
bosses would have called me into the
private conference room for a

00:27:52.630 --> 00:27:55.806
conversation.

00:27:55.839 --> 00:28:01.576
But on the other hand, it's, it's
gorgeous. Here's the hiking map in its

00:28:01.609 --> 00:28:06.826
entirety, you know, so it shows the
three main trails into the, into the

00:28:06.859 --> 00:28:10.917
canyon in the upper left. You'll
notice that there's some distant charts

00:28:10.950 --> 00:28:18.006
up there. You know, it's green, yellow
and red. We're using the stoplight

00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:21.627
colors to kind of warn people that
okay, green, this is a place where you

00:28:21.660 --> 00:28:25.347
can hike down to pretty safely on on a
day hike. Yellow start using

00:28:25.380 --> 00:28:32.707
caution red, be really, really careful
and only experts should go. Okay.

00:28:32.740 --> 00:28:38.897
So two maps down. So map for hikers, a
map for visitors up on the rim on

00:28:38.930 --> 00:28:44.647
the south rim, there's still the park
brochure and we decided we would

00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:49.536
redo that from scratch. And I'll tell
you about how we handle that If we

00:28:49.569 --> 00:28:53.756
went back to 1982,

00:28:53.789 --> 00:28:57.107
this is the map that you would receive
when you entered the park. And

00:28:57.140 --> 00:29:00.806
looking at this, this looks like a
classic National Park Service map

00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:04.556
doesn't, it's pretty nice. It's got a
great scale shaded relief. My

00:29:04.589 --> 00:29:08.316
predecessor Bill von Almond airbrushed
that. Unfortunately, it's just kind

00:29:08.349 --> 00:29:12.957
of printed in a kind of a dingy gray.
Look at the colors on the map. Um

00:29:12.990 --> 00:29:16.786
They kind of dominate all else. You
see the park shape. You see, you know

00:29:16.819 --> 00:29:21.707
, surrounding you know, reservations
and federal lands and and so forth.

00:29:21.740 --> 00:29:27.677
The this the colors that you saw on
the map you see on this map don't

00:29:27.710 --> 00:29:32.016
really emphasize what visitors see
when they go to the Grand Canyon. Think

00:29:32.049 --> 00:29:37.397
about that first slide of java by
point at at sunset. This has no

00:29:37.430 --> 00:29:42.976
relationship to that at all. And that
really bothered my next cartographic

00:29:43.009 --> 00:29:48.526
hero, a fellow named Hal Shelton. He
was a trained fine artist from

00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:52.607
southern California through
happenstance. He found himself working for the

00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:58.367
U. S. Geological Survey as a
cartographer and he revolted against the use

00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:03.707
of administrative land colors and hips
metric tents calling them arbitrary

00:30:03.740 --> 00:30:09.897
what he advocated instead is the use
of natural colors on on maps such as

00:30:09.930 --> 00:30:13.006
you know what he would paint and that
painting that we see on the left.

00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:18.957
His brother was a geologist and a
pilot and pal would often fly around the

00:30:18.990 --> 00:30:23.306
western us with him and you know he
would look at the colors on the ground.

00:30:23.339 --> 00:30:27.296
His brother published geology,
illustrated some of you might know that

00:30:27.329 --> 00:30:32.687
that wonderful book. Anyway, what hal
came up with was a way of natural

00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:37.076
color mapping. We see that in the
lower right. And what's extraordinary

00:30:37.109 --> 00:30:42.576
about this technique Is that he did
this in the 1950s and 1960s. This is

00:30:42.609 --> 00:30:48.667
before the advent of satellites and
satellite derived land cover. So I

00:30:48.700 --> 00:30:54.447
mean this was really kind of a huge
leap and visualization of what the

00:30:54.480 --> 00:31:00.766
earth would look like from above and I
wanted to emulate this. So this is

00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:04.947
the initial mock up. I did this with
Melinda Schmidt the designer harvest

00:31:04.980 --> 00:31:09.377
very center. You know this is really
rough. You know how we saw the whole

00:31:09.410 --> 00:31:13.836
side of the brochure looking and um
what I want to focus on right now is

00:31:13.869 --> 00:31:19.467
this central section of the canyon and
show you how I developed a map with

00:31:19.500 --> 00:31:25.236
natural colors similar to hell
shelters um style. Right now we see a

00:31:25.269 --> 00:31:28.957
grayscale map. It's shade relief and
texture shading combined. Been there

00:31:28.990 --> 00:31:34.947
done that already. The Grand canyon is
largely an arid environment. So the

00:31:34.980 --> 00:31:39.286
first step is I just made it kind of
beige, made it look a little bit

00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:44.796
drier. But you know as most of us know
the Grand Canyon is more than Aaron

00:31:44.829 --> 00:31:48.836
lands. You know five of the seven life
zones in North America are found in

00:31:48.869 --> 00:31:54.566
Grand Canyon National Park. Yes. Can
you hear me having problems? Is that

00:31:54.599 --> 00:32:02.256
better? Okay I'll project thank you.
So I I wanted to show um forested

00:32:02.289 --> 00:32:08.526
areas. So I added a forest texture to
the high plateaus. Getting this

00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:13.776
involved going into the shop creating
a forest canopy of texture. You know

00:32:13.809 --> 00:32:17.897
graphically kind of looks like a
bacterium. But when applied to the map it

00:32:17.930 --> 00:32:23.536
kind of looks like forest. I hope I
initially was using the USGS National

00:32:23.569 --> 00:32:29.957
Land Cover Dataset which shows percent
forest canopy to apply that texture

00:32:29.990 --> 00:32:35.026
to the the plateaus. But look look how
ragged that distribution is. You

00:32:35.059 --> 00:32:40.046
can see some big fire burns and it's
it's kind of messy. So what I did

00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:44.907
instead is I used that same
distribution. I got a grayscale digital

00:32:44.940 --> 00:32:50.607
elevation model and I used this to
apply that that that green forest

00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:54.566
texture to the high high plateaus. Um
And I think it just works more

00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:59.207
successfully. I mean these these
grayscale DM almost look sensuous and I

00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:03.296
just wanted a you know a general
indication of where there was more

00:33:03.329 --> 00:33:07.586
biomass. You know in the on the
plateaus you know you'll notice it with

00:33:07.619 --> 00:33:11.137
the DM The higher you go, the lighter
it is, that means more green would

00:33:11.170 --> 00:33:16.467
have um fall onto the final map. So
here's the here's the map with the

00:33:16.500 --> 00:33:20.917
forest textures added. Now usually
when designing a map, there's there's

00:33:20.950 --> 00:33:26.046
one element that's the crux of the
design and that's the next one I'm

00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:29.107
going to show you.

00:33:29.140 --> 00:33:35.236
It's the I wanted the canyon really to
pop out. So I got into Photoshop

00:33:35.269 --> 00:33:38.707
and just tinted it, you know this, you
know, kind of bright glowing color

00:33:38.740 --> 00:33:45.266
. I think you have a P point again now
and and I make this sound very you

00:33:45.299 --> 00:33:50.236
know, casual, you know to put that
tint in. I actually had to go in and

00:33:50.269 --> 00:33:56.367
spend six hours tracing the rim of the
of the canyon. Notice how on on the

00:33:56.400 --> 00:34:00.316
tributary Canyons Kanab Creek and
Havasu Creek, they kind of fade out.

00:34:00.349 --> 00:34:06.687
They're not as strong. So that applied
that that color to the canyon. Now

00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:09.706
I think this is you know, getting a
step in the right direction but it

00:34:09.739 --> 00:34:13.747
doesn't look quite as deep as it
should. So in the next step I went back

00:34:13.780 --> 00:34:19.057
to that digital elevation model and
use that to darken the canyon bottom,

00:34:19.090 --> 00:34:24.767
okay, etching it right into the
colorado Flatow. And I think it added

00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:29.836
benefit to this is that you know it
shows the the inner gorge better. And

00:34:29.869 --> 00:34:32.657
of course, you know in the inner gorge
we have the pre Cambrian, you know

00:34:32.690 --> 00:34:40.307
vishnu shifts and those, those darker
rocks, which is map suggest?

00:34:40.340 --> 00:34:47.077
All right, then I added some very
subtle highlights and blue shadows to

00:34:47.110 --> 00:34:52.956
the highest areas. You will toggle
this a couple times. It's subtle, but I

00:34:52.989 --> 00:34:55.887
think adding blue shadows to the
higher area suggests that you were

00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:59.697
getting into the hut, Sony. And uh,
you know, you know, climate realm up

00:34:59.730 --> 00:35:04.606
on the kaibab Black Child.

00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:12.639
And now, um, I had the Colorado River
notice that the Colorado River is is

00:35:12.869 --> 00:35:16.977
multi colored. Um, you can see sun
glints on it. I did this for a couple

00:35:17.010 --> 00:35:21.456
of reasons. I I wondered the river to
be noticeable and having glimpse

00:35:21.489 --> 00:35:24.517
gives it a little more life and and
the river courses that, you know, it's

00:35:24.550 --> 00:35:28.706
dynamic, it's it's flowing and by
showing the sun glints, it suggests that

00:35:28.739 --> 00:35:36.276
dynamism, dynamism of the river. Now,
one last touch to this map was

00:35:36.309 --> 00:35:41.407
adding foreground shadow and
background Hayes, if you if you look at

00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:45.827
classic landscape paintings by the
Hudson River school of painters or

00:35:45.860 --> 00:35:49.387
thomas Moran's grand canyon of the
Yellowstone, you'll notice that the

00:35:49.420 --> 00:35:53.497
foreground is often very dark. The
background is kind of hazed out a

00:35:53.530 --> 00:35:58.057
little bit and that kind of directs
your eye to the center of the painting

00:35:58.090 --> 00:36:02.756
, the same thing can be done with a
map. And so, you know, with that

00:36:02.789 --> 00:36:06.606
foreground shadow in the background.
Hayes were now focused almost

00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:10.997
exclusively on on the camera itself,

00:36:11.030 --> 00:36:15.697
base map is complete. Can you guess
what's coming next?

00:36:15.730 --> 00:36:22.997
A couple of labels and, and actually
there's fewer labels on this map.

00:36:23.030 --> 00:36:25.586
This is the first cut at the labels,
they were, they're showing up fairly

00:36:25.619 --> 00:36:29.756
well. Then I added halos and and drop
shadows to make them pop a little

00:36:29.789 --> 00:36:35.077
bit more. one thing to notice on this
map is what you don't see, you don't

00:36:35.110 --> 00:36:39.256
see roads do you? The park boundaries
in there, it's very light, it's a

00:36:39.289 --> 00:36:44.637
yellow light. This map is intended to
show the Grand Canyon in its its

00:36:44.670 --> 00:36:50.796
natural splendor without the imprint
of humans. Now I do have some

00:36:50.829 --> 00:36:55.706
cultural reference points on there.
I'm I'm very, I'm very surprised I did.

00:36:55.739 --> 00:37:00.606
I made a draft this map a year and a
half ago. I thought that the park

00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:04.787
would insist on showing roads and all
this other stuff. They really held

00:37:04.820 --> 00:37:11.646
off. This is the final map in the
brochure. This, this incidentally was

00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:15.646
printed about three weeks ago. So in
the next couple of months when you go

00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:21.307
to the park, you'll be receiving this,
this map. Um My colleague, Melinda

00:37:21.340 --> 00:37:26.327
smith did the layout on this. What's
interesting is by and large National

00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:32.506
Park staff. They tend to focus a lot
on the text and the photographs on

00:37:32.539 --> 00:37:37.427
these brochures. The maps, they don't
scrutinize nearly as carefully and

00:37:37.460 --> 00:37:43.006
it's it's probably good that they do.
Um This was a very early draft and

00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:48.006
it was a major major problem that was
discovered on this after one week.

00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:52.416
If you look at the little inset map
down at the bottom left, you'll see a

00:37:52.449 --> 00:37:59.097
little critter sitting on it. Okay.
That is a ring tailed lemur from

00:37:59.130 --> 00:38:02.186
Madagascar.

00:38:02.219 --> 00:38:09.586
Um Let's fix it. There's a ring tailed
cat.

00:38:09.619 --> 00:38:14.267
Can you imagine printing 3.5 million
copies with a lemur on it? There's a

00:38:14.300 --> 00:38:20.836
reason why we take our time and and
and and get these things. Right, okay.

00:38:20.869 --> 00:38:22.887
 Um

00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:28.526
Oh and I'll add one more thing.
There's aversive to this this map and

00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:32.816
includes more interpretive information
including a splendid geologic

00:38:32.849 --> 00:38:37.956
column which carla Carlstrom
contributed to. And we'll be hearing more

00:38:37.989 --> 00:38:43.816
about that hopefully later in the
conference. So um very quickly and I'll

00:38:43.849 --> 00:38:50.657
finish this thing up. How we doing for
time. Okay. Um this is a map that I

00:38:50.690 --> 00:38:57.126
created in The year 2000. Um it's it's
a panoramic map of the of the Grand

00:38:57.159 --> 00:39:03.206
Canyon and my inspiration for this was
Heinrich Moran. He he's an Austrian

00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:09.856
was an Austrian. Now, obviously and in
his career he painted over 500 ski

00:39:09.889 --> 00:39:14.747
area Panoramas and um panoramas of
other places. Ocean bottom maps, you

00:39:14.780 --> 00:39:18.816
know, including four panoramas of
national parks, you know here we're

00:39:18.849 --> 00:39:24.686
looking at Yosemite. He also painted
Yellowstone Denali and north cascades.

00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:29.947
Uh you know, these are, you know, one
m wide posters that he created.

00:39:29.980 --> 00:39:34.617
They're they're absolutely lovely and
wonderful. Incidentally, we um we

00:39:34.650 --> 00:39:40.126
digitally remastered all of his
artwork recently. They're up online. I

00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:43.046
have a U. R. L. At the end of my talk,
go there, download these things.

00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:45.727
They're absolutely beautiful there in
the public domain. You can print

00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:52.526
them out in all their uh colorful um
glory. Um Anyway, Baran was a master

00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:56.916
of painting panoramas, you can see
him, he's wearing his favorite vest,

00:39:56.949 --> 00:40:02.577
he's a he was a flamboyant character
and his artwork was also flamboyant

00:40:02.610 --> 00:40:07.267
and he inspired me to create a
panorama of the national um Grand Canyon

00:40:07.300 --> 00:40:12.376
National Park. Now I'm not nearly as
flamboyant as Baran nor are my maps.

00:40:12.409 --> 00:40:18.776
And then this was intended to work as
a get around map for the south rim.

00:40:18.809 --> 00:40:23.427
Yeah. One of the things, one of the
important things that I borrowed from

00:40:23.460 --> 00:40:30.166
Baran was how to portray the
foreground and the background in the in the

00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:34.356
panorama. If you're flying over
landscaping an airplane like I was

00:40:34.389 --> 00:40:38.997
yesterday afternoon, you're by the
window, you look out the window and you

00:40:39.030 --> 00:40:42.597
look toward the horizon, you see the
horizon line and the sky. Okay?

00:40:42.630 --> 00:40:47.807
Everything is in profile. If you turn
your eyes down and look down,

00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:52.146
everything is plan a metric, it's more
map life. That's very hard to get

00:40:52.179 --> 00:40:58.206
in a three D oblique view generated by
computer software. So uh looking at

00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:01.586
this map of the Grand Canyon, you'll
notice that the foreground is fairly

00:41:01.619 --> 00:41:07.017
map like and in the background you
could see the profile of the north rim

00:41:07.050 --> 00:41:12.336
fairly well, I achieved this with the
software called terrain bender by

00:41:12.369 --> 00:41:17.747
Bernhardt Yeni then of Oregon state
University now of Monash university

00:41:17.780 --> 00:41:23.186
and Melbourne Australia with terrain
bender. What you could do is load a

00:41:23.219 --> 00:41:28.267
digital elevation model and warping.
This is kind of a common theme in a

00:41:28.300 --> 00:41:32.756
lot of my mapping is distorting and
warping things. Um but with terrain

00:41:32.789 --> 00:41:38.046
bender you could add curvature to A.
D. M. And when you look at it from

00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:43.526
the front it forces the foreground
into more of a planet metric view and

00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:48.936
the background looks more as if it's
in program and this is the final map

00:41:48.969 --> 00:41:52.736
that resulted Again this was in the
year 2000. You know I thought that

00:41:52.769 --> 00:42:00.769
this was kind of a wild solution for
the Grand Canyon uh map to my Utter

00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:04.936
amazement, they actually used this for
15 years. Uh it really had a really

00:42:04.969 --> 00:42:08.796
really had a long range run and this
is in a park that likes the swap out

00:42:08.829 --> 00:42:13.427
maps very regularly. So I was quite
pleased that that it lasted as long as

00:42:13.460 --> 00:42:21.037
it did. Well I will I'll conclude
right now making a few statements When I

00:42:21.070 --> 00:42:25.856
when I began my career in cartography
just about 40 years ago, you know I

00:42:25.889 --> 00:42:31.186
looked at you know people like Moran
and Washburn Vignali Shelton with you

00:42:31.219 --> 00:42:35.767
know you know amazement, you know they
were the pillar of cartographic

00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:43.537
excellence. They were the people I
aspired to emulate and thankfully you

00:42:43.570 --> 00:42:46.367
know during the course of my career
something really wonderful happened.

00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:51.117
It was the digital revolution. We have
now marvelous you know cartography

00:42:51.150 --> 00:42:56.157
and G. I. S. Tools, you know, gobs of
fantastic geospatial data available

00:42:56.190 --> 00:43:01.967
uh fantastic graphical software at our
disposal. And I'll say that you

00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:05.436
know, most of us, you know with a
little bit of perseverance and these

00:43:05.469 --> 00:43:10.776
wonderful tools and these wonderful
data can now achieve what these former

00:43:10.809 --> 00:43:16.066
masters of the manual era created. And
it's it's just a wonderful thing I

00:43:16.099 --> 00:43:20.447
think nowadays is is the best time
ever to be a cartographer. You know,

00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:25.586
given what we can do. You know adobe
had this this tagline some years ago.

00:43:25.619 --> 00:43:29.506
You know if if you can dream it you
can do it. And that's quite literally

00:43:29.539 --> 00:43:34.227
the case with cartography nowadays.
And I'll say it's more appropriate

00:43:34.260 --> 00:43:38.497
than ever when you're mapping a place
like Grand Canyon National Park. So

00:43:38.530 --> 00:43:42.927
I will end on that note and open the
floor to any questions you have. Mm

00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:49.967
hmm. Mhm mm hmm.

00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:58.000
Does anybody have,

00:44:06.869 --> 00:44:10.157
Did I break it? Gosh,

00:44:10.190 --> 00:44:14.856
who's up there is the question.

00:44:14.889 --> 00:44:19.956
We'll take that Gentleman 1st. That
handsome gentleman Peter Corvette

00:44:19.989 --> 00:44:26.256
and

00:44:26.289 --> 00:44:30.856
peter I'm gonna throw this to you ha

00:44:30.889 --> 00:44:35.597
it still works and how it works. Tom I
wonder if there's a record of the

00:44:35.630 --> 00:44:41.986
National Park Service maps going back
to the 1919 forward that you that

00:44:42.019 --> 00:44:49.427
somewhere in some collection my my
office has him going back to

00:44:49.460 --> 00:44:55.836
around World War Two. So we, you know
at Harpers Ferry center, we have all

00:44:55.869 --> 00:45:00.796
those maps and brochures going back to
that time. Um I would say that the

00:45:00.829 --> 00:45:04.227
Library of Congress, geography map
division would be the place to go to

00:45:04.260 --> 00:45:08.057
find everything else.

00:45:08.090 --> 00:45:12.956
Probably not.

00:45:12.989 --> 00:45:17.896
So it looks to me like in your maps
that you pretty much understand this

00:45:17.929 --> 00:45:23.856
or whatever, but how aware are
cartographers in general with the

00:45:23.889 --> 00:45:30.856
colorblind males in the US? Well,
you're you're talking to one right now.

00:45:30.889 --> 00:45:37.666
Mhm. I'm a sufferer of Torino pia. No,
um I've slightly red green color

00:45:37.699 --> 00:45:45.267
blindness. So I'm usually if I can see
the colors fairly well. Most people

00:45:45.300 --> 00:45:50.916
with red, green color blindness can
kind of see him. Um What I try to do

00:45:50.949 --> 00:45:55.787
is when I'm using reds and greens is
to have a value difference uh between

00:45:55.820 --> 00:46:00.896
the reds and the greens so you can
differentiate them um that way. But

00:46:00.929 --> 00:46:07.296
yeah, it is, it is a concern. And
unfortunately not all cartographers take

00:46:07.329 --> 00:46:11.646
that into account. I can think of some
some major map publishers who just

00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:16.046
blow it off. You know,

00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:21.336
two questions. 1st one is if I showed
up at Harper's Perry, could I get

00:46:21.369 --> 00:46:27.856
maps of Grand Canyon bryce Zion, what
have you from the Park Service there

00:46:27.889 --> 00:46:32.387
? Is that possible? And the second
question is, who are these people that

00:46:32.420 --> 00:46:39.646
get to live in this village in the
Grand Canyon. Mm hmm. Yeah.

00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:43.776
Yes. If you showed up at Harpers
Ferry, we you know, we usually have about

00:46:43.809 --> 00:46:49.856
a dozen of each new printing of the
maps and brochures available. But it'd

00:46:49.889 --> 00:46:54.456
probably be easier if you went to um
federal office buildings in any major

00:46:54.489 --> 00:46:57.767
city. They there's usually a
Department of Interior National Park Service

00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:02.117
office there where you can find these
maps. So that would be a little bit

00:47:02.150 --> 00:47:08.146
easier. What was your second question?
Who lives in Harpers Ferry?

00:47:08.179 --> 00:47:11.767
Oh. Um you know, I would say it's, you
know, National Park Service staff

00:47:11.800 --> 00:47:18.347
and a lot of contractors and
concession owners as well. And independence.

00:47:18.380 --> 00:47:20.546
 Yeah.

00:47:20.579 --> 00:47:25.137
Hi. Uh that's loud. Um I was wondering
about what you said about the

00:47:25.170 --> 00:47:28.657
elasticity of scale, like how you
manipulated that. And then also the fact

00:47:28.690 --> 00:47:32.276
that you changed like the river blue
like um because that attracts people

00:47:32.309 --> 00:47:35.456
more and if like you had it as its
natural color will blend in. I was

00:47:35.489 --> 00:47:38.916
wondering if you thought that there
was a trade off between like keeping

00:47:38.949 --> 00:47:42.166
things to their like natural skills
and natural colors and attracting,

00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:46.097
like people like, like having people
understand that map better. Do you

00:47:46.130 --> 00:47:49.477
think there's like there's like a cost
to having things like more

00:47:49.510 --> 00:47:52.407
attractive at the cost of like maybe
the truth of what they actually look

00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:55.586
like. Mhm. Yeah, that's a that's a
really good question. And it's

00:47:55.619 --> 00:48:00.626
something that I've pondered a lot
throughout my career. My natural

00:48:00.659 --> 00:48:05.727
inclination is to you to make create
maps with colors that are as true to

00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:09.916
nature as possible so that someone in
a park holding a map in your hands

00:48:09.949 --> 00:48:13.486
can make a connection between that map
that they're holding and what they

00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:21.327
see in in the landscape around him.
But sometimes you have to um alter

00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:28.356
that philosophy, a little bit of a
classic example of altering it would be

00:48:28.389 --> 00:48:31.896
the the greens that you would use in a
place like the Grand Canyon to

00:48:31.929 --> 00:48:35.577
represent forest. If you if you're up
in an airplane or if you're looking

00:48:35.610 --> 00:48:40.026
at satellite data of the green forest,
you look behind me, it's really

00:48:40.059 --> 00:48:46.896
really dark and um you know, dark
green is a visually recessive color but

00:48:46.929 --> 00:48:50.336
it's at the top of the plateau is the
highest areas you look in the canyon

00:48:50.369 --> 00:48:55.876
, it's reddish, right, red pops up. So
what you have is a graphical

00:48:55.909 --> 00:49:01.037
inversion of the landscape going on.
Um So this this is a problem

00:49:01.070 --> 00:49:05.256
throughout the interior West. So my
solution in that case would be to use

00:49:05.289 --> 00:49:09.287
much lighter greens than what you
would observe on the ground to represent

00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:15.336
forest and darker reds, you know, in
the canyon and in the more desert

00:49:15.369 --> 00:49:20.256
lowland areas to make it work
graphically as a map. And there is this, you

00:49:20.289 --> 00:49:25.787
know this this you know sort of tug
tug of war between geographic reality

00:49:25.820 --> 00:49:31.936
and graphic reality that the
cartographer has to remedy.

00:49:31.969 --> 00:49:36.267
I guess that's me. I I was intrigued
by your your last statement about how

00:49:36.300 --> 00:49:40.467
today is the best time to be a
cartographer with with the tools that are

00:49:40.500 --> 00:49:44.486
available over the course of your
career. You saw this change happen. But

00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:48.387
you also must have retrained yourself
for the park system must have

00:49:48.420 --> 00:49:51.907
retrained. You can can you talk for a
minute about what that transition

00:49:51.940 --> 00:49:56.977
was like and and and and what the what
the office was like at the time

00:49:57.010 --> 00:50:01.046
when the computers were coming and the
masking tape and the markers were

00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:06.706
going away. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I
obviously had my my my background in the

00:50:06.739 --> 00:50:11.666
in the late part of the manual era and
I have to confess that I was kind

00:50:11.699 --> 00:50:17.327
of a late comer to digital
cartography. You know, not until the early

00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:21.967
nineties that I see the the whole
field of digital cartography and G. I. S.

00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:27.916
Turning a corner where the tools and
the data to create maps that started

00:50:27.949 --> 00:50:34.146
to rival what could be created
manually. So I I kind of went into it, you

00:50:34.179 --> 00:50:39.586
know kicking and screaming a little
bit but I'm so glad I did because it's

00:50:39.619 --> 00:50:43.456
just unleashed a whole new world of
possibilities graphically and

00:50:43.489 --> 00:50:49.497
choreographically. Yeah. I mean at at
harpers Ferry Center initially the

00:50:49.530 --> 00:50:54.327
maps were not even made in house, they
were contracted out. Which is often

00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:59.057
the case with the government uh R. R.
Donnelley uh cartographic systems in

00:50:59.090 --> 00:51:02.876
lancaster pennsylvania did the initial
maps. Eventually the park service

00:51:02.909 --> 00:51:07.267
built up and in house staff and took
over production photo mechanically in

00:51:07.300 --> 00:51:11.586
house. And then, you know with the
arrival of of computers and digital

00:51:11.619 --> 00:51:17.227
data. We uh we started doing
everything in the house and much quicker and

00:51:17.260 --> 00:51:21.727
better and more beautiful I would say.
Yeah, it's been it's been a

00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:27.296
fantastic ride. I feel very privileged
to have you have seen this major

00:51:27.329 --> 00:51:32.526
technological revolution occur you
know, during the span of my my career

00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:36.197
and you know, just starting off in the
manual era, you know a shaded

00:51:36.230 --> 00:51:41.736
relief. Uh what I could now create,
you know in in an hour might take me a

00:51:41.769 --> 00:51:45.907
month back in the old days. People
sometimes ask me, you know, do I miss

00:51:45.940 --> 00:51:53.137
you know, doing manual shaded relief.
And the answer is no. It

00:51:53.170 --> 00:51:57.626
was a it was a means to an end you
know. Yeah.

00:51:57.659 --> 00:52:01.947
For the last one. I just wondered when
you made your first trip to the

00:52:01.980 --> 00:52:04.336
Grand Canyon?

00:52:04.369 --> 00:52:10.006
Did you come when a visitor? Yeah. I I
came out there as a visitor and I

00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:15.526
spent less than four hours there.

00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:21.659
Yeah. But obviously I kept on coming
back. Thank you verymuch