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I remember sharing your selection committee. Um we had a group of our

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coaches in and athletics and I was the
assistant athletic structure in

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charge of academic and student
services and was very fortunate to be able

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to lead the search um when you came to
us, it was real apparent the depth

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of your experience and the deep care
you had for the sport itself,

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softball, but also the history um was
really unparalleled. I mean it was

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such a delight to hear about your
commitment and we weren't sure you would

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come, but we're very excited that you
accepted the offer um and moved from

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the cold winters of Minnesota to
Arizona state. And as I recall when you

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moved here, it started sort of a
domino effect because there weren't that

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many head coaches of women's sports um
available who were at the top level.

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And so as I recall you came here, the
Oregon coach maybe went to

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Minnesota to fill that position and
then I think you were assistant. I I

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happen to know the Oregon director and
this is how so many of the leads

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started on who, who was the best
candidate out there to hire. I happened

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to play golf with the director of
athletics at Oregon and I told him about

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, I believe Tammie Brown

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who was here and she took the Oregon
jobs. So our hiring of, of linda

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wells as a head softball coach. I
believe only the second softball coach

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in NHL history um really transformed
softball at four universities. It was

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kind of amazing how how it works. Yes,
it was that domino of um yeah, kind

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of merry go round tammy Brown who
played here in a great athlete for coach

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Littlewood was going to be my
assistant and then went to Oregon and by now

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um there has been the starting gate of
the National Fastpitch Coaches

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Association, the Professional
Association of Coaches for Softball. It's

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true, the vast majority of coaching
positions in volleyball, basketball

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and softball were filled by women. I
coached um those three sports at

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Minnesota until um 1981, I in 78 I
gave up basketball in 81, I gave up

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volleyball, so when I came here I was
only coaching one sport at Minnesota

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and came here to coach one sport at um
Arizona State, I had been by then

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the past president of the Coaches
association and was very engaged with

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also the International Softball
Federation, who is the International MGB.

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So the olympic arm then, And that's in
1989 and then I do my 16 years, I

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can I remember to this day coming to
the campus and just kind of feeling

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the fit, just kind of knowing. Um and
having said that of course I had, I

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loved Minnesota, I go back there,
great life, friends and All the alumni,

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I'm so appreciative to them and for
the opportunity to be there, but it

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was out of the cold and it was also, I
had coached there for 18 years and

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I'm now asking myself, am I going to
finish my career there, which would

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be probable or am I gonna just give it
the old college try and try

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somewhere else because I hadn't been
somewhere else. Was I going to finish

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my career and wonder what it would
have been like to be somewhere else.

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And I fly into phoenix and I meet you
in Tempe and

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it's just um a beautiful place. The
colors are the same maroon and gold,

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you don't have to change my colors,
you know, need a little different

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embroidery, but you know, and I'm sure
that you knew coach Littlewood

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through the many associations that
coaches and the competitions that you

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had over the years. Um the idea of
following such a legendary inaugural

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coach, the founding coach of women's
softball, who really started when it

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was more of an intramural kind of club
sort of sport. Um It must have been

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Incredibly exciting at the time. I
mean I am fortunate because I came here

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in 1974 in many different roles, but I
had the opportunity to know coach

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Littlewood along with moral packer,
who coached multiple sports, one was

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badminton, um Mona Plummer um and
Pittman, the weekly beginnings of

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women's coaching at Arizona state and
they too did everything they taught

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physical education classes, they
supervise student teachers, they coached

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2 to 3 sports. Um they were on all the
committees because every committee

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had to have a woman and we didn't go
very far because there weren't very

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many of us. Um, everyone was in
faculty women's association. Even if you

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weren't a faculty member, it's just
the only women's organization that was

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here at Arizona State before
university career women started for the staff.

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So I mean, it was a privilege for me
to be in the same building and, and

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, and many people may not know at
Arizona state that the building now

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called PE West used to be called the
men's chip and P East was the women's

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gym and uh our athletic department um
didn't really even merge until the

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mid seventies. It was the men's
athletic department which was athletics

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and then women's athletics was in the
physical education department. So

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that history is something that, you
know, released, it's important to

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capture and you came within about a
decade of now. Yes. And so I'm having

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that same experience Minnesota now I
come in here and it's upscale. I mean

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, you've just moved into the Carson
building. You know, the many of the

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facilities have been upgraded and
renovated and there's plans for softball

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and um, some of the other sports to
really have an opportunity and coach

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Littlewood is, I mean she's already a
legend. So the opportunity to come

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in and be a part of this program,
especially um you know, I loved my years

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in the big 10, but coming to the pac
10, it's the premier conference for

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softball. Mhm. If the weather is so
attractive after battling the snowy

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spring potential and and really being
on the road to be competitive at at

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Minnesota and so loved all those times
and now I'm ready. You know, here's

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the bougainvillea, you know, it's
here. So, you know, I think I think it's

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fair to say we just we became friends
and you know, your boys are teeny

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tiny and it was really just coming
along, I think what was Danny was here

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and Tommy, yes, and then here comes
Joey. And so um yeah, it was just um a

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great place.