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Hi, everyone. Thank you for staying to the bitter end. Um, I do appreciate

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every single one of you for being here
and a special round of a hall once

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again for Matthew, Matt, for inviting
me and posting this. It's incredible.

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Just share the love in the knowledge
of the Grand Canyon. Today I want to

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talk to you a little bit about the
Grand Canyon Trust who we are, what we

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do. And then to give you a sneak peek
behind the scenes into the JS

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program, we work a lot behind the
scenes so a lot of people actually don't

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see what we do except for the final
product. So I'll give you a little

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glimpse into my world.

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The I'm going to have to fiddle with
this computer for a second. One

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second. Sorry.

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There.

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Can we get rid of the note, huh?
Sorry. I really don't want the notes,

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okay?

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Perfect. Okay, Thank you. Uh, the
Grand Canyon Trust was established in

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nineteen eighty five, mainly around
natural resource issues around the

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Grand Canyon.

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And soon after, the establishment of
the trust became very clear that the

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threats did not stop at the edge of
the canyon itself, but extended much

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further into the Colorado Plateau. And
an impassioned plea was made that

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the trust extend their work beyond the
cannon and across the entire

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Colorado Plateau. Today, our mission
is to safeguard the wonders of the

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Grand Canyon and the Colorado Plateau
while supporting the rights of

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native peoples. We envision a Grand
Canyon and a Colorado plateau where

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wildness, a diversity of native plants
and animals, clean air and flowing

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rivers abound. Sovereign Charbel
nations thrive a livable climate indoors

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, and people passionately worked to
protect the region they love for

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future generation shins. Our focus,
um, in our team's work collaboratively

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together across many different areas
across the plateau are Native

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American team works to support inter
tribal networks, build resilient

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economies and help protect ancestral
homelands are energy. Team has taken

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on a very bold challenge for carbon
neutrality across the Colorado Plateau.

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By two thousand thirty five and works
to prevent uranium contamination,

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an unconventional field development.
We work in a variety of facets across

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our public lands to protect and
restore them and advocate for a better

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balance of livestock grazed and
livestock free public lands. We have work

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to do springs restoration across the
North Rim in southern Utah and work

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on market based strategies to restore,
mitigate and adapt in the face of

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water scarcity. But today I'm not
going to talk about Haldeman all the

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many aspects of the Grand Canyon
Trust. But I'm going to talk to you

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specifically about the G. I s program.
Um, what have been working to build

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since two thousand twelve and what
we've been recently working on for

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Grand Canyon. So in the GS program, we
work on advanced cartography. We

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also perform spatial analysis and
interactive Web mapping. We take this

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further into interactive storytelling,
providing data visualizations in

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strategic planning for all of the
Grand Canyon trust conservation programs

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as well about as well as our
communications and our development teams. So

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let's get into Grand Canyon and what
we've been doing recently.

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Most of our work for Grand Canyon in
the recent years has primarily been

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in the education and outreach arena.
We've been doing this by working with

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E every story. Maps platform. Um, one
example of this is our threatened

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waters. Grand Canyon's Seeps and
Springs interactive story map, which

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takes users through a journey of the
precious springs that exist

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throughout the Grand Canyon region.
And the work that we're doing with

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volunteers to restore these springs
across the North Rim Land ants.

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Another example of a story map that
we've produced. This is actually an

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older map, then the threatened waters,
um, Grand Canyon's seeps in Springs.

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This is the Keep the Canyon Grand map,
which actually is an every award

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winning story map that won the two
thousand and fifteen story, My second

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place in the injury ah, story map
competition at their user conference.

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This one tells the story of Grand
Canyon and its threats, threats with

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uranium mining as well as development
threats across the canyon, and tells

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the story of people fighting to
protect the canyon from these threats, a

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recent one that we produced in honor
of the Grand Canyon Centennial on one

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of the things that brought us all here
today, is the story map that we

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created called the Grand Canyon in one
hundred. Image is one of the things

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I like to do A lot of times is break
the rules for anyone who knows me

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well. And so with this story map, we
used it in a little bit of different

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way than what folks normally use the
story journal for. Normally, they use

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it like that. Keep the canyon grand or
the threatened water story where it

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has a lot of text that you walk
through. This one actually is a photo tour.

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Um, So instead of using the photo tour
or the photo Siri's that as we

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provided, we decided to do this, um,
within the story journal. And I found

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out on my way here, um, that isra
wants to highlight this in their march.

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Blawg. So we'LL see if that happens.
Um so keep an eye out for that. You

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never know when it comes to media if
it's going to get bumped or if

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they're going to pick it up or not. Um
so I wanted to give kind of a

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behind the scenes into my approach.
When we create these stories were

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always integrating interactive maps
into them. But we try to make the

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interactive products as versatile as
we possibly can. So within the

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interactive matches, always a goal to
use the text on the side. So, like

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in this Cascade type layout, where
we're trying to draw people into what

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the content of the map is that way, if
they don't want to interact with

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the map, they quickly already get your
message. So the message here was to

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highlight how many volunteer hours
which we've laid out directly with the

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five thousand six hundred. If you want
to dive deeper, you can dive Eve

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because it's an interactive map. The
other thing that we can do is we can

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highlight the stories of our
individual volunteers, and this is quite

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precious. Um, and I was going to read
it, but I can't read the tiny print

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on this. So if someone

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if someone can read it, I thought it
would be boring, but it's actually

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pretty exciting. There's an A T V and
I get to dig in the mud and there's

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frogs, and it's actually pretty cool
out here. The next generation of

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conservationists

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seven years old, By the way, one of
the other great things with these

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interactive story maps is to take them
out and use them throughout. Our

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website used them as engagement tools
so people can better understand if

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they want to get out in the field
where we've been and how many volunteers

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have been there. So this is an example
where we've used this map on our

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volunteer page. Or if we want to zoom
into a specific area, you can see

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what kind of restoration work that's
taking place there. We have plans to

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expand this into the future, so keep
an eye out. Um, and of course, if

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anyone is familiar with the Grand
Canyon Trust or the G. I s programs work

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in its first get a hand of people who
are familiar with the trust. Already

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, Clark

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and how many are familiar with our
devious program or some of the products

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that we've produced in one way or the
other great hands two years? Well,

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so cartography is a huge part of the
work that we do. Obviously, we're

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place bass, and I don't have to tell
this crowd how important it is to

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have maps in order to understand that
place. Um, it is not the only tool

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that you can use, but it is a very
power for one, especially in our modern

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technology technological days. So, So
cardigan Cartography is definitely a

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very strong pull for me personally is
something that I love. And I love

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telling this story, and I like to tell
the same story in different ways.

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Um And so here in the Grand Canyon,
what I did is they turned the Escalade

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development that was proposed for the
confluence of the Colorado in the

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little Colorado River and displayed
this and almost a three D type

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representation. So when you look at
it, you go. Wow. Someone actually

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really wants to build a gondola down
to the confluence. And exactly,

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that's the exact reaction we want to
see. Hands in the hands to the face

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of shaking your head. Another type of
map that I have created recently is

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this active mining claims within the
mineral a trawl around Grand Canyon.

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Here we have graduated circles to
represent the number of claims held by

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each of the individual companies. And
I'LL come back to this one a little

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bit more in one of my challenges of
mapping the Grand Canyon of the

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example of data.

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But one of the things I do
strategically within the jazz program is to

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take a product and not allow it to be
static, but to make it into an

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interactive in a level livable
breathing document where people can dive

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deeper into the issues some more
Recently we have launched this exact same

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data and an interactive form that you
can go on our website and explore

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the individual claims around the
canyon. We're going to take this one step

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further and mapped these into three D
Colin columns bending art gs pro to

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our will.

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Thank you to David Vines, my genius
associate who painstakingly worked.

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I'm pulling these claims into a three
d view.

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The other thing that is not quite
traditional mapping, but it is creating

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graphical representations of the
issues that we face within conservation.

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Here you see an example of the
brassica pipe in uranium, or typical of

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what you would find around Canyon Mine
on the south rim of the Grand

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Canyon.

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So not everything we dio is mapping
threats, although unfortunately, that

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seems to be one of the primary things
that I've been working on working on

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the past couple of years. We also get
to map protection of the of the

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Grand Canyon. On Saturday,
representative Jehovah announced the Grand

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Canyon Centennial Protection Act. Um,
I produced a series of maps for our

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communications team, and the idea here
is to create a Siri's where it can

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be simplistic, um, and to create a
series where there's some style and

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there's options for media. If anyone
wants to grab some of these maps to

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help us spread the word for the Grand
Canyon Centennial Protection Act, So

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I'll just walk through quickly. It's
not. This isn't rocket science. I

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just take off the background, keep it
simple, and a lot of times media is

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more likely to pick it up. Then they
are. If it's actually styled. So, um

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, with each of these examples that we
can add in the minds, we can add in

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the claims represented in a little bit
of a different way. It's a bit much

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to ask media to grab a product that
takes readers three or four minutes to

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try to digest. So the goal here is to
give a snapshot in with our society

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that seems to have a hard time
focusing in. Hopefully, we can capture

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capture them in a few seconds so we
could take the background back off.

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Let's make it a little simpler. So I
wanted to share a little bit of my

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personal story and my challenge when I
was faced with mapping Grand Canyon

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for the first time. And it's a
challenge I still continue to face as a

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cartographer. Um, I am from North
Carolina, so I was used to a, uh,

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topography that kind of made sense.
Um, we go from the mountains in the

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West to the foothills rolling hills,
and the Piedmont gets a little

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flatter in the coastal plain. And when
it comes to shaded relief, that was

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really simple to map. It didn't have
to put a lot of thought into it. Well

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, when Roger Clark are Grand Canyon
program director, want to meet a map?

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Grand Canyon? It was a very different
story. I found that those typical in

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traditional shaded reliefs really
oversimplified the desert environment,

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often times making some of the places
that are hotter. Give this sense of

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coolness by being blue. So I worked
for quite some time. It took me

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several years before I found the Grady
in't that I really loved. But I

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worked to create a personalized,
shaded relief that mimic the vegetation

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and rock layers that you see across
the Grand Canyon in the Colorado

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Plateau. So here you see an example on
the right is, um you will see the

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aerial imagery and on the left is my
shaded relief. The idea is that

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they're very close together.

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The other thing that I encountered
when I stepped into mapping the Grand

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Canyon was this challenge of contours.
Um, I am an avid hiker and

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backpacker, and so I wanted to map
contours at a interval that you would

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actually go on the ground and used
like a topographic map. One of the

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number one request I get from staff is
also to map contours. So when I

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tried the first time to ever go in and
do this, I threw in some intervals

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. I actually didn't pull the one that
I did because I deleted thumb

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because I never used them. But at even
at the one hundred foot interval

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trying to map this, the Grand Canyon
became this gray blob that was

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completely useless. Um, so then I
discovered, Well, I'm gonna have to do

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much larger interval, So this isn't
going to be useful for really anyone

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on the ground. And so if you actually
pick up a copy of the map that is

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over there, it is not meant for you to
go out and try to hike with that

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map. Please don't unless you are very
familiar with those trails. So

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ultimately with a lot of cartographic
magic. Um, when If you're curious on

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how I do it, I don't have time to go
into those details with you here

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today. But I'm more than happy to
share some of my tips and tricks there.

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But with some cartographic magic, we
end up with a really nice rendering

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of the Grand Canyon in concert lines.
Again, don't take it out on the

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trail. If you're interested in
actually going out on the trail, you should

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check out Grand Canyon trust dot org's
Forest Last Hikes. We have the

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Colorado Plateau Explorer, which talks
about some of the hikes around the

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Colorado Plateau and the conservation
issues that we face within those

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landscapes. So the other thing that I
faced when I looked at these

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contours was an oversimplification of
the area on the Coconino Plateau. Um

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, so here I finally achieved within
the Grand Canyon a more simplified

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view with the contour lines that I
thought was aesthetically pleasing. But

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I had lost a lot of detail on the
plateau areas, and so for this specific

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product, we covered it up with the
textbooks. I didn't have to solve that

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problem that is still something that I
face, um, consistently, especially

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when our staff members want a
topographic map and want a topographic map

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of the entire Grand Canyon. Yeah,
right.

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So one of my little things just my
little nuggets that I like to do when I

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am working with the Grand Canyon, and
it's at a skill where I could do

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this a lot of times, you see, um, the
center line portrayed for the

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Colorado River. Well, we know the
Colorado River to be far more dynamic

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than just the center line. There's
areas that are whiter. There's areas

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that are narrow, and I like to show
those within my cartographic products.

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So I take the contours on either side
of the canyon and shade that area

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in instead of using a line to
represent the river. And then I add a couple

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of little things like, um lighting to
try to give it just a little bit of

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a shimmer. I want to work harder to
try to make that representative to the

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rapid location, so maybe in a couple
of years you might see some products

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that are more realistic to the ground,

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Um, so real quickly, they just want to
walk through the data challenge,

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which I don't think if any of you have
worked with data and G i s, you

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know that this is probably one of our
number one hurdles. Um, So I just

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wanted to use the example of the
mining claims a map that I showed you

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earlier. So that data is pulled from
the Beale them, And it comes from a

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database called the L. R. Two
thousand, and this is special data. It is

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referenced by the Meridian Township
range and section. So when I saw that

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, I was like, Oh, I can use this Well,
I thought I could It was not as

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easy as I thought it was going to be.
So what I found out was that the BL

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EMS data set for the P. L S s does not
match the unique identifier for

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Mirian taint Township rains and
section within the two databases. So what

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happens? They don't link. So in order
to fix this, I had to either decide

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to add the P l s s um township range
in section ID into the er l r two

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thousand system or to integrate the
Meridian township rations section from

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the L. R. Two thousand into the pls, I
decided to integrate it into the P

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. L s s system. This way that any time
we want to look at the mining

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claims at any time, stamp of time,
that is already done. And then all we

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have to do is connect the data itself.
Because as soon as I downloaded

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this data, it was out of date.

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So once we connect the two databases
here, I'm presented with another

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challenge. The challenge where we have
multiple claims that stack into one

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area. How easy is it to take an area
and map by the claim holder the

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number of claims that they hold, but
it's represented by a little square

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that stacks up on top of each other.
Um, so we needed to convert that into

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something that was easier for people
to understand. My solution was

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running some frequency statistic. It
statistics by the climate of the

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claim holder and portraying those as
graduated circles, hence getting Tio

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with some more cartographic magic, the
final product that you see today.

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I wanted to give you a little glimpse
of what's up. What's next for the

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program? Um, we've been working Teo,
create a product for the upcoming

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spring advocate where we're going to
be showing the differences in the

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boundary in the history of Grand
Canyon National Park. Um, this

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compliments very closely and article
that Roger Clark, who is in the

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audience today and has been speaking
with people for the past couple of

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days, um, it complements his text
directly, and this is on purpose. We

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customize all of these prat the
cartographic products to directly fit with

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the text of the advocate itself just
real quickly. I'm not going to go

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through each of these because if
you've been here for the past couple of

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days, you've seen these already, or
they're sitting around in the room.

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But each of these are some of the
historic maps that we pulled together

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for this effort and pulling them in
and again thanks to David Vines for

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digitizing doing through the pain of
digitizing these and we will be using

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them. So Okay, take a look at the
Spring Advocate. If you're not a member

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of the trust and you don't receive one
of these by mail, you can become a

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member of the trust and receive one by
mail. Or you can also find them

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online when we do launch the online
versions. Another sneak peek of

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something that we haven't quite
released yet. But we've been playing

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around with his other forms of three D
mapping to map the threats and the

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protection opportunities within Grand
Canyon, and we'LL spread it out

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across the entire Colorado Plateau
once we perfected a little bit. So if

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you're interested in the Grand Canyon
Trust, if you're interested in the

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products that we create, see what
we're up to from time to time, you can

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find a lot of our products on Grand
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in time. Follow us on Facebook. Follow
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video. All of these places um, it
helps us. It helps get the word out. Um

00:20:12.724 --> 00:20:17.082
, these things work by use
individually sharing it, and then it pops up on

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your friend's page and it goes on and
on. If you're so interested. I also

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have a twitter page. I admit that I'm
horrible at keeping up with it,

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trying to be better.

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What anybody have any questions?

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Oh, Kevin.

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Hi, Stephanie. Thank you for your
work. Hi, Kevin. Thanks for coming.

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Quick question. Have you have you
thought about or made any maps that

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attempted, uh, depict the auditory
landscape linnean soundscape

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specifically in relation to areas
where you can experience natural silence

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unimpaired by human sounds? I love
this question. Um, Ellen, um, a lady

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who works with us in the Grand Canyon,
her and I have been talking about

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creating some sort of soundscape for
quite some time. Um, it is something

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I would absolutely love to do. And, um
uh, basically, what it's going to

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take is getting those audio or lack of
audio, Um, that natural sound in

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the places where we need it. Perhaps
the sound of a rapid, um, or, uh, an

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animal captured on tape. And then what
I would also like to do is compare

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that to the areas where it's not so
quiet. Um, like the helicopter noise

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that we here in Grand Canyon. Um and
so I think that could be quite

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powerful to see what it could be
versus how people actually exist within

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the canyon at times with all of this,
all the noise. Thank you for that

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question.

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I'm

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Well, if you have a have a location
associated with them will map it.

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I'm glad to see that you stripped down
some of those illustrations and you

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mentioned that the media are, like,
more likely to pick that up and use it.

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And also for the reader, I still get
it newspaper in the morning. And

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when they print these images, you
can't even read the text on him. You

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can't read the type and they're
blurred out, so less is better. As far as

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I'm concerned for that, if you want
real details that you'LL get, you know

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, go online, get a digital version. A
lot of people may have that by

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reading than these paper online, but I
still have the print copy, so

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that's a good improvement for me. So
one of just a comment to kind of

00:23:09.223 --> 00:23:12.821
follow up on that, um funny, like,
funny story where I find it funny at

00:23:12.854 --> 00:23:19.591
this point when I first started
stripping and simplifying the maps it it

00:23:19.624 --> 00:23:24.180
calls waves, people really did not
like information being taken off of the

00:23:24.213 --> 00:23:28.581
map that I still spend quite a bit of
time having to justify everything

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that's being stripped away. Um, and so
it's difficult. You have to find

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that balance of how much information
do you put in? And how much

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information do you keep out? We
probably spend just a much amount of time

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Brainstorming what not to put in as we
dio what you put into the mouth.

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One hundred years later. I'm wondering
why do we still have active mining

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claims in the canyon, huh? You and me
both. Uh um So I encourage you If,

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um, if there's something that means
something to you, um, the mining

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claims to stop this permanently.
Please let your representatives know that

00:24:07.503 --> 00:24:11.960
you support the Grand Canyon
Protection Act, and let's make this which are

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all permanent.

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Stephanie. Thanks for your work and
for the work of your organization,

00:24:26.567 --> 00:24:31.724
Grand Canyon Trust in helping to
preserve this area that, um, everybody

00:24:31.757 --> 00:24:35.524
loves so much. I was occurring to me
as I was listening Everybody's

00:24:35.557 --> 00:24:40.224
presentation that people do this work
because they love it and you don't

00:24:40.257 --> 00:24:44.903
always get that in academic
organizations. And it's clear that you love

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what you're doing and love the place
that you're working on. You mentioned

00:24:48.936 --> 00:24:52.313
something about a mapping springs in
an effort to try to protect

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freshwater systems. And it reminded me
of the growth of citizen science,

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the work that the spring Stewardship
counsel is doing. And EPA has a

00:25:03.287 --> 00:25:06.653
citizen science website. I wonder if
you could talk a little bit about the

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role of getting citizens involved in
developing data that can then be used

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in mapping projects and for
conservation. So our volunteer crews are quite

00:25:16.807 --> 00:25:21.393
powerful. I think you actually have a
couple or had a couple of volunteers

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better sitting around. Has anyone
volunteered with us on any trips that

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air in here or helped lead a trip?
Wendy, I'm going to point you out. Um,

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the data that's collected, there's no
way that we could do all of this on

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our own. Um, and the data is very
important. And without that data, um, I

00:25:39.957 --> 00:25:43.563
can't create what I'm creating, and it
doesn't inform the issues that

00:25:43.596 --> 00:25:48.214
we're fighting, um, are fighting
against or fighting for. And so the

00:25:48.247 --> 00:25:52.893
citizen force that we take out is
again quite powerful, and it ranges. Um

00:25:52.926 --> 00:25:56.793
, sometimes they're doing something
where it takes years before it's ever

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actually digitized or put into
something in a cartographic sense. Um, are

00:26:00.797 --> 00:26:04.234
sometimes we're doing something that's
a little more instantaneous. Um, an

00:26:04.267 --> 00:26:07.853
example of that is our where cows
don't graze project that we're actually

00:26:07.886 --> 00:26:13.343
doing in southern Utah, Um, where it
is directly fed into, um, and every

00:26:13.376 --> 00:26:16.793
survey the survey one, two three
application. Once they fill out their

00:26:16.826 --> 00:26:21.303
survey online, we're directly mapping
the work that they're doing, um,

00:26:21.336 --> 00:26:24.204
with the springs restoration work.
It's something that we've been doing

00:26:24.237 --> 00:26:26.956
for quite some time and do with it and
have done with a lot of other

00:26:26.989 --> 00:26:32.666
partners and especially along the
North Rim lands, working with the Spring

00:26:32.699 --> 00:26:37.416
Stewardship Institute in northern
Arizona and um, feeding information back

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into their system

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Hi. I apologize that this is not a
question that it's, uh, um,

00:26:48.159 --> 00:26:51.426
specifically pertinent to your talk.
Although I want to thank everyone for

00:26:51.459 --> 00:26:56.105
setting this up and all the
presenters, It's been wonderful. I did miss

00:26:56.138 --> 00:27:00.815
yesterday, So perhaps this was
answered yesterday. Um, for forty years,

00:27:00.848 --> 00:27:04.966
there has been a geologic colored
geologic map of the eastern half of the

00:27:04.999 --> 00:27:09.035
Grand Canyon. Easily available up the
books, shops and bookstores at the

00:27:09.068 --> 00:27:13.555
canyon. But there hasn't been a
western, half a colored version of the

00:27:13.588 --> 00:27:17.265
Grand Canyon. Geologic maps, like
teach geology, So color geologic maps.

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They're helpful. Do you know? Did I
miss? Is there one available now was

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Oh, you're working on?

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Oh, okay. Thank you. I'm sorry I
missed that. Thank you.

00:27:35.528 --> 00:27:39.595
And I'm sure Dr Carl calls from ask.
Use my voice. I'm sure Dr Carl calls

00:27:39.628 --> 00:27:42.275
from will be happy to follow up with
more details about that. But yes.

00:27:42.308 --> 00:27:46.476
During his presentation, hey spoke
about ongoing mapping efforts and he

00:27:46.509 --> 00:27:49.876
did speak specifically about the
nineteen eighty dragon map. That colorful

00:27:49.909 --> 00:27:53.295
blue map I think that you're referring
to that is now unfortunately out of

00:27:53.328 --> 00:27:58.845
Prince partially, he explained to two
one of the perennial dilemmas of

00:27:58.878 --> 00:28:03.595
paper maps. They're inherently
unwieldy, their large the store. So that's

00:28:03.628 --> 00:28:07.406
part of the reason that I guess
they're not so commercially viable. Any

00:28:07.439 --> 00:28:12.855
other questions will take one more.

00:28:12.888 --> 00:28:20.005
There's someone waving. Oh, Carl
Churchill, you want You can catch this

00:28:20.038 --> 00:28:26.862
and do me a favor. Why don't you walk
over here and, uh, you go?

00:28:26.895 --> 00:28:31.803
Hi. Um, I was way off in the corner,
so maybe I didn't see. First of all,

00:28:31.836 --> 00:28:36.662
I love the less is more approach to
cartography. Get that off my chest. Um

00:28:36.695 --> 00:28:41.753
, what sort of soft or you planning on
using for those three D maps that

00:28:41.786 --> 00:28:46.392
you're hoping to put out? Um, I'm
gonna actually put David on the spot for

00:28:46.425 --> 00:28:49.943
a second. David, do you remember what
the company is that created that

00:28:49.976 --> 00:28:55.563
plug in? It's a plug in that goes into
photo shop, by the way.

00:28:55.596 --> 00:28:59.922
Well, there you go. Three D map
generator.

00:28:59.955 --> 00:29:05.463
You would think I would remember that.

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Thank you. Thank you very much.