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 okay.

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Yeah yeah.

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Yes how we're gonna go through first
and I'm gonna ask you for your basic

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information so you can just say your
name and spell it your your date of

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birth, we'll talk about that like you
know how they gave you a birthday

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and if you picked your own birthday,
your village you are from there.

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We're gonna go through your village
life, tell me about what you remember

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your favorite memories. Um and then
we're gonna talk about war coming and

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then the refugee camp what you you
know go into the refugee camp in life

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there and then coming to the United
States and in the very end I'm gonna

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ask you just to say some words about
how you want to be remembered or what

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you want people or maybe a message you
have for people and then if you

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want to say something in your native
tongue, everybody ends up with the

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native time.

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So yeah. Mhm. When you're ready

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and this is this is camera is meant to
shoot movies so it only does it

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take and then it kind of shuts down
and then we start up again and then

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keep going so we take a little break
so okay and we also have to clap.

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Okay

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thank you so much for coming dang. And
um as I mentioned this is the oral

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history project, it's to save your
your history forever and ever. As long

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as the issue is there people can go
and see what you went through and what

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happened for you to come here. So I
want you to start off with just give

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us your name. I just my name's thing.
Mhm. Oh but okay and if you can tell

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me your date of birth when you were
born. 11. Okay and I know that all

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lost boys are given january 1st. Yes
everybody but do you remember roughly

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when you were born, Was it during the
rainy season or what do you remember

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about did your mom tell you when you
the month you were born or do you

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know actually I know because I my mom
Redaying alive my dad is still alive

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and I went back in 2011 so they tell
me exactly every day I was born. So I

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was born May 1970

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3 73. Okay okay that's great. Can you
tell me what village you were born

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in uh town? Okay and then I know that
there's many different tribes in

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South Sudan. Can you tell me what
tribe you come from? And then with clan

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? Oh yeah I was coming from dinner
twice so um think about twice to be

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different over there. So I was a
tweet. Yes. Uh huh. Oh decline I come

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from all is when you're school when?
Okay that's that's small. Okay. Okay

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thank you. So now we're going to go
into a bit about your your childhood

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and your village life if you can tell
me about growing up in your village.

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What was it like? How did you spend
your days and any special memory you

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have. So tell me about your village.
Oh yeah exactly. That time I was

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really young. I just remembering just
come a little bit. So all this time

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I was gotten so like maybe we play
around cow and good and go to see them

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maybe highlights and beat them. So and
did you go to cattle camp camp? So

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that's the way life we go through
with. The last time we left the time I

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was elected I was four years, four
years old to go to Sylvia. Uh You don't

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remember? I can't remember all this
stuff. Well that's yeah life over that.

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But do you remember the cattle and uh
and I think my brother and all my

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relatives around that. Uh How many
brothers and sisters do you have?

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Actually? I have like none of them. So
but they're not

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for

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you. Okay. Are you the only one who
comes who lives in America? Yes. Okay.

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So when you were very very young, do
you do you remember stories about

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how war came to your village or have
you been told what happened about

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when war came to your village? Yeah.
Actually at this time the war broken

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on is um like tower. So that this was
a nice time at this time. So

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something happens. So this they say oh
yeah just be hearing all they have

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a gun around. Stop help that my uncle
disrupt me. They run to me. Yeah.

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Yeah and then where did you go? Do you
remember? So we went to a little

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bit camp. You have someone camp he was
people maybe people gathering over

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there so and after that the people can
together and as you know other

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train to another like this. Okay so
after that you just kept walking, kept

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going Until you came to a refugee
camp. Yeah we shared we was 9:19

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87. That's time we work and work and
work and work. We go to the camp now

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the way it is the world you want
people leaders keep it over there because

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they need us over there. So that's the
way we go we see working many. He

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just went into the line then. Yeah I
see a lot of people a train

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flying and I see a lot of fans so they
crocodile river. Uh So yeah for

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that we go to that scale the super
camp So we can't use that one. Yeah so

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okay so after that we go there we get
hunger no over there. So Also maybe

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we get all the one

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it's like one being We do buy like
three. So you give them just going a

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little bit and stuff and eat up
tomorrow we get to school through just one

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being one of the four people who just
want category piece. So we need

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people like did your aunt and uncle
help you along the way

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they died? They died. What happened to
this? So real was

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so they get sick enough that's all.
How old were you at that time? I was

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abuse 77 years. So still very young.
Yeah. And then so then you were there

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in P. M. And then your aunt and uncle
died and then you stayed with my

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uncle. My uncle sent over there is a
big big guy and they helped me about

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too. So that's uh that's one of those
boys from us but they didn't come

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here because they didn't call. Okay
there was robert e skin kenya. So the

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same number there right now. He's
still there back there back in South

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Sudan. Okay to backtrack a little bit
you were mentioning that you saw

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friends eaten by lions and crocodiles.
Could you hear that at nighttime?

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Could you hear the lions coming in?
Yeah the night time they were getting

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a lot of noise. We work because we're
walking the line. You know sometimes

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they take someone and you would walk
at night time. Okay. Um and so but

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your aunt and uncle protected you. But
then when you go to the camp then

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they passed away. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
And then how did you, who took care of

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you then? Did you take care of
yourself? Oh yeah because we have two other

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because in the last boy remember that
the last boy we came in together and

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join together because we have some
people wanted to ask. So they take care

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of everybody around. Uh huh. So then I
war breaks out in Ethiopia. Right?

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Yeah. With the World Cup in 1991

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and then remove back in Sudan we come
across the river. Do you?

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So after that we have a lot of people
million people. That's a lot of were

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you one of the first people to cross?
So it was before the everyone in the

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panic. And yes. So when you were in
the camp, did you start going to

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school there? How was that? Tell me
about the camp in school. Yes.

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Very nice. But this all relax for
understanding english. Right. So we go

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there. Yes, we don't have the papers
and stuff. So we go down

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to remember? And that's why I went
through high school over there. How

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could you get out for what? Come on.
Okay. And then uh oh in Ethiopia you

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were you were there until high school?
No, no. No. Uh So in Ethiopia you

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went to school until grade school? Uh

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To two. Great. Okay. Like 1st and 2nd
grade there. So when war broke out,

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you were one of the first to cross um
was it called when you were crossing

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or was it was it the drowning or was
it?

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So they don't have exactly what we
are. So you saw that. Okay. How did you

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get across the river? Did you swim?
Did you get in the boat? Yeah, that's

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I was swimming by swimming myself.
Okay. Because that was, you know, and

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you know, we go up there the river and
swim a little bit. So you knew how

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to swear. Others didn't uh some people
some people they do. Some people,

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some people don't know the dream swim.
So the did that's why the people

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remaining one. All right now. I know
it's terrible. So then after that,

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what happened? You you went uh part of
Ethiopia back to South Sudan, back

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in South Sudan. And we was uh so wecan