WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.106 So then do you arrive in there? And what was your life there? How long 00:00:05.139 --> 00:00:10.306 did you stay? Actually interesting love. It was me and my sister who 00:00:10.339 --> 00:00:14.687 eventually made a cartoon. Okay. Everybody else went back. Oh the 00:00:14.720 --> 00:00:17.506 government has turned back. My mother and my older brother and my father 00:00:17.539 --> 00:00:24.717 went back okay because things were stable. Okay. The rebel. But they did 00:00:24.750 --> 00:00:27.767 you all get to cartoon and then they went back somewhere along the way 00:00:27.800 --> 00:00:32.646 they left. Why did you continue? We continue because of the prospect of 00:00:32.679 --> 00:00:38.336 getting education. Oh I have relatives and go to okay. My parents send my 00:00:38.369 --> 00:00:42.906 sister and I first they sent my sister the year before and I've fallen 00:00:42.939 --> 00:00:50.366 problem. Okay. And it was go there have a stability eventually 00:00:50.399 --> 00:00:56.427 and this and and traveling like that and not having much money. And how 00:00:56.460 --> 00:00:59.987 did they get word that things had calmed down enough that they could go 00:01:00.020 --> 00:01:05.277 back. There's constant movement of people traveling back and forth. Okay. 00:01:05.310 --> 00:01:08.897 That's how yeah. Yeah. It was like somebody called them on a cell phone 00:01:08.930 --> 00:01:11.257 or 00:01:11.290 --> 00:01:16.186 radio. There were radio. Remember it was mostly word of mouth because yeah 00:01:16.219 --> 00:01:20.857 because we were it's called Quarter fund. So that Central Sudan we were 00:01:20.890 --> 00:01:24.887 literally on the way in the middle of people coming from the north coming 00:01:24.920 --> 00:01:29.587 from the south and back and forth? A lot of travel back and forth people 00:01:29.620 --> 00:01:36.137 giving news about the situation. Yeah. And so then they return um and do 00:01:36.170 --> 00:01:41.107 you remember that separation or do you remember them going back and and 00:01:41.140 --> 00:01:44.967 actually my father within those 2.5 3 years my father was going back and 00:01:45.000 --> 00:01:50.307 forth. Who he was he was going back and forth. Mhm. To South Sudan and 00:01:50.340 --> 00:01:54.546 south. Where you guys back coming back and even going tomorrow. Okay. To 00:01:54.579 --> 00:01:59.316 go through my relatives eventually he said it would save enough for the 00:01:59.349 --> 00:02:04.367 rest of my family members to go. But they wanted me to go to go to. Mhm. 00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:09.367 Yeah. Okay. So then you went there and you went with your sister or she 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:14.096 went ahead. I went ahead of the next year. Okay. And where did you live 00:02:14.129 --> 00:02:20.006 when you were there? When you go to it was towards the 1990 because I 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:27.797 remember celebrating 2000. Okay. Right at the end of the century, century 00:02:27.830 --> 00:02:33.307 century and you would have been held by then or something they say. Yeah. 00:02:33.340 --> 00:02:40.506 Yeah. Yeah. And where did you live when we lived in cartoon? Uh 00:02:40.539 --> 00:02:44.066 It was tense. Yeah. We're relatives. Yeah. But we lived in a tent because 00:02:44.099 --> 00:02:49.726 we couldn't afford to rent a house or something. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it was 00:02:49.759 --> 00:02:53.457 just like a slum or something at the exterior city or I don't know how to 00:02:53.490 --> 00:02:58.906 describe it. It's a building here let's say it's a room. Uh one bedroom. 00:02:58.939 --> 00:03:03.247 No, you didn't have you know the zinc metallic cover. Okay. That's what we 00:03:03.280 --> 00:03:07.427 could afford. Okay. You live in there and it would always be adjacent to a 00:03:07.460 --> 00:03:12.617 wall because in Sudan back then houses there would be a wall around each 00:03:12.650 --> 00:03:18.006 and every house. Oh yeah. Okay. And so we would just 00:03:18.039 --> 00:03:23.506 look for a place, ask for a neighbor first to give us you know 00:03:23.539 --> 00:03:28.897 the permission 2 to 1 bedroom there adjacent to the wall. I see it yeah 00:03:28.930 --> 00:03:34.267 kind of kind of squatting squatting. It wasn't always approved by the 00:03:34.300 --> 00:03:37.066 local authorities. And so what would happen and eventually what happened 00:03:37.099 --> 00:03:42.487 to it? One of our bedroom is he was bulldoze. Oh by the local authorities. 00:03:42.520 --> 00:03:48.406 Really? We were in the land that didn't belong to us. It was illegal. 00:03:48.439 --> 00:03:52.707 They were trying to discourage that. They were trying to discourage them. 00:03:52.740 --> 00:03:58.436 But you you you lived in a space like that. And did you go to school? I 00:03:58.469 --> 00:04:03.406 went to school. Okay. Actually I didn't go to school for the first time uh 00:04:03.439 --> 00:04:07.027 starting when you were about eight. 00:04:07.060 --> 00:04:12.027 And how was school conducted was conducted in english 00:04:12.060 --> 00:04:16.916 and Arabic that's hard to miss the fish emergency then. So do you still 00:04:16.949 --> 00:04:21.906 speak every asked me there? Oh yes. Well how long did you go to school 00:04:21.939 --> 00:04:26.616 when I was in Khartoum. Yeah a year, a year and I only did a year. So I 00:04:26.649 --> 00:04:30.106 went to grade one. Yeah. Okay. And then in 2000 and one. So that was in 00:04:30.139 --> 00:04:35.866 2000. Okay. Right great. I finished great one and then when I was about to 00:04:35.899 --> 00:04:41.897 go to great too. My family members to say usually Egypt. Oh in 2000 and 00:04:41.930 --> 00:04:45.856 one? Your whole family, The whole family. Okay. So you went to Cairo Egypt 00:04:45.889 --> 00:04:53.889 ? And did you have family? No photos of yourself? Yeah. Yeah. 00:04:54.050 --> 00:05:00.306 And uh so what was your like they're like your father's going from living 00:05:00.339 --> 00:05:05.360 in South Sudan in a village where subsistence in.