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 And then, where in kenya did you go? Oh God, what? Just good. How long

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were you there? Good night. nine
years. 9 years. Okay. And did you go to

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school? There are going to school?
That's why. Okay. Okay.

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What was life like there? So the life,
uh, they are, the life is terrible

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because I love it. It's the same lies,
phoenix. Arizona. Here lies. We

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don't know what you see here will be
how people, we have to win every time.

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They don't waste time. How about food?
Did you have enough food to eat?

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Yeah, we have a little bit, but it's
not a big food. So you can you help

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us about it? So,

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so when you heard about, they were
taking people to America or Australia

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or Canada. Did you want to go right
away? How did you? Because I defend

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defend when you're

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so if that's the choice the idea
because your name over there, we need to

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go. But everybody needs to go. So we
are we here That we need to program.

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So yeah. Did you get picked right away
or did you? How long did you wait

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to get my program? Say listen, year
you stay here. Yeah. Okay. So after

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that that I was a fast, we was a group
interview.

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So that's uh, there is uh, there's
something going on and just w our

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leases go back again. We'll wait and
wait and wait and wait for that

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interview. Yeah.

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And then finally your name, You saw
your name on the board.

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You're my friend and my dad

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days. Well, what happened on my name?
Uh and then tell me about your trip

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here. What did you think about the
airplane? Right? Tell me where you

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landed. Did you come to new york? And
then from there I come from new york.

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 So

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what month was it? Was it much in
March called? How was your airplane?

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Right. And the airplane food? Oh it's
sometimes uh is weird a little bit

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because that's the first time. Oh
yeah, so it's so we'll see one thing is

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the one thing I take it. So that's
what I know what is the function of it.

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So I don't know what what I I don't
want to use it. Yes, I

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look too strange.

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And then you went to, so you left from
Nairobi to where where did you

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build? I have to Nairobi to uh do from
new york from new york from phoenix.

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So you came straight to Phoenix? Yeah.
Okay. So were you one of the first

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ones like Johnny to come here a long
time. Okay. One but I was 2001.

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And then tell me what you thought when
you got here to phoenix? Oh yeah,

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last time I was coming here in phoenix
and I hardly sponsored. I was

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coming. I was coming on minor. It's so
I was coming. So you came to live

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with the family,

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my sponsors an airport and we was in
route for boy and they said, oh yeah

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you go you start crying because I miss
all of my friends because I don't

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know where they go to. So I don't want
to lose this mm tough. How was your

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family? Were they a good family?

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Did you still get to see your brother?
Your people that you came with

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the week we find with

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what high school did you go to high
school? Okay. And then you graduated

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from Thunder. I go to a college, a
college and I go to issue it's good

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money degree over there. Okay. How
close are you to getting your degree?

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You did you finish your degree? And
what is your degree in? And my kids?

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Oh okay. That's a tough degree. Yeah.
Right now I'm working on my okay,

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what's your master's program? Which
masters degree in? Uh Yeah I started I

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need a

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nursing first. Okay. Very good.
Sometimes you need a goal, what do you

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need to be doing? Right. And you need
to get to work and have a job. Right.

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 Yes. But a

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Uh huh. Okay. Okay. So so let's talk
about that when you first came, you

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were with your family? Did you? What
was your first job here? My first job

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? I was working on the subway. Uh

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then I see it. I made it. I said what
did this for? So then I I quit that

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job. I get another job. It always
starts that we're going to stop that. I

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was backing

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google outside cuts outside.

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Okay. And then the next job from
there. Then you and the second job I was

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going to do a three jobs I do again
before I believe that was your guy. So

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after that I left after I get my
degree, I go apply to a school district.

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Okay. Okay. That's good. So do you
like it there? Yeah. We do

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any of that. Okay.

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What about Uh marriage have you got
married? Yeah. Yes. 2000 2007.

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Uh 2000 and 2011. That's why I go back
over. So you're back. So tell me

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how you, how you met your wife, How
you found your way at that time? I was

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at the time I was

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young. Uh huh. Girl. And I know that
we talked to. So when you were 11

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years old, you liked her and you kept
in touch. Yes. You know the time I

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was kept here. Arizona, I was 17, I
was 17 years old. And she he he was 14

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, he was 14.

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And he got to go back to go to school
and I will say I needed in my school.

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We will see what I'm planning our
life. Mhm. And then you went back for

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her. So tell me about what happened
was they uh when you went back did you

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have to get the cattle. And yeah my
dad is called me and

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he did a big ceremony. That's that's
the best time to go to my mom and my

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dad When you went back in 2011, you
met your mom and dad for the first

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time. How was that? Was it? Sometimes
they cry. You know, it's missing a

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long time ago. You didn't remember
them. Uh, yeah, they're organized me.

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They know I'm growing up, but I
organized my mom. But my dad, I organized

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to that seem confusing late in a long
time. Did you remember any of your

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siblings, your brother or sisters?

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This solid they kid brother. I know
them long time. Somebody passed away

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and my sister one, my sister. I know
that's when I organizers and they,

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another kingdom was born. I was away
and I didn't, I didn't know that. You

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didn't know me. You know you have your
brother. It was nice to, but now

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when I go back there. So do you. Yes.
Okay. And how long were you there?

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three months, three months. Yeah. I
went back to 11,000. I go to 11. I

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went to 2012 to 13 - 16. Wow. How did
you go back all those years just to

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see the family family and I'm going to
go get my wife. I needed time. Okay.

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So I have like this have to keep right
now. Take his boy. My first voice

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for me for years. Your wife is still
there. Stand down right now. The

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paperwork takes so long listed. Is it
getting close do you think? Yeah, me

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too close. But I don't know. That is
okay. And you have, how many Children

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do you have to? And they're still
there

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to my my firstborn is it's

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four years last month. Oh wow. Okay. A

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boy and a girl boy. Both boys. Okay.
That's wonderful. That's really great.

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Um How do you communicate like Skype
or do you do?

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Uh

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Yes.

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Okay. Maybe on facebook games.

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Have you gone back to Kakuma? Oh yeah,

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that must

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be where there's still a lot of Yeah.
Yeah, that's good. So we're to the

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end of our, of our interview. So I
want you to say and People looking at

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this interview years 10 years, what do
you want to say to them? And what

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do you want to say to your if your
grandchildren or great grandchildren

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see this video, what do you want to
say to them or a message you want to

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leave on here uh for them. And uh and
do you want to say something in your

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native tongue? Okay. Yeah, I kept a
weighing. We're going.

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We were really happy. Go computer.

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Give me that

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peter. Okay. Get up. No matter I am.
Neither have you. Maybe you are a

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team that did you want a good way keep
going. Well, can indicate a no, we

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are thank people doing this interview
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