And then, where in kenya did you go? Oh God, what? Just good. How long
were you there? Good night. nine years. 9 years. Okay. And did you go to
school? There are going to school? That's why. Okay. Okay.
What was life like there? So the life, uh, they are, the life is terrible
because I love it. It's the same lies, phoenix. Arizona. Here lies. We
don't know what you see here will be how people, we have to win every time.
They don't waste time. How about food? Did you have enough food to eat?
Yeah, we have a little bit, but it's not a big food. So you can you help
us about it? So,
so when you heard about, they were taking people to America or Australia
or Canada. Did you want to go right away? How did you? Because I defend
defend when you're
so if that's the choice the idea because your name over there, we need to
go. But everybody needs to go. So we are we here That we need to program.
So yeah. Did you get picked right away or did you? How long did you wait
to get my program? Say listen, year you stay here. Yeah. Okay. So after
that that I was a fast, we was a group interview.
So that's uh, there is uh, there's something going on and just w our
leases go back again. We'll wait and wait and wait and wait for that
interview. Yeah.
And then finally your name, You saw your name on the board.
You're my friend and my dad
days. Well, what happened on my name? Uh and then tell me about your trip
here. What did you think about the airplane? Right? Tell me where you
landed. Did you come to new york? And then from there I come from new york.
So
what month was it? Was it much in March called? How was your airplane?
Right. And the airplane food? Oh it's sometimes uh is weird a little bit
because that's the first time. Oh yeah, so it's so we'll see one thing is
the one thing I take it. So that's what I know what is the function of it.
So I don't know what what I I don't want to use it. Yes, I
look too strange.
And then you went to, so you left from Nairobi to where where did you
build? I have to Nairobi to uh do from new york from new york from phoenix.
So you came straight to Phoenix? Yeah. Okay. So were you one of the first
ones like Johnny to come here a long time. Okay. One but I was 2001.
And then tell me what you thought when you got here to phoenix? Oh yeah,
last time I was coming here in phoenix and I hardly sponsored. I was
coming. I was coming on minor. It's so I was coming. So you came to live
with the family,
my sponsors an airport and we was in route for boy and they said, oh yeah
you go you start crying because I miss all of my friends because I don't
know where they go to. So I don't want to lose this mm tough. How was your
family? Were they a good family?
Did you still get to see your brother? Your people that you came with
the week we find with
what high school did you go to high school? Okay. And then you graduated
from Thunder. I go to a college, a college and I go to issue it's good
money degree over there. Okay. How close are you to getting your degree?
You did you finish your degree? And what is your degree in? And my kids?
Oh okay. That's a tough degree. Yeah. Right now I'm working on my okay,
what's your master's program? Which masters degree in? Uh Yeah I started I
need a
nursing first. Okay. Very good. Sometimes you need a goal, what do you
need to be doing? Right. And you need to get to work and have a job. Right.
Yes. But a
Uh huh. Okay. Okay. So so let's talk about that when you first came, you
were with your family? Did you? What was your first job here? My first job
? I was working on the subway. Uh
then I see it. I made it. I said what did this for? So then I I quit that
job. I get another job. It always starts that we're going to stop that. I
was backing
google outside cuts outside.
Okay. And then the next job from there. Then you and the second job I was
going to do a three jobs I do again before I believe that was your guy. So
after that I left after I get my degree, I go apply to a school district.
Okay. Okay. That's good. So do you like it there? Yeah. We do
any of that. Okay.
What about Uh marriage have you got married? Yeah. Yes. 2000 2007.
Uh 2000 and 2011. That's why I go back over. So you're back. So tell me
how you, how you met your wife, How you found your way at that time? I was
at the time I was
young. Uh huh. Girl. And I know that we talked to. So when you were 11
years old, you liked her and you kept in touch. Yes. You know the time I
was kept here. Arizona, I was 17, I was 17 years old. And she he he was 14
, he was 14.
And he got to go back to go to school and I will say I needed in my school.
We will see what I'm planning our life. Mhm. And then you went back for
her. So tell me about what happened was they uh when you went back did you
have to get the cattle. And yeah my dad is called me and
he did a big ceremony. That's that's the best time to go to my mom and my
dad When you went back in 2011, you met your mom and dad for the first
time. How was that? Was it? Sometimes they cry. You know, it's missing a
long time ago. You didn't remember them. Uh, yeah, they're organized me.
They know I'm growing up, but I organized my mom. But my dad, I organized
to that seem confusing late in a long time. Did you remember any of your
siblings, your brother or sisters?
This solid they kid brother. I know them long time. Somebody passed away
and my sister one, my sister. I know that's when I organizers and they,
another kingdom was born. I was away and I didn't, I didn't know that. You
didn't know me. You know you have your brother. It was nice to, but now
when I go back there. So do you. Yes. Okay. And how long were you there?
three months, three months. Yeah. I went back to 11,000. I go to 11. I
went to 2012 to 13 - 16. Wow. How did you go back all those years just to
see the family family and I'm going to go get my wife. I needed time. Okay.
So I have like this have to keep right now. Take his boy. My first voice
for me for years. Your wife is still there. Stand down right now. The
paperwork takes so long listed. Is it getting close do you think? Yeah, me
too close. But I don't know. That is okay. And you have, how many Children
do you have to? And they're still there
to my my firstborn is it's
four years last month. Oh wow. Okay. A
boy and a girl boy. Both boys. Okay. That's wonderful. That's really great.
Um How do you communicate like Skype or do you do?
Uh
Yes.
Okay. Maybe on facebook games.
Have you gone back to Kakuma? Oh yeah,
that must
be where there's still a lot of Yeah. Yeah, that's good. So we're to the
end of our, of our interview. So I want you to say and People looking at
this interview years 10 years, what do you want to say to them? And what
do you want to say to your if your grandchildren or great grandchildren
see this video, what do you want to say to them or a message you want to
leave on here uh for them. And uh and do you want to say something in your
native tongue? Okay. Yeah, I kept a weighing. We're going.
We were really happy. Go computer.
Give me that
peter. Okay. Get up. No matter I am. Neither have you. Maybe you are a
team that did you want a good way keep going. Well, can indicate a no, we
are thank people doing this interview fromus