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Ok. Hi, Katie, uh, Billy, uh, Sydney and Mark. We enjoyed, uh, seeing you

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and, uh, on the tape, we headed in the
library at Ar Casati with, um, a

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little grape juice and wine and
carrots. And so we're all a little sleepy

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and maybe a little, uh, slow to begin
with. Uh, I'm here as the envelope

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as you know. And, uh, so I'm gonna
take this tape back to you. Uh, I, I,

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what I want to do is sort of introduce
some folks here who, who will be

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talking with you. Well, first is, uh,
there's Randy Hunt here to, to my

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left and he is li librarian and, and,
and, and Welder and Tony Brown who

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is,

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and Josephine Crawford. Yeah. Um, I'm
working on a first, yeah, a little

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festival they're having next weekend,
uh, for, uh, 10,000 people. Uh, oh,

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my

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uh, director. You can say that

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her mother, she's her mother.

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I thank you for that. You a member
here for wood chopper or what?

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Ok. I'm Michelle and I'm a workshop,

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Jack and re

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I'm a resident too. My name's Jason
Brown and that's my dad over there.

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Tony.

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Well, uh folks, you, you, you showed
us a little bit around uh another

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place and uh and perhaps that's what,
what uh Randy could do and, and

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others just uh as we pan around the
panorama here. Can you do that, Randy

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? Just sort of give people an idea of
what's going on? Give it a try. Um

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This place is a Kani, it's been under
construction as an experimental city

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since 1970.

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Um You're probably looking at the
vaults right now. We have a north vault

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, a south vault. Uh This first vault
was the first structure completed

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here at Arcosanti. Um Panning into the
back, you'll see the lab building,

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which is under construction, a
building

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basically for uh small uh well,
perhaps woodworking, something like that,

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small crafts um located uh in the
vaults are the metal shop, uh the tool

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shop,

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the uh well, first of all, you have to
excuse me because I'm not used to

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all this. Let's see. Uh what's that
big bird over there? Uh The big bird.

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Uh We as, as Peter said, we're having
a uh a festival here next week, uh

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festival of health and healing. Um And
we're constructing a number of uh

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OK, items and, and floats really for
uh um yeah, for a, for a good time

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and, and Bob over there has been uh
coming out here, I believe he lives in

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Phoenix. He's been coming out for the
last three weekends and just

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donating his time putting that thing
together doing a magnificent job. All

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the feathers are going,

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um, you also pass to my along very
well. Ok. Ok. Uh, let's see the camera

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right now, I guess, is panning back
from the vaults and the, uh, going

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over towards the west side of the
building. And that's where the library

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is located where Randy, uh has the
library with, uh, all the books that,

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uh have been donated and sent to us.
And the building in the background is

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the uh restaurant with a pyramid uh
skylight. This again is one of Randy's

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projects uh to put the glass in the
skylight. And we're planning to

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enclose this building by the festival
because we're going to have a whole

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series of health and healing seminars
that happened inside that building

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uh during the festival because we have
a theme for the festival, which is

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one of health and healing, which uh
will happen in conjunction with the

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idea of the arts as a uh as a healing
process for the community, as well

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as uh a process for uh celebration. Um
I don't know if you can see, but

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back behind is a sort of a landscape.
Uh We have a valley that's uh on the

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south side of the, the masa here. And
we're in process of constructing a

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stage and uh amphitheater that will
house part of the festival

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performances. We actually have, I
think it's five stages for the festival

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, uh one that we're sitting on up
here, the one that you're looking at

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down in the valley there. Uh We have
uh one over to the east side in a

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large area that will have uh crafts
and food concession stands. And uh

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we'll have also a whole series of
smaller stages that step down the mazer

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on the, the other side of the valley,
which will be used for part of the

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performance during the, the evening
light show. You can just see the tip

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of the, one of the cranes that we have
here at a Kanti. That's uh the

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smaller one that we really started out
with, which is a 20 ton browning

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and uh that's located by the swimming
pool that we're in process of

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constructing, which is something we
can't wait for. Uh It's a 25 m

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swimming pool which uh sounds like a
luxury. But in the middle of the

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Arizona Desert, a swimming pool is a,
is a real necessity. So we're

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looking forward to having that finish
this year and probably swimming uh

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early next year. Uh Maybe I'll pass it
on to somebody else who can give

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you a little bit more on, on what the
camera is looking at now. Ok. Let's

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see. Are you looking, are you looking
at me? You know? Oh, yes. Ok. I live

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um above a building which is called
the Foundry and that's because we cast

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the bells down there. And the
apartment that I have is next door to

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Pyramid. And, um, it's sort of, it's
in the shell of the foundry. The

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foundry is an app which is a quarter
sphere shape and apartments are sort

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of in the shell of the foundry. It's
very hard to describe. Um, unless you

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could see it, we, there's no way we
could take the camera over there is

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there. But, ok, some of the time we do
that because they're really

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wonderful spaces and they're very,
they're very different. They don't have

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um very many 90 degree angles. They're
all different shapes and, and

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they're really, quite interesting. Um
I'd like to talk a little bit.

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Well, I've been here a year and um I
was the cook for a while and then the

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festival came up as it does every
year. We've done three. This is the

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third of, of um the festivals and it's
the beginning of a series of

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festivals that we hope to be doing
here, the sort of prototype thing. And

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uh uh when I heard about the festival,
I was very excited because my

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background is in theater. And um so I
jumped to that and so I'm working on

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that now for a while until we get it
on, which is next, next week. So

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we're all in full swing preparing for
this festival. And um the drums you

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can hear back there, some kids playing
on the thing we've been rehearsing

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and actually, we are in the process of
rehearsing and maybe later on in

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the tape, you're gonna catch some
people doing some odd things. You're

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gonna have a light show as part of the
festival. It's a two day thing and

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there's, oh, there's just a bunch of
things going on. Um, one of them is a

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light show on Saturday night and in
the light show we're trying to use as

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much. Um, let me see, how can I put it
rather than theatrical lighting,

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organic lighting. And also we're
trying to integrate what a little bit

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somehow of what we do here at our
sane. Uh, we're having what is called

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work vignettes, which is sort of half
dance and half showing like people

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carrying stuff and laboring and just
carrying on. We're just trying to

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make the light show a little bit of
what of what we do here in the way of

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building and play and whatnot and a
little bit later on also, maybe, um,

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if you go up on the roof, for
instance, I'm doing a hanging out my washing

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type dance because I do hang out my
wash on the, on the roof. So I'm gonna

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do a dance. That's saying that and you
know, there's gonna be a welder

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because that's a lot of, oh, and then
Tony Brown's gonna do this, poor,

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this concrete pour that's gonna be
all. Um Oh yeah. What? OK. I'm not sure

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myself yet, but uh, what we have is uh
is part of the light show. We're

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doing a work sequence and uh we have a
transit mixer and I'm sure you're

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familiar with what a transit mixer is.
It's a, it's a truck mounted uh

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drum that rotates to mix the concrete.
And so the plan is to, to put

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mirrors all over the uh drum of the
concrete and shine lights on it during

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the light show and do it and rotate
the drum. So it looks like a giant

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ballroom ball reflecting lights all
over the mazer. So we don't know how

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it's gonna work out. We're gonna try
it Monday night actually see how it

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works. But uh I think that the light
show is gonna be really good because

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it's gonna have a lot of energy from
the people here at Arca Santi. Um

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Both in terms of the, the, the sort of
several parts to the sequence of

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the light show. The first is lighting
the geology of the landscape and

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then the exteriors of the building.
And then as Josephine said, everybody

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waking up and going to work and doing
all the things that they do during

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the day. Um And then there's a,
there's a firework display as well, uh

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which sort of culminates the, the play
section of the, of the light show.

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And then we have uh a whole lantern
procession that goes down to the

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stages and then ends up as a, in a big
celebration down in the field at

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the bottom of the sw, um, this is
probably the biggest, uh, festival that

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we've done so far of the three. And,
uh, I think it's gonna be really

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exciting when it gets, uh, gets going.
Let's see. May, maybe I should pass

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it on to somebody else. Heidi is in
the process of dying right now because

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she has a terrible cold. But, uh, New
York.

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Oh,

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that's good. Yeah, I do. Ok. Go ahead.
If you wanna show it a ta, I gotta

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look at myself.

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Yeah, because I can't see that. Well,

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well,

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wait till he goes down there. You're
looking at like camp right now where

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most of the people who come on a
workshop here live and what it is is

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there's three main living areas.
There's Cube City, there's Plywood City

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and I guess tent city. Yeah, the
garden is located down there. We, we're

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eating out of our garden now. Um,
there's,

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there's a big building with a, it's
like an octagon shape. That's kind of

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a community space. We show movies in
there. We filled up the center with

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water and just swam in it and gotten
caught in a storm in there. And it's

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a nice space that's inside that
everybody can share our kitchens down

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there, which is also a really warm
place. Uh, and on the other side of the

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river, the Cottonwoods, that's where
some people set up different kind of

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spaces like there's tee down there and
tents. I know whatever anybody

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chooses, I suppose. But that's where
most people live because most of the

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spaces up the hill now are not living
spaces. They're working spaces.

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Well, I think something should be said
to, uh, appreciate the

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communication attempt that's being,
that's going on here because I think

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it's very valuable and I think
everybody that's here thinks it's very

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valuable to try to establish some kind
of communication because that's

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what a lot of us are in it for. That's
a lot our Kani exists in a lot of

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ways as an attempt to provide people
with information about another way

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that they might be able to live rather
than living in a city. Although I

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guess you guys are pretty lucky
because you get to live out in the country.

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 Uh

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So as far as communication goes, I
think this is really good. I think what

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you're seeing like in the vault around
you is it's kind of rare. Don't get

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the idea that there's always as much
activity going on around here because

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a lot of times it's pretty desolate.
But I think a lot of people here

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really enjoy that desolation too. Uh

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Give me a second.

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Ok. Um I'm at a workshop the second
time I was here a year ago and it's

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kind of, I think I'm becoming one of
the reoccurring people. Once you

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start here, you kind of get you, you
get used to this place and it's

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something special and it makes you
come back and talking about this place

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is a different place to live. It's an
incredibly peaceful place and that's

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why I keep coming back in terms of
finding out that I don't like to live

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in a city and maybe this kind of city
will be different and just

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evaluating it in terms of my life. And
uh there's so much going on here

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and right now you're looking at the
people who are, um, practicing for a

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dance and there's space here to do
pretty much what you want. It's one of

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the places where a lot goes and if you
want to do something you can create

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it and that's what these people are
doing now. Um, let's talk to Jack.

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Ok.

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What's next?

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I don't really have anything to add to
that at all. I haven't seen the

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tape that uh was sent here. So maybe
I'll get a chance to look at it later.

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 Uh

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It's a good place.

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Ok. Hi there. I don't really know
anything to say, but just living here is

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just great. It's just a good
experience. I've lived lots of other places

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but, um, living here is different
because it's just such a great place and

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there's no arguments most of the time.

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Some of the time we'll see. No, no
good joke.

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I just think it's a great place to be.

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Sneak,

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make you live there. In your house
because you're right out. Of course, I

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got to tell you what.

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No,

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I just, I just feel great about this
place because it's,

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it's different and it's a new idea.

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How about the other kids? Well, over
there in the vault

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three are the two are the kids. No.
What?

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Get the work. I'm gonna be here for

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much more. Maybe

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boy named Jonas

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who is just so.

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And, um, in East housing there's a
young three year old named Ken who is

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um smaller.

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OK.

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Nice drink. You do a little, I get
along with sometimes. Oh he's around

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be OK. Yeah.

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How, how much we have this, finish
this table up here?

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How much time left wondering how much
time we have left in this paper we

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could move over there.

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I think it would be helpful for, for,
for and why you're here since I got

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the microphone. What's your name?
Peter just said that we should try to

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talk about why we're here. So I'll
start since I got the microphone in my

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hand. Uh

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As soon as you say that you have to
stop and think because there's a lot

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of reasons and a lot of them aren't
very verbal, they're very intuitive.

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I'm here because I don't like to live
in the intensity of urban society,

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but I enjoy interacting with people.
I've been there and know things about

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it. I know about the city because it's
a very intense place, but it can be

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a very oppressive place too. I'm here
because I wanna be able to build our

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designing and to be able to live in
it.

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I'm also here to try to learn about
Carlo's ideas, the philosophy that

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goes behind Margo Sani, which is I've
been doing that for two years and

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I'm beginning to get a feel for it and
it's very deeply involved.

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I think it's too complex a question.
Um, it's very much involved in just

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living as far as I'm concerned. Um,
having said it's too complex a

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question, I'll now go ahead and
answer.

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Try to anyway, there are many, many
reasons why one's here and I'll just

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ramble on a little bit. Um, just
before I came here, I was living

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in the suburbs, um, because of
circumstances and I found that it was the

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most alienating thing that's ever
happened to me. Um, I think it, it

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probably started with quite a good
idea a long time ago. The idea of

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everybody with their little piece of
garden and privacy and all that stuff.

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But I, it's some, something went
wrong. Um, as far as I was concerned, it

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was very wrong for me. And so I'd
known about this case for a long time

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and it seems to me a kind of radical
move and I like radical things. So,

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um I thought I'd give it a try. I have
absolutely nothing to lose. Believe

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me. It's to me living in the suburbs.
Just, just nothing. And, um, when I

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say alienation, it just seemed like
everybody's front windows were closed

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and yes, they've got their little
piece of garden and everything. But I

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wanted to talk to people sometimes I
didn't want to get in my car and

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drive for three hours and talk to
them. So I'm, I'm, I'm looking for an

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alternative and as I say, Aa Sandy
certainly offers one. Um,

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I'm getting hypnotized by the drums.
Excuse me.

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Uh It's, as I say, I think that like
living, I've lived here for a year

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and, and the positive thing that I
found about it and of course, like

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everything, there is a great deal of
positive and negative. But the

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positive thing I find is that it's
life, I'm living it. It's not, um, it's

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not a six week course or an instant
utopia or any of those things. I'm

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just living here in this emerging
thing and the way I feel about it is

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that, that it's the future and the
future is unspeakable because it's the

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future. How can you tell what it is?
You can't analyze it or any of those

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things. So it starts getting awfully
difficult to talk about it as a sort

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of formed thing because it, it's the
future. Um I can go on rambling on

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and I do ramble on an awful lot. So
I'm gonna pass it a little bit to

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David. I don't think David spoke out
saying David, oh, you want to do

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yours in the ceramic, right?

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Um Yeah. Yeah. I like giving tours.

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Um, it's just such an immense project.
I, I'm sure I do like the people

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that we're all talking to know what we
talk, what, what it is that we're

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trying to do here because, um, do do
that. Does everybody know that what

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we're doing here? Do you think that
we're talking to, do? Most people

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understand that we're trying to build
a, a three dimensional one

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structured city? That's an urban
experiment though.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're trying
to build a new, a new and it's an

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urban experiment and it's a one
structured um city and it's a very small

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experiment um of our colleges. And

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in essence, the building is going to
be as I see it, a solar, a solar

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machine pretty much the building
itself. It's not just a bunch of

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buildings with a bunch of little solar
things stuck on them, that it's

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going to be one great big structure.
That is many things and one of the

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things is a solar collector. Um It's
also an urban center, it's going to

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be a concentrated urban center with
agriculture growing all the way around

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it. And then, and then nature just
being nature all the way around it,

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you'll be able to get out into that
very quickly. Um

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I really can't go on talking. I I am
getting terrible tour by the drums. I

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really would like to come.

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Ok. Well, I guess the question was why
are we here? And I guess the reason

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I'm here is really because I, I love
cities and it sounds kind of crazy

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sitting here out in the middle of the
boonies, uh, with nothing going on

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around us. Um, but the problems of the
city are really, uh, I think

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immense and they're getting worse. The
city is really showing signs of

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breakdown in all facets and the city
to me is the real solution to modern

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life. Um I am very much opposed to the
idea of taking a cabin and moving

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off into the countryside and living a
rural life because I think that that

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might suffice for a few people. But uh
90% of the world's population does

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live in cities. And unless we address
the problems of the cities, we're

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really not uh solving any of the real
dilemmas of modern life. So I'm uh

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I'm here because uh I wanna build a
new form of city. And I think the the

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design that pa has proposed is a, is a
very rational form that will uh not

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only house the people within a city
structure but will promote the

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interaction between people in that
structure. So besides serving as a

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shelter, it also serves as an
intensifier of, of urban life. And I think

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uh the intensity that uh exists in an
urban atmosphere is very important

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to the ongoing evolution of the human
race. And Palo is a very um intense

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evolutionary thinker and the city is a
very important part of his thought

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processes. Um So, basically, I'm here
to build a structure that will house

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a function that will maybe um enhance
the future uh living situation of

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people that live in urban
environments. Brandy.

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Well, Tony is uh very eloquent in his
uh in his description. Uh I, I could

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say I'm here for just about exactly
the same reason. Um Having lived in uh

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city situations and country
situations, uh I know that uh I, I need to

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have open spaces uh on occasion to, to
be able to wander out into and, and

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sort of be by myself. Uh But having
lived in a uh total rural area for

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about three years, I noticed that I,
I'd go crazy just several times a

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week not having enough people around
to, to, to generate,

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oh, in urban excitement. So, Arcos. So
he seems like a uh

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a very real and viable alternative uh
for me. Uh That's why I'm here.

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Um As for this video, uh I think it's
a really interesting experiment,

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what we're doing here. Uh Video has
got uh tremendous

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potentials uh apart from
commercialized television, um

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I felt a little bit funny watching you
on television. Um

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and, and slightly uncomfortable for
being behind it video, youtube here.

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And

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I think it's, it's important that uh
situations

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that are developing in, in the world
today like Arco,

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OK.

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And what you're doing at another place
in, in networking, uh A Fin Horn

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Laville or any number of other places
which I may not be aware of is uh an

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initial step in uh in a, in a
tremendously long line of, of

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uh well, a long sequence of things
which will bring about a uh community,

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uh a world community.

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Of course, it's coming to the point
where we can't do otherwise.

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So, an interesting experiment and
hello. And uh I enjoyed seeing all of

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you.

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Um

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Does anyone else have anything you
want to say?

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OK, my name is Susan and I'm a works
hopper. That means I'm here for six

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weeks. I first heard about solar last
year. And the thing that interested

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me primarily was the fact that very
radical concept is actually being

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built. Basically, what I've been doing
is construction, which has been

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everything from helping to pour cement
through the pool, to pounding the

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stakes for flagpole holders in the
field. For the festival.

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Being here has been very important to
me because it's been much more than

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a construction experience or learning
about ecologies. It's been being

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able to combine both living with the
same people that I work with and

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playing with the same people. And I
think that's a very important thing.

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Um I, I hope to come back. That's all
I have to say.

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Pen

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Oh, hello. This is, this is Tam

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Jack. Uh, why, why are you here? But
everybody knew. Well, I know, but not

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, not everybody know because I'm
crazy. Well, everybody knows that. But

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why are you?

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Well, let's see. I thought of two
reasons, uh, that people there might

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identify with.

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It's the optimum environment for
personal growth for people who like to do

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things that are fairly physical in
nature

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because it, it forces one to think
about hows and think about why's

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together at the same time. And that's
what we're about here at a Kani.

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Ultimately, I'm here because this is the uh the most profound affirmation

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of existence that I know of. And
that's not what's here now, particularly

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, although it has, it has a great deal
to offer. But what we stand for

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ultimately and eventually,

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I don't find it appearing anywhere
else in, in quite the same terms,

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challenges

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is great and therefore the the
response called for is great and that,

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that's what makes for growth and
transformation of individuals.

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And it also forces us to collect here.

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The whole synopsis of, of the uh the
positive energies are available at

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this point in history.

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I hope the uh the media

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experience, the experiment so
contributory to that. So thanks for doing it.

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You.

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Oh OK. My name names Benji Cohen. And
uh reason I came here is because I

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wanted to get the scenery. It's my
first time out in the West wanted to

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see what it really looked like. So I
came here can see all across the

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canyons and see the mountains. It's
beautiful scenery and you almost never

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have a.