WEBVTT 00:00:04.408 --> 00:00:06.408 Our signing letter number two 00:00:32.929 --> 00:00:39.135 has now slept 00:00:39.168 --> 00:00:45.737 down by a cottonwood tree. 00:00:45.770 --> 00:00:51.065 Late last night, I slept in the open 00:00:51.098 --> 00:00:59.098 just to let just to let just to let us 00:01:01.359 --> 00:01:06.855 have you seen it 00:01:06.888 --> 00:01:10.897 like to to 00:01:10.930 --> 00:01:18.930 it's just a long loathsome taxi 00:01:52.469 --> 00:01:59.397 when they I slept in the open real hat in the 00:01:59.430 --> 00:02:06.617 down cottonwood trees. Mhm. 00:02:06.650 --> 00:02:11.577 Last night a step in the open 00:02:11.610 --> 00:02:19.610 just on that. Just that just on that my soul. 00:02:22.449 --> 00:02:29.036 That 00:02:29.069 --> 00:02:31.677 yeah, 00:02:31.710 --> 00:02:38.305 it's just a long lone taxi 00:02:38.338 --> 00:02:41.606 I want. 00:02:41.639 --> 00:02:49.639 Yeah, I 00:02:58.990 --> 00:03:04.626 here we are sitting on the fashionable cafe lounge waiting to take you 00:03:04.659 --> 00:03:08.427 further into our Cassani. This is our first letter, first letter. We've 00:03:08.460 --> 00:03:12.505 had any real control over any real say, any real thinking about trying to 00:03:12.538 --> 00:03:16.696 say to you another place in Fin Horn who we are and what we're about. My 00:03:16.729 --> 00:03:20.525 name is David and this is Cheryl and this is David who's a friend of 00:03:20.558 --> 00:03:24.975 another place who has been with us helping us on this tape. The tape has 00:03:25.008 --> 00:03:30.995 produced a lot of good and traumatic experiences in all of us trying to 00:03:31.028 --> 00:03:38.745 portray the complexity that is here at Al Kani and we've done that 00:03:38.778 --> 00:03:42.755 hopefully in small snippets and you have seen some of it and hopefully 00:03:42.788 --> 00:03:47.005 we'll see more in the next couple of minutes. We will track you to a 00:03:47.038 --> 00:03:51.487 couple of environmental places where we work where ballots a re made where 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:59.520 , um, we're trying to change and hopefully further the process of human 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:03.505 evolution. 00:04:03.538 --> 00:04:07.725 Uh Let me change it over now to, to David who might lead you into more 00:04:07.758 --> 00:04:12.636 things about what we're doing and what the video letters. Ami 00:04:12.669 --> 00:04:20.507 Hello out there, go here. Um 00:04:20.540 --> 00:04:25.805 It certainly is a different place from that little farm off in New 00:04:25.838 --> 00:04:27.937 Hampshire. 00:04:27.970 --> 00:04:34.317 The tapes were well received. People are pretty excited about them. I 00:04:34.350 --> 00:04:39.325 guess what we're trying to do here is to start off with a general picture 00:04:39.358 --> 00:04:44.366 of our Kanti. What happens here from day to day? Why are some of the 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:47.906 people here? It's a very complex place to know and it's gonna take several 00:04:47.939 --> 00:04:52.086 tapes and your reading of our news of the newsletters here to start 00:04:52.119 --> 00:04:56.906 getting a feel for it. Um Maybe Cheryl wants to say something about what's 00:04:56.939 --> 00:05:01.437 happening here right now. Um In contrast to what happens here in the 00:05:01.470 --> 00:05:07.055 summer right now, it's basically the winter season and that means there 00:05:07.088 --> 00:05:12.786 are no construction workshops um for working on the buildings at the end 00:05:12.819 --> 00:05:17.276 of March will be the first construction workshop and they run all the way 00:05:17.309 --> 00:05:19.606 until Thanksgiving 00:05:19.639 --> 00:05:25.325 during the winter. It's usually just a, a core of the staff people which 00:05:25.358 --> 00:05:31.895 are here. And this winter, even a lot of staff, people are on vacation. So 00:05:31.928 --> 00:05:38.877 the people here are, are quite sparse. But uh the people that are here are 00:05:38.910 --> 00:05:45.736 also uh some of the most important ones right now, there is work uh on the 00:05:45.769 --> 00:05:53.769 greenhouse which is down in camp. And um it's it's the first um attempt at 00:05:54.278 --> 00:05:58.836 a greenhouse here and it's an experimental ground for the larger 00:05:58.869 --> 00:06:05.697 greenhouse which will be a skirt around the city. Uh There's also been two 00:06:05.730 --> 00:06:13.645 wood workshops, which one which um concentrated on making a gallery in the 00:06:13.678 --> 00:06:18.455 second floor of this crafts building. And this gallery will, will be the 00:06:18.488 --> 00:06:24.026 new visitor center and it will have posters of Soleri's work and cell 00:06:24.059 --> 00:06:30.555 bells and it'll just be a very nice space. Uh The second wood workshop is 00:06:30.588 --> 00:06:38.588 doing more furniture making and finer um detailed woodwork 00:06:38.750 --> 00:06:42.836 a bit. Um Our, our cameraman tells us we have two minutes left. So I think 00:06:42.869 --> 00:06:47.866 we should kind of, we'll get that into that later. Um Why don't we go 00:06:47.899 --> 00:06:51.536 quickly over what else is here and what we're going to be doing in this 00:06:51.569 --> 00:06:53.546 tape. 00:06:53.579 --> 00:06:58.226 Do you want to do that? Um 00:06:58.259 --> 00:07:02.507 Well, in this tape, we'll be uh going over to the ceramics apps and 00:07:02.540 --> 00:07:07.387 interviewing a worker there and we'll be going over to the foundry and 00:07:07.420 --> 00:07:11.486 seeing some of the exciting processes that go on there and talking to the 00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:18.495 , the foreman there and uh we'll also be seeing some of close up details 00:07:18.528 --> 00:07:21.486 of the buildings around here 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:27.627 we, is there anything else we need to say? OK. 00:07:27.660 --> 00:07:29.765 OK. 00:07:29.798 --> 00:07:34.515 The uh it's one thing that, that I've always amused me about television 00:07:34.548 --> 00:07:39.145 and about video and I think that uh as we're reaching this new planetary 00:07:39.178 --> 00:07:43.895 culture that maybe telepathy is better than television. But uh since we're 00:07:43.928 --> 00:07:48.606 here now this is what we're gonna use and I think we'll all see how it's 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:53.406 gonna work. That's about all I really wanted to add and take the tape for 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:57.356 what it is. We obviously there's more that we could show you, but an 00:07:57.389 --> 00:08:01.236 overload is not our intention. Our intention is to give you bits of our 00:08:01.269 --> 00:08:07.236 Cassani from time to time. 00:08:07.269 --> 00:08:09.705 Let's think for a second. If there's anything else we wanna say right now 00:08:09.738 --> 00:08:13.507 , 00:08:13.540 --> 00:08:17.197 shall we go on? Think that's it? Is there anything else anybody else wants 00:08:17.230 --> 00:08:24.356 to say? Well, we'll talk to you right before the end of the tape. OK. 00:08:24.389 --> 00:08:28.546 It is anti utopian by, 00:08:28.579 --> 00:08:32.356 by design and intent. 00:08:32.389 --> 00:08:40.057 Now you're on now we go, 00:08:40.090 --> 00:08:48.090 it's not utopian or a communal is anti utopian by design and intent. 00:08:52.700 --> 00:08:58.537 The buildings that you'll be seeing here at Arca Sane are a very small 00:08:58.570 --> 00:09:05.525 portion of the eventual um development. These a re still single buildings 00:09:05.558 --> 00:09:12.206 , the idea now is to build one totally integrated structure. The this has 00:09:12.239 --> 00:09:16.927 come about through a number of design changes. So these buildings are 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:20.206 actually somewhat mistakes. 00:09:20.239 --> 00:09:25.946 The building that you're seeing now is the ceramics apps by using this 00:09:25.979 --> 00:09:29.476 quarter sphere structure. 00:09:29.509 --> 00:09:34.807 The building itself acts as a passive solar collector in that in the 00:09:34.840 --> 00:09:40.135 summer when the sun is high in the sky, the internal space shades itself 00:09:40.168 --> 00:09:44.047 in the winter as you can see. Now, 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:50.297 the building is sun filled because the sun is lower in the sky. 00:09:50.330 --> 00:09:56.086 The ceramics was one of the the first buildings to come about at Aas Santi. 00:09:56.119 --> 00:09:59.846 Although all the buildings have been built somewhat simultaneously, it 00:09:59.879 --> 00:10:03.856 was one of the first in the, the initial sequences. The construction 00:10:03.889 --> 00:10:07.726 started about 1970. 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:11.717 The operation of the ceramics work has been going on for about two years 00:10:11.750 --> 00:10:16.846 now. Although it's only coming into ah full production or semi full 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:23.599 production, it's still developing. It's only coming in to that stage. No. 00:10:25.210 --> 00:10:27.210 Hello, here we are in the ceramic apps uh with Susan who is a ceramicist. 00:10:29.580 --> 00:10:33.375 I'm gonna ask her a couple of questions about what she does and why she's 00:10:33.408 --> 00:10:36.946 here. So let me start off with the first one. What is exactly that you do 00:10:36.979 --> 00:10:39.726 ? 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:43.956 I do the ceramic windmills here, which I've done for about a year and a 00:10:43.989 --> 00:10:48.275 half, which is primarily concerned with uh mold pouring. We have three 00:10:48.308 --> 00:10:52.816 different kinds of molds that we use. Plaster earth and silt. I don't know 00:10:52.849 --> 00:10:55.846 if there probably isn't time to go into the whole explanation of the 00:10:55.879 --> 00:11:00.356 process, but it's a very simple, very primitive, very direct process. Each 00:11:00.389 --> 00:11:05.875 bell is hand carved after it's poured. Um, we fire them in propane kilns 00:11:05.908 --> 00:11:11.976 here and we assemble them and they're set off to shops and galleries. How 00:11:12.009 --> 00:11:14.967 , how does the environment affect your work? Do you find that it does in 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:19.525 any way? Oh, I'm sure it does. It's hard. I think it would be hard to say 00:11:19.558 --> 00:11:24.236 exactly how, but I think there are very few studios that are set up quite 00:11:24.269 --> 00:11:29.476 like this where you're in direct touch with uh not only shelter but also 00:11:29.509 --> 00:11:35.586 just the expanse of the natural surroundings of nature. Even when the 00:11:35.619 --> 00:11:41.025 weather is uh rather bleak and difficult to work with. It's still, you 00:11:41.058 --> 00:11:47.736 can't avoid working, you can't avoid um being affected by rain, wind, sun 00:11:47.769 --> 00:11:52.226 , et cetera. I can't chart exactly how it comes out in one's work, but 00:11:52.259 --> 00:11:56.576 it's a glorious feeling. Nevertheless. How do you, how do you see crafts 00:11:56.609 --> 00:12:01.005 as being related in uh the whole scheme of things here in Rocky? I mean, 00:12:01.038 --> 00:12:08.436 how do you find yourself as a craftsperson involved in uh Ar Cassani? 00:12:08.469 --> 00:12:10.736 Um 00:12:10.769 --> 00:12:14.616 to be truthful, kind of on the periphery of what is actually happening 00:12:14.649 --> 00:12:18.755 here right now? I think eventually the crafts will come to play a larger 00:12:18.788 --> 00:12:25.157 part than they do right now. But this is a process which is integrally 00:12:25.190 --> 00:12:32.096 bound up in, in principle on the whole construction process. 00:12:32.129 --> 00:12:37.427 But I think it's only in principle, right now? 00:12:37.460 --> 00:12:42.765 Great. OK, thank you, Susan. If she has anything to say 00:12:42.798 --> 00:12:46.616 that's a possibility. I just got a little off, off Ca Mera uh idea. It was 00:12:46.649 --> 00:12:51.005 the idea that, uh, perhaps we should ask Susan what she would like to tell 00:12:51.038 --> 00:12:54.217 you folks 00:12:54.250 --> 00:13:01.287 in what respect do you mean? 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:05.807 No, I, I think that, uh, like most people here, I'm sure that we should 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:12.547 have greater communication with all three, between all three communities. 00:13:12.580 --> 00:13:17.106 I'd like to see this happen. I'd like to know more myself. 00:13:17.139 --> 00:13:25.139 OK. 00:13:29.710 --> 00:13:36.326 We're standing right on top of the ceramics apps, looking at the bells 00:13:36.359 --> 00:13:44.359 they're made here, 00:13:44.359 --> 00:13:48.255 walking up the stairs to the very top of the ceramics apps and looking 00:13:48.288 --> 00:13:53.265 down at the Foundry app 00:13:53.298 --> 00:13:58.537 on top of the Foundry apps in each of those little sections that you see. 00:13:58.570 --> 00:14:03.366 Um There are apartments for individuals and inside the apps is where the 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:07.596 foundry is located 00:14:07.629 --> 00:14:14.557 and we're looking over into the Mesa and Valley 00:14:14.590 --> 00:14:20.275 and over to the crafts building. 00:14:20.308 --> 00:14:28.308 Me and my walk right 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:38.840 and down into the ceramics. 00:14:45.639 --> 00:14:52.476 We're in the craft three building. It's a combination restaurant, cafe, 00:14:52.509 --> 00:14:57.316 acting now as a visitor center and there's also a residency space and some 00:14:57.349 --> 00:15:03.076 display space at the top from where we're filming. Now, 00:15:03.109 --> 00:15:11.066 this is a, a fairly large scale model of Ar Kanti. Uh the most recent 00:15:11.099 --> 00:15:14.696 design, it's gone through a number of design changes, but there have been 00:15:14.729 --> 00:15:21.895 two major changes or one distinctly major change. The latest has gone to 00:15:21.928 --> 00:15:29.928 what we now call the Two Sons archology. And it is a theological focus and 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:36.875 it's theological. If you want to take ecology and push it to the point 00:15:36.908 --> 00:15:44.908 where it borders on theology, 00:15:47.668 --> 00:15:53.726 what we're trying to define as an, an urban environment. And if we take a 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:59.196 biological view of evolution or biological evolution in general, compared 00:15:59.229 --> 00:16:07.229 to cultural evolution, then we might trace the idea of urban back to the 00:16:07.908 --> 00:16:15.908 the first forms of um life or pre life that started acting in ways that 00:16:16.960 --> 00:16:24.960 weren't governed solely by determinism or fate. This is the model of a 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:30.486 Cassani. Mm 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:36.596 It is uh pretty much structured physically on a series of effects. What Mr 00:16:36.629 --> 00:16:43.135 Sary terms in total, the urban effect 00:16:43.168 --> 00:16:51.168 and the urban effect generally says that ah 00:16:55.440 --> 00:17:03.440 what does the urban effect say? Well, there are the series of effects. Um 00:17:03.558 --> 00:17:07.967 The building is structured in the same way as the ceramics apps that 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:11.756 you've already seen is structured by using what Mr Slade calls the apps 00:17:11.789 --> 00:17:16.996 effect. So we have a, instead of using an apps which although it catches 00:17:17.029 --> 00:17:21.696 the winter sun and shade the summer sun, we are now using a somewhat of a 00:17:21.729 --> 00:17:26.607 a cone which is truncated half cone, it's truncated. Uh The trouble with 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:31.486 the apps was that it was always a shaded spot on the top. So now we sort 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:35.045 of cut off the top and get rid of that shade and we have two blades 00:17:35.078 --> 00:17:40.246 sandwiched together that are angled. It, it's such an angle that in the uh 00:17:40.279 --> 00:17:44.085 summer when the sun is high in the sky, the entire town will shade itself. 00:17:44.118 --> 00:17:48.926 Um in the winter when the sun is low in the sky, the entire town will be 00:17:48.959 --> 00:17:53.055 sun filled. So the sun will penetrate on these blades. Um Up the blades 00:17:53.088 --> 00:17:57.785 are residency. Um The point about the, the architecture itself, the most 00:17:57.818 --> 00:18:01.325 important point is integration. So if we have a uh if we have a container 00:18:01.358 --> 00:18:05.877 , then we automatic uh uh very distinct container, we already 00:18:05.910 --> 00:18:12.137 automatically have a um an integrated environment. But the point about 00:18:12.170 --> 00:18:16.127 integration is that we're not only integrating people and uh types of 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:22.217 people in different professions, but we're, we're integrating uh what we 00:18:22.250 --> 00:18:27.976 do every day of working and playing leisure. 00:18:28.009 --> 00:18:31.545 A few things. Um I'd just like to point out one of two things is an 00:18:31.578 --> 00:18:36.656 outsider. Very excited about this. You can see here that there's the edge 00:18:36.689 --> 00:18:39.825 of the mesa which David is shooting right now in their apartments all the 00:18:39.858 --> 00:18:43.785 way down the back where individuals will live um have their own space and 00:18:43.818 --> 00:18:50.137 do what they will with their space around the top of there are greenhouses 00:18:50.170 --> 00:18:55.516 um and, and, and, and garden space and the same is so for the bottom of 00:18:55.549 --> 00:19:01.315 the front of the archaeology, um Now, the greenhouse space provides heat 00:19:01.348 --> 00:19:07.285 for the Archology uh model which is uh the greenhouse is used as a 00:19:07.318 --> 00:19:11.107 combination of two effects, which is the horticulture effect, which is 00:19:11.140 --> 00:19:15.967 very old and the chimney effect, which means any heat that is any air that 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:18.986 is heated will automatically tend to rise. So these are two more of those 00:19:19.019 --> 00:19:27.019 effects. 00:19:28.630 --> 00:19:33.387 Now, do not touch that dial, do not change stations. We have a temporary 00:19:33.420 --> 00:19:37.736 problem in the technical uh abilities of the people doing this video. If 00:19:37.769 --> 00:19:41.397 you will be patient and hold on please, you will uh go get your sandwich 00:19:41.430 --> 00:19:46.065 or maybe have a some herbal tea and come back. Hang on one moment standing 00:19:46.098 --> 00:19:50.617 by. 00:19:50.650 --> 00:19:58.650 Oh OK. Well, we'll just walk. 00:20:00.009 --> 00:20:05.166 Have you stopped it? 00:20:05.199 --> 00:20:08.565 Come here? Why don't you say how complex this is and how it's going to 00:20:08.598 --> 00:20:12.946 take another few takes to really get into the whole structure? Because you 00:20:12.979 --> 00:20:18.607 , you um because you know, I I because it's just so many different. 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:26.176 Yes, of course. Tell me when I OK. Of course, any, any environment you 00:20:26.209 --> 00:20:33.035 build is gonna be very in, in intense or um intricate. So we can't explain 00:20:33.068 --> 00:20:38.575 it all. So we might as well come back some other time and do that and, and 00:20:38.608 --> 00:20:41.815 it would be good if you can pass on your questions about this environment 00:20:41.848 --> 00:20:45.315 because it's a very complex one to understand the casual observer may be 00:20:45.348 --> 00:20:50.377 turned off because it's so large. Did you mention the size? 00:20:50.410 --> 00:20:56.436 It's very small compared to uh uh another comparable town, but it's 25 00:20:56.469 --> 00:20:59.706 stories high and covers about 10 acres of the building itself and holds 00:20:59.739 --> 00:21:04.696 5000 people. About 5000. We'll get into the whole dynamic of, of urban 00:21:04.729 --> 00:21:09.377 space and concentration and miniaturization at another time. Right. That's 00:21:09.410 --> 00:21:15.325 good. Kind of we, we, we're sitting in front of west housing one of the uh 00:21:15.358 --> 00:21:20.285 side parts of the vault structure. This is a living and library space. 00:21:20.318 --> 00:21:23.436 This is also the place where we serve lunch, lunch is usually made down in 00:21:23.469 --> 00:21:27.486 camp and brought up here. We have before us, the majority of people you 00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:31.377 see one, I'm sure from another place we'll know uh Josephine's on your 00:21:31.410 --> 00:21:35.555 left. Chris Blackwell is next. Then we have Mark who's visiting from 00:21:35.588 --> 00:21:38.946 another place Langdon and of course David who's also visiting from another 00:21:38.979 --> 00:21:46.979 place. These um make up some of the community of Al Kani. 00:21:51.910 --> 00:21:55.335 OK. That this guy. 00:21:55.368 --> 00:22:00.897 Hello, Matt. Hello, Dave. I have a small question for you. What is the 00:22:00.930 --> 00:22:08.930 thing that most uh excites you about living in Azan, 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:20.000 the 00:22:24.309 --> 00:22:29.107 good lunch. OK. Talking to Langdon who is a friend of mine as well as a 00:22:29.140 --> 00:22:32.137 member of the community. And I was gonna ask him a very similar question. 00:22:32.170 --> 00:22:36.127 I just asked my other friend Matthew, which is, what do you find the most 00:22:36.160 --> 00:22:39.706 exciting thing about living here in Rakas? Thought about it. I decided I 00:22:39.739 --> 00:22:44.075 couldn't answer it. We then continued our conversation. Uh Why couldn't 00:22:44.108 --> 00:22:46.285 you answer that mainly because there's so many different aspects of our 00:22:46.318 --> 00:22:49.226 designing. 00:22:49.259 --> 00:22:57.259 There's no fun in, uh, I take one, 00:22:57.799 --> 00:23:02.097 I thought about it. I don't think, I think about it. How would you want to 00:23:02.130 --> 00:23:06.565 think about being here then? I don't, I mean, being here has been here and 00:23:06.598 --> 00:23:11.776 thinking about it. I don't know. It's like 00:23:11.809 --> 00:23:15.617 the difference between knowing, knowing and being. 00:23:15.650 --> 00:23:17.795 It's like, it's hard to have a discussion, a real discussion in front of 00:23:17.828 --> 00:23:21.597 the camera. Hello, everybody. We're talking with one of the younger 00:23:21.630 --> 00:23:27.736 residents of Ar Kante. And your name is? What's your name? Karen? Ken. Ken. 00:23:27.769 --> 00:23:33.967 Say hi to the camera. Hi, camera. Tell me where's your mother today? She 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:40.799 , she, she, I goes up and what she doing? She's pooping out of the pants. 00:23:42.729 --> 00:23:44.729 What else is she doing? She's pooped on her hair. Oh, come on. What's she 00:23:48.199 --> 00:23:53.166 gonna have? She's gonna poop on her. What is she gonna have? She's gonna 00:23:53.199 --> 00:24:00.387 poop on her head. Oh, then I'm gonna have to tell everybody, 00:24:00.420 --> 00:24:04.617 you know what Klins mother's gonna have gonna have a baby, right? No, 00:24:04.650 --> 00:24:11.736 they're gonna have a new brand new baby. Window. A baby. Yeah. What else 00:24:11.769 --> 00:24:17.926 have you got to say? I got to say poopy POY poop. 00:24:17.959 --> 00:24:22.956 Yeah. OK. Here we are from uh Ar Casan saying hello to the Children of 00:24:22.989 --> 00:24:30.107 another place and Fin Horn, right? Yeah. Fin Horn. Fin Horn. Fin Horn baby. 00:24:30.140 --> 00:24:34.926 OK. 00:24:34.959 --> 00:24:40.367 It does not endorse the notion that all men are created equal as if cloned 00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:45.597 from some God given prototype. It endorses the notion that the individual 00:24:45.630 --> 00:24:51.029 is born with his own original specific and irre repeatable characteristics. 00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:54.279 The foundry process has been going on for about three years now. Here at 00:24:57.598 --> 00:25:03.006 Ahaan, we have a foundry at Kani, these metal wind bells that you see 00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:09.426 hanging around and being made here, a re the main or very substantial 00:25:09.459 --> 00:25:17.459 portion of the income for the uh building materials we use at Ahaan. 00:25:21.390 --> 00:25:25.315 The foundry was constructed simultaneously with the ceramic apps. It was 00:25:25.348 --> 00:25:29.835 another one of those buildings that was constructed in the initial 00:25:29.868 --> 00:25:35.107 sequence of buildings. You might say 00:25:35.140 --> 00:25:39.967 it was ah one thing very important about the architecture beside 00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:42.137 integration 00:25:42.170 --> 00:25:50.170 is that ah the aesthetic quality of the architecture is very important. 00:25:52.219 --> 00:26:00.219 So 00:26:02.779 --> 00:26:06.706 what it was, 00:26:06.739 --> 00:26:09.387 what you, what you're watching now is just the pouring of the metal, the 00:26:09.420 --> 00:26:13.647 hot bronze at 2000 some odd degrees into the sand mold in which the bells 00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:21.680 are have been formed. 00:26:38.979 --> 00:26:46.979 Did you like not to? 00:26:49.989 --> 00:26:55.226 Here we are the foundry, the uh more transformative quality of our sane. 00:26:55.259 --> 00:26:59.315 Here. We have uh the one of the foundry folks, particularly in the guise 00:26:59.348 --> 00:27:05.717 of Nick. Hello, Nick and Nick is one of our more ah prominent foundry 00:27:05.750 --> 00:27:09.266 members here. I'd like to ask you a couple of questions about ah what you 00:27:09.299 --> 00:27:12.967 do here as well as how you live in a Kani first. Let's start off with, um 00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:20.467 what do you actually do here? Uh I make bells and why do you make bells? 00:27:20.500 --> 00:27:25.065 That's a, that's a complicated question, David, you know, uh uh to build 00:27:25.098 --> 00:27:29.026 the city, I suppose. Uh The idea is that the bells finance the uh 00:27:29.059 --> 00:27:35.097 construction. And so that this operation was set up early in, in, so 00:27:35.130 --> 00:27:38.746 Larry's operation in order to finance his drawing, so he wouldn't have to 00:27:38.779 --> 00:27:45.107 work uh for, you know, normal architectural offices or anything. And so 00:27:45.140 --> 00:27:50.006 that, um, it's gradually grown into a fairly large operation and uh 00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:53.166 there's a foundry here and another founder of Kanti right now. How do you 00:27:53.199 --> 00:27:57.766 like working in an app that is in an open space in which you both have the 00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:03.166 joy of looking out? But the drudgery of, of uh the climat conditions, it, 00:28:03.199 --> 00:28:06.506 it makes a difference between working in what would normally be a factory 00:28:06.539 --> 00:28:10.686 operation and working outdoors in a fairly healthy physical kind of 00:28:10.719 --> 00:28:15.156 situation. Do you find it affects your work? And in terms of height? Yeah 00:28:15.189 --> 00:28:17.766 , I couldn't work. If there's another side of this building, I couldn't 00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:22.887 work here, it would be, there would be nothing to, there would be no air 00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:27.016 to it, no breathing to it. Right. Exactly. And the final thing is how do 00:28:27.049 --> 00:28:34.627 you see if you see the role as bells being um, a financial import? How do 00:28:34.660 --> 00:28:39.426 you see it in terms of the city that is, do you see Bells as part and 00:28:39.459 --> 00:28:46.347 parcel of the experience here or is it simply a tangential thing used to 00:28:46.380 --> 00:28:52.756 um, further the construction process? I'm not sure I understand you, but I 00:28:52.789 --> 00:28:57.266 it's, it's involved with things. Bells are nice things to have around. You 00:28:57.299 --> 00:29:00.506 know, it's hopefully this will expand into something a little bit more 00:29:00.539 --> 00:29:08.539 than just so it might actually like an art in a way. 00:29:10.348 --> 00:29:17.976 That's the heart of the, this is David signing up. 00:29:18.009 --> 00:29:21.476 What? 00:29:21.509 --> 00:29:29.509 Yeah, 00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:41.880 for you guys 00:29:50.239 --> 00:29:57.506 not win. 00:29:57.539 --> 00:30:05.539 New York City. 00:30:06.118 --> 00:30:10.127 We get many tours as part of the problem of being involved in creating a 00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:13.607 city for the future is the people in the present a re as interested as 00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:18.867 those of us who a re concerned about living in the near future. 00:30:18.900 --> 00:30:23.016 And we're on top of the vault space from the highest spaces now to give 00:30:23.049 --> 00:30:29.785 you a vantage point of both Rakosi and its environs. It's a rather 00:30:29.818 --> 00:30:33.815 gorgeous day when the first we've had in a long time. More like the 00:30:33.848 --> 00:30:37.476 weather we're used to getting. We had a bit of our wintry season as we all 00:30:37.509 --> 00:30:44.877 do. It's, it's rain and you can see some of the green that still abides 00:30:44.910 --> 00:30:50.426 desperately trying to hold on to the life that it is so hard to get. 00:30:50.459 --> 00:30:54.305 And, uh, you're now looking for another, as another view from the f of the 00:30:54.338 --> 00:30:59.196 Foundry apps which you can see and we're coming across the mesa, see the 00:30:59.229 --> 00:31:04.756 rocks part of our everyday experience and the power lines. One of the 00:31:04.789 --> 00:31:08.825 things we most obviously don't enjoy but was part of us down far. There is 00:31:08.858 --> 00:31:13.656 camp where the majority of the staff live since there are not enough 00:31:13.689 --> 00:31:16.776 spaces up on the site. Every everybody wants to live on the site. But 00:31:16.809 --> 00:31:20.335 that's in due time. 00:31:20.368 --> 00:31:24.696 There's still some snow on the peaks of the mountains as you can see. And 00:31:24.729 --> 00:31:29.436 here we are, I guess we tried to say a lot, probably more than we could 00:31:29.469 --> 00:31:33.545 within the time we had to do. But I think that we did it as best we could 00:31:33.578 --> 00:31:40.276 at the moment. It's just the beginning. It's our first. Hello. 00:31:40.309 --> 00:31:47.068 We want to thank Bill Beamer for singing the first portion um, of our tape. 00:31:47.189 --> 00:31:49.189 He's uh one of our entertainments at a Kani. 00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:05.549 Now we see our reluctant editorial assistant.