W ed n esd ay October 3,1984 s ta te fc y g . V v ArizonaState University Tvmpe. Arizona ... Copyright, State Press. 1964 State rep has advice for Board of Regents By W.TIM AHL Staff Writer If the Arizona Board of Regents acts quickly in ap­ proving tuition rates for the 1965-66 school year, the Legislature will not be forced to initiate any tuition lulls of their own, according to Jim Cooper (R-Mesa), chairman of the House Education Committee. But a problem could develop. Cooper said, if the regents don’t adopt a tuition rate similar to the one adopted Saturday by their finance committee. “ If they dilly-dally around again this year, the Legislature might try to initiate a bill again,” Cooper said. “Last year, their committee recommended a rate and the full board didn’t accept it. That is when the legislature decided to take action,” he said. At the finance committee meeting, the regents ap­ proved a $40 increase in the resident tuition rate for the three state universities, a $44 increase in the non­ resident rate at NAU and a $144 increase in non­ resident tuition a t ASU and U of A. The fees are sub­ ject to approval at the regents’ monthly meeting at NAU October 12. When the regents failed to set tuition by Match for the 1984-85 school year, the Legislature considered a bill that would change the power structure and allow them to set tuition rates. According to Cooper, the bill died when the regents agreed to set tins year’s tuition rates at $950. Regents’ Executive Director Robert Huff agreed that quick action by the board tins year will probably fend off any pressure by the Legislature. “Let’s face it, the Legislature has the ability to apply pressure to the regents or any other group for that mat­ ter, but I don’t think we will see any (pressure) on the regents tins year,” Huff said. “We have had reasonable increases and maintained a catch-up pattern over the last few years, and we are still raising the rate,” he said. The regents have been able to work quickly to ap­ prove tuition this year. Huff said, because there were not large differences in the rates requested by univer­ sity administrators. According to Huff, the tuition presentation by the Arizona Student's Association Saturday also played an active role in helping the regents determine tuition rates. Even though the student proposal made a significant impact on the regents. Huff said it probably wasn’t the only reason the board selected the $990 in-state tuition rate, the $3,844 out-of-state rate for ASU and U of A, and the $3,244 out-of-state rate for NAU. “The students have definitely come around by ask­ ing for a tuition increase,” Huff said. "Expecting no tuition increase is unreasonable. “Lets face it, when a decision is bring made on tui­ tion by the regrots, a lot of different groups are them in different directions. But 1 don’t think any specific group will dominate their decision," Huff said. Pipedreams ------- ------- Rattled marina Colonel Ed Boyd tetaxaswlth Ms pipa Tuesday in the Farmer Education BulM ng. Boyd holds a master's dogma In business administration, and said he has returned to school because he wants to teach secondary education. Computers: ASU delay causes price hike By MARY LOU FULTON In late October 1963, Maman approached ASU with the first Investigative Reporter deal. Apple’s presentation was beard by a group of faculty, Because ASU rejected an offer from Apple Computer Co. in and the Microcomputer Product Selection Committee voted December 1963, the University now has to pay $1,400 for a to accept Apple’s offer by a 5-1 vote. Macintosh computer instead of the $1,000 price originally The proposal then moved to the Information and Commer­ proposed. cial Services Advisory Committee (ICSAC), which decided ASU was one of 26 colleges and universities asked to join a there were enough discrepancies within the contract that a consortium organized by Apple in fall 1983. Membership in 30-day extension was required. Apple rejected this request, the consortium would have allowed ASU to purchase a but did extend the deadline from DÜec. 1 to Dec. 8. Macintosh system, including the computer, disc drive, The main problem was a clause stating that ASU’s role keyboard, 32-bit memory, and monitor for $1,000. would be to resell the computers to students, faculty and Students, faculty and staff would have been able to buy the staff, an illegal process because of an Arizona law pro­ Macintosh system for approximately $1,000 phis a $150 pro­ hibiting competition between state institutions and the cessing charge. The same Macintosh system retails for private sector. $2,495. ASU did not complete the legal work in time and was no Additionally, academic representatives from each of the longer eligible for the consortium consortium colleges and universities were to meet “It was turned over to people within the administration to periodically to exchange ideas and information. work out the contract,” Moman said. “The faculty and The consortium included such universities as Harvard, academic people wanted to move on this as quickly as possi­ Yale, Cornell, Dartmouth, Stanford, Princeton and Nor­ ble. We just got bagged down in some legal issues.” thwestern. Only ASU and the University of California at San Connie McNeal, ASU executive director of computing ser­ Luis-Obispo rejected Apple’s offer. vices, said ASU did all it could to push the deal through. When the students at San Luis-Obispo learned the ad­ “I worked very hard to get more time, to try and negotiate ministration tinned down the offer, they picketed and held a with him (Moman) in the passible time fram e," she said. large protest march, according to Tim Moman, district “Theu-offer to us came too late. ” manager for direct sales with Apple Corporation Court’s ruling favors University in towing suit By PATRICK 1. KUCERA Staff Writer A Tempe small claims court Monday rul­ ed against an ASU student who sued the Uni versify for towing his car from Tempe Center. In Ins judgment, small claims hearing of­ ficer Gary Morris said the evidence did not substantiate Steven Miner's claim that ASU had violated his constitutional rights in tow­ ing his 1979 Pontiac Trans Am. The judg­ ment disagreed with Miner’s claim that the University violated state and Tempe city sign codes Miner, a finance and real estate major, riahnad the University violated federal. state and local laws in towing his car “Tliere was no due process of law, ” Miner said in court on Friday. “ (The towing) violated my constitutional rights ” Miner also contended signs posted at Tempe Center were not the correct dimen­ sions and color. The judgment stipulated Miner will not receive compensation for the changes paid to retrieve his car from Dana Bros. Towing. The judgment further said Miner will not be awarded money to pay for damage he claimed occurred when Dana Bros, towed the ca r from Tempe Center. Mary Stevens, representative counsel for ASU, argued that the damage done to the car was m question because Miner uuied to notify the University about the damage. Stevens contended Miner's Trans Am could have been damaged while he was out of town. Morris had said Friday he felt Miner did not have sufficient evidence to prove the car was damaged by Dana B r« . “ I am reasonably certain care was taken with regard to the car,” he said Stevens said she thinks the court weighed the evidence accurately and fairly “I was pleased with the court's derision,” she said “I think it was the right one.” Stevens said Miner’s suit against the University was the first concerning Tempe Center since ASU acquired the property last November. “ I've hem here since April and it's the first time (ASU has been sued for a Tempe Center towing),” she said. Stevens said the court gave ample time to both sides to present evidence The court case lasted about two horns. Morris also ruled Miner will not be responsible for court costs “Each party will bear its own cost,” she said. Although Miner's claim was settled in court, this case cannot be used as a prece­ dent, Stevens said, adding that each small claims suit must be judged on its own merit. Miner was unavailable for m m m s on the court’s ruling ftrtç to m 1964 ■ nation/w orld ÿ& Reagan stands by Donovan, charges 'lynch atmosphere' Nude sculpture to remsin in lobby of Cepitol BROWNSVILLE, Texas (AP) — President Reagan said Tuesday he considers Labor Secretary Raymond J. Donovan “innocent until proven guilty” and charged that a “lynch at­ mosphere” has dogged officials of his administration throughout his term. Reagan said Donovan voluntarily stepped aside when he asked for a leave of absence and “I accept that.” He said he probably will talk to the secretary at some point but that he does not intend to comment again on the subject while it is in the courts. At a pianeside news conference as he landed in Brownsville on a campaign swing through Texas, Reagan was asked how it looked to have a Cabinet officer under indictment, which is apparently unprecedented. “ I don't think there are many precedents for all the attacks and assaults that have been made on so many people of our administration with allegations and charges that were without any foundation in fact and were later revealed as having no foundation in fact and the people were cleared — kind of a lynch atmosphere in that,” Reagan said. The Donovan case “is now a matter of law and I’m not go­ ing to comment further on this except to say that to my knowledge he is innocent until proven guilty,” he said. Reagan refused to comment when asked if he thought the indictment was politically motivated. Asked about Democratic charges of a “sleaze factor" in the campaign, Reagan said, “If there is one, it’s on the other side, with their baseless charges and accusations that have all been proven false.” PHOENIX (AP) — After a day in which she was naked, draped in a T-shirt and almost thrown out, the life-size “Snake Lady” statue will remain on display at the state Capitol. “By God, that’s weird. But if this is art, so be it," said J. Michael Low, director of the Department of Administration, who made the final decision Monday. The statue of a nude woman’s body with a reptile’s head is part of a Phoenix Artist Coalition exhibition that began a twoweek run this week in the Capitol lobby. The statue is reclin­ ing on a box of sand, supporting itself with the arms and tor­ so. Barbara Pipkin, who coordinates the frequent displays in the Capitol lobby, ordered the breasts covered, saying she was worried about offending visitors, including frequent groups of school children. When told of the order, sculptor Matt Smith came to the Capitol, hoping to convince officials to exhibit it as designed. He found his work wearing a T-shirt. “ I didn’t like that, so I covered it with gauze,” said Smith. Coalition artists then organized a demonstration to remove the statue. That’s when Low entered the picture. He said the gauze could be removed and the statue could stay. Smith, 27, has a bachelor’s degree in sculpture from Ohio State University and a master’s degree from Arizona State University. - - rrrrrr -p r rrrTirnrirrrr>TinriWrimrr r m ■- it | TERMINAL RENTALS Decwriters and CRTs Upper Case CRTs $40 U pper/Low er Case $45 Call 966-3105 C o m p u te r T e rm in a l S e rv ic e Delivery Available P R E -L A W CONFERENCE WEDNESDAY • OCTOBER 3,1984 ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY C O LLEG E OF LAW WILLARD H. PEDRICK GREAT HALL GRAND OPENING FORD & HAIG J TOBACCONIST Your store for cigars, pipes, tobacco, lighters, and im ported cigarettes ( cloves, too ). 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Even with the deadline extension, there wasn't enough time. “He (Moman) aproached individuals within the University, but not those in a posi­ tion to make a decision,’’ she said. “He simply didn’t understand where he needed to make his entry into the University.’’ Not everyone agrees that ASU went all out for this deal. Evar Nearing, mathematics professor and chairman of the Microcom­ puter Product Selection Committee, is not convinced of ASU’s efforts. “In my estimation, I don’t think the University did (all it could have done),” Nearing said. “I understood and do understand there’s a difficulty with the Arizona private enterprise bill. If you look at the consortium list, almost all are private universities. “However, some are not. Some made a r­ rangements by which the computers are sold by a foundation or student group,” Nearing said. He said because the Apple contract did not specify any penalty for not meeting their sales quota, “we could have signed it, then thrashed out a way to vend the machines.” Bill Lewis, chairman of the computer science department who was present at the ICSAC meeting, said there was not enough time for ASU to work out the legal details. However, he favored ASU signing the con­ tract anyway. “ I thought the University should have signed the contract, even though there was a quota required to maintain the discounted price, because there was no penalty for not reaching the quota” other than the {nice dis­ count being removed, Lewis said. “The University had to give a good faith commitment for a minimum purchase . . . they didn’t feel they could carry through on the first contract. “ I guess my conscience wasn’t as strong as theirs,” he said. Ken Pollack, chairman of the ICSAC com­ mittee, said it would have been simply il­ legal for ASU to have signed that contract. “There’s no way a vice president of this University could have signed that legally,” Pollack said. He also said ASU considered the possibili­ ty of resale through the bookstore or the ASU Foundation, but there was not enough time to investigate those ideas. “All those took time to find out if that was legally possible and if the organizations wanted to do it,” Pollack said. So Moman proposed a second deal in April 1984, offering the same Macintosh package plus two software supplements for $1,550. ASU Vice President for Academic Affairs Jack Kinsinger signed this deal about one month later. RED LANTERN Pollack said the second contract went through quickly because the resale issue had been resolved. “In this case, it was the same as the deal we had with other vendors . . . it had a com­ pletely different legal status,” he said. 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Len Munsil Editor The conservative movement among our nation’s youth has been under attack in re­ cent months. Liberals of all ages seem to have a great deal of difficulty comprehen­ ding the overwhelming support given Presi­ dent Reagan by my peers. They suggest all support for the president is caused by his “ macho” image, and the elitism they believe he represents, and even encourages Our generation is portrayed as greedy selfish and uncaring. Some of that may be true. But greediness and selfishness are common to all genera tions, including the beatnik generation that came of age two decades ago That group celebrated its selfish pursuit of physical satisfaction through sex, and escaped Its problems through drugs Noble Idaala of “love, peace and brotherhood" disguised this generation's sleety Intentions As for Reagan's "macho" appeal, It Is a fact of political life that voters often choose candidates for reasons not hearing on their ability to function as chief executive. Just as John F Kennedy received voles In I960 because of his appearance, Reagan will garner support In HUMbecause of his tough guy Image Others will vote the Democratic More important in the long run is a presumption that may someday tear down this young conservative movement. The problem was well articulated in a recent let­ ter to the editor here. The letter writer was "puzzled" at the "rad ical right” perspectives of recent State P r e ss editors, and their perceived lack of compassion for those less fortunate than themselves. The most saddening, even startling conclusion drawn by the letter's author was this: young conservatives are so realistic that they do not have dreams. It Is with those presumptions, the last in particular, that 1 beg to differ. I cannot speak for all young supporters of Ronald Reagan. For myself, I must fervently insist that I do indeed dream. There are goals and ideals that I will work, pray, fight and yes, continue to dream for. I seek a society that places value on human life and the rights of individuals. One that allows all the freedoms outlined in the U S. Constitution, including life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Life for the unborn, and for convicted murderers. I seek a society that allows freedom of religion and freedom from religion. A socie­ ty that allows, but does not demand, prayer in public schools. A society that judges politicians on their moral fiber, not their religious affiliation. education and demonstration of the fruits of a free society. For it is not enough to be satisfied in co-existing with evil Soviet government leaders. Those who enjoy the freedoms our society offers while refusing to condemn Soviet oppression are hypocrites. These hypocrites, rightfully outraged at the plight of the disadvantaged in this country, are nevertheless willing to experience “detente” with a ruthless government that oppresses its citizens. The United States has a moral duty to free the people who live under the slavery of totalitarianism. When the greater threat to freedom and human rights — the Soviet Union’s present government — is overcome, we can proceed to clean up the lesser evils prevalent in our society. The lesser evils are important, but will never be rectified if tyranny is allowed to triumph. Thus the attraction to Reagan and the Republican Party. It seems to be the only party with its priorities in order. All election-year political ploys aside, everyone knows who will take a harder line with the Soviets. It is a man who said “the only morality (the Soviets) recognize is what will further their cause, meaning they reserve the right to commit any crime, to lie, to cheat.” So despite his age and his faults, Reagan receives my support, and the support of a majority of America’s youth. Perhaps they, like I, realize Reagan’s policies provide the most freedom and best opportunity for all youth, of all countries, to see their dreams come true. A society that guarantees equal oppor­ tunity to all. A society that rectifies ine­ qualities in education by bettering the educational process, not through ine­ qualities in hiring. A society that allows the free enterprise system to work. A society that encourages the fortunate to help the less fortunate, but does not use the government to force charity. A society where the elderly, the homeless and the han­ dicapped are cared for by its citizens. A society where discrimination, prejudice and bigotry are eliminated through appeals to the intellect. A society where citizens are free to roam throughout the world, from any country to any other. A society where nations maintain their individuality, but unite in peace to help struggling countries, and to guarantee freedom worldwide. A society where pro­ duction of nuclear weapons is not needed to guarantee peace. Many of the conditions mentioned above exist today, in this country and other democracies. Others have not yet come to pass. But one thing is clear — the freedoms we do cherish will be taken away, and the others will never be realized if the Soviet Union is allowed to realize its goal of global domination. More importantly, we in the-United States should be prepared not just to defend freedom, but to advance it around the world. Not necessarily through war, but through 'D o n ’t impose-your beliefs on me’ M ila n The common cry today Is, “don't impose your belief* on me." It reflects a common mlaconreptlon, namely that anyone can impoa* his or her beliefs on anyone else. No single person has the right or the power to Impose his or her beliefs on anyone else. On the other hand, everyone has not only the right, but the responsibility to shape the values of society. Societal values are form­ ed by the concensus of individual beliefs. Whether we like it or not, society does have a value system which is reflected in our laws. The question is what these values will be, not whether or not they will be. Laws derived from these values are designed to protect the rights of the individual to the ex­ tent they do not encroach on the right of another. sen. Hubert Humphrey said a society is judged by the way it treats its very young and very old. Society shares in the guilt or innocence of that judgment. History contains a multitude of examples of injustices condoned by law and/or a ma­ jority of citizens. Many people didn’t see slavery as unjust. Many people didn’t see the slaughter of Indians as unjust. Many close their eyes to the injustice of the Holocaust. Many didn't recognize the in­ justice of racial and sexual discrimination. If it weren’t for a minority of persons who recognized the injustice, and fought against it, these practices might still be continued today. Did those who stood in opposition un­ necessarily impose their beliefs on others? It is with this same commitment that those opposed to abortion now fight to end the era of legal abortions in the United States, where 1.5 million abortions occur each year. Because a majority of people don’t see the injustice, we who take a pro­ life stance are told to keep silent and not to impose our beliefs on others. But we will not. We will work to awaken the conscience of a society blind to an injustice as grievous as slavery, Indian massacres, the Holocaust and racial and sexual discrimination, We perceive legal abortion to be as un­ conscionable as all of these, because when considering the impact of 11 years of legal abortions in the United States, we count not 15 million abortions, but 15 million human lives violently destroyed. Because of this, we have no choice but to speak out. If we re­ main silent, we become contributors to the crime. Others can argue against our percep­ F o o t b a l l is e v e r y t h i n g Kdttors Cindy Law writes (State Press, Oct. 2) that Assistant Sports Editor Jerry Brown’s characterization of Sun Devil quarterback John Walker is unfair. Brown, it seems, has raised the ire of the freshman engineering student with his implication that Walker’s abysmal performance against USC should relegate the latter to the bench. Law, distressed at Brown’s negativism, recites impressive high school statistics for the first-year quarterback and ad­ monished that Walker’s determination might wane in the face of continued unwarranted criticism. Isn’t that just like a freshman? Law labors under the endearing but mistaken impression that there are other things in life more important than foot­ ball. A quick look at the cumulative GPA of the team would suggest otherwise. The heart of the issue is that people should be judged on the hftgis of how well they play and how much they love football. These should be the only criteria. A love of God, a sensitivity to people in need and a deep concern for the preservation of ppafo are all good ingredients for a television mini-series, but certainly fail as yardsticks by which humanity should be measured. The Sun Angel Foundation has the right idea. Football means good parking at the expense of students in dor­ mitories, most of whom are probably too busy taking drugs and having sex to care about football. Football means another donation to the overflowing coffers of the athletic department at the expense of struggling liberal arts programs, most of which probably attract pacifist and homosexuals anyway. But mostly, football means a tax write-off — or at least it would if those damn communists in the IRS would start min­ ding their own business. Football is freedom. Football is America. Football is everything. After the final penalty flag is thrown and the last NCAA allegation is made, when we face the Judgment Throne of the Almighty, it’s not going to matter if during our lives we have loved our neighbor or watched “The Jeffersons” every week. Football alone will matter, atoning for the sins of our na­ tion. For when we stand trembling at the feet of God, He’s not going to ask “How did you live?” but rather, “Can you hit a receiver 50 yards downfield in the face of a raging safety blitz?” The logical conclusion of this thesis is obvious. Journalist Brown’s evaluation is correct; Walker's performance against USC was pathetic. But it’s not enough to bench Walker for the rest of the season. Walker made many mistakes. He should pay for them. With his life. John Walker should be shot, and his athletic deficiencies held up as an example to any idealistic university student who might still believe that life is more than a football game, that a school is more than its athletic department. Graeme Sellers Junior, History tion of abortion, but they cannot argue against our war on abortion, given that perception. In the future, we feel the perception of abortion as a tragedy will not be considered a belief, but a fact. Those who look back upon legal abortion will wonder how anyone could have considered the human fetus to be an amorphous mass of tissue with fewer rights than a stray dog. It is not that society must endure the rantings of people who seek to shape its values; to the contrary, society needs people of vi­ sion and courage to speak out against in­ justice, so that all members are protected, no matter how small, no matter how weak, no matter how unwanted they may be. Ben lioglund Business Administration 'G et it right!' Editor: This letter is a response to the letter by Paul Valach, Steve Schmeltzer and Bill Kintis (Sept. 27) expressing their favored opinion of USC’s marching band in com­ parison to the ASU marching band. You stated that the USC band repeatedly played its fight song, thus lifting the spirits of its team. You may not realize, due to placement of the ASU band during the game, that it constantly played ASU’s fight song, and much more musically I might add. After halftime, ASU’s band, in addition to remaining there for the entire game, has traveling bands playing in different areas of the stadium to raise the spirits of the entire crowd, instead of just a portion of the people. Does USC’s band do this? Also, the ASU band has a powerful tuba section that by itself can lift spirits by playing the Budweiser song and other theme songs. Also, who says the Budweiser song is to be played in the fourth quarter and only when the team is ahead? It raises the spirit of the crowd and that’s all that mat­ ters! The band is there to lift the crowd’s spirit and that is exactly what it does. The band is not there to be ridicul­ ed, but appreciated. Ask yourself what the game would be like without the band there to liven up the spec­ tators. Ask anyone who enjoys a good game. I now extend an invitation for you to join one of the band rehearsals. We’ll saddle you with a tuba and show you the steps and see if you can “Get it right!" Linda Lou Pearl State Press Wednesday, October 3,1984 12311 m ore le t t e r s S c u lly ’s c o lu m n : s w e e p in g g e n e r a liz a t io n s . . . p o o r r e p o r t in g Editor: I am writing in response to Matthew Scully’s column titled, “The political science department: Lenin lives.’’ First of all, to avoid being filed away as a bleeding heart liberal, or worse yet, a “radical,” I am a registered Republican and supported Reagan in I960.1 will proba­ bly vote for him in 1984. Nonetheless, unlike Mr. Scully, I sincerely doubt that all 40,000 students at ASU are conservative. I am a student in Dr. Ashley's POS 160 class and was there last Monday. Could it be there are two Dr. Ashleys? I do not recall him speaking on the creation of a “new in­ ternational order." Even if he truly wanted to, I sincerely doubt he is simple enough to think he will create it by teaching 100 students in a class at ASU. Outside of “terrorism is proof that we need a new world order," whjch was a mis­ quote, Mr. Scully is so certain of his accusa­ tions that he uses phrases drawn completely out of context. Nor do I see Lenin smiling when Ashley says, "much of what we ’know' about international relations is ideological." Mr. Scully, as a columnist, you know that misquotes are a good basis for libel. Even if Scully’s comments were factual, a few three-word phrases aren't even cir­ cumstantial evidence, let alone proof. In any case, a political science course is not conservative professors teaching a con­ servative curriculum to conservative students, as Scully’s column suggests. That is a political indocrination lesson for a new generation of Hitler Youth. Fortunately, while students are required to pay for political science courses which, to paraphrase Mr. Scully, are a waste of time, Mr. Scully has performed the very same service for free. In conclusion, Mr. Scully’s column reeks of the same motivation that so long ago motivated a senator from Wisconsin in the 1990s. Thanks to you Mr. Scully, McCarthy lives. Stuart L. Dollar Junior, Accounting • • • Editor: Oh, Scully. In your column about Lenin and the political science department you made two major errors. The first was a serious reporting mistake. I am enrolled in Professor Ashley's Global Politics class and have attended every day since the semester began. I have never seen you in that class, and Ashley has never said the things you claim he did. Secondly, you made too many sweeping generalizations about the department. Yes, it is true professors Reader and McGaw do stray from the course topics. No matter what course you give Reader, he will talk about the nuclear threat; McGaw has much the same problem, although he strays all different ways rather than being limited to a single topic. But you wrote of only two bad apples in an otherwise good bunch. Editor: I can’t blame Matthew Scully for his Oct. 1 column on the political science department. After all, some people are too small-minded to comprehend that various views can be analyzed without being implemented. Matthew (his childlike views keep me from addressing him with the courtesy title of Mr. Scully) seems to feel there is no room in the political science department for any man who doesn’t kiss President R eap n 's shoe every morning. In political science classes, students learn about various schools of thought. Never, In The political science department, like politics everywhere, is a mixed group. While we have extreme liberals like Reader, we also have very conservative professors, men after your own heart like professors White and Dalgleish (both of whom use the classroom as a place to vent extreme con­ servative viewpoints). There are 26 pro­ fessors in the department, and they run the spectrum from backed-out conservative fanatics to left-wing sillies. But that’s what politics is about, after all. Bill Adair President, PI Sigma Alpha Political Science Honorary Columnist Scully attended Professor Ashley's POS 360 (Current Issues in Interna­ tional Politics) class four times in the past two weeks, where he heard Ashley’s com­ ments on terrorism — Editor. Editor: In his latest indictment of the political science department (State Pros«, Oct. 1), Matthew Scully pauses briefly to note, by way of contrast, that students In my POS 101 class this semester "will be reading a varie­ ty of serious books" — a "fair and balanced selection,” as he puts It. It’s nice to win Mr. Scully's approval, mild as It may be, but It would be even nicer were he to exhibit these virtues of fairness and balance In his col­ umns on this department. Certainly the essay in Monday's paper was neither fair to my colleagues, whose views and methods he distorts and mocks, nor balanced in Its depiction of the political science depart­ ment, which comprises a far more diverse collection of political viewpoints than one would ever suspect from reading Mr. Scully's columns. Mr. Scully also says, "Professor Dagger is no conservative.'' That may or may not be true, since I'm never sure of how to characterise my own views. But I do not like the way he arrogates the term "conservative” to those who share his political Inclinations. For my own part, I would say my views are quite close to those of Qarry Wills, author of "Confessions of a Conservative.” That Wills and I will often disagree with William F. Buckley, Jr., Ronald Reagan and Matthew Scully does not settle the case, for in my view, as in Wills’, the reckless anti-communism and social myopia of the Buckleys, Reagans and Scullys are among the chief threats to the polity which we hope toconserve. Indeed, one of the leading virtues of a con­ servative is supposed to be civility. If one may judge from his diatribes against my colleagues, Mr. Scully is not the con­ servative he takes himself to be. Richard Dagger Associate professor, Political Science • • • Editor: The column printed on Monday, Oct. 1, was misleading. Matthew Scully needs to understand a number of things about Dr. Reader's course before he crucifies the man in print. First of all, Dr. Reader explains the content of the course (POS 101) on the very first day. He has a printed syllabus, and makes it perfectly clear that anyone who does not want to address the issues covered in the class may transfer to another section. Secondly, it is not accurate to say Dr. Reader does not cover political ideologies in his classroom. I took the£ourse in the spring of 1963, and learned a great deal about the nature of political philosophy. Granted, a good part of this understanding came from outside reading, all of which was recom­ mended in class, or in the course bibliography. Mr. Scully seems to imply that in order to learn, one must be “taught,” as if all knowledge comes from lecture notes. For small minds this may be true, but for most of the students in my section the insights gained through open, heated discussion on the topics we addressed were vastly more instructive. I have read John Stuart Mill’s “On Liber­ ty,” and Marx’s “Communist Manifesto,” but not because they were required for a grade. I read them for my own enrichment, and because Mark Reader constantly re­ ferred to them. If you want the - APS propaganda on nuclear power, or the Reagan administra­ tion’s propaganda on nuclear weapons or world politics, turn on the TV or open a copy of the “State-controlled Press.” If you are ready to make an attempt at thinking, take Dr. Reader’s class. Jamie Busch Architecture • • • any of the political science classes I have taken at this University, has one particular opinion been forced on the students. Rattier, it has introduced me to the reasoning by which various political groups derive their stances and opinions. It would be unfair of me to defend the en­ tire political science department; I can only speak for the teachers from whom I have taken classes. But the teachers from whom I have taken classes — some of whom have stated their political views from the first day so students wouldn’t confuse it with the lecture material — have been more unbiased than Matthew, who went digging for a column topic and no doubt knew what he was writing on before he attended any of the classes he so poignantly analyzed for us. The teachers in the political science department have varying methods of teaching; I am not arguing with this point. But if Matthew can go to the other schools on campus and say that the same is not true there, he can come tell us — and we’ll know what he’s full of. In the meantime, to rehash a statement made by Matthew the Great himself, you’re entitled to believe whatever nonsense you please. Keep believing, Matthew. Maybe if you believe hard enough the Easter Bunny will come down your chimney. But never fear! There is a place even for you. Ronald Reagan needs folks like you to write quips for his radio testing sequences. No doubt you’ll begin bombing the Social Sciences Building in five m inutes.. . Mead Summer Junior, Journalism . • • • Editor: In response to Matthew Scully’s column (Oct. 1), I believe Mr. Scully that before you can understand what a professor’s function is at a University you should learn what a good stu­ dent is. A good student is one who takes in all opinions, either taught or read, and sifts through them to make his or her own opinion. If you sat through the classes you described and took of­ fense to all you heard, then I put it to you that you are not a good student. Here is another trait of a good student: he or she is aware of the right to drop from a class. You must not be aware of this system or you could have forfeited these offen­ sive classes. In fact, from reading your opinions of political science professors (by which I feel you mean all professors, since no professor can teach without bias), you might as well stay home. Teachers from high school on down must avoid impressing their opinions upon their young students, while a professor has earned the right to “profess” his opinions in his or her teachings. I feel you are advocating professors without per­ sonalities, the sort of teacher I’m sure you would feel right at home with. Chris Lukert Senior, History LETTER POLICY The State Press encourages letters on any topic. To ensure the best chance for timely publication, letters should be typed and double spaced. Include your full name, class standing, major and phone number. If for some reason a letter must be published anonymously, state why and your request will be con­ sidered. Send letters to: Letters, State Press, Matthews Center, Arizona State University, Tempe, Az., 85287. State Press Contest U n iv e r s ity o f C o lo r a d o S c h o o l o f D e n tis tr y College of Education seeks spirit logo design By MARY ANNE PEREZ Staff Writer Budding artists on campus waiting for the opportune mo­ ment to achieve fame and fortune now have the chance to do so and help the College of Education Alumni Association at the same time. The association is sponsoring a contest to design a logo which “reflects the spirit of the College of Education,” accor­ ding to Blanche Sherman Hunt of the Alumni Association. Any ASU student may submit an original logo in black or red ink on S-by-12 inch paper. The logo should correlate with the College of Education’s slogan “Learning in a New Cen­ tury,” although incorporation of the slogan in the design is not required, Hunt said. “We want a logo which reflects the spirit of the College of Education, to commemorate the past hundred years and to reflect the next hundred years," she said. A prize of $100 and name recognition will be given to the designer of the winning logo which will be reproduced on Tshirts and newsletters and used in other association ac­ tivities, Hunt said. Cronkite to present awards for Journalistic excellence Veteran journalist Walter Cronkite will visit the Valley Friday to present the first Walter Cronkite Awards for Excellence in Journalism and Telecommunication. The awards will be presented to CBS Founder Chairman William S. Paley and CBS President Emeritus Frank Stanton at a public luncheon scheduled at 12:30 p.m. at the Arizona Biltmore. The Walter Cronkite Journalism and Telecommunication Endowment at ASU sponsors the Cronkite Award, which is to be given annually in recognition of distinguish­ ed service to the American news industry. Endowment president Darrow “Duke” Tully, publisher of The Arizona Repub lic/The Phoenix Gazette, said Cronkite Award recipients must exemplify the professional dedication, competency and concern demonstrated by Cronkite himself during his more than 40-year career in journalism. As a reporter, editor, anchorman and cor­ respondent, Cronkite covered news from the battlefields of World War II to the launchpads of America’s space program, reported on the White House and the Kremlin, and focused a national spotlight on everything from political conventions to nuclear explosions. In the minds of many Americans, Cronkite came to personify credibility, sincerity and reason. At one time, he topped the list as the most trusted public figure in the United States, outpolling both the presi­ dent and the vice president. Award winners Paley and Stanton repre­ sent between them more than 80 years of leadership in American broadcasting. Paley, founding chairman of CBS, left his family’s cigar manufacuring business at the age of 27 and with an initial investment of $400,000 in 1929 helped parley the then un­ distinguished radio company into a huge communications empire with 350 radio and 200 television affiliates by 1960. CBS President Emeritus Stanton, always an outspoken advocate of a free press, held the CBS presidency from 1946 to 1971 when he became vice-chairman. He also served on the board of directors of CBS from 1945 to 1978. Reservation information for the luncheon on is available from The Arizona Republic/The Phoenix Gazette community and corporate services department, 271-8846 or 271-8791. TEM PE / IK q C invites you to a discussion of its The deadline for submitting logos is Oct. 24. A “representative group from all facets of education" will select the winning logo on Oct. 26, and it will become the pro­ perty of the College of Education Alumni Association. To select the winner, the association will seek a member of the Arizona Board of Regents, a graphic artist, a student and representatives from the Arizona Board of Education and the art education department, Hunt said. More than one student may create the logo. Hunt said, but the design must be original. Listed on the back of the logo must be the artist’s name, ad­ dress, college, department, class standing and identification and telephone number. “We know our students, and not just education students, are important,” Hunt said. “We want them to celebrate with us and be a part of it.” ASU’s Centennial Celebration and the desire for student in­ volvement prompted thé alummni group to sponsor the con­ test, Hunt said. Logos may be turned in to Hunt in the College of Educa­ tion’s Payne Hall office. D ental P rogram b y T o m B e rry Associate D ean & Chairm an of the A d m issio n s Com mittee O C T . 4, 1 9 8 4 * 7 P.M. 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Democrat candidate Carolyn Maxon and Republican incumbent Juanita Harelson, both running for Tempe’s only state Senate seat, will also participate in the forum. The forum initially was proposed to the in­ cumbents as a debate by ASU political science professor R ichard Dagger, Chuckrey said. Chuckry said the incumbents opposed the debate format and requested it be changed to a forum format. “ I prefer a debate rather than a forum format, but the incumbents wanted a debate," Chuckry said. Dagger’s campaign manager Bill Adair said Todd is afraid to be questioned by his opponents. "Todd knows that Dagger is sharp," Adair said. “ He knows that Dagger will get into his mistakes while he was in office. “Todd owes the voters answers to tough questions." Adair said he is concerned only with a mutual agreement on the debate format. Dagger said he is satisfied with a forum setup because “it is better than nothing.” Having all the candidates in the forum nm KINO may be difficult for the public to understand, but it at least informs people of what is going on, Dagger said. Ponton said although he is not disap­ pointed with the forum format, it may not be a good learning experience. “I just think (the incumbents) are afraid of a debate," Ponton said. “They don’t want consistant media exposure on a platform with us. We may surface some issues that they may not want to be discussed.” Todd had no comment about the previous­ ly proposed debate. He said he was asked to participate in a “forum,” which he will discuss at today’s meeting. Harelson said a forum format is more con­ structive because it creates an interaction with the public. “First, I don’t know if the school will be in­ terested in a debate,” she said. “I don’t know if (a debate format) will be infor­ mative, but I will agree to participate in the event Todd and Hermon decide on par­ ticipating in.” Maxon could not be reached for comment. Chuckry said the he will propose his for­ mat suggestions at today’s meeting. He said he would like to see the forum set up with a panel including the president and executive vice president of the Associated Students of ASU, ASASU senators and the editor of the State Press, Chuckry said. The panel will ask questions to the can­ didates and will field questions from the au­ dience if time allows, he said. The forum is scheduled for 7 p.m., Oct. 23 in the MU. 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Chairman Dan Mardian said 39.4 acres of Tonto National Forest land from the U S. Foreat Service is being used to sup­ plement and expand the already existing facility. “The land has been appraised at $382,000, the rest of the money can be used for structures,” Mardian said. According to Jennus Burton, committee member and business manager for the ASU Physical Plant, the Forest Service is considering the appraisal a recommendation. “Right now it’s just a recommendation," said Burton. “To die Forest Service, the appraisal means nothing. But, it’s a good starting point.” Although the forest service does not consider the appraisal official, “as far as ASU’s concerned, it’s official,” Burton said. Gary Prosper, assistant to ASU Vice President of Business Affairs Victor Zafra, said, “in order to even negotiate with the Forest Service, we need to survey for boundaries.” The committee voted to spend not more than $5,000 on a contract for the survey of the boundaries surrounding Camp Tontocona. An aerial view of the land also was authorized by the com­ mittee. “It will probably be in February of 1965 to get completely through the Forest Service and purchase the land," Burton said. Camp Tontozona, the 7.7-acre resort northeast of Payson, is best known as the preseason practice grounds for the ASU football team. Analysts from the ASU College of Architecture visted the facility Sept. 28 and 29 to develop a land-use plan. Prosper said students are making models of proposed sites for primitive structures at the camp. According to Mardian, ASU President J. 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She was secretary for the San Miguel branch of the National Association of Salvadoran Teachers (ANDES) and, after fleeing her coun­ try in 1981, is retelling her story and the ex­ periences, adding her political views about her country’s situation. Her story is indeed a sad one, and one she shares with many other union leaders in El Salvador. She was kidnapped and held by the government forces for 32 hours, tortured con­ stantly and then left for dead in an alley. After her recovery, she left the country with her husband but left her children in El Salvador. The scars from her emotionally- and physically-draining experience are still there. She painfully recalls the moments her toenails were taken out, when she was beaten with rifle butts and given electric shocks by the national guards. Other people have suffered at the hands of an extreme Salvadoran faction, such as Armando Ballesteros, a pseudonym for a man who re­ quested to remain anonymous. Ballesteros also had to flee El Salvador but for different reasons than Rivera. He was the head of a wealthy family in San Salvador. But four members of his family were kidnapped by the guerrillas for ransom money. They knew they were not safe in El Salvador, so after the ransom was paid and the family h Statt Natives to speak on members released unharmed, they escaped. The Ballesteros are lucky. The guerrillas have been known to kill people they kidnap. Ballesteros estimates the guerrillas have received over $40 million through kidnapping. Both Rivera and Ballesteros have aifferring stories about their country. It could be said they lived on the opposite sides of the same coin. Rivera claims the Duarte government is still torturing union leaders, students and peasants. She said Amnesty Intenational has proved Duarte’s record on human rights has been even worse than the past junta government. The 1983 Amnesty International figures show a large number of human rights violations af­ fecting students, teachers, academics and university staffs. Duarte entered the govern­ ment in June 1984, and Ballesteros said Duarte has improved his government’s record on human rights. Ballesteros, who returned from El Salvador two weeks ago, said Duarte is actually sym­ pathetic to the socialist cause. Duarte wrote a book called “Comunitarianism,” which is a suggestion that communism and Christianity can be established together. “The situation in El Salvador is very calm now,’’ Ballesteros said. “Duarte’s human rights record has improved tremendously because he himself suffered from the abuses of the army.” Marvin Aiisky, an ASU political science pro­ fessor and expert in Latin and Central America, said the Duarte government has made discernible efforts to bolster the political activities of all the labor unions in El Salvador. "This is a priority of the Christian Democratic Party,” Aiisky said. Ballesteros claims the ANDES leaders form­ ed the communist guerrilla leadership. He recalls Melida Anaya de Montes as president of the teachers’ union, making several trips to Nicaragua, Cuba and the Soviet Union with another leader, Cayetano Carpio. Carpio and Anaya were both killed while in Nicaragua as a result of inner squabbles among the guerrilla leadership. According to Ballesteros, the governr has found arms arsenals in tunnels whichi located under schools and the National Uni slty before it was closed by the govemn Teachers were suspected to have been res sible for that. Rivera said her own union activities t reduced to helping the poor and educatinf children. She said many teachers were in' ed in guerrilla activity but they always lef union before joining the front. Death squads in El Salvador have been rorizing the nation by abducting, killing i cilessly and threatening the population, stories on the origin of these squads differ. The guerrillas say they are governn sponsored troops, which, according to it reports, is most likely. The government they are guerrillas disguised as govern] troops to give the government a bad image Ballesteros said the guerrillas keep tw< ferent shirts at all times, so if they atta village and are shot by a guard, they’ll tak the “guerrilla" shirt and keep a peasant on. Rivera claims the guerrillas — or repri tatives of the people as she referred to the are supported wholly by the general popt and are regarded as the defenders of the pie. “The people know who has been suppo them for the past 50 years." Rivera said. But, Aiisky suggests, if they are gene supported, then why have they only been to take over two provinces in four years? 1 two provinces, San Miguel (where R comes from) and Morazan. are on the theast, bordering Honduras, and the direc to Nicaragua. Ballesteros said he had knowledge of ab< guerrilla offices located in the United SI “Where do they get the money from? Salvadoran Embassy in Washington a even buy postage stamps." Ballesteros sai Rivera said if the guerrillas were supp by the Nicaraguans, Cubans and Soviets, they would have won the war long ago. The U.S. government reports withoui KS Tiesta *Bowl Q ueen C ontest Sponsored by Bullocks and KDKB Radio Do you enjoy m eeting interesting and exciting people, festival fun, and action-packed football? Are you a single female betw een the ages of 19 and 24? Are you a stu d en t enrolled in an Arizona university or junior college, carrying a minimum of 12 academ ic hours? 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Phoenix, Arizona 85018 T State Press Page 11 Wednesday, October 3,1984 iak on living conditions iros, the government in tunnels which were i the National Univer1 by the government. 1 to have been responunion activities were oor and educating the teachers were involvut they always left the ront. lvador have been terbducting, killing merj> the population, but ese squads differ, hey are goveramenti, according to recent The government said ¡uised as government ment a bad image, uerrillas keep two dif!s, so if they attack a guard, they’ll take off d keep a peasant shirt srrillas — or represenihe referred to them — f the general populace ; defenders of the peoio has been supporting s,” Rivera said, if they are generally ve they only been able es in four years? These liguel (where Rivera azan, are on the Noriras. and the direct link d knowledge of about 62 1 in the United States, he money from? The in Washington cannot s." Ballesteros said, ‘rrillas were supported ibans and Soviets, then ; war long ago. it reports without one trace of doubt that there is pro-communist in­ filtration. President Reagan said in his televis­ ed address May 9, 1964, that “it is in (the American government's) national interest to help Central America: and morally, it’s the on­ ly right thing to do." He also said the Soviet bloc had aided Cuba and Nicaragua with $4.9 billion while the U.S. only contributed $0.8 billion. He said Soviet aid funnels from the bloc to Cuba to Nicaragua and finally to the Salvadoran guerrilas. Many people believe the outcome of war in El Salvador will be decided through public opi­ nion. The congress makes decisions over how much aid to send to Central America by what they hear and what they believe. According to Alisky, the fight for public opinion explains speeches like Rivera’s. But Rivera said her purpose was only to ask solidarity of the people of North America so they will stop their government’s military in­ tervention in El Salvador. “Politically, I am in favor of the people. This war is in all fields, especially economic. There are many people in the cities that are controll­ ed ideologically. One-third of the population is controlled ideologically by the government,” Rivera said. She said she would spread her message through her testimony. “There are 300,000 refugees, more than anything in Los Angeles,” Rivera said. The people from the United States are begin­ ning to take their own measures to ameliorate the problems they believe will lead to another Vietnam. Protest groups are forming. Teachers unions, like the Arizona Federation of Teachers are calling for a stop to repression and sponsoring speakers like Rivera to tour the state. They are writing their congressman, signing petitions, staging protests and hoping their ef­ forts will materialize into a true beginning of peace and democracy. Ballesteros will wait for his country to return to a relative peace and security. Then he will go back. Housing near campuses to integrate young, old By National On-Campus Report Many New York neighborhoods oppose universities building new dorms near their urban campuses. But these same neighborhoods need additional housing for the elderly. An “intergenerational housing" plan developed by several social service agencies and five area universities may offer a solution. Under the plan, new facilities would be designed to house old and young together. Such dorms, planners say, would stabilize neighborhoods and offer an attrac­ tive alternative to institutionalization for many elderly New Yorkers. The schools—Columbia Univerisity, the Graduate Center of the City University of New York, Queens College, Yeshiva University, and the P ratt In­ stitute — are spread geographically throughout the ci­ tyEach of the five schools involved in seeking funding from the Federal Department of Housing has a slightly different proposal for its campus. The plan for Colum­ bia would include a 12-story building with 104 apart­ ments for the elderly and a 10-story dorm with 105 rooms for Columbia students. In between them a sixstory tenement with 24 apartments would be renovated as a cooperative for low-income families. Common rooms would allow all the complex’s residents to en­ counter and learn from one another. Planners understand that different age and interest groups have different needs, but they believe a mar­ riage of young and old can work if carefully thought through before hand. Some proposals call for housing only graduate students or upperclassmen in these dorms; others look toward placing students with a special interest in gerontology there. Ron Cannava, director of college relations at Queens College, sees an intergenerational facility as another step forward in the college’s efforts to integrate itself with the community and the region. Queens College presently has no residential students at all. However, concern for good community housing isn’t new to the college, says Cannava. Queens College has operated the Center for Metropolitan Action in cooperation with the P ratt Institution for several years. One of the center’s main concerns has been housing, he says, so an intergenerational dorm at Queens would demonstrate the practicality of ideas they’ve long been developing. GRAND OPENING (Formerly Zip's Square Burgers) Calling All White Castle Lovers! 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O CTO BER 5 See details in Friday’s press «#» • T IM E S S Q U A R E B U R G E R S • FIL M S E R IE S s t a le — — COUPON— r — 1 State Press Minority _ Chicano student-aid program lacking at Arizona colleges, study says By VICKIE CHACHERE Staff Writer A two-year study completed by the Arizona Association of fhfrtipn« for Higher Education concluded that Hispanic students are underrepresented at ASU and a strong recruiting and retention program is ladling. According to Miguel Arciniega, ASU associate professor of counselor education and president of the 200-member group, Arizona's three state universities lack the recruiting and student-aid programs necessary to attract an amount of Hi«panit>students representing the percentage of Hispanics in the state. , The 200-page report outlines 25 suggestions for im­ provements in the recruitment and retainment of Hispanic students for ASU, U of AandNAU. The Association will present the report, currently in draft form, to state legislators, the Arizona Board of Regents, members of the Arizona Board of Education, community col­ lege administrators and business leaders from around the state, Nov. 2, at U of A. The report was funded by the Association without any out­ side contributions, Arciniega said. He said the main problems universities face in dealing with Hispanic students are recruitment, giving the prospective students access to the university, showing concern for the student« once they have enrolled and providing them with in­ formation on financial aid. The study recommends solutions to the problems in resear­ ch faculty and staff recruitment and retention, student recruitment and retention, program and curriculum develop­ ment and community involvement A major recommendation for improving Hispanic ment already underway at ASU is the establishment of the Minority Community Relations Center. Interviews are being held for the director of the center. “The other two major universities in the state already have one,” Arciniega said. The absence of Hispanic faculty members is another factor contributing to low enrollment, Archiniega said. Presently, 3 percent of ASU’s student population is Hispanic, Arciniega said. According to the Affirmative Ac­ tion Employees Analysis Report, published last Wednesday, 2.7 percent of ASU’s full-time faculty is Hispanic. According to Frank Hidalgo, associate professor of com­ munity relations, minority enrollment is directly related to the number of minorities on the faculty and staff. “Without a (Hispanic faculty), it is difficult to attract and retain Hispanics on any campus," Hidalgo said. Arciniega said, “When people come on campus, they want to see somebody they can identify with.” Assistant Dean of Students Art Carter said, “community colleges seem to have greater numbers of minorities on staff, and a greater minority enrollment.” Hidalgo and Carter said finances also contribute to the absence of Hispanics on campus. Both increased funding of minority organizations and increases in financial aid will help the situa ton, they said. Carter said Hispanic students, like other students, have definite concerns over the funding of a college education. 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