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Arizona State University
Vol. M , No. 29

October 19, 1973

state
press

Inner conflicts
trouble program

Aloft In thought .
. . . Cindy G raper on a reading break in the M U .
Photo by Jeff Klda

By JIM BRALY
ASU’s clinical psychology program lost ac­
creditation Monday because of conflict within the
department over the conduct of the department’s
affairs. “Hie conflict had a negative effect on the
faculty and students and on the quality of the
clinical training program,” according to a report,
by Dr. Charles Woolf, dean of the College of
Liberal Arts.
Woolf said that full details of the department’s
affairs will not be released until after the decision
has been appealed.
“The program has had a stromy history. I
knew there was a problem there. I was afraid this
might happen, and it did,” Woolf said.
The clinical psychology program was given
provisional accreditation in 1965 by the American
Psychological Association ( APA), which accredits
all doctoral training programs in clinical
psychology.
The program was placed on probation in 1967.
It was given full approval status in 1969 but was
again placed on probation in 1971.
Accreditation was removed Monday in a letter
from the APA, Woolf said.
“This action was taken after review (by the
APA) of the report of the APA site visit team
which visted ASUon April 16and 17,1973,” Woolf’s
statement said.
The APA report says improvements in the
University clinical psychology program have been
made. However, the improvement has not been
sufficient to warrant restoration of full ac­
creditation.
The APA reviews university programs every
two years.
Programs needing improvement are placed on
probation for a limited period, usually not more

Activist group
gives other view
of war treatment

The North Vietnamese imported turkeys and
built bakeries in Hanoi so American prisoners
of war (POW) could eat well, said Bob
Chenowith, a POW for five years. He made the
statement while addressing 200 people Wed­
nesday night in the MU Arizona Room.
The North Vietnamese discovered
Americans traditionally had turkey on
Christmas and Thanksgiving, so they imported
turkeys to feed them, he said. When they
discovered Americans prefered bread to rice
they built bakeries to provide the bread.
Chenowith is touring with a group called the
Indo-China Peace Campaign, which consists of
anti-war activist Tom Hayden; French
, mathematics teacher, Jean Pierre Debris; and
anti-war singer, Holly Near. Chenowith said he
is touring to dispel misconceptions about the
way American POWs were treated by the
Vietnamese.
American prisoners ate twice as jnuch as the
average Vietnamese, he said. The Americans
were given three meals a day while the prison
guards ate twice a day.
The average Vietnamese family has one
mosquito net and one blanket per member,

p e rsp e c tiv e

than two years. During this time the program has
an opportunity to improve to meet standards for
full accreditation.
“It is very important for ASU to have a fully
accredited program, and we will take the
necessary steps to have an accredited program,”
Woolf said.
“In order to help the teaching and research
program in clinical psychology, Dr. Austin Jones
has resigned as chairman of the department of
psychology effective the end of the academic year.
He will devote full time to teaching and research
in clinical psychology,” said Woolf’s written
statement.
Jones was director of the clinical psychology
program until a year ago. He has been chairman
of the psychology department since 1970.
A committee is presently searching for a
replacement of Dr. Jones, according to Woolf’s
written statement. Jones could not be reached for
comment.
Woolf emphasized the action taken
against the clinical program in no way reflects on
the experimental, physiological, social, and en­
vironmental psychology programs.
He said it has no effect whatsoever on the
undergraduate students in psychology. The
clinical program is for doctoral training.
“Hie present plight of the clinical psychology
program resulted from a series of events that have
evolved over the past six or seven years,” said
Woolf’s written statement.
Woolf said the clinical program will appeal the
decision within 30 days. If the appeal is rejected,
they will reapply for accreditation at a later date.
Dr. Ronald Kurz, an officer of the APA, said the
program can reapply for accreditation at any time
but improvements will have to be made.

Jean Pierre Debris
Chenowith said. The average American
prisoner had a net and three blankets and could
receive more by asking.
• Continued on page 2

WEATHER
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The hidden costs of university life

• — See Perspective, pages 7 and 8.

Forecast for the greater
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sunny days through Saturday
witti highs near 100. Overnight
lows in the knrer 60’s.

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Continued from page 1

Saudi Arabia orders oil cutback
King Faisal of Saudi Arabia ordered a 10 per cent cut­
back in oil production reported the Saudi state radio
yesterday.
A palace statem ent also threatened a total halt of Saudi
oil shipments to the United States unless the U.S. stops
sending w ar aid to Israel.
The statem ent said the 10 per cent cutback will be in
effect until Dec. 1, when a five per cent cutback per mdnth
will become effecfive.
Saudi A raHa is the largest oil producing country in the
Middle East. It produces 8.5 million barrels of oil per day.

He feels the American people are led to
believe there was a systematic policy of tor­
turing American prisoners in North Vietnam.
“This was not the case,” he said.
A group of career officers said systematic

Israel says 110 tanks destroyed
Israel claimed to have destroyed 110 Egyptian tanks, and
to have broken the Egyptian momentum Thursday in what
has become the biggest and perhaps most decisive battle in
the 13-day-old Middle E ast war.
The Egyptian m ilitary command said its forces hadi
encircled the Israeli forces and had issued a demand for the
Israelis to surrender or be killed. Cairo said it shot down 12
Israeli jets and captured four pilots in the second day of the
Sinai clash.
The Syrian front of the war appeared to be calm , the
Israeli command reported.

Hostages held in Beirut
An estim ated 40 or 50 hostages were being held by five
gunmen at the Bank of America office in Beirut, Lebanon
Thursday. The gunmen said they would kill the hostages and
blow up the building unless their demands were met.
They demanded the release of Palestinian guerrillas in
Lebanese jails, a $l0-million ransom and an airliner to take
them to Yemen or Algeria. The gunmen said they were
m em bers of the L ebanese Socialist R evolutionary
They set up a noon EDT Thursday deadline for their
demands, but the deadline passed and negotiations were
continuing.

Baltimore bar investigates Agnew
From er Vice President Spiro Agnew is under in:
vestigation by the Baltimore County B ar Association to
determine if disciplinary action should be taken against him.
Results of the investigation will be kept secret until the
association’s executive board decides whether to go to court
or not. The association cannot take any action against
Agnew, a lawyer before he entered politics, until he has a
chance to defend himself.

Krogh pleads innocent
Egil Krogh Jr., former boss of the White House plum­
bers, pleaded innocent Thursday to charges th ath e lied to the
W atergate grand jury.
A federal grand jury indicted Krogh last week on
charges he lied when asked about the activities of other
W atergate conspirators.

Tom Hayden
torture did take place but Chenowith said it did
not exist the way American officers were
trying to portray it.

He said he lived with 108 American prisoners
during his five years of captivity, and none of
them ever related incidents of torture.

Following Chenowith’s address Debris told
how he had been arrested and jailed in South
Vietnam for distributing anti-war leaflets.
He spent two-and-one-half years in the main
Saigon prison. Debris said he soon became
aware of torturing of Vietnamese political
prisoners by prison guards.
He related incidents of rape, torture and
huntings of a systematic character. He said one
woman who. was arrested was pregnant but
was tortured anyway. An electric wire was
attached to her breasts, and she was shocked
into unconsciousness many times.
When hie baby was born the mother could not
even nurse it because her breasts were much
too painful, he said. The baby died and the
women in the cell refused to give up the body to
the guards. He said they kept it as a reminder.
Debris said American advisors continued to
come to the prison, but no changes came about.
The Saigon prisons are financed and main. tained by American money going into the Thieu
regime, he said.
The final speaker was Hayden. He said he is
touring to dispel the idea that the war is over.
“There is no peace and no honor unless the
peace agreement is implemented,” he said.
He is trying to focus the issue in the public’s
mind so the public can bring pressure to bear to
get it changed. “All the 200,000 political
prisoners should be released,” he said.
Hayden said Americans have to take the anti­
war campaign seriously. “More than 4,000,000
Americans have demonstrated in the streets
against the war.”

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He believes POWs were spared torture
because the Vietnamese blamed the American
government, not the American people.
“The Vietnamese people have never really
looked at the American people quite in the
same way, fortunately, that the American
government has tried to get the American
people to look at the Vietnamese,” he said.

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No money, no transcripts
says state law to vets

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the second floor of the Architecture building.
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second-year architecture students who did not wish to be |
identified.
Many architecture students feel the Dean, James E lm ore,;
does not interact enough with file students, and thqy wanted to
prove it.
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Elmore six days to find out about it As soon a s he discovered the
trampoline ha ordered it removed, the students said.
Also, they said, for four years the College of Architecture has i
been promising to make good use of the inner courtyard. To i
date, the m ost use cam e from displaying occasional projects,!
flie stndf"% said.
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By KEN PHILLIPS
Veterans are prohibited by
state law from sending out
transcripts if they have
deferred their registration fees,
even if the payment is not due.
Veterans are allowed to sign a
promissory note letting them
defer registration fees for up to
120 days.
John O’Steen, a pre-med
senior, made this discovery
when he wanted to send out
transcripts to several medical
schools. After completing the
transcript request forms,
O’Steen went to the cashier’s
window in the Administration
building to pay the necessary
fees.
“She (the cashier) said there
was no way the University could
send out any transcripts until I
made the deferred payment,”
O’Steen said.
“When I asked why, the
cashier said that the University
had nothing to do with the
regulation . . . that it was set
up by the V.A. (Veteran’s
Administration),” O’Steen said.
O’Steen then went to the VA.
office hi the Moeur building for
an explanation.
“They said they couldn’t do
anything, that it was -a
University ruling,” he said. He
was referred to the Registrar’s
Office.

Spomer said he would instruct
clerks at the cashiers window to
refer cases similar to O’Steen’s
to Joe Ladrigan, manager of
Accounts Receivable. Instead of
refusing all similar requests for
transcripts, each case will be
considered separately, he said.
At the University of Arizona,
the state law is interpreted
differently. Veterans who have
not paid tiieir deferred fees are
never allowed to have tran­
scripts.
“We make no exceptions,”
Eugene Matt, director of Ac­
counts Receivable, said.
But according to the sponsor
of House Bill 2206, the bill was
not intended to prevent
veterans from applying to
graduate school.
“We certainly never intended
for it to tie up a person’s
transcripts,” Rep. William
McCune, R-Phoenix, said. “I
had never taken that into
consideration.”
McCune said representatives
from the state’s colleges and
universities will be meeting
Oct. 27 in Tucson to discuss
problems caused by legislation
or interpretations of state laws.
Amendments to existing laws
may be proposed at the
. meeting, he added.

“He said he had absolutely no
idea what was going on. But he
called someone in the Business
Office,” O’Steen said.
That someone was Henry
Spomer, assistant comptroller,
O’Steen told Spomer the
deferred payment wasn’t due
until the end of October and he
had to have the transcripts sent
out.
Spomer agreed to send the
transcripts.

Spomer said the restriction on
transcripts was included in
House Bill 2206 to help insure
veterans would . pay their
deferred registration fees.
Passed by the Arizona
Legislature in 1972, this is the
same bill that allows veterans
to defer registration fees at all
state-supported colleges and
universities for up to 120 days.
Spomer said representatives
from many of the state’s
colleges and universities met
after the bill was passed to
decide how it should be in­
terpreted.
“We may be wrong in our
interpretation,” Spomer said.
However, Spomer said
because O’Steen is a continuing'
student he allowed the tran­
scripts to be sent out.
“ As far as I know, this is the
first one to came up,” Spomer
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S ta u ffe r B ld a .

Documerica series highlight dedication
By DEBBE NELSON
P re se n ta tio n
of
32
photograp h s from the
D ocum erica se rie s and
television personality Hugh
Downs will highlight the
dedication of ASU’s Stauffer
C o m m u n ic a tio n A r ts
building Monday.
D ow ns,
h o n o ra ry
chairm an of “ Friends of
Channel 8,” will speak a t
10:30 in Studio “A” of
KAET-tv oil broadcasting
and the fre e en te rp rise
system, said Robert Ellis,
d ire c to r . of ASU broad-'
casting.
“ He’s been involved in
b ro ad castin g 20 o r 30
y e a rs ,” E llis said . “ He
servéd on the ASU faculty as
guest lecturer, and was the
first chairm an of “ Friends
of Channel 8.”
G liffo rd H a m p s h ire ,
p ro jec t d ire c to r in the
Environm ental Protection
Agency, will present the
D ocum erica se rie s, said
Cornelius Keyes, assistant
professor in the department
of mass communications.
K eyes w as one of 50
photographers contracted to
contribute to the series.

'Show where we are'
“ The g overnm ent felt
they needed to document the
environment,” Keyes said.
“ They w anted to show
where we are today — in
both good and bad ways.”
“ Man’s been writing on
walls and using pictures for
communication since the
beginning of tim e,” he said.
“ Photography is a com­
m unication th a t can be
understood by all — it
relates people to people, and
people
to
th e ir
en­
vironment.”
As a result, he said, the

g o v e rn m e n t
d e c id e d
photography would be the
best media for thejr project.
“ Only twice iiTlhis cen­
tury has the U.S. govern-.
ment called upon the per­
su asiv e
pow ers
of
documentary photography
to explain and promote far
reaching program s,” Keyes
said.
Permanent holding piace

with TV,” Keyes said. “ It’s
refreshing to sit back and
look a t stUl photographs and
realize their significance.
“ The photos h ere a re
extremely im portant — and
their value will increase i
w ith tim e ,” he said.
“ T hey’ll
te ll
people
generations from now what
w as
b eau tifu l
ab o u t
A m erica and w h at its
problems w ere.”

He said the first time was
in the 1930’s just after the Great historical value
G re a t
D e p re s s io n .
Also going on perm anent
President Roosevelt wanted
exhibit
will be a collection
to m ake the public aw are of
by
E.D
.
N ew com er,
conditions to prom ote
Arizona’s
first
newspaper
favorable.legislation.
photographer,
Keyes
said.
“ Dorothy Lange, Walker
“
N
ew
com
er
h
a
s
been
E v an s,
and
oth ers
documented the problems of covering Arizona since 1928.
the farm ers — the disasters His photographs have an
am o u n t
of
— to show the public that the e x tre m e
sig
n
ifican
ce
an
d
g
re
a
t
legislature was sitting on
historical
value,”
he
said,
their hands in response,”
A sem inar on documen­
Keyes said
ta
ry ph o to g rap h y con­
“These pictures were lost
cerning these exhibits and
th ro u g h
b u re a u c ra c y
bumbling — somehow they work of other photographers
disappeared,” he said. “ I will be presented Tuesday,
thought it extremely im­ Oct. 23 a t 1 p.m. in the
portant to have a perm anent .E d u catio n L e c tu re H all,
holding place for this second Keyes said.
Dedication and - presen­
series.”
tation.
cermonies will begin
Thirty-two photographs
from the Documerica series a t 10:30 a.m . in Studio “ A,”
Ellis says. “There will be
will be housed permanently
limited seating for 400. The
in the Stauffer Building.
program will be video-taped
Pictures depict America and will be played back a t
6:30 on Channel 8.”
The ex h ib it includes
p ic tu re s
d e p ic tin g
America’s beauty — two
people- swimming in clean
blue w ater, and America’s
ugliness — a child standing
on a doorstep surrounded by
dirt and garbage.
“ People today have been
visually polluted with ratty
and good stuff — especially

Along with Downs, other
sp eak ers w ill include
Hartford Gunn, president of
the Board of Managers of the
P u b lic
B ro a d c a s tin g
S ystem ,
and
G ifford
Hampshire, Documeriad-I
se rie s p ro je c t d irec to r
within the EP.A.
Recognition of service
Dedication participants
will include John Schwada,
u n iv e r s ity
p r e s id e n t,
M argaret Christy, president
of the Arizona Board of
Regents, and Mrs. Charles
Stuaffer, guest of honor and
wife of the building’s
nam esake, Ellis said.
The
S tau ffer
Com­
munication Arts building is

located on the west edge of
ASU and houses the Mass
Communications
Depart­
ment, KAET-tv, Chanel 8,
and parts of the Speech and
Theatre Departm ent.
Charles A. Stauffer was
president of the corporation
owning
th e
A rizona
R epublic and P hoenix
G azette, He w as also
president of the Alumni
Association for three term s
and the Chairm an of the
first fund-raising drive for
’ ASU.
He died in 1970.
The Stauffer Building will
be dedicated to him in
recognition of his years of
service to -the development
of journalism in Arizona,
and devotion to ASU.

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BYU 'underrated'

Kush talks up Devil opponent
By JE F F STREET
E ach week ASU football
coach F ran k Kush finds a
way to m ake the opposition
look better than their past
performances indicate.
This week is no exception,
as the Sun Devils m eet the
B rig h am Young C ougars
Saturday a t 11:50 a.m. in
Sun Devil Stadium.
“This m ay seem like an
old adage, but BYU is
p ro b ab ly th e m o st un­
derrated ball club th at we
have seen,” Kush said.
“ In fact, I would go as far
as saying this is the best
BYU team that I have seen
in the 19 years I’ve been
affiliated as a coach with
Arizona State.”
“ T h ey ’v e ^ b een
un­
fortunate in a couple of the
ball gam es they’ve lost and
very easily could have won
them with a few breaks,” he
said.
The Cougars have played
four gam es this season,
losing three of them by
relatively close scores. In
their first outing, a fired up
Colorado State team pulled
a 22-13 upset, in Provo. They
followed with a victory over
Oregon State (37-14) and two
straight losses to U tah State
(13-7) and Iowa S tate (2624).
“ I’m ju st hoping they
don’t get the breaks in this

particular ball gam e,” Kush
said. “ Because they are
explosive and they have a
quarterback who can throw
as well as anybody.”
The q u a rte rb a c k K ush
was referring to is Gary
Sheide, a junior college
tra n s fe r who won th e
s ta rtin g q u a rte rb a c k job
and then suffered a pre­
season leg injury. Sheide
started his comeback tw o .
weeks ago against Utah
.State and completed seven
of 11 passes for 125 yards
an d one touchdow n in
limited action.
The 6-2 junior completed

29 passes in 41 attem pts for
439 yards and two touch­
downs last week in a losing
effort against Iowa State.
BYU head coach Lavelle
Edw ards said, “ Gary is a
good quarterback and is ju st
now coming into his own
after the injury. It wasn’t in
oiir gam e plan to throw that
much last week. Iowa State

prevent the long, quick­
scoring plays.
“We’re not planning on
stopping the whole ASU
offense, because I don’t
think anybody can,” he said.
“The big thing is stopping
the home run, the bomb or
die screen. That’s where
they’ve hurt us in the post. If
we can contain W hite
was w eaker against the pass
so we kept on passing.”
Edw ards also said the
four interceptions Sheide
threw provided Iowa State
with needed scoring op­
p o rtu n itie s and enabled
them to gain the winning
margin.
Ju st like other opposing
coaches, Edw ards feels his
team will have to contain
the Sun Devil offense and
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and move the ball ourselves,
we will be right in there.”
“The best way to beat
ASU is to keep the ball away
from them and not give
them the chance to score,”
Edwards said.
Kush sa id sophom ore
ta ck le D ave O rzell is
pushing sen io r G erald
Slemmer for a starting spot
against the Cougars and
changes are being m ade to
compensate for a lack of
strength a t the tight end
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ASU-BYU afternoon game

Six WAC teams play
inter-conference games
By ROGER WITTLIN
Arizona looks for its sixth
s tra ig h t win S atu rd ay
a g a in s t
s o u th w e s te r n
pow erhouse T exas Tech,
while six other WAC teams
m eet in league play.
Arizona hasn’t had much
luck with Texas Tech in past
years. In t h e ' 23 games
played between the two
schools, Texas Tech has a
commanding lead, with 20
wins and only two losses.
Assistant head coach and
defensive coordinator Larry
Smith said, “ This gam e with
Texas Tech is particularly
im p o rta n t to our team .
Arizona has never had a 6-0
team before, and the fact
that we haven’t beaten Tech
in 13 years gives us an added
incentive.”
Smith Said Tech has an
outstanding defensive team
and th e ir offense h as
cap italized on num erous
defensive turnovers.
In five g am es Texas
Tech’s offense has lost the
ball just seven times, four
by fumbles and three by
interceptions.
Arizona p u n te r M itch
Hoopes has a 46.3 yard punt
a v e ra g e an d lead s th e
nation.
“ M itch h a s been a
tremendous help to our ball
club. With him punting the
ball fifty yards a boot, it’s
keeping the opposition deep
in their territory,” Smith
said. “ The defense hasn’t
given up the long play which
is causing a team to drive a

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Arizona is the last WAC
team with a chance to defeat
T exas Tech. Tech has
defeated Utah (29-22) and
New Mexico (41-7).
In a WAC contest at
Larmie, Colorado State (3-3
overall, and 1-2 in the WAQ).
faces Wyoming (2-3 overall
and 1-2 in conference play).
CSU head coach Sark
Arslanian said, “ I ’m very
pleased with the team ’s
progress so far. Last year
we only won one gam e and
with three wins under our
belt already the team has a
feeling of confidence.”
Arslanian said Wyoming
q u a rte rb a c k
S te v e
C ockreham is th e b est
running
and
passing
quarterback his team will
see this year.
In another WAC game,
New Mexico hosts Texas-El
Paso.
The M iners n arrow ly
missed their first victory
last week against Lam ar.
Leading 27-14 a t the half, the
Miners lost the gam e on a
Lam ar touchdown with 12
seconds remaining.
New Mexico’s only win
this year was against nonconference foe New Mexico

expects attendance drop

State. The loser of the New
Mexico-UTEP gam e drops
to last place in the WAC.
Also this weekend Utah (32 overall) m eets San Jose
State, a team which lost to
ASU 28-3.
Led by flan k e r Steve
Odom, U tah
d efeated
Wyoming 50-16 last week.
Odom ca u g h t a *41-yard
touchdow n p a ss
from
q u a rte rb a c k Don Van
Galder and returned a punt
78 yards for a score. The
return, Odom’s 21st career
touchdown, set a school
record.

ASUAthletic Director Fred Miller said Thursday the attendance
expected for Saturday’s ASU-Brigham Young football game in Sun
Devil Stadium is around 40,000, about 10,000fewer than usual.
“The student pickup is low,” Miller said. “Only about 4,000
tickets have been claimed by the students.”
Miller said the main cause of the low'ticket buying is the change
of kickoff time from night to day. The game, originally set for 7:30
p m., was moved up to 11:50 a.m. when ABC-TV announced plans to
televise the game regionally.
“We’ll get about $73,000out of televising the game, and yet we’re
going to have a depressed gate of about $30,000 so we’ll probably get
about $40,000 in all,” Miller said.
Last yew, a «inillar situation occurred when ABC announced its
intentions to televise the ASU-Air Force game. The athletic depart­
ment gave refunds to ticket holders that could not make the change
from night to day.
>
This year no refunds are being given, according to Miller. “If we
would give refunds, the money we stand to gain would be next to
nothing,” he said. “Last year we gave refunds that amounted to
about $30,000. If you give away that much money in refunds it would
be foolish to televise the game in the first place. It’s just not good
business.”

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The hidden costs of college
By SHARON SIMPSON
Gambling?
Borrowing?
S ta rv in g ?
P r a y in g ?
Working? Armed robbery?
What’s a student to do?
The G e n e ra l C atalog
advises students they will
spend approxim ately $100 a
year, $50 a sem ester, on
books and supplies.
In spite of the inf. ¿onary
shadow th at has spread over
the nation and the ASU
cam pus, this $100 figure is
unchan g ed .
The
un­
su sp ectin g
s tu d e n t
is
therefore, ill-advised and
often c a u g h t fin an cially
unprepared for classes that
“ re q u ir e ” $40 w o rth of
books or for classes that
advise the student to obtain
special equipment to pass a
course. Since this special
equipment sometimes costs
tip to $100 alone, many
students complained.

The catalog lists some
fees not covered by tuition
on pages 22-25. Dr. K arl H.
Dannenfeldt, academic vice
president, considers this list
“hopelessly out of date and
misleading entirely.
Some of the fees listed
include
th e
sp ecial
examination fee of $1.00
(charged “when, because of
absence, or for any reason,
it becomes necessary for a
student to request a special
examination in any course,
a fee of $1 may be required
for this special privilege.” ),
a $5 graduation fee, $10
binding fee for the doctoral
dissertation, and the $.50
charge for vocational test
m aterials.

Rewriting catalo g
J a c k P en ick , a s s is ta n t

vice president of business
affairs, is in the process of
rewriting these pages for
the new printing of the
c a ta lo g n ex t fall. He
stressed that die' amounts
liste d w ere “ ad d itio n al
costs, not fees.”
“ In the bowling class, ,for
instance,” Penick said, “ the
University doesn’t get that
m oney. I t goes to th e
bowling company.”
P en ick
s a id
ASU
P re s id e n t Jo h n Schw ada
had discussed the fee list
with him and had formed a
com mittee to rew rite the
pages.
“We are rewriting those
four pages (22-25). We have
taken some of the things
listed and knocked them out
completely,” he said.
Penick said all additional
costs to the students above

tuition should be listed.
D annenfeldt also feels
students should be advised
of ad d itio n al costs. He
suggested these costs be
listed in the Schedule of
Classes.

Excessive costs
Textbook costs are one
area students often com­
plain about and the costs
vary extensively from class
to class. Students in Survey
of R ussian C ulture, a re
“ required” to buy $40.90
worth of books. Comparitive
Arts I lists five books for the
class totaling $44.80.
If a student enrolls in
Introduction to Government
and Politics, the bookstore
shows five “ required” books
for section one totaling
$21.95 while section two lists
two books totaling $12.45.
P ro b lem s o f A m erican
Government, section one,
lis ts textbooks a t $31.50
co m p ared to $18.15 for
section two.
Some
c la sse s
don’t
re q u ire any textbooks.
Seven Agriculture-Industry
c la sse s re q u ire .no te x t­
books. Many music, music
p e r f o r in a n c e , p h y s ic a l,
education, th e a te r and
graduate classes do not
require books, according to
the m aster book list a t the
ASU Bookstore.
“ T h ere has been no
limitation set dollar-wise,”
Dannenfeldt said. “There
has been encouragem ent
over die years that these
costs (textbooks and sup­
plies) be kept down. The
administration is concerned
with the cost and added
burdens
placed
on
students.”
D annenféldt feels th a t
often the faculty is not
aw are of the high cost of
textbooks. He said since the
faculty member gets a free
'copy of the textbook, they
are often not aw are of the
current cost of textbooks
they require.
“ There a re two things the
faculty should observe and
follow,” Dannenfeldt said.
“ They should not change
textbooks freq u en tly and
ev ery facu lty m em ber
should be very much aw are
of the cost of books
required.”

Cost conscious prof
Dr. Robert C. Lamm,
professor of humanities and
music and director of the
Center for th e ,Humanities,
co n sid ers him self “ ex­
tremely conscious of the
cost of books.”
“The first thing I ask is
the price,” he said. “ There
are a number of people who
reluctantly give up a book if
it costs too much. There are
enough of us who do care,”
he said.
L am m
teach es
the
Comparative Arts I class
“requiring” books totaling
$44.80.
“ The class is for majors
only,” he said. “We want the
best books for them at the
lowest prices. These are
books that they can keep all
their lives.”
Lamm noted the books are
to be used four semesters.
He added that additional
selections are contained in
the c la ss syllab u s. The
syllabuses can be purchased
in the bookstore.
D r.
G eorge
Peek',
p ro fesso r
of
political
science, te ach es 1PS100.
section one, the more ex­
pensive Intro, to Govern­
ment and Politics section.
He said only two of the books
listed in the bookstore are
used re g u la rly and the
others are “recommended
reading, not required.”
Peek said, “ Students can
always buy books together.
There are also second-hand
books available or they can
use the library.”
*

Students complain
One of Peek’s students.
D ebbie Wolfe, fresh m an ,
like many students, bought
her books before going to
class.
‘‘When we got in there, he
(Peek) said two of the books
w ere ju s t fo r outside
readings, if you Vwere in­
terested. Well, I had already
bought them by then,” she
said.
The trend to buy books
early is gradually changing,
however, said Francis D.
K eller, m a n a g e r of the
Student Book Center.
“ H ie trend is the other
w ay now ,” s a id K eller.
“There still is a sizeable
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Text books only the beginning

Hidden costs: they can hurt
Continued from page 7

number of students who buy
books ahead, however.”
Keller said his store en­
courages students ^ to buy
early. “W e' can give the
students better service if
they buy early, and there is
also a better selection of
new and used books. If they
(die students) keep their
receipts during the first tyfo
weeks, they can bring /the
books back if they don’t
need them .”
ft
“ I ivould like to make the
point,” Keller added, /“that
if an/instructor isn’t going to
require a book, I wish they
wouldn’t tell us it was
required.”
Susie B lake, ju nior,
bought her books before
going to class, too. She said
one teacher later told her
class that their $8.95 book
was “ irrelevant.” Another
teacher informed her class
that they wouldn’t use the
$13.00
book
he
had
“required” because it was
“too involved for them .”
Political Science major,
Diane Hutchinson, junior,
said she is often required to
buy 6-8 books and then read
only two or three chapters in
them.
H u tc h in so n
b e lie v e s
teachers should supplement
their courses through lec­
tures rather than require a
book for only a few chap­
ters.
She considers her books
an investment, however. “I
don’t sell my books back. I
keep all my books in my
personal library. I figure
that if I don’t read them

now, I can re a d them
sometime.”
M any
stu d en ts
a re
financially unable to keep
their books.
Keller noted about onethird of the students return
their books to the student
Book Center. “Only a small
percentage of the books that
are out are returned but
returns have always been
pretty good,” he said.
Like
m ost
of
the
bookstores serving the ASU
campus, the Student Book
Center buys books back at
half of the list price if they
are going to be used again
and a r e in reaso n ab le
condition.
However, if the books will
not be used next sem ester or
if teachers haven’t informed
the bookstores which books
will be needed again, the
refunds are according to
wholesale, listing, usually
well below the student’s
orig in al p u rch ase p rice,
Keller said.

Other costs
Textbooks are often only
the beginning expense for a
class. Many students are
faced with additional ex­
penses such as commuting
to observation schools, lab
coats for cooking classes,
boots for riding or hiking
classes, bowling or surfing
fees, science b reak ag e
deposits, m ilitary uniform
deposits, and housing
deposits.
Art students must con­
tinually provide m aterial
for classes which is often
costly.

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“Every week there is
something else,” she said.
“ I couldn’t change m ajors.
I’ve got too much invested in
this one.”
One teacheF required his
students to buy a special
kind of paper for the next
class session. “ He gave us
two days to get it and said
he’d flunk us if we didn’t get
it. We had to go to àn obscure
little store in Phoenix and
then it was $.35 a sheet,”
Hillman said.

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Photography classes in
both the a rt and m ass
com m unication ' d e p a rt­
ments require students to
have a cam era in addition to
the
p u rc h a se
of
photographic m aterials.

asstis

The class syllabus for M C.
310, News Photography, a
required course for Jour­
nalism-Education m ajors,
advises students in buying a
cam era, “weigh this m atter
carefully, because it could
mean a failing grade if you
cannot produce the work
assignménts because you do
not h av e th e c o rre c t
equipment.”

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