WEBVTT 00:00:11.339 --> 00:00:13.339 yeah, 00:00:13.839 --> 00:00:19.107 mm hmm. The ko why Arizona network news department presents an exclusive 00:00:19.140 --> 00:00:23.956 transcribed program climaxing a historic meeting in phoenix today? The 00:00:23.989 --> 00:00:29.116 next voice you hear will be that of governor pile by way of introduction? 00:00:29.149 --> 00:00:34.557 I should like to say that for a long time we have been planning to secure 00:00:34.590 --> 00:00:38.357 the cooperation of the leadership of the various tribal councils around 00:00:38.390 --> 00:00:42.787 over the state to make a pretty close personal analysis of some of the 00:00:42.820 --> 00:00:47.866 problems that face these tribal councils and at the same time to explain 00:00:47.899 --> 00:00:51.457 in as much detail as possible the position of the state of Arizona in 00:00:51.490 --> 00:00:56.097 relation to these problems. I think our meeting today at Adam Hotel has 00:00:56.130 --> 00:01:00.436 been an outstanding contribution to general understanding. We didn't 00:01:00.469 --> 00:01:04.406 decide anything, we didn't solve any problems, but we at least sat down 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:08.406 and spoke frankly to each other about all of these things that concern us. 00:01:08.439 --> 00:01:12.367 And I believe as a result, The 30 Odd persons who have come in from 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:17.016 various parts of the state are going away feeling a little closer to the 00:01:17.049 --> 00:01:21.447 situation than previously, perhaps with a little less malice and prejudice 00:01:21.480 --> 00:01:26.406 in their hearts and above all. And most important of all, some hope that 00:01:26.439 --> 00:01:30.387 by working together we can eliminate some of these difficulties. We have 00:01:30.420 --> 00:01:35.046 invited a quartet of the gentleman who were present today too, visit with 00:01:35.079 --> 00:01:39.126 us briefly. I speak first of George fisher who was here representing the 00:01:39.159 --> 00:01:43.837 colorado River Tribal council at Parker Arizona and I'm going to just ask 00:01:43.870 --> 00:01:48.027 a few questions covering fundamentally what took place here today in order 00:01:48.060 --> 00:01:52.027 that you might have a little better appreciation of it when you began to 00:01:52.060 --> 00:01:55.486 think about it in your home George, do you think it's been a pretty fair 00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:58.887 meeting? I think it's been a wonderful meeting and I think everyone is 00:01:58.920 --> 00:02:03.576 enjoying themselves and I think everything has been pretty well thoroughly 00:02:03.609 --> 00:02:07.096 thrashed out and I wouldn't say we're a third thrashed out, but I think it 00:02:07.129 --> 00:02:11.436 was done to a certain extent where we can, we will understand each other 00:02:11.469 --> 00:02:15.936 someday George. What chance do you think we have of organizing the 00:02:15.969 --> 00:02:20.117 southwest inter tribal council that we've talked about here today? I think 00:02:20.150 --> 00:02:24.717 you, I think the tribe has a wonderful chance. The tribes do have a 00:02:24.750 --> 00:02:28.226 wonderful chance of accomplishing something that it would actually carry 00:02:28.259 --> 00:02:33.337 them forward to. Something that would be more more or less progressive for 00:02:33.370 --> 00:02:37.087 them to carry on as far as the indians are concerned. Do you share the 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:42.427 general feeling here that we must unify our efforts in behalf of all of 00:02:42.460 --> 00:02:47.186 the tribes and cease this business of working separately and alone? Yes, I 00:02:47.219 --> 00:02:51.897 think we should be pretty well unified and work on the problems that we 00:02:51.930 --> 00:02:56.406 have and work it to a certain extent where we could all understand one of 00:02:56.439 --> 00:03:02.647 how many indians do you represent George, I represent Approximately 1300 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:07.367 in there. How is the agricultural project down on the Colorado going along 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:12.457 well, I think the project on the Colorado River reservation is getting 00:03:12.490 --> 00:03:20.490 along very fine and we have been on a progressive end of everything and I 00:03:20.680 --> 00:03:26.186 think to my knowledge that the engines of the colorado colorado River 00:03:26.219 --> 00:03:30.006 reservation are going to do a wonderful job in the next few years to come. 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:34.256 Good. Well George, I'd like to thank you personally on behalf of all of 00:03:34.289 --> 00:03:37.636 us who were here today for the long trip you made in order to attend a 00:03:37.669 --> 00:03:41.346 meeting and I hope you feel that it has been worthwhile, It has been 00:03:41.379 --> 00:03:44.886 worthwhile and I think it was educational. Thank you very much. George 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:49.006 fisher representing the Colorado River tribal council over around parker. 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:54.036 Our next voice is that of Clarence Wesley of the san Carlos Apache Tribal 00:03:54.069 --> 00:03:57.666 council. I believe you're from san Carlos Arizona aren't you? Wesley, that 00:03:57.699 --> 00:04:00.997 is right, I'm from san Carlos. How long have you been identified with the 00:04:01.030 --> 00:04:06.517 management of the tribe? I've been on the tribal council for 12 years now 00:04:06.550 --> 00:04:09.846 and has served as chairman of the Council for four years. Where did you 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:13.976 get your education Clarence, I got my education in government schools from 00:04:14.009 --> 00:04:19.166 the 22 to 25 I attended phoenix indian school and from 25 to 32 I attended 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:23.046 Albuquerque and in high school, do you feel that you were pretty well 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:27.656 educated as the provision would allow. No, I don't think I was properly 00:04:27.689 --> 00:04:34.187 educated due to due to lack of, of uh curriculum in the school, it was up 00:04:34.220 --> 00:04:39.137 up and standards like uh other other schools like state schools and 00:04:39.170 --> 00:04:44.137 therefore I think I'm not well educated. You mean completely educated, 00:04:44.170 --> 00:04:47.267 completely educated, threat. That is fine. Now, you made quite a point 00:04:47.300 --> 00:04:51.926 today Clarence of the need for education. Would you amplify that a little 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:55.757 for the benefit of our radio audience speaking now as an indian in behalf 00:04:55.790 --> 00:05:00.647 of your people and other tribes? Well, my people uh there's only 66 high 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:05.457 school high school graduate and only one college graduate according to the 00:05:05.490 --> 00:05:09.257 statistics that was brought out by uh- Frank bough of a house of 00:05:09.290 --> 00:05:14.736 representatives. And it is true that we should stress education and each 00:05:14.769 --> 00:05:21.717 child, I mean each parents is being informed that their Children sure go 00:05:21.750 --> 00:05:28.296 to school, get a college education, so whereby they can be an effort like 00:05:28.329 --> 00:05:32.306 they're trying to do for the indian people. Now. You spoke a minute ago 00:05:32.339 --> 00:05:36.726 about the standard of education not being the equal of that provided for 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:42.257 Children in other racial groups. Do you mean by that? That perhaps the 00:05:42.290 --> 00:05:46.967 teachers who teach the indian Children on the reservation schools perhaps 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:51.317 couldn't qualify for jobs in the regular public school systems. I don't 00:05:51.350 --> 00:05:53.806 know what kind of assistance they had and during that time I went to 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:56.996 government school, but I understand all the indian schools, especially 00:05:57.029 --> 00:06:02.337 phoenix is now in the standard with state schools, they are standardized. 00:06:02.370 --> 00:06:06.187 I've been informed, how do you feel about the meeting today? Clarence. I 00:06:06.220 --> 00:06:10.877 think it was educational like Mr fisher said every one of us came here 00:06:10.910 --> 00:06:15.866 with the thought of uh exchanging ideas and I think in time that we will 00:06:15.899 --> 00:06:20.967 accomplish something, we will work with a government, state government and 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:26.416 I think and more in time to come that things can be developed where we can 00:06:26.449 --> 00:06:30.226 understand each other more thoroughly. Then you don't think the thing is 00:06:30.259 --> 00:06:35.306 entirely hopeless. I don't think the thing is hopeless is favorable. Thank 00:06:35.339 --> 00:06:38.077 you very much, Clarence Wesley. And we hope you'll carry our greetings 00:06:38.110 --> 00:06:42.536 back to the san Carlos Apache tribal council at san Carlos Arizona. And 00:06:42.569 --> 00:06:48.207 now I'd like to speak just for a moment with Sam. Archaea. Sam is the 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:52.957 chairman of the great Navajo tribal council with headquarters at window 00:06:52.990 --> 00:06:57.197 rock Arizona. Sam you represent the largest of the indian tribes in this 00:06:57.230 --> 00:07:02.616 area, don't you? Yes, I believe that's what we are told that the Navajos 00:07:02.649 --> 00:07:07.567 are the largest tribe in the United States. How long have you been 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:13.166 identified with the tribal council? Sam? Well, this is my second term is 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:18.337 the chairman to the tribal council and I served four years under the 00:07:18.370 --> 00:07:23.277 capacity of the vice chairman. Sam. What do you consider to be the most 00:07:23.310 --> 00:07:28.717 acute problem that the Navajo has today. As far as his tribal life is 00:07:28.750 --> 00:07:36.750 concerned, the most I could acute problem is the education, the school for 00:07:38.470 --> 00:07:43.496 a younger generation, but we feel that the younger generations are the 00:07:43.529 --> 00:07:51.529 people that we care on the tribal problems after us. 00:07:51.939 --> 00:07:55.957 How about hospitalization in public health, the hospital is the next 00:07:55.990 --> 00:08:03.990 important, oh we do not have adequate health situations over the Navajo 00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:07.806 country. 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:11.286 An improvement of that would be a great benefit to you. Would the approval 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:16.306 would be a big benefit of the tribe and we have been trying to get 00:08:16.339 --> 00:08:23.017 Congress to build more hospital for us and somehow or other that Congress 00:08:23.050 --> 00:08:27.967 has been pretty much backward. Sam wouldn't it be a great help to you if 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:33.396 you had the reservation roads opened up so that the members of your tribe 00:08:33.429 --> 00:08:37.057 would find it a little easier to gain access to the hospitals that are 00:08:37.090 --> 00:08:43.346 available. Our real problem is very bad over the reservation and we've 00:08:43.379 --> 00:08:50.207 been trying to get Congress government to build the roads and we just just 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:58.240 standing still. So my hope of coming down here is we might get the state 00:09:00.509 --> 00:09:06.197 of Arizona to build some of the road with the probably money on the long 00:09:06.230 --> 00:09:13.486 range program. Uh, what is known as a 10 year rehabilitation program for 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:17.587 the Navajo and the Hopi how do you feel about the meeting today Sam, do 00:09:17.620 --> 00:09:23.766 you think it was worth the time you took to come in? I was very much 00:09:23.799 --> 00:09:28.986 interested of meeting the leaders of the different tribes. I've lived 00:09:29.019 --> 00:09:36.657 there all sincere for the betterment of their people as I am of the number 00:09:36.690 --> 00:09:44.126 of people. So I feel that the meeting here has been very good meetings and 00:09:44.159 --> 00:09:49.717 getting acquainted between different leaders of the tribe and I hope that 00:09:49.750 --> 00:09:54.976 this is not the first meeting that we will have other meanings and later 00:09:55.009 --> 00:10:01.106 on. Well it will not be the first and last meeting. Sam we hope to set up 00:10:01.139 --> 00:10:05.057 a semi annual arrangement with these same leaders or those who succeed 00:10:05.090 --> 00:10:08.667 them in an effort to keep in constant touch with the problems that face 00:10:08.700 --> 00:10:13.516 all of you. Sam we appreciate you coming down all the way from your part 00:10:13.549 --> 00:10:17.177 of the world. It's quite a long trip and we hope that while you're here, 00:10:17.210 --> 00:10:21.236 you're able to work with these gentlemen who are trying to work out the 00:10:21.269 --> 00:10:25.726 master council of all of the tribal leaders so that sometime soon we can 00:10:25.759 --> 00:10:29.087 begin to work on a more unified basis. Friends, we've been talking with 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:34.106 Sam A Kia, the chairman of the Navajo tribal council with headquarters at 00:10:34.139 --> 00:10:37.217 Window Rock and certainly one of the most cooperative individuals I've 00:10:37.250 --> 00:10:42.236 ever met. He has a great responsibility in the 70,000 Navajo who are 00:10:42.269 --> 00:10:46.937 responsible for the way of going in that part of the world and we know 00:10:46.970 --> 00:10:52.287 that he bears this burden with a great realization of the obligation that 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:57.276 is his. Now finally, I want you to hear from Tom Segundo. We call him tom 00:10:57.309 --> 00:11:01.526 his official name would be thomas. He represents the Papago down around 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:06.037 the cells Arizona area. I think you're about ready for your famous fair, 00:11:06.070 --> 00:11:11.486 aren't you? Tom Yes, it's coming on the 27th and 28 October. This will be 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:17.947 what number in the list? It will be the 16th annual paprika, indian rodeo 00:11:17.980 --> 00:11:21.907 and arts and crafts exhibit. Do you think it will be bigger than ever? 00:11:21.940 --> 00:11:25.766 It'll be the best one ever staged, I assure you. Well, that's wonderful 00:11:25.799 --> 00:11:28.226 tom let's talk a little bit about the meeting today. What are your 00:11:28.259 --> 00:11:34.606 reactions to it? I think it was a very good meeting, I believe also that 00:11:34.639 --> 00:11:39.837 all of the tribal leaders who came here today realized before they ever 00:11:39.870 --> 00:11:46.106 entered the conference room here, that nothing decisive could be done here. 00:11:46.139 --> 00:11:52.807 But that this was a stepping stone and the forerunner really to the event 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:57.417 that will eventually, I think bring fruit. I think that we all realized 00:11:57.450 --> 00:12:03.307 that the immediate solution cannot be seen, but that, that we are actually 00:12:03.340 --> 00:12:07.957 on the way now. How do you feel about the unification under a master 00:12:07.990 --> 00:12:13.327 council? I'm all for it. I believe that the paper goes realized long ago 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:20.907 that a unified group gives to any race of people to any group of peoples, 00:12:20.940 --> 00:12:25.917 the power and really the resources with which to carry forward their aims 00:12:25.950 --> 00:12:31.896 , their purposes. And I think that the accomplishments will justify a 00:12:31.929 --> 00:12:39.126 unified group. How many persons do you represent tom Approximately 7500 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:43.096 paper goes. And you have any very special problems that are confronting 00:12:43.129 --> 00:12:48.927 you now, I was very much interest at governor pile in the statement made 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:55.307 by Mr Kia, mm hmm. Navajo tribal chairman and have always been very much 00:12:55.340 --> 00:12:59.907 interested not only in the individual Mr Kia, but also in his tribe. 00:12:59.940 --> 00:13:03.677 Because I think their situation somewhat parallels that of the capital. 00:13:03.710 --> 00:13:08.927 Although I have stated officially before congressional groups and before 00:13:08.960 --> 00:13:14.417 other groups that in some ways, although on necessarily on a smaller scale 00:13:14.450 --> 00:13:19.516 , some of our problems are even worse than the Navajo. But I have always 00:13:19.549 --> 00:13:24.707 qualified that statement that with Navajo, it is on a much larger scale. 00:13:24.740 --> 00:13:29.307 The same problems with more of it is. Yes, I think that's well, we 00:13:29.340 --> 00:13:33.447 sincerely hope tom that the results of our meeting today will justify the 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:36.976 time and the effort that you've all put into it with wonderful of you to 00:13:37.009 --> 00:13:40.687 lay down your regular assignments of work and come in here and spend the 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:45.136 afternoon with us. I hope that your attempts to organize the Master 00:13:45.169 --> 00:13:49.467 Council will go forward to immediate fulfillment so that we can begin to 00:13:49.500 --> 00:13:53.077 work with committees that will be designated to consider the question of 00:13:53.110 --> 00:13:57.717 welfare and education and hospitalization and state participation in 00:13:57.750 --> 00:14:02.116 federal reconciliation and all that sort of thing. I think perhaps if such 00:14:02.149 --> 00:14:05.506 a thing can come to pass, then this meeting will really be something 00:14:05.539 --> 00:14:10.386 worthwhile. Well governor. I'm very well satisfied with the results we 00:14:10.419 --> 00:14:15.427 have gotten here and I'm sure that when all of the tribal leaders go into 00:14:15.460 --> 00:14:20.006 their inter tribal council meeting tomorrow, each one of them will bear in 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:24.157 mind the statements which are made and I believe every one of them 00:14:24.190 --> 00:14:28.236 appreciates the sincerity with which you made statements and believe that 00:14:28.269 --> 00:14:31.407 you are 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:36.707 really very deeply interested in the end. Well, you can certainly vouch 00:14:36.740 --> 00:14:41.736 for that. Tom the indians of Arizona are very close to all of our hearts. 00:14:41.769 --> 00:14:46.187 Friends, I think that about rounds it up. The 13 councils represented 00:14:46.220 --> 00:14:50.356 today have done an excellent job of reviewing the situation and we 00:14:50.389 --> 00:14:53.427 sincerely hope that the outcome of our effort will be something even more 00:14:53.460 --> 00:14:57.407 fruitful and productive of good. 00:14:57.440 --> 00:15:01.356 You have just heard an exclusive transcribed program presented by the ko 00:15:01.389 --> 00:15:05.657 why Arizona network news department, the narrator and interviewer of the 00:15:05.690 --> 00:15:11.006 Arizona indian tribal leaders was Governor pile. 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:14.580 This is gail y in phoenix.