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at this point, I like to include two other things that I forgot. one of

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them is

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graduated at Arizona State University
Uh in 1963,

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I remembered upon receiving my notice
that yes, I have met all the

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requirements and that I'm going to be
graduating with a degree. I decided

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that I should invite back, I shouldn't
say back, I should invite those

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indian school teachers who would not
give me a recommendation to go on to

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college and that I made it, I'm
getting my degree and I want them to

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celebrate with me. And so I sent out
all the invitation and I didn't hear

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from any one of them. And the only
person that uh was so happy was the

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coach. He said I knew you were able
and capable and and uh you just did

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what needs to be done and
congratulations. And uh he called me and I think

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he even wrote me a little note. So
that was something that, that I did. Mm

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The other point is is that upon
graduating from phoenix indian school, a

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situation where

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not many teachers were oriented to
cabin their Children get, receive a

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college education and uh going around
and talking to them about the

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possibility of recommending me if they
could sign a statement that says

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yes, I'm capable of doing the college
work. Uh huh. They were not in tune

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with that. They just absolutely
refused to do that. And they said that

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we're a good school were a vocational
school boarding school and we do

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very well in industry that are
building buildings out there. We're not a a

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college oriented institution where we
prepare students were that kind of

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desire to go on to college and we
believe that the majority of our indian

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students are better off going into the
community with some trait that they

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learn here and they're very good with
their hands and their good workers.

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And so that was the reason that they
gave me for not recommended me. But

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you know uh in every group like this
there's always somebody that has a

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higher goal and higher aspiration. I
guess I was one of those individuals

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and my point to them was that okay
that's that's good and fine. Yeah, I

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know that the institution that's what
it's all about. But I just want a

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simple recommendation that says that
uh I am able and I am cable if I can

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apply myself that they can gamble and
take a chance on me. That's all I

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wanted was that opportunity the door
to become open and get me into a

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small community college which
shouldn't be any big difference between what

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is that indian school and what is at
the community college and that's all

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I was seeking. But unfortunately they
agree with that. Let me go back to

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where I was. So as a construction
estimator I was able to read blueprints

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and figure out the labor cost and the
material costs and then about how

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long it will take to build those
facilities that was challenging You had

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to really, really steady the
blueprint. You have to understand that the

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work of the architect and then you
have to understand your labor force and

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and all of that. And I really liked
it. And I like and I and I like

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working Therefore about two years.
Yeah. And then one day, mhm bob russell

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, the late bob russell gave me a call
and he says, mhm. There's a guy that

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you should meet who has a grant from
the federal government and it's a

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program that is like the Peace Corps
program. And uh this person that I

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want you to meet, his name is malin
Parker. And malin Parker wants to talk

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with you and you. I think we'll do a
good job for him in training the

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Vista volunteers and getting involved
with some of that volunteer work.

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Yeah,

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I think it's this one.