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 good. Yeah,

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I guess one of the things that also
needed to be raised and to add to my

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conversation on schools and education
on the Navajo is that yes, it was

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hard to transform education from
federal boarding schools away from the

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reservation back to the neighborhood
nation on

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the Navajo reservation because what I
saw was a gradual parental

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involvement that grew out of uh, that
federal policy establishing schools

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on an indian reservation. And it was a
tough time period where where we

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saw for, for example, for many years,
the Navajo people were sent in their

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Children off reservation many many
years and I was a product of that. And

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the parents never really had a role.
They sent their kids away from the

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family environment, nine months out of
a year. So the parents didn't have

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us for, for except for three months
out of the year. And so in the long

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run, who's going to win out in terms
of influencing their, their Children

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, of course, the federal government,
what they were trying to do is going

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to win out because they have us for
nine months and our indian parents

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only had us for three months. And so
that was that kind of a dilemma that

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took place. And then all of a sudden
for the federal government didn't

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turn right around and say where going
to get ourselves out of educating

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the indian students away from the
reservation boarding school, we're going

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to begin, uh, we're going to begin
building schools back on your own

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territory, back on your reservation.
Now you have to learn how to

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participate

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in the running of schools and the
teachings of uh, your own Children were

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then that's your responsibility in the
neighborhood. Parents had a hard

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time dealing with that issue because
they really didn't know what uh, the

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non indian people were saying to them
and why they were saying that I

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guess on the downside was maybe
someone of a Navajo traditional upbringing

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and thinking that that's an insult
because yes, we love our Children and

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we liked and we love to have them
here. But why are you still telling us

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how we should educate our Children?
When you're on one hand, you're,

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you're telling us that we now need to
be responsible for our own Children.

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But yet you're still telling us as
parents what we should tell them how

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we should teach them what they should
learn. So, uh, the uh, the insult

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was probably back on the, on the other
foot. And so I saw some difficult

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times with the neighborhood parents
trying to understand that dilemma. And

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of course when never a nation began
taken a full control of their own

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educational institution in the
systems, the local community. They went at

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it 100 once that was understood and
uh, I guess the best evidence in terms

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of how that transformation was done
was the teaching of Navajo culture,

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language and history, uh huh by the
local institution and some may say

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that what kind of evidence do you have
to show that one of the outstanding

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thing that I have been seen during the
last several years when I go out

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and visit the schools. For example
just this year I had an opportunity to

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go into a class to go into a classroom
uh at the various high school

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starting at Gray Hills High School,
Tuba City High School, Monument Valley

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High School in Canyon to and Monument
Valley High in Utah, Shiprock High

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School, Window Rock, Benado Navajo
Prep Crown Point High School to Apache

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high School gallop. Hi going into
those high schools in the neighborhood.

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This is only for this year. My own
involvement. one of the things that is

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so outstanding that hit you is that
any time you talk to the youngsters,

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the young people that are going to
those institutions when they introduced

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themselves, they don't introduce
themselves only simply using their name.

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That's that's secondary using your
english name. But the first thing they

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say is I am this clan, my father's
clan is this and my grandfather's clan

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, my maternal grandmother's clan is
this. And uh and that's the first

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thing they see, they say to me when
they're in the process of introducing

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themselves and then they say I want to
go to your school at A. S. U. And I

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want to know what kind of classes you
offer and what kind of scholarship

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and dormitory program do you have. So
that's the first thing that they

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tell you and you know, and, and
they're very proud of saying that, very

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proud of said, you could have never
Heard 30 years ago. Uh, Navajo

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youngsters wouldn't, wouldn't tell you
that they wouldn't know. They

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wouldn't really know because the whole
educational institution, the system

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was trying to get them out of their
Navajo goodness into modern, uh, quite

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ways of, of life and education that
they were imposing on the indian

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students. And so by visiting these
schools, that's what I hear. And the

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second thing they, they tell you about
is these cultural instructions and

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neighborhood history. They will tell
you that maybe there's less of that

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than the clan system. But the fact
that they're making an effort, the fact

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that they know, they may not know all
the details. They may not know the

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dates. They may not know all the
things that happened specifically the

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novel people, but they know that
there's a history, neighborhood history

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in the long walk, never whole history
on all of these other events that

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took place. Now. For for me, uh,
that's a great progress that the

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neighborhood nation is making because
if we keep that up For the next 10

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2030 years, you're going to really
have a nation onto itself, A nation

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that is self determined. A nation that
really understands where it has

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been in a nation that really, really
understand where he wants to go. So I

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really, really think that never, who
has has a future. Yes, We hear a lot

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about drug involvement, Yes. We hear a
lot about alcohol and the meth that

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has a, uh, gone onto the Navajo nation
among the youth. You know, those,

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those are man made things, those are
problems that they're also challenges.

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And I think under myth controversy on
the Navajo, the Navajo people

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really rose up in armed this year,
last two or three years and they're

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really fighting it very effectively.
And so it's going to take those kinds

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of community involvement, uh, to get
these kinds of terrible things that

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are happening to the level of people
in local schools and local community.

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It's up to them to get rid of that. No
one's going to get rid of them for

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them. And so they're, they're
basically involved in effectively come, uh,

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dealing with that. And so there's a
lot of community cohesiveness based on

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what is happening at the local school.
Many, many of the community

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activities really revolve in many
cases around the school and what the

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school is able to achieve. And I'll
give you one or two a good example, Uh

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, in the 19

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70s and 1980s, when the Navajo people
in the, in Tuba City began taking

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the full control of their local
schools at Tuba City High, They went all

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the way to support in there, high
school sports program. And I remember

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the, going to high school basketball
games and football games and I

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remember going to cross country and
track meets and those kids were so

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proud of themselves and the tuba, city
high school women's basketball team

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took the state championship maybe four
or five times Uh, during that 20

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year, 15 year period Where to be city
was # one. They won the state

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tournament and to have that state
tournament here at the America West

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Arena where the phoenix Suns
professional basketball team plays, they had

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those state tournament basketball
tournament at that gymnasium and

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neighborhood people would come by the
large numbers, fans, families,

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relatives, and they would fill that
place up with never who supporters.

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And it was very hard for the people
here in phoenix too, to understand

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that, To understand why the
neighborhood people would drive 300 miles to

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come to support their high school
basketball team. And so the way I saw

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that there was, there's a, there's a
big community pride, there's a

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tremendous amount of support, support
for the local school in those

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communities and natural people. Uh,
you know, I love their love their

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Children, love their grandchildren,
they go any distance how far they

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drove, it didn't matter how much it
costs to get there. It didn't matter

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the fact was that they wanted to
support their school, they wanted to

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support their Children. And so that's
what happens. That's what happens

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when you educate and motivate the
parents enough so that they go all the

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way to support the activities of their
local uh, sports program. Now let's

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transfer that over to the city of
phoenix. You know, I live in a school

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district here in the phoenix And it's
a big five a school, they don't get

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that number at their basketball game,
even at the state meet the state

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tournament, they don't get that
number. And you know, there probably maybe

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1000 Or 2000 at the most that I have
seen by non Indian teams. But

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wouldn't it was Navajo? It's not
unusual to see 14,015,000 people at these

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games. And so I think people should
just learn from that, that when you

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get the indian people involved in
supporting Some worthwhile things like

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basketball games and supporting their
Children, you know, they go out 100%

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and support and I'm only used in tuba
City as an example. Well that

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happened with Window Rock High School,
that happened with Monument Valley

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High school and this year with Ganado,
the girls basketball team went all

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the way and took the state champion.
Uh, and so it's something that, Uh,

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you know, the Neville people are very
proud of and if you look at New

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Mexico, look what she broke high
school did back in the 70s. You know,

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when they had that tremendous
basketball team and the whole community of

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shipwreck going over to the pit in
Albuquerque or university of New Mexico

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lobo basketball team plays and you
know, during the state tournament, that

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place is just full to capacity with
neighborhood supporters. And it was

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really, really something to see. And
for me as an educator and as an

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observer, what the Navajo people
really, really sold on is this self

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determination and I'm using only the
sports progress as an example and I'm

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following one other thing that's
happening The last two years. For example

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, last night I was reading about the
spell and be that just took place at

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the national level here about a week,
two weeks ago. And there were some

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neighborhood kids that went all the
way to, that went all the way to

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Washington D. C. And uh, and they
participated, sure they lost that and

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they got eliminated in the second
round or so, you know. But the thing

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about it is that we're up there, we're
up there, we're on the, on the

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verge of having one of our never who
youngsters become a national champion

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in spelling spelling bee program the
contest. And so it's the Navajo

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people in the Navajo Children are the
future of the Navajo nation. And

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they're doing all of these things
because the Navajo parents are giving

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them that, that desire that the
support that they really, really need to

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do something very well in the
community. Uh, and, and there never will,

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kids are very proud of doing all of
these things, Look at what happened in

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the community of pinion where you have
a young Navajo 8th grader Garry

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Yossi and what he was able to invent
to help out his mother to reduce her

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electricity bill by inventing a water
heater and a gadget that he used to

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heat his home, his trailer and then
for abc television to come out in May

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and

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bill in this a nice, beautiful home
for him and his mother. And that's

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going to get a lot of national
intention. Uh And people are going to view

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that in terms of what this young young
neighbor who a boy was able to

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invent just simply because he was
really dedicated to his mother and

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dedicated to looking at the overall
problem that never a nation faces. And

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so uh I look at these different events
and what Gary Gary as what Gary

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Yossi has done is not going to stop
there because the home that they built

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for him is all green green home uh
there that home is recycling its own

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water self contained, it's recycle and
recycle its own water. And the

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water that they recycle is used to to
irrigate the little grass and and

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other flowers that the family is grown
outside of their home. And then

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they have solar

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solar panel that generates
electricity. They have a wind panel that also

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generates electricity. And as I
understand it from the engineers that help

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designed that facility here at S. U.
The solar panel plus the wind

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generated power uh that will produce
enough to take care of their home

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throughout the year. And there's going
to be excess power. Uh That N. T. U.

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A. Is going to buy from him uh
neighborhood tribal utility authority, the

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organization that provides uh
electrical services to homes on the

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neighborhood nation. And Garrett
Yossi, this 8th grade kid and now A 9th

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Grade High School Student made a
commitment by saying that I would like to

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have all of my excess electricity to
go to my neighbors. Uh my uncle and

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my aunts and my grandma and my
grandpa. And so even at that young age he

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has such a responsibility

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towards his his own relatives in his
own community and whatever he

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invented, he was passing it around to
get the result of what he was able

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to come up with. And when when I see
something like that happened, you

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know that's that's the future of the
neighborhood nation. We don't have

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any indication right now for all we
know is that the Navajo people might

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start demanding that their homes be
built with solar system uh with wind

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powered electric producing machinery
to heat their homes. And so we may

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see that and may not necessarily need
all that much energy that gets

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produced by using the coal. And
because that's controversial in itself

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with all these power plants that we
have on the Neverland nation anyway so

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the invention and the creation of what
curiosity did also to me is

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unlimited. We haven't really seen

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the full recognition in the full
potential that this kid has in terms of

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what he has in mind in terms of
helping than ever people and the way the

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way that we live. And so that only
indicates to me that the neville people

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really have what it takes to survive
what it takes to do good and do well

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and taking care of the other members
of their family. And so I just wanted

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to add these yeah, pieces of
information that I observe on the Navajo and

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it really goes alone the line of self
determination and to to have a

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nation that we can be proud of. We
need more of the kind of activities

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that is fully supported by the natural
parents and never students.

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Yeah.

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Okay, very good.

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Okay, 12:00 turn off again. Let's
talk.