Uh huh. I'm sure left like that
open. I don't want to have Jack Ashley. Don't think over there. We'll
leave that story. Him mom?
Yeah, he hooked that thing on Corey Head. Uh, clarinet
for that electric or automatic bill? What you're talking about first is
that with that electric chair here?
So they got the air somehow out of the brake system. And yeah, they have
that on many cars. You know, they just have just another one of those one
experiment. Just bought one of them and Put it on one end to one car. Uh,
so there was some guy that we're going happy. We had. You've got those
every now and then. Yeah, yeah. Just bring that thing into the
intersection and she says, naturally, people complain about the planes all
over the planet. Yeah. Yes. One fella in particularly. Uh, he wasn't happy
unless he's finding that gold. Ever. You're sexually, he had before, feet
are gone
when he was a nervous, jumpy sort of fella.
Do you have any particular kind of bell signals and little things? Well,
No, the overhead bells on the two men equipment. Mm. Your signals for that
one.
Yeah. One barrel was the start of the next, make the next stop. And
If you want to cancel that, well, you give him two battles
and the order stop right now, you're getting three bells
that may be stopped right now. I mean if you want to back up, you get him
full bells, What happened if you just want him to proceed? Like he let
somebody off. Give two battles to go and then it started, did they run did
the city run any uh any two man crews on those new cars when they're gone
? Oh when we first got on monday and they were on phew man sign ups you
know it's fine and you Uh huh. Well I got it want to run it the other day
we sat around he's supposed to Yellow street help people get normal better
in life long you know I've got one old, I got something here that you
ought to see. Okay Yeah I've got an older
rulebook here that was issued and even I'll have to work.
Yeah
mm
Well now that isn't holding I've got you know some of the more recent.
Mhm.
Yeah now that's some junk in this phone.
Change your bag.
Mhm. My team here forget
but when I went to work like
where terry scheduled a guy that first went to work, maybe he got a let's
get him down but we look at them they all the schedule divided the hour
and you can figure them out you know. Yeah they kept the
uh service about saying no she got it quite a few years if there's a bunch
of work
uh they have the same service all day long. Uh That is uh
Mhm. You start out
uh Well not all be long at first but when you work like springs is the he
needs to grill They have two cars start out early in the morning. And then
the 3rd 1. Yeah. And
his state uncle after the evening Russia
and then it went in there to be shut. Yeah. Then they
they didn't have trips
trippers.
Oh yeah, we had good runs before the trip. Breakfast of champions run the
next election. One thing that, you know. Yeah, I thought I'd go down for
it trip for 2.5 hours. Well, you try to work that in. Who now you've got
into
uh 5.5 hours someplace else. And some of them be you can go out. I had run
that worked about a year and a half one. Oh yeah, that I went out the
horse went four times for An eight Hour Day.
Mhm. All right.
Yeah, I worked on the grill, you know, and I started out on any grouper we
worked on the grill. Yeah, Washington.
That was
very wrong.
Maybe my job. Mhm mm.
I didn't. Did they ever do they start right out with the new fare boxes in
these new cars? Because they came with the new fare boxes. Guys, conductor
must not have had much to do when you ran to men just sit there. Well, oh
no, he didn't, no,
this is really about that. Food back horse cars and all. Yeah, that's what
I mean. That's really
there's a Uh huh push car scene, battery
and uh
in the cable,
anything this set of transfer could have been a streetcar type. Right well
they were
for the I mean that would have been from the time when they were probably
streetcars. These probably weren't I don't know they're never say the
colors the colors fade the year I guess the of course the color
designating line. All right.
When mhm. When you went up did you ever Uh huh. On the Grand Avenue On
What did they do? They ran the 40 series cars even after that new cars up.
Yeah. Yeah
they had to run through those out there and then they Fix that one use
thank you 50 to close that in use down Hendler at
even after they had the new car. Yeah She had 18 new cars when they you
have used on elder so we can get around it started out they put Uh six
cars on Washington Street had an eight minute headways
and it is june brill.
They put four each on them and they and 12 minutes
and we can work. I had two cars and 15 minutes. Okay they Grand Avenue two
cars in your point of view 40 minutes round trip. Don't want to.
Did they have a they have a sighting or something out of the fairgrounds.
Yes they had you went into the ground across the down road And I don't
have any tracks that have very cool five tracks way down there definitely
and we did it they could put a lot of cars in there. No I don't know there
to have two or three D. S. A. Where was the dinner was that where was that
in relation buildings that are out there? Well it was just
West Just West 19.
Yeah what right alongside
rescue you just west in that building. Yeah and that it is. Uh Well here
you guys
yeah grand Avenue find out here there's not changed but you just went on
across the you do this grounds okay that was all penned off see and they
finally they when they got these other hard go ahead. Uh huh. Put a
turnstile there and there bear box They could they could use that no one
they just tell you get in that pan and all they have to do. Uh Yeah it
would be fair to be paid
the that you got all the territorial spare boxes and run into the part of
the other. No no I got used to where the let's see that you got ready to
leave the when you hung that stuff in the car fare box was like here and
then you hung the changer
and so you hung something around back forward and control it. Yeah saying
yeah reverse reverse cave. Yeah well you did just take your change and
throw it over your shoulder and they still winning get the fare box like
that and walk back there and and then set the bear box down thank you the
yeah of course you carried your tools in your hand, you have your carry
the reverse and or control handle carry that in your left hand and uh you
put those on there and you got where you yeah you could so all those
things on earth but as the never miss anything you know and because that I
learned that uh it just it takes so many seconds to make a minute and then
you know I lose any second and I figured out every way under the sun and I
put the same second. Yeah so in like that way. Mhm. You did everything.
Uh huh. We had to had to be coordinated all the way through on that and
you have to be use a certain rhythm now there's something else. Uh huh
If you want to get one of those things going damn fast
bye you have had that rhythm with you know uh and
well I can't explain we have a lot of things going. Yeah
fellow it's pretty hard to keep getting keyed up. Would you had to put out
all you only could too to make it that's it. I found out that you if you
relax and just wants to everything and well that thing up just like you
should be around the bed you know and you make your stop if you make it
stop
the smoke is down your passengers soon be they trust mm and they would be
able to door ready to get out because you would handle the equipment rough
in their seat. Yeah. And yeah then a lot of them would you made a rough
stuff if he you too much here at once. Uh, that just penned his own
forward four. And the main thing the things that calendar in the studio be
ready to get that door open this value as fast as possible. Get closed and
gone. But that's impossible and just mr Hughes with the door, it's just
stepped off.
Uh huh.
I do do not miss any, there any slips as you went along and have
everything ready prepared ahead of time. You know, you can still they
still run into those kind of streetcars in new Orleans. Yeah, the old, the
old thing. Well that there was at that time they were quite a sensation
when they were first built and had them all other times. Yeah, can't do it.
Well, some pleasure. They called him the big Bernie's. Yeah, the birdie
and the I r why? He made a single truck made a little things right and
there
they could 34 guys get on the back handle on those things can jump down
their throat thing off track.
He uh there's a little museum, the trolley California south of the other
side hurting.
Go to san Diego place called paris. Yeah, I belong to it. Things for money
every year. They have about I only got a circular track. There must be
half miles ago.
Another another maybe 3/4 of a mile straight track and they've got cars of
all time variety. Most of the various states district parent is whether
kind of no thinking your carbine but they have a burning car and operates
Yeah car for you are you got a lot of stuff to loss and
but they operate on saturday or sunday.
Yeah the first those old there cracker box is going to be handed hand
brake. Yeah, if they hadn't when I would work
and those things were filled with san Diego
okay san Diego railway something. Well they were originally had been uh
huh. Have a seat turned out
and they didn't open. There is the head idea and want to turn women close.
Mhm I don't know where they got over 33 and number one they were straight
ones
North end secondhand someplace kind of weird. I guess the only thing I was
told that feeling in these cars and the german company in the car 40 40
for because the records tight when they first found him, they records
going to great lengths to how they're supposed to operate them and what
they're not supposed to do and what they're supposed to do, what kind of
special character close to giving those you know.
Mhm A little bit.
They have no him building down there that they kept all kinds of stuff.
Uh huh Building a 32 WP eight gang organ out there women to sell about the
stuff that they rainy day there wasn't half of them was sitting around you
know
Yeah with rain and they most of those in there and they got to look into
some of the little record that Mitchell written about different ones. This
fellow's name was the plenty of blood is something else and eating it work
for a different companies in communities in camp. And one of them talking
down
this fella took everything with the car. He did bring the car back and I
didn't know stuff like that democrats and got some conductor records where
it talks about Going back. There's a book that goes from about 1911 2
against 1914 been in one that's about 1920 and 24 they're about and he's
got the guy's name. Okay this month. Okay. It was an accident during some
kind of incident. You know will hold it now. The great longhand about this
courtesy one. I'm remembering the top leg or some kind of some kind
nonsense like that.
Think of all these pictures that I got. That one's about. My favorite.
That's okay. Yeah,
it used to like this. Yeah, They will be fair and I used to work that line
and you worked that night we signed up for two and many times we if that's
we always able to hit that switch without stopping
and you know, just just like that past few years and never stop. We hate
the we ain't to go there when I'm sitting waiting on you wait on, well the
downtown that was fast. The other hand was easy to have oh
2, 4 minutes to sit out on the end if you want to kill time, you know, and
the fella downtown he needs to get out of there. You better sell them,
hasn't any time at all. Yeah, actually get load it is time to go. Were
those the doors on the side behind, behind where the motorman sat? They,
when I near as I can remember, they only used them on the mental world
line. The one that opened on the wrong side. Did they all those cars
originally where they all set up to use that. They had those were hooked
up in the back. You use that for discharging facts. But then every day you
get the mirrors to win with him or anything of that sort and so they uh
they have little handles. Well that's so long and you put that on a yeah,
that was
what that thing is located just up there being an area route anyway.
Uh, you could open that back door. I mean let them out, you know from the
start in front of you
never use it a they wouldn't let you we use them sometimes begin with when
they something guy would be careless and leave the handle on the other
side, leave it when you king James and someone could come along and play
with it you know. Well you know what the when they went on of course and
actually the brakes went on and they opened the door and that. Uh huh. So
they they but now they were well the superintendent. Yeah T. E. New cover
A. He I understand was been a country banker and as tight as bark on a
tree. He I didn't like spending time for anything And whatever they get 5
to achieve as possible.
He never could understand that you had to spend money to get and he didn't
like it because you had seats and the operator to sit down and doesn't
understand that it should be standing up so they'd be alert to sit down
and get who wouldn't be alert and that's an old school way back there.
What time they had there? Uh huh. We had those old cars had go to our
lives and who's having trouble with the night inspector. That thing
finally he got disgusted. So he just
one car one night and the headlight wouldn't work well just going just
take it in been mega work. He says there's four brand new ones down there.
He won't put them out. Could have written up and written it up so we
report we sent that car. And so and so what do you think about those two
names on wages for doing nothing. See Yeah. Uh that Bernie met so and he
finally put those headlights out uhh things like that.
No, there was a good old man with another thing that they never did. Uh If
you if you they accused you of something
and that you didn't do you never gotten apologize apology from.
Yeah. And they seem to think that you should be so grateful for the
opportunity of working for if you do anything. In fact in that old room
book I think I think it's in this there's a tremendous in that other you
look there place in there, you're supposed to report anything that you see
any other a man doing you know that you're supposed to be a stool pigeon
along with it have this thing here uh Mhm. Three of the rules in here.
They make me laugh. Well times of course that's kind of harsh. Yeah. Yeah.
Well yeah
they
Organized in 19 well sometimes longer and they had a little and they went
out on strike 1913,
Well after that why? Uh huh. Hey bring her up. But they had more guys
knocking down uh when I went to work, whether it was Sarah Levin,
everybody knew they knocked down and they had that old Omer system and
what they do, you just favoring that and of course you can be he need to
each track is registered. So you know how much knocked down and turn in
because you Yeah they fired you if they caught you keep tracking
registered.
I remember running up on the trips. You know. Mhm.
So I thought that was funny but I got this I went to work you know
everybody got a letter just going to work telling you that uh you keep
track of the register be dismissed and easily. Yeah and keeping track of
it. So
then I figured out what big but before I just want to go I have never
never never no I never talked about that wasn't my money and I had no
business with you. And and their body
Changing one guy he gets get hand and he they wrote to me right after well
said I'm
they inform you there. They keep telling between my services if they think
they can get along without me. Yeah they're very nice about So they thank
you for bringing this car back. Okay.
Okay. Yeah. Well how many times you can before here's an old window. I'll
take. Yeah. Oh that's that's the old one. Well the ones we were just about
the same thing. These are 1913 trains. Yeah. No. Yeah you had a punch
destination on those things. And the movement. They think that's what they
usually their wives and employees going ahead of a wife on them and they
pretty wide they say that's what they had no one to work knowing that seat.
Well there's always this is up here. This was a temporary for this but
this this one like look here. They got deep hole on. Yeah. And
the part that's kind of what I want to work with for me the modify the
movement
building some things out of paper when he got to the street editorial
bottom then they ran a picture here. It was kind of funny because that's
not the speaker. That was everything
double doors back.
Yeah.
But I guess it was hard to take pictures. Are they getting released to a
guy? They got a picture. He didn't know what I didn't know what you want.
Study the specifications on the new card talks about their trucks and
brakes and seat.
No, suggested this. It's all in front. Here's a newspaper picture. I'm
going to get total newspaper and get the original before that car was high
and dry when they lowered the railroad track.
Come on on the Arab street got stuck on the west end. No, went down to the
west end of the torn up tracks because the longer that couldn't have been
well, they just, they probably relate them, you know, across the track.
That's what we do that when they rebuild the track we have to do that a
lot. There was just some old street scenes of one sort or another in the
1920s.
Nothing like 19 data. No. Mhm. Best food cart track there and let's see it
says I'm back. Mhm 11th Street in Washington. Mhm. Thanks for staying in.
Mm hmm. C. one and 2 of them. Thank you Prince on east Washington. To U. C.
Is one here of Glendale here. The state park on the loop. Came around
here looking when jefferson from the web.
My mom would say
True. This is Grand Avenue looking. Thank you. Can. Yeah. And this is kind
of interesting. This was out on piece. Let's heart the loop. This supposed
this picture looking south. There was a apparently the loop goes around
like this and then there was a track that went on down to the south of
their joint went down the railroad what they were used that before they
use it at all. So they used this back and forth. Hi my name brought to his
cars. You know they they brought him off. Did they have a switch that went
on to the railroad track down at the track? I guess so now they tell me
that when they have the old grand A line at they used to pull refrigerator
cars. Yeah. Up to some of those.
Mhm
sheds little sheds like that. They put him up there and it's a very
unloaded and then Uh huh we put him up there. I don't want to what old
carnies
do that.
Yeah. You pull them up to the Orangewood district. Yeah I've been there
for letters and citrus and like that and then they blow them up and care
new girl put them back down. They put him on a sighting somewhere. They
had sightings. Yeah. No there was one place they called stuff station. I
don't know what that was. Yeah,
it was more than that for months. There was one at Orangewood where they
passed right on the other side of Central Avenue. Well I could never
figure out where sites stout exciting was That's more off towards Glendale
and yes. Sam hard picked area because he and whether that land but whether
there was any you know, so they actually did they do some of this while
you were still working for? You know? No. When did they, when did they
tear up this thing going down to the southern pacific track. I don't know
why they told that
every now and then while in the it be used for something.
Yeah.
When did they get rid of balloons and down the east of Funny. Well that's
what everybody wants. Thank you today.
I don't know what their idea was. I guess he figured that the white much
business down there its length getting pretty glad to and when I first
went to work
there won't be many colored people around.
Mm hmm.
Okay.
That's it. Sorry
what
with the duty there was too little stores down one of the changes around
having
thank you for that.
But finding out of it
doubt.
Well they didn't have anything. They're just a part and the little fools
still there with upon and it drained at about the time I went to work
career but through the alligators there they scatter out there mm an
alligator from the front. Yeah, absolutely,
but it's been the first swimming pool really? Uh huh. I heard fellas tell
about when the it worked out there all this years and years for my time
and they a fellow would sign around that for the time maybe be working on
cars and then David be part of kind of pumping down there kid part mhm. We
had pumping water for the swimming pool
and he said they'd like to do that don't they? If you got down there was
that there's people picnic, have several times. It was the only party in
town and yeah to the big invite your to have lunch with him and instead he
was it was pumping okay. Uh huh. I think it was this kind of you know I
kind of wondered about the loop down there because there was always you
know on just where the east end on Washington street line went to single
track, you know where it was a single track on the wrong side of the
street there for the last block. Well it went from 15th Street 17 well
right here on 15th because a Chinese grocery store. Yeah and lead you
right and in the concrete there is a track turnout heading off for that
loop which is in the same kind of concrete that they concrete everything
else and when they rebuilt the line and I always I could never figure out
why they left that little stub there. If they tore it up when they rebuild
it why would they leave that little switch and that stuff going on in this
drink? Didn't make any kind of sense headed down 15th ST. Yeah. Yeah I
remember that but I don't know he was just stop there. It never connected
with the other. We're just too stubborn. Yes I do have never seen that.
You can still see it there right now. It's one of the few things it's
still uncovered. Mhm. The what when the what did they do when they got to
the when they still had the Hollywood line for a while after they rebuilt
the rest of it. Didn't
I don't want to remember. Yeah. Indeed I guess they pull that off. Wait
What did you do? What would you do? You just run down to where you were
supposed to stop? The 16th Street and then stop. We're not 16. Oh yeah
after they cut it out. Yeah they seem to line the tracks. Are the tracks
went back. There weren't any other tracks. Oh no well let's see wait a
minute here. No no they had a quick death Hollywood down here because they
never did bring the tracks on that they had when they rebuild them they
have to it down. Yeah
rated.
You know a bunch of politicians. I've got no business operating.
Mhm. Anything like that. But you see what happened to that The property is
worth millions and millions of dollars now that we've got for $26,000, I
think it's less. Uhh They took all everything they wanted from it and give
no credit, nothing in return. In other words, they just bled to death. You
never said anything. These politicians with uhh get up there and have
their rump sessions. You know, they I mean they're closed session before
they went into yeah. Oh, meeting and they will decide what he's gonna do
and if people wasn't hollering, if you love me, that's all right, dude
that you're not complaining. Well, uh Well, like one time uh days there
was 167 lb maybe on the papers. There's a lot of money. All right. That
somebody uh what it disappeared anyway, they had uh short that much and
they had to get it someplace. Well, We were supposed to have 10 new
busters,
so there's worth waiting.
And the fellow that delivered the examples just do about these busses and
of course he he was a great guy, you know? So yes, he patted him on the
back, like everything he was behaving himself secure. But now just things
like that that went on all the time. And when they when they rebuilt that
system, the thais they put in were pine tie, they were not treated and
that is where the, where they put in pine pass most of it was, I mean a
lot of it that down to town and up 3rd Street to McDowell Road and uh huh
Well Washington is all company. Yeah and that was Oh they excavated about
24" of being something like that. And then and I put,
I would put the crushed rock at the bottom where they went a, I didn't
sell him cut crushed rock was part of it crushed rock and then silk and
then more restaurants and Stephen tied and then the
um Williams rails were welded and then there's about okay, somebody said
my Angel Parkfield. Yeah. And they use that there has a new process here,
the hunt process is called, they spray the top and sure. So previous to
that time and paving while they took, I think 21 days secure statement,
they did
uh, put dirt, make pans borders, you know, sections until that's full of
water. It's still full of water for. I don't know how long they take it
out and gradually hey
Remove it after 21 days when they start using, I don't know how long were
you people are saying all this can't do that. You can't do it. Everyone
that tell you some of the hardest. Yeah. Matter of fact, if you dig it up
right now you could probably run trolley cars on it again. Well they
claimed when they got through with it, after you finished it by uh there
was awesome transit magazine had pictures of that. What was the
advertising process? Yeah. And it said that it was it will stand will
cambodians. Right? It was from how about how they'll picture? Doesn't they
had all kinds of little slogans. I remember in the windows of those cars.
Remember one of them was favored yourself by a street car. And they had
one that was right a mile and smiled a while. I can't remember the rest of
you remember any of them? No, no, no. There's one with Reid and relax and
ride a mile and smile a while, favor yourself go by streetcar
and they were a green background and kind of gold gold riding gold letters
that they were wrong. A part of the operator's window, sadly they had the
first when you were just plain glass, you know. Well that some men uh but
please therefore the side that might have been all right back east enough.
Yeah, correct, ain't it? Mhm. Just put in slip this on. That's really you
okay if you want to take these, will you tell you what I'd like I say what
I'd like to do. I'd like to be able to make some copies of those pictures
of those streetcars. Well, I think I want it back. I would take a lot for
to this predictor of this book. Has this thing here in the spirit passed
down values? Well no I mean like it would probably take me about a week or
maybe two weeks to get those pictures what they do they they have to take
a picture if you don't you don't have a negative you take it to the shop
and they take a picture of the picture. You don't have to
but if you take the ones in the big book.
Mhm. I tried taking some pictures but I didn't I did this yeah, Last seven
copies with old family pictures. Is that I do it outside and
in these good. Mhm. Hopefully
there's a couple of rounds, bring it up and see. That's great. Mhm.
Is Yeah. You know what? I could go back there and I can tell you whoever
won these pictures were. I couldn't tell you here. Uh huh. You know how
that goes. Yeah. Yeah. Uh huh This is your change and your sacks and Yeah.
Hi. Yeah just the one that you had all the time. No, I had That's the 2nd
1. And yeah, 1st 1 I had was just a triangle and yeah. Hey
anyway it was getting kind of rested as in there one day in a group. Very
hot as well. Your name, that thing's too much you get if you think you're
doing even having much Broke that thing there. I've got that in 1929. Yeah.
Mhm. The I have a signed by Out of I think it was 5:14. the child born
out of the junkyard. Sorry john I got a fine body. Yeah. Don't work in a
building a
presented control. The words I've got some air brake handles, control, not
the control of the pop culture. Okay. Control the handle and the key.
Yeah.
Conductor bandages and the old ones are coming around to your penis.
What we do that money with his punches? Touchpad yourself. You still put
in a little still put it in the sack there. See it? I read something about
they had a seat down someplace and we put the money in the sack and tossed
it down the shooters. Yeah. Night night. Yeah.
You know when I went to work there, they had vote there. That reminds you
in and that's all it was just a shoot that went down in there, Right?
That's what I was. There was not a fellow wanted, you can stole that out
there so easy. And once the one on one of the second money, the spirit of
the old man Mitchell. He didn't all, it's impossible to get anything out
of there. Well, they just dropped down to the floor. You can put a fish
hook down there and picked it up. That's kind of how I, what I thought
about it read about it doesn't take much. They had an iron poker thing
that you make sure make sure,
yeah. Don't have to get out of here. And really?
So what I'd like to, I'd like to borrow these pictures for a couple weeks.
Yeah. I'll just to have a reproduce
well and go with rosemary
because they are, they are hard to come by. You don't have to know anybody
else has any.
There are very few pictures around, around the country, around the country.
There's a lot of people see that. You see that picture, that bill. Yeah.
Well that's a friend of mine has and
crashing engine.
I mean,
I've got some pictures here. Yeah. Mm
Were you there?
Very bad man. Yes, they are.
He's got one there.
Depression and you've got that same. Okay. Speaking area. Perfect.
Get in the backyard. Hey.
Yes. Everything shine. They're usually right. Um, did you work it very
often? They're underground. Oh, he, they,
I had a, that's like Sarah, he took it up to that and they give
demonstrations like they, the fresh brain, you know? Yeah. Like that. This
is a
product planning. Something like that's a big one. That's a lot of
horsepower in those days materially and uh huh. Well,
mhm They were big horses, you know what I mean, yep,
that's really my power. These, you have to have a truck set there
now. What I'll do is I'll bring these back in a couple of weeks because it
takes about a week to make them up and
I'll get some of the ones that look better and look pretty good while I'll
get you, I'll blow up something like that in the book. Yeah. You're right.
Did you want to? Yeah. I'd like I'd like to you know, I'd really like to
look at that. I'd like to very carefully. I'd like to have had several
that stuff. The more books there but I didn't want to be a hog uh after
sitting in one time. Oh fellas in him. Yeah.