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 mm if there was a video, that's something else that you don't find

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anything out about particularly other
than if there was one and I went to

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the fairground, I can remember, you
know the track and,

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and they even, they even left a little
bit of the overhead wires like

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about a half a block or so up there
for a long time. I just believe that

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could turn around or something. You
know, we went on the side on

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the background line, you know,
frequently the road goes out there, we

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didn't get on the side of the tracks,
we went on the side of him uh, side

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of the street part we might say
sidewalk gotta be, we wanna on there all

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the way out to the country. You bet
there with, yeah, we had a big switch

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in there because bringing brothers and
Barnum and bailey is used to have

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the surfaces right north of Roosevelt
and it's a big vacancy in there and

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they used to have it in there when
there was awful nice because we could

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bring in load up, a lot of reasons use
the switch you're not used to see

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and, And we used to maybe take four
cars down there and standing, we had a

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big old car 33 was it all about 165
people automatically going on. It was

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an old goose neck hendrick. The only
goose. Next one we have uh

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Then we have the 4th reason
responsible years with the company. So when

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you get question that 33 was the only
one that had, we used it on the

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grill line after that given time when
they get used on sometimes you take

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it off the grill and when
circumstances like that because I remember old

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man told me one time we used to put me
on the backhand And doctor and he

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said get the bears but get him rang up
and not get the bears could get

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that many people trying to crawl
through and he couldn't always get over

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there to ring them up, they say. And
he watched, I guess I hadn't probably

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, he said get the pears in there, not
the time to get on the after and $15.

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I had rang up nothing like that. I had
a sick wife and three kids, two

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boys and a girl. I always told my
Children I want with this painting, a

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lot of wages. I'm gonna turn you into
them with

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that prepared the proper way to do it.
That's why it's not so uncommon

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that on the fairgrounds, what
buildings out where the switch it goes the

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belt and then went up burning What's
fair and I write up all the hot. I

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just listen they're going to uh

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yeah.

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And then we got up and down. What did
you have a turn right into? Just a

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little bit angle, right after the
right out this this question where that

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long building is

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what

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I have. We went riding in just as
close to that fence on that side coming

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right up moving I think for about five
cars and because on this side of

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the building, yeah, I think it was
soon for us to get in there now. Maybe

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the defense has been set over since
then. Maybe it was. Why do you

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remember what's on the other side?

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So where does all the county? I think
it's saying well with you, that's

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why mr you know, I think that will see
you. They tell me they think that's

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in new york mm old. That's remarkable.
That's in slavery time. It is

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Saturday January 4, 1800 boys in there
about war. Well inside the base

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Washington dies is just about that
time. Mhm. He's had that in between

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care. It's so dry. You gotta while I
don't need more 100 pressure, huh?

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Yeah. Oh yeah. And the death of
General Water station.

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I went I went to Mount vernon last
night and that was really an incredible

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thing. It's just beautiful. Just you
By running out of Peyton.

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Well, my memory isn't as good as it
should be. And I'm trying to find out

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all these questions. So then, you
know, we had the Hollywood. The line

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through here, that's what I was going
to ask you about. That went from 17

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and he's forced me right where the
other one is welcome. We went around

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the room by Worsley right now,
Jefferson And we made there to block groups

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from 15 to 17 on these forces for
several years. Uh the last few years

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like they took out the loop and just
stopped at 16 just for your costs

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after the done away with the Hollywood
park. When did they get away with

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the Hollywood? You know, I can't
remember the exact date but they run up.

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Did you ever run a new carpet down?
Not only just for uh I think they had

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around by the surface out on the 22nd
or something's out there or

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something like that one. And that's
when we're keeping these cars and we

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hadn't switched everything. We had the
ground in the park. I was stopping

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point. It's getting that time. We had
a rescue and run down western

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divorcement part. That was the only
one we hadn't really emotional lines

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the mind or not. So mm So there's the
last one. They had a four wheel car

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on that to see They want to put just
to make a small street car out of it

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and had to lift two cups in front and
uh go in the back and bobs along.

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Because you never already went out in
the field to stay beside him by

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$2600. 24th is pay you after 24
students. And we went out into center

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field. A lot of people worked over the
asylum and get off and walk a good

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path over to the state of side. My my
grand grandparents just call out the

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asylum road. They didn't call it in
Hollywood. No, no. Yeah, I guess it

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could have called, although I know
that it was called the Hollywood.

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So there used to be an old fella out
there that they thought was created

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and everything. But the boys getting
you have sold your shoes for him, you

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take him over there and have stolen
and then bring back in charge of 50

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cents you say for him to do a good
job, things like that, That gives him a

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little money, used to ride up down
everything and free go income when

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everyone does it. So that when
Hollywood went to 26, just about where 26

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would be, there was no street out of
anything like that.

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But there used to be an irrigating
water on the side and maybe in the

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summertime. And no super boys if they
get ahold some watermelon because

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I'm gonna take them out and they put
them in this running water in the

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weeds and stuff like that. Then the
grand time out there in the evening

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when we put it in there in the
morning, that putting in two hours, an hour

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and a half in the morning, an hour and
a half afternoon like that. And

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then maybe a couple hours evening like
that for about seven o'clock. And

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then they brought that car into points
and I'm sure you've got it, they

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just got a four, They want to get this
mask from here to the other one

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what we call the one and just to
change the copy around and stick it on

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the other elected with the other car.
They would be regulated, but we

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didn't go all the way down there. No,
no, we just come to seven ft and get

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to work in terms of the patches in the
Yeah, when they went around the

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loop this way, when we run out there
and stop offers them changes probably

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after the backup to the opposite
tracked all the way out there a lot of

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times the service's time and get so
much dirt on the track. We couldn't

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hardly get power enough ground so we
couldn't have to get off again. I

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said sometimes one time I had to go
get a hole in the yard and people

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attract whether that would give me
traction to get some are starting to

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get a bad picture but that laurel in
there that when you're talking about

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I understand.

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No, that shows the double cups here.
Mhm

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But that's what we're about and you
know that this showed us the double

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truck. So they wait at it. It just had
two wheels here in studios carriers

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and just a short call it in the past.
Just little better than happy

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thinking long ago something discharge
room, You did that without a one man

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operation. Yes, we never took it very
much money. Did that run very often.

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You know like in the morning we'd run
from 630 to eight years something

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like that hour and a half and then you
and I think went out of having 30

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number 1 30 or something like that

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wouldn't run again until 4 30 to 7
o'clock and things like that. I think

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that close to eight or nine hour run
the short run and we all tried to

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have that runs almost like getting a
couple of hours extra time, somebody

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else you know, so we make the bill
there that because otherwise we

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wouldn't they have plenty extra men
while they put somebody out on that.

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Mhm Remember when they took the line
off? No I can't

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I can't remember where they took it
off before they get to the other cars.

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 You know what you did with the NGO.

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Did they ever use green cars on this?
Everything? Not only for an

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emergency? Uh huh uh para ground
breaking and having a big doings out

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there. I'm not going to use. Yeah, I
know they you haven't had two men on

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men

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what they do.

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I love you. So seven things that he
said

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the use of when they were running up
with the use of the totally open

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their cars on there even after they
had the new cars on the regular deal

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or oh no we used to kick the new cars
on the main lines. I came into

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school forcing line most of the city.
But as much as the card number you

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with because there I'm the paragraph
my family life and he said people in

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my industry I want to believe. Well
that was uh well I thought there was

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shape is a Oh hand brake comes. You
know some of them have been

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convertible a little bit differently.
I don't obviously with 40, You know

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the 40s there was a big heavy car. I
think they sold them to a place in

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California. But I about the time they
got the big new cars because they

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didn't like them so much at the gate.
You look at it.

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Old Sam.

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There's any information that I have.

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No, I don't think jo jo jo didn't
start I started just started long after

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I get Yeah, but you got a lot to do in
the book work. Yeah. Sam Hodges

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don't go around. Yeah. There's uh him
and his uh his brother's battle

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together there on Wall Street Just
North Indian School about two blocks

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and a little bit. I can't tell you the
number of it. But I know where they

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have a telephone that up now but
they're laughing up there. He has a

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brother Albert worked there for a
short time. Sam who worked the power and

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after any of us, you said before you
ran out of power out on the wood line.

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 Is that a common thing or Oh well

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it could be like one time on Halloween
night they sent me out there and

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they sent him home with me and they
put some rocks by the whole of the

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sides of her heels. And so whenever we
got almost a decade curve trump

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trucks on their car hit those rocks
and just rocked us off the rail. Yeah

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, we stole them well in the morning.
They will shut the power off on that

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unless somebody told me to keep it on.
You see, before he was further get

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their phone coffin, why they keep the
power on the end zone you want. But

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something like that, you know, as uh,
the power used to be a week off a

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week. So you could, you could stick it
on nine partnership and the

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Steelers just moved. We didn't have
what started to get along out there

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one time going out every year, I was
awful slow. I was in government and

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welcome back east and going out there
and I was office. So he's got a

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thing that a passion is all off. It's
a little bit, Hey, we're going out

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there. Someone's got a mule in right
away and he was standing right up

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alongside and they streetcar line a
where I spoke, he had his feet, but

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you stand up, there wasn't on the
track. I swam number breaks because

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everybody, you when I got him. So then
I shoved right back on and went on

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up the line. Well when we got through
the passes, I don't know what we

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just after David curtain and or not,
but this one was named Shorty baker.

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We called him Shorty baker, which is
bakers on me. And when he got out

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there, Shorty said, I got you standing
at the back and he says, let me

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take the front end. He said, federal
game some of this time going in. So I

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said, all right. But I said, it's this
ruse, you know, change. And it was

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really more like, so I got in the back
and he was just over in europe.

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It's downgrade issue on Wall Street.
And he was just opened up for even

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going to be pretty soon. I have to
think like this for the wheel. And I

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thought, well, he's getting on that
track. We are hitting the lady, he's

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going to that old handbag. You had the
old hand brakes on the train. And I

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started to the car just as I did, he
slammed on the brakes and I hear

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something left side street car. Okay,
geez

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31 and I said, sure I'd say, what's up
new guy? I've got to say, But I

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guess that's just what I thought. He
said. I've seen his head sticking out.

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This. What I just said, I guess I
turned her out.

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He got down there and a little
increase, uh, center, uh, streak. I have

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got to have this on. We found this on
the other side of the street car uh

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the repairs stuff where there's a
little star struck out. This would be a

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piece of moment or something. You
don't like to look beyond the fact that

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we found Harry.

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I've got somebody put him there and I
didn't say nothing about I'm afraid

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that you know they have anything to
worry about. But that was a funny

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thing. I did another time I was I was
murdering and I crossed the indian

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school road and I still haven't on uh
speaking up pretty fast and bob

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Boris. My conductor and old bob said
to me, he said He looked up and seen

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the curve. There's a square here,
square or curved. Uh well we turned on a

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dime on Bobby away from me to tell me
he recently had 11 pulled a train on

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the floor, he supported on that
quarter. But we have to run.

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I was going fast. One thing about
hitting that curve, you know, I bet we'd

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be jumping jacks, he pulled that lever
down about 30 ft before we got

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started. We spent around the corner
right, and they didn't do the brakes

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and the wheels because that's how you
know about black heels on the

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company and all the way down. Yeah, we
went back up to him and then we

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pick up on this but you don't get the
school. I know we picked them off

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with the indians to a double track it
and you're single it was double

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tracked mostly. Mhm Yeah, there's a
couple of blocks away on the just for

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a couple of bucks. They're lined up a
curtain or something like that. He

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purchased between heard you when you
put on your sunday suit man. And I

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think we should remember a single
track player in this kind of you know

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the minister of attracting and
engaging and that was sort of in the middle

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of the road on the side. Well just you
know, there's a trigger on this

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side, but there was nothing on the
other side because I know when you get

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up, well all the way up all the way
through there. There was no room on

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the other side on the east side. Yeah,
there's a lot of these because I

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know where this, when you judge 53rd
Carol friends have gone 2nd street

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and then they just arrived in the car
media. Uh my father told me one time

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and he, we have more magical. He was.
And recycle he said how much to get

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the story. He said he would point out
to visit some girlfriend. I was one

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strike only had a white scar and he
went to his home outside along the

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winding through a line of his money.
He said he went up to cross over

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apparently cropped over the, you know
when and where they intersect the

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streets were hand and saying that went
out and he said he had, he had

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white white trousers and a white shirt
and a white spot and it was all

00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:50.726
mine. I

00:18:50.759 --> 00:18:55.276
don't forget that story because yeah,
that was pretty, that was really out

00:18:55.309 --> 00:19:01.086
in the country. Yeah, I said it was
filed. This messenger shot down after

00:19:01.119 --> 00:19:03.306
he crossed.

00:19:03.339 --> 00:19:09.986
He's really concentrating. Is this
your car? There's Alvarado in there and

00:19:10.019 --> 00:19:14.476
then Where there that was banned in
the truck? What was that stretch that

00:19:14.509 --> 00:19:20.836
they had had 11 block in their leading
country? How in the world? Why did

00:19:20.869 --> 00:19:27.357
they do that? I believe that was from
palm li amount of this. I think the

00:19:27.390 --> 00:19:33.657
president's must have some pretty rich
rich people that was all by Yeah,

00:19:33.690 --> 00:19:38.046
that's all there was just beyond that
where there was dirt all the way

00:19:38.079 --> 00:19:40.806
down to the

00:19:40.839 --> 00:19:46.177
so I can tell her my grandfather used
to take me erupted on saturday. We

00:19:46.210 --> 00:19:51.746
will probably ride and we rode all the
lines And that was a funny one

00:19:51.779 --> 00:19:57.836
because that was kind about yes, I was
treated about three miles South

00:19:57.869 --> 00:20:04.607
Korea. Now my office is right there in
the first baby building with the or

00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:10.117
is it Karen? I know I'm not saying
anybody a real drive, you know. Yeah,

00:20:10.150 --> 00:20:13.236
right across here from Goldwater's and
parque central and then scrape off

00:20:13.269 --> 00:20:18.296
the buildings and everything and that
that was out in the culture. I'm not

00:20:18.329 --> 00:20:22.387
true that things have improved for the
better really.

00:20:22.420 --> 00:20:24.516
Everything.

00:20:24.549 --> 00:20:30.347
Yeah. This old place right here But
you're on a kind of what specifically

00:20:30.380 --> 00:20:36.246
mean streets but actually attacking me
for business hearing that still

00:20:36.279 --> 00:20:40.347
residents, You can't do anything about
it. Just the last couple of years

00:20:40.380 --> 00:20:47.127
since you hold the last four or five.
Well I'm trying to pass to get in

00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:52.667
here 20 years. Is what's he doing
right here? Well that's pretty funny.

00:20:52.700 --> 00:20:57.637
You never actually ran over one day.
Always just steps on this breaking in

00:20:57.670 --> 00:21:03.097
was off. But they were they running it
in Glendale sometimes. Uh oh no,

00:21:03.130 --> 00:21:07.717
they had regular schedule check before
that day, that schedule an

00:21:07.750 --> 00:21:11.766
uncertain time Because, and then other
times when he was part of the, yeah

00:21:11.799 --> 00:21:17.407
, coming out of the 10:00, the nitrous
on like that. I don't know whether

00:21:17.440 --> 00:21:22.707
it, I never didn't get out in time
after that.

00:21:22.740 --> 00:21:26.486
No, I never did that get out. I worked
at 10 o'clock in the travel

00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:30.957
hardships. Maybe I'd have another run
town where I get off eight or nine

00:21:30.990 --> 00:21:37.117
or 33 cents our, you know, uh 47. I
have to take in putting all the time.

00:21:37.150 --> 00:21:44.336
I could, you know, and one time I
worked from the first day of Julia. No,

00:21:44.369 --> 00:21:51.526
I had 15 days of working years
straight Sundays knowledge and trying to

00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:57.207
get in, They go, there's lied to me.

00:21:57.240 --> 00:22:01.937
We have something up the economy
could, what did they, what did they do

00:22:01.970 --> 00:22:04.617
when we first went to work there? What
kind of equipment that they have?

00:22:04.650 --> 00:22:10.367
They just had. But they had a whole
bunch of cards about san Diego. That

00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:15.086
changed them over there. First thing
when they got in san Diego, the seats

00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:21.306
turned out two or three seats and
people used to settle. I guess it's uh

00:22:21.339 --> 00:22:26.086
san Diego, you see there was over
there for the Expositions or something

00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:29.486
and the seats turned out of step with
the feet out, you know, there was

00:22:29.519 --> 00:22:33.367
nothing over and tell me I didn't see
anyone there. But they said they

00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:38.736
just reverse them over and put them
inside and made it a streetcar out.

00:22:38.769 --> 00:22:43.607
The center of it was closed in. But
the front end's wasn't closed in on it.

00:22:43.640 --> 00:22:47.157
Just the front end of the street car
and their parents at the end of the

00:22:47.190 --> 00:22:51.496
sides on the people place sitting in
there, they faced one another inside

00:22:51.529 --> 00:22:56.147
the world sideways, sideways. But when
they got their cars, they claimed

00:22:56.180 --> 00:23:01.566
that there was reversed, set with
their feet out all the time. Did you

00:23:01.599 --> 00:23:06.796
drive it? You know, I don't uh ones
after they reversed them. I never did

00:23:06.829 --> 00:23:12.677
. I didn't get there in time to see
they over when they first got the air

00:23:12.710 --> 00:23:17.516
brakes on those. No, no, that's just
handbrake the johnson bar. There we

00:23:17.549 --> 00:23:23.786
go back please. Well, you'd have to
release that time too if they didn't

00:23:23.819 --> 00:23:28.967
we'd stop jerking because we have to
learn they look awful outward, But

00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:32.907
they don't even work. All right, Every
time gives any trouble when they

00:23:32.940 --> 00:23:38.437
get lead to something like that. He
didn't have no Sanders and Jack when

00:23:38.470 --> 00:23:43.296
they get the new cars and they've got
a box of saying, but it was only on

00:23:43.329 --> 00:23:48.786
one end. So that wouldn't believe how
did you release the well, we had a

00:23:48.819 --> 00:23:54.756
put that on a wood on that matter. A
little sand sprayed on that. It was

00:23:54.789 --> 00:23:58.796
kind of the sweet. I was supposed to
be this isn't there on those new cars

00:23:58.829 --> 00:24:05.097
? Did they ever try on any kind of a
warning device other than just the

00:24:05.130 --> 00:24:11.976
bell the plane. Did you ever have any
kind of a ring back all of you? No,

00:24:12.009 --> 00:24:17.486
no, no, no, I don't think so. I met
during the war they created one of the

00:24:17.519 --> 00:24:24.326
months of advertising ways continue to
speak are blue and various colors.

00:24:24.359 --> 00:24:29.546
The advertisers have to join the waves
and maybe something and no, I

00:24:29.579 --> 00:24:34.137
don't think so because I know they
didn't have anything boys. They told me

00:24:34.170 --> 00:24:37.816
when I took the last one in that time,
they wanted to get the

00:24:37.849 --> 00:24:41.847
commissioners and on there and
everything. And I had a flat wheel there

00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:45.486
and they told me that make it make as
much noise as it could, you know,

00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:51.397
because there's quite much the same
dad read about, you know, but downward

00:24:51.430 --> 00:24:57.197
country try to the classic. Yeah. The
problem of Belle Melanie more than I

00:24:57.230 --> 00:25:03.026
would have any other time. I know that
some of those, one of those cars, I

00:25:03.059 --> 00:25:06.836
don't remember which one of them
things needed defense kind of sprung or

00:25:06.869 --> 00:25:12.006
off center or something in other words
if my body was twisted or something

00:25:12.039 --> 00:25:15.056
I can't really look one that was what
we used to pay very close attention

00:25:15.089 --> 00:25:21.187
. I said when we grow them you know uh
like I like the ones in particular

00:25:21.220 --> 00:25:26.137
one they always, they always say Aaron
50505

00:25:26.170 --> 00:25:32.296
and 514 a couple of years on there all
the time and I always enjoy those

00:25:32.329 --> 00:25:35.756
well it seems like they always put
their flat wheel runs out of the chair

00:25:35.789 --> 00:25:40.566
down. There's a little sharp guy used
to work for watch emceeing worked

00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:45.397
there for a good many years He lives
about three blocks this side of the

00:25:45.430 --> 00:25:51.627
3rd town and and he said when I went
out and he said he's always woke him

00:25:51.660 --> 00:25:54.447
up and he had time to get dressed and
put on his shoes and come running

00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:59.147
out across catch a car, coming back to
town and he was sweating twice or

00:25:59.180 --> 00:26:04.566
downtown anyhow one morning and I come
back down and almost stopped and

00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:09.107
couldn't single place but that James
ST start give me one that didn't have

00:26:09.140 --> 00:26:12.306
a flat field

00:26:12.339 --> 00:26:19.296
Carlos up close up Mr newcomer I think
was president running you out then

00:26:19.329 --> 00:26:24.756
you pull them up mr newcomer one of
the, you say 55 or something like that

00:26:24.789 --> 00:26:30.627
because that flat. Well you said
that's my arm lock like I'm trying to

00:26:30.660 --> 00:26:34.677
kick out of that. You know, you can
really get to hear. I mean you'd

00:26:34.710 --> 00:26:39.306
always know if you weren't listening.
You wouldn't care. But if you wanted

00:26:39.339 --> 00:26:43.937
to take the car you would listen and
you know. Well one just went up. It

00:26:43.970 --> 00:26:48.576
was something that it really just
really worked out useful. You just

00:26:48.609 --> 00:26:56.609
didn't you know, couldn't ask for it
being better. I don't know. Yeah.

00:26:57.940 --> 00:27:03.407
I've got a lot of funny things happen
though.

00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:11.440
I remember sometimes somebody then ran
one off what was left tracks. Yeah.

00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:18.286
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. An attack because I
think there's two of them

00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:23.607
differently. I don't know where it
was. Just I think I think just women's

00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:31.640
you didn't Up There 23rd. Uh

00:27:31.740 --> 00:27:36.917
It seemed like just as one of the
Georgia Ford was the other one room off

00:27:36.950 --> 00:27:41.236
the West and the 22nd. They didn't put
on the brakes, spreading out.

00:27:41.269 --> 00:27:45.076
Thought they had another box to go or
something like that. Georgia for a

00:27:45.109 --> 00:27:52.586
Ford was here for you. He had a good
when he thought he had another locked

00:27:52.619 --> 00:27:58.367
door when he ran out and probably
didn't have more power. I got back in

00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:02.957
there about him around at night when
the car is still rolling

00:28:02.990 --> 00:28:07.107
out there.

00:28:07.140 --> 00:28:11.236
I don't know what love for sure, but I
know there's two different ones.

00:28:11.269 --> 00:28:16.887
Didn't seem like well we used to
remember that I was about well from the

00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:20.887
time that I was born, we lived out
there and I guess I was 56 years old.

00:28:20.920 --> 00:28:27.006
And we used to I ride up in front and
the the motive you should always let

00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:32.026
the kids turn your friends from the
fare box. You could have done this for

00:28:32.059 --> 00:28:38.707
me. You know? I'm not kidding. He was
one of the you know

00:28:38.740 --> 00:28:42.707
uh you can tell it looks a little bit
of a man that doesn't have a

00:28:42.740 --> 00:28:48.066
mustache was about that big. But I
recognized him very funny today. Oh

00:28:48.099 --> 00:28:54.536
yeah, absolutely. And we used to be a
lot better now. Yeah. But the kids,

00:28:54.569 --> 00:28:58.496
the kids used to live out there, we go
down there and some of the guys

00:28:58.529 --> 00:29:04.617
best team trolley. Everybody wanted to
get on the back end of the Capital

00:29:04.650 --> 00:29:08.107
West Adams car wanted to come up and
stop and people would get off.

00:29:08.140 --> 00:29:12.576
Everybody wanted to get in the back,
40 changed trolleys. And I don't

00:29:12.609 --> 00:29:15.766
know why that was. It seemed to me
that apparently you weren't supposed to

00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:19.496
do that. And there were two schools of
thought some of the motor that much

00:29:19.529 --> 00:29:24.756
to do that. And some of them ran me
off. You wouldn't like to do that. You

00:29:24.789 --> 00:29:32.157
don't know what it was. Uh It's hard
when people living out there there

00:29:32.190 --> 00:29:39.857
that you see are there just no, just
above him because the way we had some

00:29:39.890 --> 00:29:47.746
cows and way down below across the
track and uh Uh huh They used to come

00:29:47.779 --> 00:29:54.826
up and get milk at our place said 26
West Monroe gets made that corner

00:29:54.859 --> 00:30:02.859
down facing challenges. Yeah, well
they he is what he used to walked.

00:30:03.250 --> 00:30:10.367
That's the big Yeah, he he lived like
Jefferson. I'm Jefferson. Yes, I'm

00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:15.476
Jefferson 20 seconds. He lived between
25 and 23rd and Jefferson on that

00:30:15.509 --> 00:30:20.397
side of the three, right just next to
that open, you know there's a

00:30:20.430 --> 00:30:25.697
connection you know Ernie Soller went
back east and just write up about

00:30:25.730 --> 00:30:30.937
any boys in the west didn't smoke or
anything like that you know. Mr Salas.

00:30:30.970 --> 00:30:36.187
Remember any, he got to sign the peace
for us and finally retired from me

00:30:36.220 --> 00:30:42.397
and him and my boys used to have a
treehouse up in those little trees on

00:30:42.430 --> 00:30:50.430
that now have their cigarettes in
there, you know that the uh We'll see my

00:30:51.539 --> 00:30:56.137
my grandfather and grandmother and
father and everybody grew up right

00:30:56.170 --> 00:31:01.857
there. The two story house on 20
Crockett and Jefferson and there was a

00:31:01.890 --> 00:31:05.746
grocery store on this side of the
street over here in this house is on it

00:31:05.779 --> 00:31:11.657
was still there is on the south, on
the northwest corner, 15 Story House

00:31:11.690 --> 00:31:15.597
was kind of television African of it
and pompey at least believe in

00:31:15.630 --> 00:31:21.006
electricity there. Anyway this sour
used to walk by when I was like, so

00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:24.437
every night came back from work we can
get off the street car and walks by

00:31:24.470 --> 00:31:28.496
in uniform and the specifics that they
always stay hiding in, you know

00:31:28.529 --> 00:31:31.326
that kind of time.

00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:34.776
Remember then when mr

00:31:34.809 --> 00:31:39.717
His name. We built the store down in
22nd Jefferson and that big store

00:31:39.750 --> 00:31:45.677
down there leaper was the guy that
owned it for a while now but later no

00:31:45.710 --> 00:31:51.506
man's land. Well we built that
building in the corner. My wife worked in

00:31:51.539 --> 00:31:54.566
there and she's working there too hot
and then I went there after I got

00:31:54.599 --> 00:32:00.006
off the street cars work. Believe me,
you don't, there's not if I had more

00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:07.147
money and we do it like that. We built
the building there. What? Oh that's

00:32:07.180 --> 00:32:10.427
good. That's good.

00:32:10.460 --> 00:32:15.506
And the judge Phelps just lived down
the walking street just below us down.

00:32:15.539 --> 00:32:19.887
I remember you but I think you're
going to be hard to remember that.

00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:24.457
Another thing I I found out, I didn't
try to remember names now. Well we

00:32:24.490 --> 00:32:29.387
knew I remember him, he was what we
called him what? Watch himself? Just

00:32:29.420 --> 00:32:34.667
to have that. But he could, if he
heard your name once, he could remember

00:32:34.700 --> 00:32:39.687
20 years after, you know that we will
always say watch, watch your step

00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:43.707
and that's what everybody called him.
Watch yourself. He's got idea about

00:32:43.740 --> 00:32:51.046
that. Oh, eight months ago over a year
is the year to year.

00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:55.486
Well me and my grandmother used to go
through their routine. I don't know

00:32:55.519 --> 00:33:00.407
how long he it works on two. Sorry, I
don't think I remember. And the

00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:06.256
person depression is a nickel was a
lot of money and everybody knew And my

00:33:06.289 --> 00:33:12.107
father and grandfather were working
sporadically and everybody knew That

00:33:12.140 --> 00:33:16.097
those three cars, I mean they've been
looking at me ever since I was born

00:33:16.130 --> 00:33:19.326
and if they could count they would
know that I was five years old and that

00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:25.326
was the break even point. It took pay
after five and especially I remember

00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:29.826
this would watch your step. He and my
grandmother had this routine worked

00:33:29.859 --> 00:33:33.857
out to go down the street car and he
knew I was five and my grandmother

00:33:33.890 --> 00:33:41.506
was so she was died last year new. I
knew that he knew that I was five and

00:33:41.539 --> 00:33:45.707
he'd say, how old is the boy? I should
say not yet five and say, all right.

00:33:45.740 --> 00:33:51.187
Didn't charge. I did go for about two
or three years. I was just terrible.

00:33:51.220 --> 00:33:56.736
You know, I've never forgotten that.
Yeah, it was awful. He is. He was

00:33:56.769 --> 00:34:02.576
just honestly be though he was a fine
boy. I never, never forget that. It

00:34:02.609 --> 00:34:07.407
was really, really comfortable. We
always had something to say to, you

00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:13.896
know? Yeah, Well, I better get on the
way here. I've made it to the t

00:34:13.929 --> 00:34:21.416
There was nothing that question. I
know I had 14 and then the safety words

00:34:21.449 --> 00:34:28.887
when I quit. How about that I was
driving 40 and 45,000 miles a year

00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:32.626
changeover from streetcars busses
still kept on. The guy who's out

00:34:32.659 --> 00:34:34.706
accident.

00:34:34.739 --> 00:34:40.416
I got to one years there. I want to
start with, I had like 14 days of

00:34:40.449 --> 00:34:46.896
having uh two years in and get a car
down in the forties and video. And

00:34:46.929 --> 00:34:51.186
they charged me up with it was the
safety stop because I didn't stop and I

00:34:51.219 --> 00:34:55.706
hit it. Yeah, but they charged me up
with, that's how I come to get to one

00:34:55.739 --> 00:34:59.356
and then I was determined again to
start it. And you didn't like that? One

00:34:59.389 --> 00:35:07.389
more bad habit. But who had the
somebody there? There was a collision on

00:35:08.250 --> 00:35:13.177
by ST mary's church enough and saying
the church and some guy drove a car

00:35:13.210 --> 00:35:16.977
into the front door over the street
cars and I don't think they ever even

00:35:17.010 --> 00:35:23.597
rebuilt it. It was like, it was put at
the end there uh 1947 or

00:35:23.630 --> 00:35:26.227
thereabouts?

00:35:26.260 --> 00:35:32.117
I don't know. Of course they wouldn't
remember the I think they had it. I

00:35:32.150 --> 00:35:37.146
used to go out and look around the car
barn from time to time and it seems

00:35:37.179 --> 00:35:39.977
to me they had it sitting there for a
long time. I think maybe it was five

00:35:40.010 --> 00:35:45.006
or one. Just a number on it, but it
just completely smashed old car, but

00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:50.387
also smashed in the door and there he
was on the right side right there.

00:35:50.420 --> 00:35:55.097
Uh Oh, it's on that street where the
Republican debate is. Uh you know

00:35:55.130 --> 00:36:00.796
what I hold on, but there was no stop
signs but

00:36:00.829 --> 00:36:07.467
mhm I guess there was very many wrecks
with streetcars at all. We had

00:36:07.500 --> 00:36:13.936
quite a few do not many bad ones. They
all try to make them bad. He just

00:36:13.969 --> 00:36:18.997
any little thing they could try to
shoot the streetcar for it, you know.

00:36:19.030 --> 00:36:25.086
So this fellow that hit their 40 man
and his wife said to him, she said, I

00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:28.796
told him, she says the first thing
he's going to get hit some of these

00:36:28.829 --> 00:36:32.396
days. He says he never make a safe to
stop when he's supposed to or

00:36:32.429 --> 00:36:39.597
anything. But still held that against
me for 14 days and had $100. It's a

00:36:39.630 --> 00:36:44.197
bonus and deciding my safety or
industry. She said that this guy was right

00:36:44.230 --> 00:36:52.230
, that's still there, you know, they
follow my action interesting. Well

00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:59.597
you, you certainly can't accuse a big
car, you know, I had to stop. That's

00:36:59.630 --> 00:37:06.497
all I could. I just barely bumping
snatched the side you know, I did. They

00:37:06.530 --> 00:37:10.847
run the new cars on the lead for the
part? When did they stop there? Oh no

00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:16.197
, no, they running down there for
seven years.

00:37:16.230 --> 00:37:19.997
I don't know project

00:37:20.030 --> 00:37:25.197
We had one fellow name of cooks here
and there was wet, awful wet, which

00:37:25.230 --> 00:37:29.977
is ready. They just coming around,
they're coming out from Jefferson on on

00:37:30.010 --> 00:37:35.847
15th again and coming around that
curve I traveled jumped off Cooks, you

00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:40.876
used a conductor and just findings is
motivated

00:37:40.909 --> 00:37:46.896
and Cooksey reads out the back window
and tricks hitting the traveler with

00:37:46.929 --> 00:37:50.887
that you know where the roof is all
wet and everything. He was giving the

00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:55.856
double short and you couldn't guess
you hit the travel writer but he had a

00:37:55.889 --> 00:37:59.206
hole in the world and he couldn't let
us you know begin to hire and you're

00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:03.637
yelling to beat all and that's just
funny as he used to work in the coal

00:38:03.670 --> 00:38:07.506
mine back east he said and he knew if
he went back and grabbed him and he

00:38:07.539 --> 00:38:10.677
can get it to you know, so he took his
shoulder and bumped him up in the

00:38:10.710 --> 00:38:18.276
morning humping his track. Cokie got
up find and shoot yourself. How are

00:38:18.309 --> 00:38:22.986
you trying to kill me? He says

00:38:23.019 --> 00:38:29.546
remember that picture. He was always
having accidents but what they do

00:38:29.579 --> 00:38:33.227
they run that bound you run on
Washington street line all the way down to

00:38:33.260 --> 00:38:41.217
16 and 17 and then you go down to 17.
Jefferson round out uh one down

00:38:41.250 --> 00:38:46.666
Washington street to 17 and out around
by jefferson show over the east

00:38:46.699 --> 00:38:51.727
lake park and then they came back on a
chinese grocery that's right back

00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:55.407
and then back onto Washington there's
a piece of trash is still exposed

00:38:55.440 --> 00:39:02.896
out there right there were you know
that and then came the case is over

00:39:02.929 --> 00:39:06.807
because they left back to they took
that off of course that switch was

00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:11.677
still there for long I guess it's
still there and the trunk but he Oh yeah

00:39:11.710 --> 00:39:14.756
, somebody

00:39:14.789 --> 00:39:20.736
was watching there. So just opened up
right here. Close up. Those were all

00:39:20.769 --> 00:39:27.177
those switches. Winning those switches
electrically operated. And we did

00:39:27.210 --> 00:39:31.887
have them later on. We got some
electric churches after they got them

00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:36.427
regulated why they got a box over on
the side and so we could give it some

00:39:36.460 --> 00:39:42.026
juice. You know about the switch open
holding up before that you're

00:39:42.059 --> 00:39:47.217
looking good dollars. How do you, how
did you pop this dish? What we do

00:39:47.250 --> 00:39:50.977
with it like this and give it a point
of control or something like that.

00:39:51.010 --> 00:39:54.787
So that's all going.

00:39:54.820 --> 00:39:58.477
I always wondered about that. You have
at one point I think it was in the

00:39:58.510 --> 00:40:02.727
description and then we put on a great
quick been broken. So we should

00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:06.077
start calling it.

00:40:06.110 --> 00:40:11.626
Mm Well I better get out. You would
have to have the point. You have to

00:40:11.659 --> 00:40:16.436
have one point on when they tried to
hit the breaker on the line. You see

00:40:16.469 --> 00:40:21.117
when you hit the breaker that switch
over to stay there and didn't say

00:40:21.150 --> 00:40:24.577
that.

00:40:24.610 --> 00:40:28.146
Well there are, if you don't mind, I'd
like to come back some other day

00:40:28.179 --> 00:40:31.506
and chat with

00:40:31.539 --> 00:40:34.166
me because

00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:37.506
it just isn't anybody around that
knows about all this sort of thing. And

00:40:37.539 --> 00:40:42.477
uh I can find photographs

00:40:42.510 --> 00:40:45.436
my will

00:40:45.469 --> 00:40:52.506
know if I can ever get the problem of
sam hodge and I know he'd like to

00:40:52.539 --> 00:40:57.736
give information to him. I'd certainly
like to I'd certainly like to talk

00:40:57.769 --> 00:41:03.706
with him and and joe or not joe.

00:41:03.739 --> 00:41:10.686
Well joe was not so much joe done in
the book work there. Uh Sam is Sam is

00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:16.597
the oldest because he'd worked so many
years. Even

00:41:16.630 --> 00:41:24.630
if you if you give me your name and
your so yeah,

00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:30.267
if I give you because Sam likes to get
around and talk he's about And I

00:41:30.300 --> 00:41:35.006
think Sam was 81 or two years old, but
he likes to talk and well, I'm sure

00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:41.599
they want to get a spittoon around so
we can shoot back to my grandfather.

00:41:41.730 --> 00:41:43.730
So I'm used to work on the street cars and if I was conducted forever or

00:41:45.969 --> 00:41:50.407
something like that and keep advancing
back. If you see you coming up

00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:55.396
there, you got to take a step for you.

00:41:55.429 --> 00:42:02.947
I don't have it here. I'm sure he
could give you a anything if I didn't

00:42:02.980 --> 00:42:07.086
know. I know he would know. And I
know. And sometime next time I come back

00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:11.916
, I'd like to perhaps uh borrow your
pictures and have some reproduction

00:42:11.949 --> 00:42:16.046
for me. Okay,

00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:22.316
well, I'll be happy to take good care
of him. I'll bring him back

00:42:22.349 --> 00:42:27.077
and tell you what I'll do. I've got
some extra pictures avi would you like

00:42:27.110 --> 00:42:32.106
to have some of the Yes, that would be
kind of nice. Okay, well, I just I

00:42:32.139 --> 00:42:36.506
made up several extra limbs and you
can have this whole set if you'd like

00:42:36.539 --> 00:42:40.097
to have them. the little ones too
because I got plenty of those? Well, I

00:42:40.130 --> 00:42:44.526
was, I need so many of them. How about
you? Just let me have a one or two

00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:49.287
of the big, I've got duplicates at
home. I've got a lot. So if you'd like

00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:53.637
to have all of those, um, well, I'll
tell you what I do, we have a picnic

00:42:53.670 --> 00:43:00.756
every twice a year with weapons and
then why I had to take him out there

00:43:00.789 --> 00:43:06.356
and show the boys over time you can
have it. How can I get sam and get in

00:43:06.389 --> 00:43:11.236
touch with you before? Because he just
wants to shop down and talk to and

00:43:11.269 --> 00:43:17.057
anybody that, well, he likes to talk
anyhow. Sam, he likes to talk in jail

00:43:17.090 --> 00:43:21.247
and I haven't talked to anybody in
particular. He worked here when the

00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:26.526
cars did turn the corner there at
Corey's old story, you know, and go

00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:30.586
south. Sam worked on that when they
did do that. That was back in the days

00:43:30.619 --> 00:43:38.066
when they talk about the new york
store said accord accord

00:43:38.099 --> 00:43:42.947
phoenix college downtown.

00:43:42.980 --> 00:43:47.697
Well, I don't very much, but I have to
the courthouse periodically and I

00:43:47.730 --> 00:43:51.807
have to go down there when I get
downtown. But

00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:59.760
I want to make sure that I, oh yeah,
that I, that I do want to take home.

00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:01.800
This is the picture of the statements that

00:44:07.150 --> 00:44:12.706
still belong to that yet. It's a very
transitional man now you made the

00:44:12.739 --> 00:44:17.077
2018 Street Electric Railway and motor
coach employees in America. How

00:44:17.110 --> 00:44:21.557
bout that 18, 19

00:44:21.590 --> 00:44:27.557
really with nearly took him out for
you. Yeah, but I don't want clippings

00:44:27.590 --> 00:44:32.137
. I can't get pictures of the
pictures. I can have two people take

00:44:32.170 --> 00:44:37.307
pictures of you say you're in the
hobby, isn't it? Yeah, I'm an attorney.

00:44:37.340 --> 00:44:44.657
 That's ST prize is my hobby.

00:44:44.690 --> 00:44:52.690
No, that's that's my occupation. Been
at it. Well, doc please. 13 years

00:44:54.019 --> 00:45:02.019
now for longer than 10. How time
flies?

00:45:04.090 --> 00:45:11.666
That's just, well, let's see how we
get along like this. Any time we

00:45:11.699 --> 00:45:14.296
shouldn't run and

00:45:14.329 --> 00:45:22.247
I think we'll do that carefully
reproduced. Yeah.

00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:28.626
Well, I'm going to, I'm going to
publish a book. I've got a lot of

00:45:28.659 --> 00:45:34.106
pictures and I've got a lot of
material and, and there are lots of books

00:45:34.139 --> 00:45:36.157
published

00:45:36.190 --> 00:45:41.997
in the, on various crawling lines and
so forth. And actually, it's a

00:45:42.030 --> 00:45:45.316
pretty good market for it. It's not an
economic because he is with Mason

00:45:45.349 --> 00:45:52.267
on the, I have one of these, uh, she
that one goes to the department of

00:45:52.300 --> 00:45:54.789
library andarchive