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1st, I want to on behalf of my family. three of my back here and that is

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to have lost my wife and my oldest
daughter, mrs Ross and my youngest

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daughter Peggy, my son, Michael, my
son Berry, who is busy working in Los

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Angeles. I want to welcome you to
Arizona and welcome little banana clean

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the community and the Navajo means
house on the top of the hill. Ever

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since the last Republican convention,
Thousands of Americans have asked me

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to seek the Republican presidential
nomination in 1964.

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I've withheld a decision until now,
not to be politically coid, but

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because I've been giving every aspect
of such a decision, the most serious

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consideration today here at our home
in the state that I love with my

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family and with the people whose
friendships and political interests have

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placed me where I am. I want to tell
you two things. First, I want to tell

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you that I will seek the Republican
presidential nomination. And I've

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decided to do this because of the
principles in which I believe and

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because I'm convinced that millions of
americans share my belief in those

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principles, I decided to do this also
because I have not heard from any

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announced Republican candidate, a
declaration of conscience or a political

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position that could possibly offer to
the american people a clear choice

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in the next presidential election.
Now, one of the great attributes of our

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american two party system has always
been the reflected differences in

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principle as a general rule. one Party
has emphasized individual liberty

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and the other has favored the
extension of government power. I am

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convinced that today, a majority in
the Republican Party believes in the

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essential emphasis on individual
liberty. Now, I've been spelling out my

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position For 10 years in the Senate
and for years before that, here in my

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own state. Now spell it out even
further in the months to come fact. Back

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in the first senatorial campaign that
I engaged in. I was asked by a very

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prominent member of the press in this
state, what kind of a republican are

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you? I replied that I was not a me too
republicans. And this still holds I

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won't change my beliefs to win votes.
I will offer a choice, not an echo.

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This will not be an engagement of
personalities. It will be an engagement

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of principles. I've always stood for
government that is limited and

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balance and against ever increasing
concentrations of authority. In

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Washington, I've always stood for
individual responsibility and against

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regimentation. I believe we must now
make a choice in this land, and not

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continue drifting endlessly down the
war any time when all of us, all of

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our lives, our property, our hopes,
and even our prayers will become just

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a cog. And they've asked the
government machine, I believe that we can win

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victory for freedom, both at home and
abroad, and I believe that we can be

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strong enough and determined enough to
win those victories without war.

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And I believe that appeasement and
weakness can only bring war. I have

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asked and I will continue to ask
across this country. Why not victory. Why

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not victory for sound constitutional
principles in government. Why not

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victory over the evils of communism? I
am convinced That in this year of

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1964 we must face up to our conscience
and make a definite choice. We must

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decide what sort of people we are and
what sort of a world we want now and

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for our Children. My candidacy is
pledged to a victory for principle and

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to presenting an opportunity for the
american people to choose. Let there

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be a choice right now and in clear,
understandable terms. And I ask all

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those who feel and believe as I do to
join with me and assuring both the

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choice and the victory. Now, the
second thing I wanted to tell you is that

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I will continue with all my strength
to work for America and for Arizona

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in my service in the Senate, I have
previously announced that I will file

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for reelection to the Senate and I
find no incompatibility in these two

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candidates. Ladies and gentlemen of
the press. If you have some questions

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, I'll be glad to try to answer them
in a few moments that we have.

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When will I begin it? I'm going to
grand rapids michigan monday night next

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for a fundraising speech, you might
say that would be the start of it.

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Right. I'll probably go to new
Hampshire No, not this week. Next week. Yes.

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 I

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wish I could give you an answer
completely to that. I can't I will have to

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file for Illinois by january the 27th
and I would intend to do that. I

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will file for new Hampshire. I'm
definitely going into California. I'm

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already entered in Oregon. Their
situation revolving revolving around

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favorite sons that may have some
effect upon what other primaries I go

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into. But I couldn't give you a
complete categorical answer now, because I

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don't know get the nomination.

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I'll have to cross that bridge when I
get to it. Frankly, I'm going we

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have an unusual situation in this
state and that we file for nomination A

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few days before the Republican
Convention. And then the primary isn't

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until the 2nd Tuesday in September so
I can't cross that bridge. Do I get

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to it. And I don't know what my
friends would do about it. It's way too

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early to say.

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I don't think see any reason for
republicans debate each other, but it

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will undoubtedly wind up in some kind
of a debate either by the press or

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face to face or anything like that. We
see what happens senator in the 60

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campaign. You critical

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about Lyndon johnson and double
candidacy, how do you what he could do

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with your old pieces already? Well, of
course, if the opposition had been

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anybody else, I would have had to been
careful. But when the teacher

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himself is running, I would like to be
a rather good student.

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Yes.

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I don't know where his private car is
today. Now I talked with General

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Eisenhower.

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Oh, it's way, way back in september,
but it was an entirely different

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subject matter. It had no bearing on
this at all. I don't know how he

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feels his brothers for me. I know that

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young people have had a very decided
influence on my decision. I'd say

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probably more than any other one
factor because these young people are

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interested in conservatism and I felt
that if I didn't make myself

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available, they might become
discouraged. You might not vote and if you

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don't vote your first time, your
chances are you won't vote the next time.

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And I think that had the biggest
factor of any, it makes a broad man

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senator.

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We'll take it with you filed for
another. You know, the governor just

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found out about my decision about 10
minutes ago and I haven't had a

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chance to visit with paul. I've never
tried to influence what he wants to

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do. And I think he's the best governor
we've ever had. I wouldn't want to

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change his mind.

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The economy drive well if he had a
real economy drive going, it'll be all

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right. But he saved about $500 million
$8

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billion. One educational bill. That
Kennedy. Well, once put it the other

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way. President Kennedy got 15 times
more than he asked for and johnson had

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a chance to be a real economize and
veto it. But he didn't do it. So when

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he shows some signs of real sincere
economizing, I'll say cheer, cheer,

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let's go. But so far he's only fooling
the public. How do you, do they

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have to relax, sir? And he wanted
relaxation of relations or the more

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normal castro. I haven't changed the
only on him and I don't think we

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ought to relax our relations with him.
We ought to get a little tougher

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with. Do you have any preference for
vice presidential running, mate? No.

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The only thing I'm looking for an hour
delegate. Mhm.

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Senator. You can see, sorry, that is
fascinating. President did hurt your

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chance. Sound Oh I think you'd have to
be honest and say that it would you

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have now a president who is a
southerner. At least he calls himself a

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southerner. Ah that's going to have an
effect because the chairman of the

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committee's are mostly southerners and
they want to be in with the

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president. But I want to wait and hear
the State of the Union message next

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week and I think then we can take a
reassessment and many more

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reassessments. I'm not surprised about
anything that's happened is great

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popularity at the present time. After
all, we've had a moratorium that we

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republicans very carefully observed
and we tried to help him and we will

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try to help him. As I told the group
inside, I'd like him to be the

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greatest president we ever had. And if
the republican influence on him to

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make him that I'll be glad for it,
that's the position that parties should

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take. Uh huh Southern victory for us.
Central international victory. I

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don't buy that and I don't buy that.
The South will necessarily go with a

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southerner. The south is not, the
south will not be won on the old issues.

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It will be one on economic issues and
on conservative economic issues.

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More than anything else.

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Civil rights. Going to be hard. What's
your position on civil rights? But

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I won't change my position on civil
rights. I've stated it many many times.

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Can you carry that way you make your
decision to run? Senator? What when

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did you make your decision to Ron?

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Oh my golly about 10 days ago.

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Yes, that's far. Well, if your
estimate of the relative strength of

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various candidates for the Republican
nomination,

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that's a pretty hard thing to do. And
anything I would say would just be

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cutting off the top of the head, so to
speak. I've enjoyed a lead for the

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same reason that Nixon did. I've been
identified with party workers all

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over the country, has a party worker
as what interested in party unity In

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seven years of speaking, traveled over
a million miles and been in every

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state in the Union. In fact, I counted
up the other day, I made over 200

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speeches in New York City. I've met
practically every worker in the

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Republican Party, so they would
naturally inclined towards a person like

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that. Not that it's me now.
Rockefeller still has to accomplish that.

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Nixon has to rebuild it. Romney has to
accomplish it. And so to Scranton,

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whether it can be done and six or 7
months, I don't know.

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Yes. I consider anybody who has
visited Mr Eisenhower in the last two

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weeks of potential candidate.

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Alright,

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well, I happen to be a firm believer
in the common market, but I don't

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think we're going about it, right, and
I'll spell that out in subsequent

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talk. What do you believe will be the
major issue here? Ah I think the

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condition of the economy, high
spending of the government, high taxes and

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ah foreign policy, unless johnson
changes the foreign policy to strengthen

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NATO, to strengthen our position in
the world, vis a vis communist senator

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, if you should fail to get the
nomination with you under any

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circumstances consider second spot.
And No, no, sir, I'd rather be a

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senator and a vice president. I come
from northwestern north Dakota where

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everyone is dependent on the income
from small farms. What is your

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position? I think present. What do you
think about the President's plan

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program. And what would you do to
better or would you, do you agree with

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the President administration. Well, I
don't think the President

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agricultural program has been working,
I don't think it's worked since the

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war, particularly, it hasn't worked
for the small farmer now, you're a big

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wheat farmers up in that country,
doing pretty good on this farm program,

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in that general area. The small farmer
is not benefiting by this program,

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any place I've advocated getting the
farmers back under the operation of

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the marketplace and getting government
gradually out of their hair. That's

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yes, it can't be done overnight. What
is your opinion of the reduction of

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military bases and further cuts in the
military budget? From the

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standpoint of both security and
economy? Well, as far as the bases are

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concerned, I've been urging the the
air Force, particularly because of my

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connection with it too close the basis
that they didn't need. I would have

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hoped during the Eisenhower years that
bases would be closed that were not

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needed. And I think the step that
Secretary McNamara took was a wise one.

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And I think there's probably some more
closing as far as the reduction of

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the defense budget. I won't argue that
that can't be done. And I think

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you'll find it a lot of billion
dollars less this year than it was last

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year, There was a basic in your
decision to run that you could hold at

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least 45% of the popular vote, so that
you're conservative movement would

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not be I that was one of the factors
that I felt that if I if I were

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beaten And didn't lose by more than
the Magic five 55-45, every which

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direction you approach it, that this
would not harm the conservative

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movement would actually help it. And
the closer we could get to even

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steven, the better it would be. And I
feel that that would happen.

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Our brothers, are you referring to the
thing for? You know, I've never met

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no Edgar in Tacoma

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senator without President Eisenhower's
support. Do you really feel that

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you have a fair chance of gaining the
Republican nomination? It's going to

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be a real tough go. I'm not going in
this thing with any dream. I think

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it's going to be a very difficult
thing for a westerner from a small state

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population wise to get the nomination,
but I think it's time that we give

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the republicans a choice other than
the eastern seaboard or the Western

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seaboard, and I'm willing to take that
chance Eisenhower's help, Nixon's

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help everybody's help needed for a
republican where the led the small

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party in this country. I think your
decision will have any effect on any

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decision. Mr Nixon might have

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No. I couldn't answer that. I haven't
seen Dick since he was in Phoenix

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during the convention, during the
campaign in 1960 and I don't have any

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idea what his thoughts

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do you advocate any major changes in
our present,

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only

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that related earlier, I would the
firmer in our relations to NATO. I think

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this is the greatest machine for a
piece that we've ever put together. And

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I'd hate to see it degenerate fall
fall apart because of lack of attention

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on our part. Mhm. I have a paper on
this whole subject that I hope will be

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out within the next two or three weeks
senator. If you get the Republican

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nomination you plan to conduct an
active campaign in texas. But will you

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concede I don't concede anybody
anything. I I'm

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a Republican who's won in a democratic
state and mr democrats don't know

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what a dog fight is till they do
something like that. Yes. How are you?

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Good to see you. Do you still stand
firm in your position? That should be

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presidential nominations? Not ba
forthcoming. You would agree to go on his

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vice president? No, no, I would not
agree. No, I'd much rather be in the

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senate senator. What affection if any
of you desire to give to the in the

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school of bait. Well, again in this
paper that I mentioned, I'll spell out

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my position there very clearly. I have
never opposed the United Nations. I

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I asked the question, what the United
Nations are we talking about? The

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one that we planned under the charter
or the one that we're operating

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under today where we violated at least
two of the provisions of the

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charter and where we allow
participating nations to vote without paying

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their dues. I frankly think it's time
we have another charter meeting and

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try to bring the thing up to date. The
only time I would be serious about

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with going would be of red china were
admitted under the present ground

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rules. Campaign manager alternative.
Yes, I have. Just happen to have one.

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 Uh,

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yeah. As you all know, Denison Kitchel
is general director of the campaign

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organization. And Dean Burch, who was
a lawyer from Tucson and a former

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administrative assistant of mine in
Washington is Assistant General

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director and Richard Kline beans.
That's K L E I N D E N S T. And I'm

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going to get him to change that. Uh,
Dick was are there was a former state

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chairman in Arizona and he's taken
accepted last night. The director of

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field operations for the whole
country. You all know Tony smith who's been

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with me for years. And Ed Mccabe in
Western is director of research and

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I'm very happy to announce that
yesterday. Mrs Emery Johnson we know has

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Annie johnson here was former national
committee, woman is director of

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women's activities for the whole
country. That's my staff as it goes right

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today. And I'm very happy not man
Getchell is we call him the poncho out

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here. He's the head honchos, thunder
that we have the second name. The one

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you get after people. A Dean birch.
That's not related to john birch,

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bur ch Dean, Assistant general
director of campaign organizations. Will

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you take a stand of the john birch
society? As Nixon campaign? Any

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organization that wants to overthrow
our government by violence or or

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treason. I'll take a stand against.
And I see no reason to take a stand

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against any organization just because
they're up there. They're using

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their constitutional prerogatives.
Even though I disagree with most of

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them. You saved my manager that I'm
talking about. Yeah. Well I've said

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for some time I think they need
overhauling their rather antiquated. It

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takes too long to operate. Hello tom.
How are you ready? Well your

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grandson the other day a bank in
California. All of it. My family moved to

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California 100 and 1000 14 years ago
uh from England. And we lived up in

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the Sonora country. And I, my father
was born in Los Angeles. I have one

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son that was born there. He won't
admit it but he was. And I have a

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daughter. Was born in California. We
maintained a home in La Hoya for many

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years. I have a lot of friends in
California. I think we can do well over.

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Thank you senator. Thank you
gentlemen, ladies, we have coffee and

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sandwiches something. What the hell
isthat