WEBVTT 00:00:01.340 --> 00:00:06.337 My mother always introduced her only son, Carl as the senator. My brother 00:00:06.370 --> 00:00:10.877 Carl Hayden was the first anglo american child born in Tempe which was 00:00:10.910 --> 00:00:16.486 known then as Hayden's Ferry. I remember him as we grew up together and he 00:00:16.519 --> 00:00:22.526 was a most normal and yet unusual boy. He preached funeral services for 00:00:22.559 --> 00:00:28.567 the chickens and pets that died. He learned to swim in the Salt River near 00:00:28.600 --> 00:00:35.817 the butte and very early he showed an interest and national and world 00:00:35.850 --> 00:00:38.006 affairs 00:00:38.039 --> 00:00:43.646 which would one day make him a senator. That is Miss Sally Hayden of Tempe 00:00:43.679 --> 00:00:50.076 , sister of Senator Carl Hayden, who is now dean of the United States 00:00:50.109 --> 00:00:56.987 Senate. Carl Hayden is an alumnus of Arizona State at Tempe. A graduate of 00:00:57.020 --> 00:01:02.717 the class of 1896 and our alumni who listened to this program, the Arizona 00:01:02.750 --> 00:01:07.857 statesman. I'm sure we'll be interested along with all our other listeners 00:01:07.890 --> 00:01:12.997 in the intimate details of Sally Hayden's life with her famous brother, 00:01:13.030 --> 00:01:18.997 which we will have in just a moment. Miss Sally Hayden, before we ask you 00:01:19.030 --> 00:01:25.376 about some of those intimate details of your childhood life with Carl your 00:01:25.409 --> 00:01:29.536 brother, I'd like to get your reaction to a statement that appeared in the 00:01:29.569 --> 00:01:35.357 U. S. News and world report just recently, namely that Carl Hayden is the 00:01:35.390 --> 00:01:40.587 most powerful man in the United States. What do you think about that? 00:01:40.620 --> 00:01:43.906 If he is so considered? 00:01:43.939 --> 00:01:48.837 I think it is because his interest is not only in the state to which he 00:01:48.870 --> 00:01:54.206 has devoted his life but to the nation as soon as you're asking his 00:01:54.239 --> 00:02:00.057 support on an issue. That's the answer I look into it. It's good. He votes 00:02:00.090 --> 00:02:05.706 for it. He considers everyone his friend 00:02:05.739 --> 00:02:12.427 though they may differ politically, so I have never known him to knock an 00:02:12.460 --> 00:02:14.807 opponent. 00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:18.217 Miss Hayden. I think that's a good answer and I think I want to tell our 00:02:18.250 --> 00:02:21.906 listeners that the reason the U. S. News and World Report believes Carl 00:02:21.939 --> 00:02:26.247 Hayden is the most powerful man in the United States is that as we all 00:02:26.280 --> 00:02:30.166 know, Senator Hayden is now dean of the United States Senate in point of 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:36.177 service, chairman of the all important appropriations committee and likely 00:02:36.210 --> 00:02:40.217 to be elected president pro temporary of the Senate, Which would put him 00:02:40.250 --> 00:02:45.186 4th in line for the presidency of the United States. However, his 00:02:45.219 --> 00:02:50.987 preeminence is largely derived from the fact that he holds this great 00:02:51.020 --> 00:02:58.886 position in a Congress which is democratically controlled. And then I 00:02:58.919 --> 00:03:05.126 think that is the way harper's bases its opinion. Now I'd like to ask you 00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:08.686 one other thing or tell you one other thing I read this week, Miss Hayden 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:14.647 uh in harper's magazine William S White in an article called who really 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:19.666 runs the U. S. Senate says that the most important thing in the Senate is 00:03:19.699 --> 00:03:24.346 what he calls the Inner Club. And this is what he says about your brother 00:03:24.379 --> 00:03:30.936 Carl Carl Hayden could very nearly be president of that Inner Club. If 00:03:30.969 --> 00:03:34.936 only it had officers. I think that should be very pleasing to you, Miss 00:03:34.969 --> 00:03:42.827 sally. It certainly is. Well, Miss Hayden, we are all interested in Karl's 00:03:42.860 --> 00:03:47.346 fabulous political career. I'm sure it has not been equaled in the West 00:03:47.379 --> 00:03:50.876 and perhaps not even in United States history. Could you briefly tell us 00:03:50.909 --> 00:03:55.527 about the details of that career? Why? Jimmy? I think you've answered that 00:03:55.560 --> 00:04:00.707 question. And the alumni bulletin, 00:04:00.740 --> 00:04:04.307 you put a picture of my brother 00:04:04.340 --> 00:04:07.506 on the front page. 00:04:07.539 --> 00:04:15.539 First In 1872, he was elected as attempting town council, then he was 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:18.606 sheriff 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:22.317 of Maricopa county 00:04:22.350 --> 00:04:27.806 and treasurer. Mhm 1912. 00:04:27.839 --> 00:04:35.839 He was a baby states 1st Congressman. Mhm. And now Is Dean of the Senate 00:04:36.139 --> 00:04:38.606 in 1956. 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:43.337 Well, he served in the United States Congress until 1926, didn't he? 14 00:04:43.370 --> 00:04:48.606 years and then was elected to the Senate and has just now been reelected 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:55.077 To his 6th term. Well, another question. MS Hayden, we know that Tempe 00:04:55.110 --> 00:05:02.106 used to be called Hayden's Ferry. How did this come to be? 00:05:02.139 --> 00:05:10.139 Well, jimmy, I think I can answer that best in my brothers own words. And 00:05:10.189 --> 00:05:13.527 the Arizona statesman. 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:18.346 I was born here because my father was the first settler in what is now 00:05:18.379 --> 00:05:22.416 Tempe. And I would like to tell you something about why he happened to 00:05:22.449 --> 00:05:27.317 come here. My father, like many Connecticut Yankees went west and on his 00:05:27.350 --> 00:05:31.746 way, taught school in rock school houses in Kentucky and indiana. He 00:05:31.779 --> 00:05:36.726 finished out the term of a school near ST louis Missouri where the teacher 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:41.717 had resigned after a fistfight with one of the big boys in the school. The 00:05:41.750 --> 00:05:47.377 big boy sized up the new teacher and decided not to take him on. In 1848, 00:05:47.410 --> 00:05:51.507 my father embarked on a trading expedition from independence Missouri 00:05:51.540 --> 00:05:56.356 across the plains with fake teams to santa fe and down the rio grande 00:05:56.389 --> 00:06:01.366 chihuahua in old Mexico. He maintained his headquarters in santa fe until 00:06:01.399 --> 00:06:08.306 after the Gadison purchase then figured your stock of goods to Tucson In 00:06:08.339 --> 00:06:13.837 1858 where he remained in business for the next 14 years. By that time, 00:06:13.870 --> 00:06:19.007 what Isabelle had been established at the mouth of the Colorado River so 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:23.467 that he could buy goods in san Francisco have them sent by sailing vessels 00:06:23.500 --> 00:06:29.176 down the pacific and up the gulf of California from ports Isabel, they 00:06:29.209 --> 00:06:33.986 came up the colorado river and flat bottom stern wheel steamboats to humor 00:06:34.019 --> 00:06:38.736 his freak teams. Then hauled the goods on the over land route south of the 00:06:38.769 --> 00:06:45.596 village to sand. He used his Newell teams to haul his own goods, but also 00:06:45.629 --> 00:06:51.517 contracted to haul supplies to various army posts. In Arizona. The troops 00:06:51.550 --> 00:06:56.017 at that time were engaged in fighting the Apache indians, which was a 00:06:56.050 --> 00:07:00.606 tough tribe to conquer and confined to their reservations. 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:05.536 In the late 1860, the Arizona military headquarters was moved from Tucson 00:07:05.569 --> 00:07:10.746 to cripple barracks in their Prescott and in order to submit bids on 00:07:10.779 --> 00:07:15.176 freaking contracts. He had to go there. He had never been north of the 00:07:15.209 --> 00:07:19.137 healer. And at Florence, they told him that the best crossing on the Salt 00:07:19.170 --> 00:07:24.517 River, with less danger of quicksand, was between two buttes on the south 00:07:24.550 --> 00:07:27.339 bank of the river.