WEBVTT 00:00:01.340 --> 00:00:07.167 with his ambulance and driver. He followed the directions and arrived 00:00:07.200 --> 00:00:12.476 where temper he is now located and found the river in flood. The high 00:00:12.509 --> 00:00:17.317 water detained him for two days. So with nothing else to do, he climbed 00:00:17.350 --> 00:00:23.206 the top of the Tempe butte, Which has an elevation of about 300 ft. As he 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:27.037 looked over the valley, there was not a sign of human habitation. On the 00:00:27.070 --> 00:00:32.707 south side of the river, nothing but a wide stretch of sage brush, 00:00:32.740 --> 00:00:39.807 creosote bushes, cactus and escape trees. The delay gave him time to think. 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:45.237 Here was water and level land which someday would be irrigated and the 00:00:45.270 --> 00:00:50.366 farmers will be quite certain to grow wheat. Why not enlarge the canal so 00:00:50.399 --> 00:00:54.457 as to make water power available to operate a flour mill at the base of 00:00:54.490 --> 00:01:00.366 the butte. By 1872, in cooperation with those who were digging the Tempe 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:06.906 Canal. That objective was accomplished. In addition to building the mill. 00:01:06.939 --> 00:01:11.126 He transferred his general merchandise store in Tucson to this new 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:17.906 location and established a much needed ferry across the Salt River and 00:01:17.939 --> 00:01:23.867 therefore it was called Hayden's Ferry. Well now, Miss Hayden, your father 00:01:23.900 --> 00:01:29.236 , uh, went down off the top of the butte and built the mill and built his 00:01:29.269 --> 00:01:31.777 mercantile establishment. And I think you told me that one of the first 00:01:31.810 --> 00:01:36.857 things he did was to put in an orchard. Is that right? Yes, and you had 00:01:36.890 --> 00:01:41.016 citrus and grapes and wonderful things to eat in the middle of what was a 00:01:41.049 --> 00:01:46.617 desert. Well, your father was the most unusual and distinguished man. We 00:01:46.650 --> 00:01:53.007 recall that as the Arizona statesman uh, says in its feature article about 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:58.617 Carl Hayden, his father and your father Charles trumble. Hayden was most 00:01:58.650 --> 00:02:02.947 influential in getting the territorial legislature to establish the 00:02:02.980 --> 00:02:06.837 territorial normal school here in Tempe. And then your father, Miss Hayden 00:02:06.870 --> 00:02:11.936 , if I'm not mistaken, was the first president of the normal school board 00:02:11.969 --> 00:02:15.856 in 18 85. And we have reproduced here on page three of the Arizona 00:02:15.889 --> 00:02:19.927 statesman. The first page of the minutes of that board meeting. Well, now 00:02:19.960 --> 00:02:24.256 , Miss Hayden. Uh, let's go back to the childhood memories we were talking 00:02:24.289 --> 00:02:28.997 to about a while ago. Uh, tell us more about this preaching over the 00:02:29.030 --> 00:02:34.906 funerals for chickens and pets. Did Carl actually do that? Yes, he did. 00:02:34.939 --> 00:02:39.897 All the little fuzzy yellow chickens have died. We buried in the OMT spool 00:02:39.930 --> 00:02:44.647 boxes out of the store and the corner of the patio. Carl preached the 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:51.106 sermon that I was the Mourners. And that was at the old casa. The old 00:02:51.139 --> 00:02:56.277 house called la casa vieja, Is that right sally? Yes, after we moved to 00:02:56.310 --> 00:03:03.807 the ranch that became the old house and later we called it the castle. 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:07.047 What about carl's learning to swim in the salt river? Have you anything to 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:11.617 recall about that? Well, yes, he became a very good swimmer and was very 00:03:11.650 --> 00:03:16.156 proud of the fact that the preacher's always asked him to swim out and see 00:03:16.189 --> 00:03:21.487 if it was safe for them to do their baptizing. And I think you told me 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:27.547 that your brother Carl was a tremendous reader. He was indeed At the age 00:03:27.580 --> 00:03:34.297 of 11. He had read Rick Past History of the World three Volumes. My mother 00:03:34.330 --> 00:03:38.807 never could find him because he was always reading. I think he hit out. 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:43.686 Okay, well those are signs of a future senator. Indeed, Miss Sally Hayden 00:03:43.719 --> 00:03:47.876 , I think you also told me that you would never have gotten through your 00:03:47.909 --> 00:03:51.827 school if you hadn't been able to go to Brother Carl and ask him to help 00:03:51.860 --> 00:03:55.807 you with your reports about the nation and the world. Is that right? Yes. 00:03:55.840 --> 00:03:59.267 Given an assignment, I never looked it up. I always went home and asked 00:03:59.300 --> 00:04:03.906 Carl. I think you would say where did you find that? I'd say Carl told me. 00:04:03.939 --> 00:04:08.876 Well, Karla was also a great debater. He was a debater at the Tempe 00:04:08.909 --> 00:04:13.547 Normal School and when he went to stanford he made the famous cornel 00:04:13.580 --> 00:04:17.897 debate. Or Miss Hayden. Has your brother Carl ever been defeated in a 00:04:17.930 --> 00:04:24.106 political contest? Yes, he has. He was defeated by one vote for president 00:04:24.139 --> 00:04:30.786 of the student body at stanford. That is why he never feels that he's 00:04:30.819 --> 00:04:35.116 elected until all the returns are in, I believe is Carl has put it so many 00:04:35.149 --> 00:04:39.986 times. I always run scared. Well, Miss Sally Hayden, it's been a delight 00:04:40.019 --> 00:04:43.556 to sit here and talk to you as our alumni and many other friends of 00:04:43.589 --> 00:04:49.337 Arizona State listen to the intimate details of your life with Carl Hayden 00:04:49.370 --> 00:04:54.207 , Who is dean of the United States Senate and an alumnus of Arizona State 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:59.827 in Tempe class of 1896 alumni magazine is very proud to have featured Carl 00:04:59.860 --> 00:05:04.000 Hayden in this issue now in the mail.