WEBVTT 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:05.040 Lecture by Policy Larry April 12, 1977 College of Architecture, Arizona 00:00:09.769 --> 00:00:14.906 State University, 00:00:14.939 --> 00:00:19.407 you know where bob is. But I would like to just take a moment. Welcome. 00:00:19.440 --> 00:00:27.006 Almost hilarious. A little answer. Renowned architect 00:00:27.039 --> 00:00:31.186 throughout the world. Just got back from new york and they speak of you on 00:00:31.219 --> 00:00:36.506 your way up. What would you do anywhere else? No, follow the know the work 00:00:36.539 --> 00:00:44.539 of our college. No, about horizonte. All right. Our pleasure today for our 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:52.467 program we have all share his experience market of our college. 00:00:52.500 --> 00:01:00.500 No, around over the wall. All right, thank you. Okay, 00:01:05.439 --> 00:01:12.807 get the lights off. 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:16.007 Right. 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:22.236 There are many slides and I'm going to go fast. Uh huh. At the beginning 00:01:22.269 --> 00:01:26.967 there was only some visual material. There is only they're there because 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:32.346 they might be a an opening visual opening to the program. So there 00:01:32.379 --> 00:01:38.906 wouldn't be explanations, just visual 00:01:38.939 --> 00:01:46.939 impressions 00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:54.417 In in the 50s. And I began to be industry in urban questions relate for 00:01:54.450 --> 00:01:56.507 these. 00:01:56.540 --> 00:02:03.456 This is Rhonda a diagram for some kind of logistical network which would 00:02:03.489 --> 00:02:09.217 base uh, which would be based on an automobile. So an attempt to have more 00:02:09.250 --> 00:02:15.587 fluidity in circulation within tom let's say In the early 60s, through a 00:02:15.620 --> 00:02:21.487 grant, I begin to work on what I call the major city and the difference 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:25.916 between the two is more more inquiries in a number of things included 00:02:25.949 --> 00:02:31.816 environmental impact. So in this case there were many features which later 00:02:31.849 --> 00:02:38.506 on became small, fashionable the closing of cycles like taking the quality 00:02:38.539 --> 00:02:42.467 and then making a quarter which could have got that stick in the back 00:02:42.500 --> 00:02:49.906 there. Thank you 00:02:49.939 --> 00:02:53.106 thank you. 00:02:53.139 --> 00:02:59.057 This is a landscape which would be the outcome of escalating and producing 00:02:59.090 --> 00:03:04.226 materials for the construction like aggregate and other materials and then 00:03:04.259 --> 00:03:09.506 proceeding on with the process or instead of having a some kind of a scar 00:03:09.539 --> 00:03:13.886 on this area, you make a garden out of it, a garden which has its own 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:17.217 geology because it would be the quarrying of this material for 00:03:17.250 --> 00:03:24.256 construction. So this was a closing of a cycle of coming in, disturbing 00:03:24.289 --> 00:03:30.397 the certain balance and transforming site. They were recycling plants 00:03:30.430 --> 00:03:35.177 suggested along the periphery of the community of the city and those will 00:03:35.210 --> 00:03:40.957 be the places where materials will be regenerator or transform like 00:03:40.990 --> 00:03:46.577 garbage, sewage and other things answer that then you can recirculate 00:03:46.610 --> 00:03:51.927 those elements through through industries or farming and so on. In this 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:57.737 scheme there were villages, those around things which were somewhat 00:03:57.770 --> 00:04:00.916 clustered around civic centers and in the civic centers. The villages 00:04:00.949 --> 00:04:05.207 themselves were depending on the metropolitan system which was made of a 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:11.066 one major network of production and consumption in terms of standard 00:04:11.099 --> 00:04:16.726 produce and one smaller one where you had mainly home industries and 00:04:16.759 --> 00:04:23.937 crafts and marketing of them. There was a learning center here from 00:04:23.970 --> 00:04:27.077 secondary school to university and then there was a theological center 00:04:27.110 --> 00:04:32.027 there water was used for transportation for domestic purposes and a 00:04:32.060 --> 00:04:37.007 recycling into farming. It was all hypothetical naturally and it was 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:45.040 designed for a climate Arizona, this was a for me sir, 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:58.337 it was a two dimensional basically. And eventually I decided it wasn't 00:04:58.370 --> 00:05:04.606 acceptable any longer. So I got into the the psychologist And smart 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:09.507 ecology picked up where I left in the 50s, trying to use solar energy in 00:05:09.540 --> 00:05:13.976 connection with other activities. So this was a greenhouse, a black 00:05:14.009 --> 00:05:18.067 surface chimney and the whole thing was incorporated in infrastructure 00:05:18.100 --> 00:05:24.507 which could be could have been a residential offices over terror 00:05:24.540 --> 00:05:30.806 in this cycle. I was, I was working with infrared with winds, with water, 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:35.906 all, all of them solid energy 00:05:35.939 --> 00:05:41.507 elements 00:05:41.540 --> 00:05:44.967 Eventually moved away from there because there was no interest at all 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:51.507 anywhere about solar energy in the 50s, as you I can imagine. 00:05:51.540 --> 00:05:57.467 And then about four years ago when the the gasoline crunch came about, I 00:05:57.500 --> 00:06:02.056 began to work again on, on the question of solar energy and I ended up by 00:06:02.089 --> 00:06:07.166 having a certain notion oh connecting a number of effects within one 00:06:07.199 --> 00:06:12.887 system. And you'll see that later on in this diagram is the program of the 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:18.806 presentation related to this idea of the sun used in a certain structure. 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:26.596 So the ecology is the architectural and ecology notion two sons refers to 00:06:26.629 --> 00:06:30.616 fundamental elements of reality. One is the sun at least in the solar 00:06:30.649 --> 00:06:37.286 system. What is the sun as the originator of a certain condition on this 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:41.827 earth? And here is the mental stuff which is the consequence of this 00:06:41.860 --> 00:06:49.860 process originating through the sun presence. So in this, what we are 00:06:51.120 --> 00:06:54.846 attempting to do here we are, we are telling ourselves that those two 00:06:54.879 --> 00:07:00.176 elements the physical and the metaphysical are fundamental in defining the 00:07:00.209 --> 00:07:06.726 urban context, not a initiation to this process. We are observing a number 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:11.426 of energies. The organic energy, the organic energy, the mental energy in 00:07:11.459 --> 00:07:14.897 an organic energy will see the greenhouse effect, the chimney effect, what 00:07:14.930 --> 00:07:21.156 I call the apps effect in the organic energy will see what I called it as 00:07:21.189 --> 00:07:25.676 a public but it would be really the horticultural effect production of 00:07:25.709 --> 00:07:31.296 food stuff within a greenhouse condition. The mental energy deals with the 00:07:31.329 --> 00:07:35.796 human, social and cultural and this is what I call now the urban effect 00:07:35.829 --> 00:07:41.796 and I will try to explain that uh huh Before I get into this, I'm going to 00:07:41.829 --> 00:07:47.777 go through their colleges as we are trying to do now an empirical example 00:07:47.810 --> 00:07:55.207 of it in Arcosanti. And then quickly some of the first sense of ecologies 00:07:55.240 --> 00:07:59.996 as they appear in the committee book the colleges and then we'll go into 00:08:00.029 --> 00:08:06.056 the psychology which are the transformation of those uh sets into the ones 00:08:06.089 --> 00:08:11.517 which are taking into account more forcefully than the the sun through 00:08:11.550 --> 00:08:19.550 those organic inorganic and mental processes. 00:08:21.589 --> 00:08:27.906 I know many of you have been dr Santee, I will not spend much time on it, 00:08:27.939 --> 00:08:31.087 You can come and visit if you have not been there, this is the land, we 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:37.256 have 860 acres. We are processing about 10 acres of the land to transform 00:08:37.289 --> 00:08:45.009 it into an urban condition and we develop greenhouses on the south slope. 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:47.840 This is the camp we set up about eight years ago and this is where we'll 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:56.960 be building the last six years and a half so 00:08:58.340 --> 00:09:02.006 mr angiography river. 00:09:02.039 --> 00:09:07.896 And the construction was probably, you all know, it was about by engaging 00:09:07.929 --> 00:09:14.207 young people, mostly students that come for six weeks and they work Soon. 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:20.526 I was in 79 hours a day and they help in the construction and also the 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:25.287 finance part of the construction by their own fees. So this is a meeting 00:09:25.320 --> 00:09:31.636 before breakfast probably around june now we match this effort and that 00:09:31.669 --> 00:09:39.669 funding with the work we do in ceramics and metal mean wind bells 00:09:42.740 --> 00:09:46.447 and this is the original model of arcosanti which has been now totally 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:54.480 abandoned in this model. The sun was used basically as a uh has Dick the 00:09:56.860 --> 00:10:01.376 definer of a certain climate in the climate was small, was the defining a 00:10:01.409 --> 00:10:05.187 certain character of the building within the building. There were some 00:10:05.220 --> 00:10:09.967 facets which were referring directly with solar energy. This is naps and 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:14.106 if you expose it to the south, we have a special relationship between the 00:10:14.139 --> 00:10:19.657 sun and the abs which makes for a good use in winter and summer and I'll 00:10:19.690 --> 00:10:25.407 show you later the apps effect 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:30.837 and it shows a little, we have of the amount of building that we intend to 00:10:30.870 --> 00:10:36.776 do, Even though this now has been abandoned. This is a ceramics workspace 00:10:36.809 --> 00:10:40.557 is a foundry, two vaults where we do a number of things, including a 00:10:40.590 --> 00:10:45.667 sandwich of modules, two residences with offices in the building here with 00:10:45.700 --> 00:10:48.407 a four story building 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:53.346 of the old of the old design. So we does some of the elements that you see 00:10:53.379 --> 00:11:01.207 there in blue, including this building. 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:06.567 We set up a camp using concrete to build those cubicles. Then we have an 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:12.947 underground which is a larger building, four meetings and for eating when 00:11:12.980 --> 00:11:18.457 the weather is bad, the building site is there. We began to cultivate some 00:11:18.490 --> 00:11:24.766 of the land to get some vegetables. Uh huh. We have been building this 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:27.506 kind of foundation, 00:11:27.539 --> 00:11:33.467 the bazaar tick look. And this is the view from the, not far from the 00:11:33.500 --> 00:11:37.106 highway about two years ago 00:11:37.139 --> 00:11:40.376 in moving there, we began to use the same some of the techniques, we've 00:11:40.409 --> 00:11:44.697 been using that foundation in Scottsdale, which means take some of the 00:11:44.730 --> 00:11:49.776 materials, local materials and use them as a forming device. So this is 00:11:49.809 --> 00:11:53.207 silt 00:11:53.240 --> 00:12:00.106 and the silt is uh, we get it from the riverbed is packed shaped then 00:12:00.139 --> 00:12:05.207 painted. 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:08.577 So this is one of the modules you see there before the pouring of the 00:12:08.610 --> 00:12:12.667 concrete and this pattern in those colors and some of the texture is going 00:12:12.700 --> 00:12:17.407 to be incorporated in the vault. 00:12:17.440 --> 00:12:22.907 We build a second vote two years ago. Yeah. 00:12:22.940 --> 00:12:27.327 And then we proceeded with with some of the some the structure that we're 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:32.646 using now this is the ceramic space and since it is an abs it works as a 00:12:32.679 --> 00:12:37.307 son, a collector in winter and sunshine in summer and we do the production 00:12:37.340 --> 00:12:39.707 in this area. 00:12:39.740 --> 00:12:46.756 We use the sort as a brake band breaker and that also gives us a texture 00:12:46.789 --> 00:12:53.006 in color which is somehow connecting the building to the ground. 00:12:53.039 --> 00:12:59.707 These are the sale for the same purpose. The fall in the shell. Uh huh. 00:12:59.740 --> 00:13:07.740 Say it again in making the inside of one of the houses, 00:13:08.639 --> 00:13:12.307 the forming of the foundry. 00:13:12.340 --> 00:13:17.337 The very early stage of this forming the finish stage just before the 00:13:17.370 --> 00:13:22.736 reinforcing is put in and then the shell is poured and they found a 00:13:22.769 --> 00:13:27.256 slightly more complex than the ceramic because it has two stories in the 00:13:27.289 --> 00:13:32.026 second story has some uh private spaces, too little apartments with two 00:13:32.059 --> 00:13:37.006 studios in two rooms 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:42.626 there you see the the mold the negative here you see the structure which 00:13:42.659 --> 00:13:47.006 is the positive. 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:50.896 So there's the family, this is where we do the family work proper, this is 00:13:50.929 --> 00:13:54.087 where we do assembling and storage, storing and so on and this is where we 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:58.006 have residential spaces. 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:03.026 Mhm. Mhm. 00:14:03.059 --> 00:14:08.917 This is the first story building. It has a some rooms down here with 00:14:08.950 --> 00:14:13.596 services. Then there's a restaurant on two levels with the services in the 00:14:13.629 --> 00:14:19.907 north side and then there is a an exhibition space on top. 00:14:19.940 --> 00:14:23.776 Now we find out very, very soon that the buildings were interacting with 00:14:23.809 --> 00:14:29.626 the land and very, very well. So we began to have things happening at 00:14:29.659 --> 00:14:34.646 night or humid day like sound and light shows and you can watch from the 00:14:34.679 --> 00:14:38.606 spot on this part where you can go down and watch from the other side of 00:14:38.639 --> 00:14:46.639 the ravine so that eventually will, will become a structural procedure and 00:14:46.940 --> 00:14:50.846 we will have festivals and in fact we have two of them already where you 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:57.506 have people all over the place watching, listening and participating in 00:14:57.539 --> 00:15:05.006 and a little of activities. Mhm Mhm 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:13.039 landscaping between the restaurant and family and the ceramics, 00:15:13.139 --> 00:15:17.807 the inside of the restaurant. 00:15:17.840 --> 00:15:24.126 This wasn't one of the three days of festivities last year and we have 00:15:24.159 --> 00:15:29.787 things going on in each building, some demonstrations in crafts, music or 00:15:29.820 --> 00:15:36.657 mimes and so on and then exhibition of crafts within this building. And 00:15:36.690 --> 00:15:39.707 then we set up a stage 00:15:39.740 --> 00:15:46.136 down Levine and we were able to have many thousands of people watching the 00:15:46.169 --> 00:15:50.317 performance at night watching the performance of the on stage and also the 00:15:50.350 --> 00:15:56.707 performance of what is there of the town. Now 00:15:56.740 --> 00:16:04.407 A little that building in the back of the two votes. 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:08.496 This is what eventually is going to be a regular theater And this is the 00:16:08.529 --> 00:16:12.927 larger than 50th which can take many thousands of people up to 50, 60 or 00:16:12.960 --> 00:16:20.960 more 1000. 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:28.106 This site is open seven days a week. We are told to 11 and two if you're 00:16:28.139 --> 00:16:36.139 instead this is the falco group from new york performing 00:16:36.340 --> 00:16:39.207 and this is the 00:16:39.240 --> 00:16:45.067 the swimming pool which has now been, has been cast. The uniting has been 00:16:45.100 --> 00:16:52.467 done and it's in such a position in such a sight as to take in the warm 00:16:52.500 --> 00:16:55.246 air coming from a greenhouse which is going to be the main greenhouse 00:16:55.279 --> 00:17:00.356 sloping on this south slope. The hardware will to the chimney effect will 00:17:00.389 --> 00:17:05.306 go through under the swim pool through those gates and would accept it 00:17:05.339 --> 00:17:09.437 along this cliff. The cliff itself is going to work a little like a heat 00:17:09.470 --> 00:17:17.107 sink. 00:17:17.140 --> 00:17:21.127 Now I'm going to go very fast also through the first part of their 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:27.607 colleges, the first generation ecology as they called him. 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:31.107 Mhm 00:17:31.140 --> 00:17:37.286 Which would be this the application of some of those notions in early in 00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:43.086 the 60s this was a floating system with subsystems which would be where 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:48.236 you are rest from the sea and new process, chemical minerals or whatever 00:17:48.269 --> 00:17:53.576 foodstuff and eventually those, the system can cluster in a number of them 00:17:53.609 --> 00:17:58.207 and then you would have an urban ribbon tying everything together. 00:17:58.240 --> 00:18:02.967 Fundamental is the idea that whatever we go to exploit the earth, we 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:08.207 should also try to develop a certain culture connected with this process 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:16.240 so that we, we don't go there just as a technocrats but as human beings, 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:29.897 those are similar ideas developed in somehow different kind of mold. Uh 00:18:29.930 --> 00:18:33.006 huh 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:41.039 an idea for a dam which by design could be made into an habitat. So you 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:45.657 you don't have to alter very much of a structural system with them. You 00:18:45.690 --> 00:18:49.697 just perforate them and make it make deeper blades, let's say so that you 00:18:49.730 --> 00:18:54.417 can take care of the structural needs. But at the same time you could come 00:18:54.450 --> 00:18:57.647 out with what you might call a full fledged community if the dam is large 00:18:57.680 --> 00:19:02.347 enough of that. If the aim is smaller, you could come up with something 00:19:02.380 --> 00:19:10.006 smaller like a resort, what a hotel, whatever 00:19:10.039 --> 00:19:16.407 if you have is much larger than you can develop a metropolitan center. If 00:19:16.440 --> 00:19:20.717 the interesting thing is that you have water for power for irrigation, for 00:19:20.750 --> 00:19:26.647 domestic purposes, for recreation. So you have a very specific INGE 00:19:26.680 --> 00:19:31.496 ecological INGE which could be very interesting. 00:19:31.529 --> 00:19:34.976 Those are rough models of some of the more detailed models of other 00:19:35.009 --> 00:19:42.887 ecologies. This refers to the idea for 17,000 People, these 30,800 and 00:19:42.920 --> 00:19:47.236 some 1000 200, sometimes in less than half a million. Those are very 00:19:47.269 --> 00:19:52.717 abstract concepts. They are trying only to suggest what could happen if 00:19:52.750 --> 00:19:56.117 you introduce the true dimension within the system, this is in paris state 00:19:56.150 --> 00:20:00.107 building on the same scale. 00:20:00.140 --> 00:20:04.516 And the interesting point is that there is so much talk about mega 00:20:04.549 --> 00:20:08.026 structures but what we are doing is to work for the sake of mini structure 00:20:08.059 --> 00:20:13.076 , not mega structures. This would take place of a village or a town of 00:20:13.109 --> 00:20:20.207 maybe 10 15 sq mi. But this is only a quarter of a square mile properly 00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:26.816 with a certain dept. So you're substituting a mega mega system which is a 00:20:26.849 --> 00:20:31.086 Tempe phoenix, Los Angeles with a mini system which is a three dimensional 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:37.467 landscape. Uh huh. And this is very important because deals again with the 00:20:37.500 --> 00:20:42.677 difference between the gigantic and performing This is the interior of the 00:20:42.710 --> 00:20:49.457 30,000. It could be a village for farmers and the interior will be mainly 00:20:49.490 --> 00:20:54.496 commercial, public and so on. While the exteriors would be where the 00:20:54.529 --> 00:20:58.207 private spaces with development, 00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:01.207 This was a larger one. 00:21:01.240 --> 00:21:05.457 You can also connect yourself with outside. Almost instantaneous. A few 00:21:05.490 --> 00:21:12.207 minutes you will be out in a countryside that suggests that 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:17.687 life will become richer. You have less waste in trying to connect and to 00:21:17.720 --> 00:21:23.377 join or to separate yourself from other things and other people. Also the 00:21:23.410 --> 00:21:27.336 services will become smaller because you're dealing again with a mini mini 00:21:27.369 --> 00:21:31.617 condition instead of a mega condition. That means that eventually even the 00:21:31.650 --> 00:21:37.306 bureaucratic machines can be cut down to size 00:21:37.339 --> 00:21:40.276 the automobile would be would be stopped at the edge of the city because 00:21:40.309 --> 00:21:45.157 there are no roads within the context of the on the habitat. So there is 00:21:45.190 --> 00:21:49.937 no possibility for the automobile to penetrate inside of it, which means 00:21:49.970 --> 00:21:54.617 you move from the, from the automobile scaled to the human scale, the 00:21:54.650 --> 00:21:59.207 person, the legs and so on. 00:21:59.240 --> 00:22:04.407 Oh 00:22:04.440 --> 00:22:10.107 mm, if the idea or the linear city was adopted 00:22:10.140 --> 00:22:14.286 an advance, you will be that by by maintaining defense, vertical dimension 00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:18.717 within reasonable distance is like, let's say two or three miles, you 00:22:18.750 --> 00:22:22.806 would then be able to very quickly connect with the main logistical 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:27.506 network which would be at the center. 00:22:27.539 --> 00:22:29.976 You will be able to connect with the institution of the city, the urban 00:22:30.009 --> 00:22:34.667 condition depending on where you are within the many villages or towns or 00:22:34.700 --> 00:22:38.256 see the connected with the main logistical system and also you will be 00:22:38.289 --> 00:22:45.687 directly able to move out of that kind of condition and move into the open 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:47.707 landscape. 00:22:47.740 --> 00:22:52.286 If that dimension is not respected, then you get, you end up by having the 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:57.076 eastern seaboard with all the troubles that it has the western seaboard 00:22:57.109 --> 00:23:00.107 with all the trouble that is developing 00:23:00.140 --> 00:23:03.766 it continue waited with demand, possibly some bridging and this is 00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:10.697 indication of suggestions of the structure bridging river canyon 00:23:10.730 --> 00:23:15.917 and last in this series An airport which becomes a town of about one 00:23:15.950 --> 00:23:20.776 million population and this is the town about one half kilometers in 00:23:20.809 --> 00:23:24.927 diameter is surrounded by a green belt and the green belt are industries 00:23:24.960 --> 00:23:29.086 in the industries are connected with taxing link which is where the 00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:33.857 aircraft would be pulled in or pulled away from and then it would turn on 00:23:33.890 --> 00:23:38.266 the engine and take off or landing according to the, to the wind, to the 00:23:38.299 --> 00:23:41.867 wind pattern. What you would have is that you learn practically in the 00:23:41.900 --> 00:23:47.427 center of the city, you never fly above the city and you will make the 00:23:47.460 --> 00:23:51.347 city into a place instead of being a known place, which is what the 00:23:51.380 --> 00:23:57.207 airport is now. 00:23:57.240 --> 00:24:04.457 For this mini system. We show the distances in feet and in minutes to 00:24:04.490 --> 00:24:08.746 indicate swiftness that you can obtain when you're dealing not with a 00:24:08.779 --> 00:24:16.779 gigantic but with my note 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:21.766 Now, I'm getting into the more difficult part of the presentation which is 00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:25.806 trying to explain the urban effect. 00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:29.306 And I begin from the very beginning, 00:24:29.339 --> 00:24:35.677 which is I attempt to suggest a certain evolutionary process. I had to 00:24:35.710 --> 00:24:40.016 promise that I believe in evolution. So you're an evolutionary process 00:24:40.049 --> 00:24:44.086 which is, let's say, a certain point of origin and then the development of 00:24:44.119 --> 00:24:49.627 what we call the cosmos. So this is we tend to believe at this point that 00:24:49.660 --> 00:24:52.576 this is a deterministic condition, optimistic way, the mass energy 00:24:52.609 --> 00:24:57.036 universe. So we have a genesis of this cosmo cosmo genesis a universal 00:24:57.069 --> 00:25:02.316 indifference. All those relative characteristics. You can say that this 00:25:02.349 --> 00:25:06.576 cosmos is insensitive, structural Simula ble, predictable, granular, 00:25:06.609 --> 00:25:10.806 statistical, rational and entropic 00:25:10.839 --> 00:25:15.437 because of the presence of this genesis of this process. Somewhere, 00:25:15.470 --> 00:25:20.256 certainly in one point in the universe we have the genesis of the life the 00:25:20.289 --> 00:25:24.357 genetic wait a biological universe. The biogenesis, it is the unions of 00:25:24.390 --> 00:25:29.597 the universe of innocence. If you see it a proto human before the mind 00:25:29.630 --> 00:25:34.857 developed and the conscience developed. So it is social and corporate, 00:25:34.890 --> 00:25:38.887 cooperative sensitized, no symbol selective, irreversible revolutionary 00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:44.137 duration or unconscious and instinctual. This gave birth again, at least 00:25:44.170 --> 00:25:49.326 in one place which is the earth on to a new kind of phenomenon. New 00:25:49.359 --> 00:25:52.717 because of the some kind of a quantum jump. And you have the cultural way 00:25:52.750 --> 00:25:57.806 the human university of the genesis. It is cultural, cooperative, social 00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:00.006 uh huh. 00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:04.207 Wasn't 00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:07.857 compassionate, non, seem edible, willful, irreversible evolutionary 00:26:07.890 --> 00:26:12.476 duration or conscious and mental the universe of conscience. Now, if you 00:26:12.509 --> 00:26:15.486 start to consider all those characteristics and then you you refer them to 00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:19.157 the problem of the habitat of the human habitat. You find out quite 00:26:19.190 --> 00:26:25.286 quickly our fundamental all of those items are and how differently we 00:26:25.319 --> 00:26:29.586 might look at the city. Once we really seriously investigate what that 00:26:29.619 --> 00:26:37.619 might mean, I extrapolate, I make a projection that if this process keeps 00:26:38.589 --> 00:26:42.036 going eventually have the sacramental way the divine universe, the T. O. 00:26:42.069 --> 00:26:45.847 Genesis it is a static resurrection of total izing loving reversible and 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:51.996 similar ones in tropic. The universal transcendence In this process which 00:26:52.029 --> 00:26:59.367 can be tagged uh maybe 12, 15 billions of years in here, perhaps 3.5 or 00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:04.026 four billions of years. For the for the biogenesis perhaps two or three 00:27:04.059 --> 00:27:08.506 millions of years for the human genesis you have a big question mark. Or 00:27:08.539 --> 00:27:14.266 what might be the next step which would be the transformation to the whole 00:27:14.299 --> 00:27:19.736 of the universe into a divine condition. But anyhow, even if you leave 00:27:19.769 --> 00:27:24.127 that last part out, you see that in this process, you begin with a 00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:28.296 relatively simple condition and you end up with a very complex condition. 00:27:28.329 --> 00:27:33.687 The human the human conscience, you begin with a very scattered and 00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:39.967 somehow yeah statistical process and you end up with a willful and very 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:46.786 central process. You move from ignorance, knowledge, remove from 00:27:46.819 --> 00:27:52.226 segregation to integration and so on, and he does it again, this tells us 00:27:52.259 --> 00:27:56.207 something very crucial about the nature of the city. 00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:58.407 If 00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:02.236 if you try to make this diagram in something slightly more dynamic and you 00:28:02.269 --> 00:28:05.667 accept the idea of the Big Bang, you could say that the original 00:28:05.700 --> 00:28:11.187 university, you have this super item that breaks up breaks up and it's a 00:28:11.220 --> 00:28:17.066 media which somehow I define as pure media and I'm suggesting that this 00:28:17.099 --> 00:28:22.476 media eventually will become pure message through a process of explosion 00:28:22.509 --> 00:28:27.117 first an implosion later. And this process would see this media transform 00:28:27.150 --> 00:28:31.127 itself into a message. It will be a reality going out as matter and coming 00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:36.586 in as a spirit. No, this is not a fantasy because this is happening under 00:28:36.619 --> 00:28:41.097 our eyes has been happening for about 4.5 billions of years, which is 00:28:41.130 --> 00:28:45.197 again, this process of matter becoming something modern matter, even 00:28:45.230 --> 00:28:49.907 spirit 00:28:49.940 --> 00:28:57.437 in trying to explain who, why the complex and the miniaturized are the 00:28:57.470 --> 00:29:04.036 fundamental characteristics of this process. I take the seed as a As a 00:29:04.069 --> 00:29:07.427 proposition. And I said, if you plant the seed, you eventually see the 00:29:07.460 --> 00:29:13.197 development of a three according to a certain genetic metrics. Well, If 00:29:13.230 --> 00:29:17.097 you could shrink this the pace of if you accelerate the pace of this 00:29:17.130 --> 00:29:21.316 process so that you develop in five minutes, what you might might take 50 00:29:21.349 --> 00:29:27.397 years, let's say. You would see very clearly, visually, tangibly what 00:29:27.430 --> 00:29:32.506 what's happening and what's happening is that the cosmos 00:29:32.539 --> 00:29:39.836 gives in and furnishes elements of its own to define the organism. So it's 00:29:39.869 --> 00:29:44.847 an implosion. It's a miniaturization. It's an interior ization. It is a 00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:48.506 process of complex ification that happens, you have minerals coming from 00:29:48.539 --> 00:29:53.776 the front of soil, in water coming from the soil distances which are from 00:29:53.809 --> 00:29:58.976 centimeters to kilometers, and organizing themselves in very special ways 00:29:59.009 --> 00:30:07.009 to come up with the organism. And you have energy from the air, in form of 00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:13.246 solar energy coming from thousands, millions of miles incoming again. And 00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:18.707 working out the organism, the tree. So the tree stands as an implosive, 00:30:18.740 --> 00:30:26.740 miniaturizing complex defying in a motivated system. The organism in any 00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:32.867 living system somehow protects the characteristics so you move from the 00:30:32.900 --> 00:30:40.707 scattered the simple, the undirected into the directed the complex, the 00:30:40.740 --> 00:30:47.127 willful and so on. Now, instead of a three, you can have a human being, 00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:49.917 instead of a human being, you can have a society and you can have a town, 00:30:49.950 --> 00:30:55.296 a village, metropolitan system, and so on. So what what is meaningful and 00:30:55.329 --> 00:30:59.097 fundamental for this organism is fundamental for any kind of another kind 00:30:59.130 --> 00:31:03.897 of organism, including the possibility of a final organism which would be 00:31:03.930 --> 00:31:09.016 the final seed, which would be the synopsis of everything which has never 00:31:09.049 --> 00:31:13.006 existed anywhere anytime. And this would be a good idea of divinity 00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:18.316 because divinity would be the trans complex transit duration, Alexa et 00:31:18.349 --> 00:31:21.506 cetera. 00:31:21.539 --> 00:31:29.539 Mhm. Mhm. I don't think we have time for stay with those things. 00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:37.256 Maybe very quickly if you have two coordinates and one your complexity and 00:31:37.289 --> 00:31:42.947 they're only your miniaturization and you try to define that situation 00:31:42.980 --> 00:31:48.086 where life can develop within a balanced condition. And you might find out 00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:55.316 that yeah, the duration als and and the evolutionary stance. Um between 00:31:55.349 --> 00:32:00.427 those two. Which means that if you're a tendency to miniaturize without 00:32:00.460 --> 00:32:05.207 introducing element of complexity, you end up with with the complicated we 00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:07.986 have a congestion which some of us is suggested by some of the 00:32:08.019 --> 00:32:13.427 technocratic developments. The computer complicated. So these will 00:32:13.460 --> 00:32:20.506 represent the area where technology as the the edge. By the same token, if 00:32:20.539 --> 00:32:26.286 you have a complexity, we tend to ignore the physical demands of life. You 00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:30.076 end up in a condition which could be suggested by the idea of Nirvana. 00:32:30.109 --> 00:32:38.109 Where somehow you you try to return to a condition which consumes you as 00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:44.246 an individual into this sea of a of nothingness, which seems to be the 00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:51.826 goal. So on one side you have too much mind and not enough support systems 00:32:51.859 --> 00:32:58.207 on your side you have too many support systems and the mine dwindles. Mhm. 00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:01.907 Mhm. Mhm. 00:33:01.940 --> 00:33:08.097 To come down to a real closer what those things might mean in terms of the 00:33:08.130 --> 00:33:13.316 ecology and uh what they might the ecology might do in the direction of 00:33:13.349 --> 00:33:17.207 solving the many problems that we have. I say here that the ecological 00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:21.556 commitment is dispensable for the alleviation of ecological crisis. The 00:33:21.589 --> 00:33:25.556 really mentioning of the use of water, land and air, the reduction of 00:33:25.589 --> 00:33:29.236 pollution caused by technological societies. The perception of the natural 00:33:29.269 --> 00:33:33.316 waist affluence and affluence and operates A reasonable shelter. Humane on 00:33:33.349 --> 00:33:39.097 his way to 678, 10, who knows how many billions revolutionary problem, 00:33:39.130 --> 00:33:42.056 energy depletion, distribution and consumption, resolution of problems, 00:33:42.089 --> 00:33:46.187 segregation of people things and activities, responding to the question of 00:33:46.220 --> 00:33:50.917 child of the gigantic bureaucratic and the remote and so on. Of all of 00:33:50.950 --> 00:33:55.357 those. One very crucial is the segregation. It's not just segregation of 00:33:55.390 --> 00:34:01.407 blood types or religious sectors or the segregation of activities of the 00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:09.440 of institutions of yeah, groups of performances and so on. But naturally 00:34:09.809 --> 00:34:15.197 they are all connected with what meaning life might have. Ultimately, if 00:34:15.230 --> 00:34:23.106 we try to fit our niche within the evolutionary process. Mhm. 00:34:23.139 --> 00:34:27.367 Now coming down to the Tucson psychology as I was saying, we are trying to 00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:31.247 cluster a number of effects around the fundamental effect which is the 00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:39.280 urban effect. And we are using the greenhouse the horticultural effect the 00:34:39.789 --> 00:34:42.657 apps affair which are all in a straight a little more later on, but you 00:34:42.690 --> 00:34:45.907 can see that what basically what it is if you have an apps or a truncated 00:34:45.940 --> 00:34:50.276 cone is facing south, the summer sun which is the one that you don't care 00:34:50.309 --> 00:34:56.026 very much for it will be will be limited in its own uh access to the this 00:34:56.059 --> 00:34:59.907 area which is including the structure which is a very good area for work 00:34:59.940 --> 00:35:05.387 in a winter. You are the opposite. The sun is able to penetrate and warm 00:35:05.420 --> 00:35:09.856 up this area. The chimney effect connected with the greenhouse effect has 00:35:09.889 --> 00:35:16.506 some important advantages to effort 00:35:16.539 --> 00:35:19.206 and uh 00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:22.747 you have those for effects to that. To those four, you can have another 00:35:22.780 --> 00:35:26.447 one which is the ability of the structure to accumulate it and give it 00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:29.947 back when the temperature of the air becomes lower than the temperature of 00:35:29.980 --> 00:35:33.947 the structure. So that's the heat sink effect. So we have those four plus 00:35:33.980 --> 00:35:37.856 that hit sync effect which we are trying to organize around the urban 00:35:37.889 --> 00:35:44.327 effect And going back to the urban effects at the moment. I call it I call 00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:48.206 the urban effect, that phenomenon which is represented by a number of 00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:52.566 characteristics and some of the list of the uh intensity synergy, 00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:56.347 consciousness, transcendence, frugality, sensitivity, beauty, knowledge, 00:35:56.380 --> 00:36:01.697 interdependence, coordination, compassion, cooperation, etcetera, etcetera. 00:36:01.730 --> 00:36:05.637 Those are those are kind of physics which are embryonic li appearing even 00:36:05.670 --> 00:36:09.146 at the beginning of life. So at the very first beginning you have an open 00:36:09.179 --> 00:36:17.006 condition. The virus is a city. It happens to be a highly organized uh 00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:22.836 environment phenomenon. And this phenomenon has synergy intensity at the 00:36:22.869 --> 00:36:25.577 beginning of a consciousness at the beginning of transcendence, frugality 00:36:25.610 --> 00:36:31.166 , sensitivity etcetera etcetera. So whatever it is true for even the early 00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:37.097 phenomenal phenomenal lives is also true for the late commerce the city. 00:36:37.130 --> 00:36:44.887 Now if you carry on this idea of evolution, you could point at a certain 00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:50.126 element of perfection and that has been called in many ways I use the term 00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:55.597 logos here. It could be a divinity or Mhm. A total loss or whatever 00:36:55.630 --> 00:36:59.896 depending on your propensities. 00:36:59.929 --> 00:37:03.316 But the fundamental thing is that we're not dealing with the city 00:37:03.349 --> 00:37:08.637 something as a fringe action of uh of a species, the human species. We're 00:37:08.670 --> 00:37:12.236 dealing with the urban effect as the fundamental and crucial guideline 00:37:12.269 --> 00:37:17.347 which seems to be guiding the process of the simple becoming complex of 00:37:17.380 --> 00:37:22.657 the unconscious becoming conscious and so on. Now if we are able to 00:37:22.690 --> 00:37:28.166 coordinate those five effects around this effect urban effect, then we are 00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:32.177 saying here that we would have definitely saving on resources on land, 00:37:32.210 --> 00:37:36.456 water, time, minerals, energy etcetera etcetera. We will be able to cut on 00:37:36.489 --> 00:37:40.796 pollution segregation, waste bigness bureaucracies, isolation alienation 00:37:40.829 --> 00:37:45.316 and we would be in a better position to to get into learning into 00:37:45.349 --> 00:37:51.197 integrity into region to help into identification corporation etcetera. 00:37:51.230 --> 00:37:56.166 And in our very small ways with a very very limited knowledge, we are 00:37:56.199 --> 00:38:03.217 trying to exactly to do this. Take those five effects plus one. Mhm. And 00:38:03.250 --> 00:38:09.267 this is a very elementary application of this notion greenhouse which is 00:38:09.300 --> 00:38:14.686 sloping along here. This is an indio in the greenhouse as a multicultural 00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:21.787 experimentation and maybe some fish culture, agriculture. And then at the 00:38:21.820 --> 00:38:25.307 end of this slope which goes for the for the gym effect, you might have 00:38:25.340 --> 00:38:31.646 the embryonic character of the town where you have some class class work 00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:37.787 exhibitions, meeting places and so on. 00:38:37.820 --> 00:38:43.407 To recapitulate those five effects, you begin with the greenhouse which is 00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:48.517 flat horizontal, You slammed the greenhouse. So you have this chimney 00:38:48.550 --> 00:38:53.727 ability of the greenhouse to ventilate itself. You can you can put a house 00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:57.686 inside of the greenhouse or you can make the greenhouse into a dome and 00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:02.367 build facilities inside of it. I don't think it works very well, but it's 00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:07.427 done. You you take a greenhouse and you make it into a black sun collector. 00:39:07.460 --> 00:39:10.907 You can connect it more directly into the structure and have a little 00:39:10.940 --> 00:39:15.407 more integrity in you design. You can take both characteristics in both 00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:19.126 ability of producing food and producing heat. And you can have this 00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:22.546 diagram, you can slap the greenhouse to take advantage of the chimney 00:39:22.579 --> 00:39:28.867 effect. You can take the house and then decide that since the man is a 00:39:28.900 --> 00:39:34.517 fundamental social animal and since life it doesn't move toward the simple 00:39:34.550 --> 00:39:38.526 moves to the complex, you might want to organize the community into a 00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:42.456 fairly organized system. So when you connect the community with the 00:39:42.489 --> 00:39:47.566 greenhouse sloping, etcetera, you take the community and you introduce the 00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:52.206 notion of the of the apps effect. And you come up with this diagram that 00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:57.086 you see develop into the models. Now here, as I was saying, you want to 00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:02.046 add the ability of the structure which is sizable though it's not a mega 00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:06.637 structure. If you compare it to what it takes place of, you accumulate 00:40:06.670 --> 00:40:10.436 energy. So this has the sink effect ability. In addition, you can have 00:40:10.469 --> 00:40:14.916 some sink effect along with the other systems. So here it's what you have 00:40:14.949 --> 00:40:21.376 the six effect effects coordinated into under one system. 00:40:21.409 --> 00:40:29.409 The apps effect to show how it works on the spot. This is an apps, the 00:40:29.579 --> 00:40:35.296 ceramic saps in one midday in the winter, probably close to the this 00:40:35.329 --> 00:40:43.329 winter. So is this, This was around 10 or 11:00 AM, 00:40:45.389 --> 00:40:50.776 the same date, you see the sun penetrating. 00:40:50.809 --> 00:40:55.077 And then in the summer you you reverse the process. You see this shading 00:40:55.110 --> 00:40:59.807 on the floor. In fact, early in the morning, you have a shading that goes 00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:04.276 beyond the outer limits of the structure. 00:41:04.309 --> 00:41:10.276 So that's the difference in the winter, the summer condition. 00:41:10.309 --> 00:41:17.316 This is a winter shot Now in developing the two sons psychology. I as I 00:41:17.349 --> 00:41:22.106 was saying, I somehow basically looked at those five effects and try to 00:41:22.139 --> 00:41:26.997 organize them into one system. So this indicates in section a greenhouse 00:41:27.030 --> 00:41:34.856 and the main structure which is now suggestive of the apps effect. 00:41:34.889 --> 00:41:40.637 And this design was augmented. This efficiency was augmented by awnings 00:41:40.670 --> 00:41:43.477 that could be used in summer. 00:41:43.510 --> 00:41:49.646 But what we ended up with was this this diagram two blades in this case 00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:53.697 truncated cones connected by a main garden, which is a greenhouse of many 00:41:53.730 --> 00:42:01.730 stories and then on the south side of the apron apron, the greenhouses. 00:42:03.099 --> 00:42:08.467 So we made a whole model three years ago and we exposed to the sun machine. 00:42:08.500 --> 00:42:15.066 This is March, the spring equinox mhm 00:42:15.099 --> 00:42:20.657 december early in the morning, june early in the morning and by comparing 00:42:20.690 --> 00:42:26.986 them, we saw how well the structure response as a apps effect to the to 00:42:27.019 --> 00:42:32.416 the impact of the sun penetration of the sun. This has to be seen as 00:42:32.449 --> 00:42:38.666 shaded also because the roof would become shaded in the summer. 00:42:38.699 --> 00:42:43.166 Later on, we got some help from the bicentennial from the xerox. So we 00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:46.376 were able to develop a number of models in a number of diagrams showing 00:42:46.409 --> 00:42:51.586 the the sun intake, the energy accumulation and what you might need 00:42:51.619 --> 00:42:54.756 depending on the climate or where you are or the amount of greenhouse that 00:42:54.789 --> 00:43:00.657 you have as an auxiliary source of it. So this is the greenhouses which 00:43:00.690 --> 00:43:05.467 are producing food and energy and they feed part of the energy in winter 00:43:05.500 --> 00:43:09.767 to the buildings. The buildings themselves have this big greenhouse 00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:16.146 connecting the two. We developed some for specific places. This is in a 00:43:16.179 --> 00:43:20.117 specific bay, not far from Washington, there was a slope over the south. 00:43:20.150 --> 00:43:23.066 So we developed the greenhouses, the two blades which have been 00:43:23.099 --> 00:43:25.967 straightened in this case 00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:30.827 and the slot faces the south and it's just water which would take the 00:43:30.860 --> 00:43:33.247 winter sunshine. 00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:41.280 It will be very easily shaded in the summer. 00:43:41.500 --> 00:43:46.847 This was for a climate in Nevada, not Nevada where the slope was a 00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:51.506 terrorist and then covered with a membrane and this membrane would carry 00:43:51.539 --> 00:43:59.539 on into the town about five or 6000 people. If anyone, 00:44:03.789 --> 00:44:06.876 if you take a call and you straight and you might come out with this 00:44:06.909 --> 00:44:11.477 diagram which somehow is the same kind of ability to respond winter and 00:44:11.510 --> 00:44:19.510 summer. 00:44:22.389 --> 00:44:30.389 This was an idea for a regina in Saskatchewan will have a train depot real 00:44:31.070 --> 00:44:34.456 deep, which is going to be dismantled. 00:44:34.489 --> 00:44:38.936 So this acreage was given to the town for developing something and we 00:44:38.969 --> 00:44:44.767 suggested this civic center which would be a mix of residential spaces and 00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:50.186 offices and other things. So smaller ecology and under the main storage 00:44:50.219 --> 00:44:55.296 place, you will develop uh like a slope and on the slope you would have 00:44:55.329 --> 00:44:59.137 the greenhouses and in this case since the climate is very, is very rigid 00:44:59.170 --> 00:45:07.170 , 60 below in winter, constantly windy. But lots of sunshine. It's not of 00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:13.157 this approach was the deal. 00:45:13.190 --> 00:45:18.947 Mhm. Another idea for a political climate where you you're counting anoxia 00:45:18.980 --> 00:45:26.517 resource of energy like burning of uh timber left industry left towards so 00:45:26.550 --> 00:45:29.876 that you generate heat in the greenhouses at the same time, you take the 00:45:29.909 --> 00:45:35.447 sunshine with it when it comes and you develop an outdoor which would be 00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:40.736 somehow accessible to the population. We live around some psychological 00:45:40.769 --> 00:45:48.769 would have been very important 00:45:50.989 --> 00:45:55.836 uh that you have a dime which somehow as a as a shape, it's in a way idea 00:45:55.869 --> 00:46:01.097 of this application. If the dam is facing south, we had the slope with the 00:46:01.130 --> 00:46:06.146 greenhouses and development of structure. 00:46:06.179 --> 00:46:13.847 Okay, 00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:21.646 those were always sketches full does. I'm so down sketches. 00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:25.686 This is a village that ended up by imagining in India because we had a 00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:29.267 young architect from India and he got very excited about developing its 00:46:29.300 --> 00:46:35.026 own village. So he made a model and it's the same the same diagram, the 00:46:35.059 --> 00:46:40.117 two structures connected by the main inner garden and in the greenhouses 00:46:40.150 --> 00:46:48.150 on the south slope. Uh huh 00:46:50.780 --> 00:46:56.907 A floating structure that would show again the greenhouses, lots of going 00:46:56.940 --> 00:47:03.086 on their storage and industry perhaps in the township with its own inner 00:47:03.119 --> 00:47:08.137 garden. And since it's floating would be very easy to turn it and for the 00:47:08.170 --> 00:47:14.646 sun synchronized with the sun cycles, we suggest an introduction of ice 00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:21.157 iceberg then that would furnish water, fresh water for greenhouse working 00:47:21.190 --> 00:47:26.186 from the for domestic purposes. It could also be a good system for 00:47:26.219 --> 00:47:31.117 refrigeration in the summer and it could be a hell of a playground 00:47:31.150 --> 00:47:37.146 dimensional playground for for the town. 00:47:37.179 --> 00:47:45.179 And Many years ago in the 50s, I I was working on this idea of a capsule 00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:50.887 which has been put in a book, it rotates on this axis or you have an 00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:54.767 inside, you have a local gravity, you stand inside of this landscape which 00:47:54.800 --> 00:48:00.956 is a green landscape. This was picked up by general Neil and developed 00:48:00.989 --> 00:48:08.106 into the space colonies and then I was asked to respond to his design. So 00:48:08.139 --> 00:48:13.097 I responded with the paper and also with a model and the mother is the 00:48:13.130 --> 00:48:16.796 same idea, but it's far more complex. It has seven landscapes instead of 00:48:16.829 --> 00:48:24.436 one. Each one has a slightly different gravity conditions 00:48:24.469 --> 00:48:27.436 and that's the model 00:48:27.469 --> 00:48:33.456 and the real reason for doing this and believing that eventually we'll do 00:48:33.489 --> 00:48:38.247 it. It's a theological reason. It's again, the notion that since we seem 00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:43.006 to be partaking in this person of making matter into spirit and we are 00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:48.166 that exactly. Eventually this process cannot be cannot be limited to the 00:48:48.199 --> 00:48:53.217 earth, which is a tiny little splinter in a tiny little screen too, of the 00:48:53.250 --> 00:48:56.747 cosmos. So eventually we would be moving out to try to cooperate with 00:48:56.780 --> 00:49:02.747 other sources of spirit in developing the cosmos. So this would be a one 00:49:02.780 --> 00:49:08.077 of the steps in going out this idea of having herb or urban centers in 00:49:08.110 --> 00:49:13.077 space and in this diagram, there are many landscapes. This is the urban 00:49:13.110 --> 00:49:16.106 landscape, there's a green landscape here, there's a water landscape there 00:49:16.139 --> 00:49:22.436 , there's a little escape which is on top of the, 00:49:22.469 --> 00:49:30.469 the urban landscape, there is a A zero gravity environment there. 00:49:39.969 --> 00:49:44.876 And this is the quick model we made for the Xerox exhibit of arcosanti. 00:49:44.909 --> 00:49:48.856 You see the buildings, existing buildings there. In addition, there was a 00:49:48.889 --> 00:49:55.637 building that has been decided for a the the center confidence center 00:49:55.670 --> 00:50:02.376 and then this model was developed with more time into the model that you 00:50:02.409 --> 00:50:07.927 see now, 00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:14.206 which is the London and I was exhibited at Macy's in san Francisco. Uh huh. 00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:17.927 This is the stopper, we will have the greenhouses doesn't building which 00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:20.126 are existing 00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:24.166 And this is a 25 story building which is as the characteristics of the 200 00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:27.637 colleges with a big slot facing south and the connection with the 00:50:27.670 --> 00:50:32.577 greenhouses. What would happen is that in the winter you have, you have an 00:50:32.610 --> 00:50:37.847 updraft of energy being produced here and being fed throughout the 00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:41.486 building, including the energy that comes through there In the summer, you 00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:46.086 would have intakes on the top greenhouse and you would have evaporative 00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:51.936 cooling on along the building. And this property cooling would would cause 00:50:51.969 --> 00:50:57.367 the air to become heavier and cooler and the air drop by gravity through 00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:02.597 the building. So even updraft, warm air through the winter, downdraft, 00:51:02.630 --> 00:51:07.236 cool air to the during the summer basically, that's what we're working at 00:51:07.269 --> 00:51:15.269 , which means a passive system for the the whole building. 00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:21.927 This is Northeast. You 00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:26.646 we were trying to to show inside because this floor is a very fundamental 00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:31.037 one. It goes for the character of the town itself and all the activities 00:51:31.070 --> 00:51:36.526 are going on at this level and funeral levels. But we haven't got there 00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:44.559 the good photos yet. 00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:54.747 Uh This is the end or those those are showing that we need people 00:51:54.780 --> 00:51:58.916 naturally and we are constantly recruiting 00:51:58.949 --> 00:52:05.017 and if we don't get people, we we are in troubles. 00:52:05.050 --> 00:52:09.537 Uh Well maybe I got very quickly through this list which is a little 00:52:09.570 --> 00:52:13.117 Presumptions but I think there's some truth in it. This is an actual 00:52:13.150 --> 00:52:15.606 condition that we have been developing in the last few last few 00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:21.387 generations and it's the megalopolis flat gigantic system phoenix Los 00:52:21.420 --> 00:52:28.276 Angeles. Mhm scott. So and so on. And this is the one that I think we 00:52:28.309 --> 00:52:32.197 should try to advocate eventually. So, your bigness against smallness 00:52:32.230 --> 00:52:35.876 exploitations. Again, fitness segregation against integration. Matter 00:52:35.909 --> 00:52:39.847 again. Mind power, authority destruction, conservation, pollution, 00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:44.017 pollution, entropy is entropy, dimmest intensity it ensured posted in 00:52:44.050 --> 00:52:47.256 fragmented structure. Exclusivity realized, complicated, complex 00:52:47.289 --> 00:52:50.827 bureaucratic performing opulent frugal agricultural in Congress and 00:52:50.860 --> 00:52:57.369 Congress. If you have any time left, we might try to get some questions. 00:52:57.849 --> 00:52:59.849 Okay. 00:53:04.750 --> 00:53:11.217 Mhm. 00:53:11.250 --> 00:53:18.916 Yeah. Uh huh. 00:53:18.949 --> 00:53:21.316 Yeah. 00:53:21.349 --> 00:53:29.349 Yeah. 00:53:32.250 --> 00:53:38.756 Have some has some information if you need it in a applications forms and 00:53:38.789 --> 00:53:42.117 so on. 00:53:42.150 --> 00:53:45.416 Do we have some time or? 00:53:45.449 --> 00:53:49.017 Yes, sometimes 00:53:49.050 --> 00:53:53.117 great question. 00:53:53.150 --> 00:53:55.617 Right. 00:53:55.650 --> 00:54:01.026 Yeah. We find out it's it's bigger. Which is good for us because it cuts 00:54:01.059 --> 00:54:07.046 down the cost per person, whatever the cost may be. We are now working 00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:11.606 around 5000 people. 00:54:11.639 --> 00:54:14.506 Yeah. 00:54:14.539 --> 00:54:18.157 If we are staying with a passive system, we are not going to produce power 00:54:18.190 --> 00:54:22.586 ourselves. So we are to get it from public utilities which which is what 00:54:22.619 --> 00:54:28.396 we're doing now, if we if we try to uh introduce most physically 00:54:28.429 --> 00:54:31.497 technology, then probably we could produce quite a bit of energy because 00:54:31.530 --> 00:54:35.307 there is lots of sunshine. So what we're trying to do now is to see how 00:54:35.340 --> 00:54:39.546 far we can go with a passive system or semi passive. So we might we might 00:54:39.579 --> 00:54:43.706 produce water, hot water also. But for a moment we're not thinking of 00:54:43.739 --> 00:54:49.006 policing energy. So we would produce the climate for the town. We will 00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:54.586 produce some of the food, high percentage of the food, at least vegetables 00:54:54.619 --> 00:55:00.276 and hot water. And then the remaining would have to be gotten through 00:55:00.309 --> 00:55:07.807 public utilities. 00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:12.367 There must be some questions flooding. I know, I know one question that is 00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:20.400 in the mind of everybody. But huh. A lot of 00:55:21.739 --> 00:55:24.407 Yeah. 00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:27.807 First two. 00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:33.626 Mhm. About that surrounding this sort of Yeah, sort of alienated and 00:55:33.659 --> 00:55:39.697 designer look uh some of that might be true. I think the contrast in the 00:55:39.730 --> 00:55:42.606 materials in the model of my accentuated. I think that it would be a 00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:47.597 better integration between the two also because what we what used to be 00:55:47.630 --> 00:55:51.407 the absence now we're becoming crescent. So we're still keeping those two 00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:55.816 large crescent like structure. We're going to be two stories the 00:55:55.849 --> 00:56:02.657 residential but in a sense a certain indication of progress of time 00:56:02.690 --> 00:56:04.896 schedule. 00:56:04.929 --> 00:56:08.197 That always happens 00:56:08.230 --> 00:56:11.947 since I've been up there last year. Put him, how long will it be or what's 00:56:11.980 --> 00:56:17.066 your scheduling? As far as having a greenhouse to help? Mhm. Well, we 00:56:17.099 --> 00:56:19.126 would like to have the swimming pool by august but we don't know if you 00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:24.327 can afford it. So we are now trying to define enough deck so we can use 00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:28.736 the swimming pool if you have a dog. You cannot use it. So now we have the 00:56:28.769 --> 00:56:31.617 structure, we have to plaster construction and we have to put equipment 00:56:31.650 --> 00:56:36.477 and put the deck. The Green House. We hope to design it this year. And we 00:56:36.510 --> 00:56:43.296 don't know if we can start this year. 00:56:43.329 --> 00:56:50.296 Mhm. There were Free river 00:56:50.329 --> 00:56:57.597 five gallons an hour. No, no, it's it's about it's about this. 00:56:57.630 --> 00:57:02.086 I don't know. It's many 100 gallons a minute. But it's a little stream, 00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:07.997 the one you see the underground stream, it's very much larger. 00:57:08.030 --> 00:57:12.037 We got 125 gallons a minute in our world. We tested a well about two weeks 00:57:12.070 --> 00:57:16.997 ago. 00:57:17.030 --> 00:57:19.197 All alone. 00:57:19.230 --> 00:57:27.230 No one shall. We're going together. 00:57:28.429 --> 00:57:36.429 What's about it. The bells royalties from the books, my lecturing and some 00:57:37.070 --> 00:57:40.956 private help, but very 00:57:40.989 --> 00:57:48.989 and then then some grants like for the festivals, we get some money from 00:57:50.130 --> 00:57:55.057 endowment of the arts. We're trying to get a little more of that, but 00:57:55.090 --> 00:58:01.186 nothing to construct. And 00:58:01.219 --> 00:58:08.977 the cafe, the cafe is, it's opening Wednesday next Wednesday. 00:58:09.010 --> 00:58:13.756 There's a menu which is a little more ambition that what we are we were 00:58:13.789 --> 00:58:18.416 thinking of. It's really good. And I think the food is going to be quite 00:58:18.449 --> 00:58:26.449 good. 00:58:28.219 --> 00:58:31.997 Well, uh, yeah, we're keeping track of the people that I've been working 00:58:32.030 --> 00:58:38.986 in a place because they have some kind of presidents. 00:58:39.019 --> 00:58:43.267 Well, we have a number of inquiry from people that they have not been 00:58:43.300 --> 00:58:45.586 working there. But then we know that there is a number of people have been 00:58:45.619 --> 00:58:49.787 working their way. They would like to be able to get impossible. It 00:58:49.820 --> 00:58:52.407 depends how long it's going to take and how many people are going to be 00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:55.686 interested in 00:58:55.719 --> 00:59:01.736 trying to see other possibilities like cooperative something which keeps 00:59:01.769 --> 00:59:08.936 the real estate within the town where the political and economic setup is 00:59:08.969 --> 00:59:15.186 going to be not individual, but that could change. 00:59:15.219 --> 00:59:20.186 So you would be atlantic releasing one in mind. 00:59:20.219 --> 00:59:25.486 Not anymore. 00:59:25.519 --> 00:59:31.887 Well, Conscience for one. 00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:35.316 Well, it depends so much on how things are going to go if things are going 00:59:35.349 --> 00:59:38.296 to go the same way they're going. Now then conscience is going to be an 00:59:38.329 --> 00:59:40.586 imperative. 00:59:40.619 --> 00:59:48.619 In fact, it might go beyond that and my maybe a paralysis. 00:59:48.619 --> 00:59:52.497 Now now we are naturally, we're trying to put the accident building. but 00:59:52.530 --> 00:59:56.686 we have already a number of activities like the ceramics, the foundry, did 00:59:56.719 --> 01:00:03.686 the restaurant, the visitor center, the garden. 01:00:03.719 --> 01:00:08.977 Well, eventually we would like to go on with would be a greater effort in 01:00:09.010 --> 01:00:12.896 urban problems. And that could be seen as a school as a research center or 01:00:12.929 --> 01:00:20.276 whatever. And the only is to to see how the fruit cycle is a organized and 01:00:20.309 --> 01:00:24.557 may be redirected. So we were producing food and then pressing food and 01:00:24.590 --> 01:00:27.856 consuming food. And that would take quite a number of people involved 01:00:27.889 --> 01:00:35.119 because it can become a very successful, very income producing process.