PQ_VCS | vcs_arizonastupb%2F3A5774CE-D5A5-11E5-8B26-B593982D388C_transcoded.mp4 ANNOUNCER: 281, thank you. Support for Channel 8 programming is made possible in part by APS. Making sure our customers have the electricity they need to power the things they value. APS, the power to make it happen. The second annual Mesa Storytelling Festival, presenting two days of storytellers entertainment October 22 and 23. Downtown Mesa On The Greens by Centennial Hall. Tickets available at 480-834-4436. Vistancia, an Arizona community featuring 45 models by seven builders. Vistancia is located north on Lake Pleasant Road, west at Happy Valley Road, grand opening happening now. [MUSIC PLAYING] MICHAEL GRANT: Tonight, on "Horizon," a debate recap. Hear post-debate reaction from Bob Schieffer, the moderator of yesterday's debate in Tempe. Also, we'll take you inside the spin room where candidates' supporters tell you why their guy won. In addition, we get the view of normal people who watched the debate at Wells Fargo Arena. And we'll tell you how hosting the debate in Tempe boosted Tempe and ASU. That's next on "Horizon." ANNOUNCER: "Horizon" is made possible by the friends of Channel 8, members who provide financial support to this Arizona PBS station. Thank you. MICHAEL GRANT: Good evening and welcome to Horizon. I'm Michael Grant. He had the best seat in the house. CBS News chief Washington correspondent Bob Schieffer was seated in front of President Bush and Senator Kerry, asking the candidates questions. Last night, producer Paul Atkinson caught up which Schieffer after the debate. BOB SCHIEFFER: Gentlemen, welcome to you both. By coin toss, the first question goes to Senator Kerry. PAUL ATKINSON: [INAUDIBLE] for a moderator, the final debate and one of the most contentious presidential elections in history. BOB SCHIEFFER: And I thought my job in this debate was to try to give the American people a better understanding and a better picture of just who these men are. So I wasn't trying to trip them up and get them to say something they didn't mean. I wanted to know-- I wanted people to understand exactly who they are and what they stand for. Mr. President, what do you say to someone in this country who has lost his job to someone overseas, who's being paid a fraction of what that job paid here in the United States. GEORGE W. I'd say, Bob, I've got policies to continue to grow our economy. BUSH: PAUL ATKINSON: Schieffer asked a wide range of questions on topics ranging from jobs and health care to homosexuality and religion. BOB SCHIEFFER: But I must say, watching these two men, I felt both of them did very well. I thought that Kerry had a very good command of facts. I thought the president-- I thought, especially, he did well on the faith question, when I asked him, how does your faith impact on policy. That could have been, in some ways, kind of a trick question. But I thought he handled it very well. I doubt that very many people are going to get mad at a man for saying, I pray a lot. PAUL ATKINSON: One topic that Schieffer hadn't originally planned on asking was an important one to Arizona. BOB SCHIEFFER: --question, Mr. President. I got more email this week on this question than any other question. And it is about immigration. It's not something that's gotten a lot of attention in Washington where I'm based, it seems like. But boy, these emails started and you can tell when it's an orchestrated campaign, and you can tell when it's people who really want to know. This was not an orchestrated campaign. But I would say that I got more email about immigration than any other single subject. PAUL ATKINSON: The host of CBS News' "Face the Nation" was able to ask some follow-up questions but per debate rules, couldn't make candidates answer every question. BOB SCHIEFFER: There are a couple of times when both of them, I think, just ignored the question entirely. And that's when I was a little bit frustrated. That's when I wished I could have asked a follow-up question. I thought there were a couple of times when both of them could have hit back at the other guy and scored some points and they didn't. PAUL ATKINSON: As moderator, Schieffer says he was not in a position to judge who won the debate. He just hopes his questions helped voters get the information they needed to cast an informed vote. MICHAEL GRANT: On the other hand, it's called the "spin room" or "spin alley." Either way, there is spin involved, and there was lots of that going on last night in the big media tent next to Gammage Auditorium, the site of the debate. Larry Lemmons tells us more about the spin room and how spin works. [MUSIC PLAYING] LARRY They came, they say, they spun. LEMMONS: SCOTT STANZEL: I think the president will lay out his vision for the next four years in terms of how we continue to strengthen the economy, how we improve health care so we have lower cost of medical liability reform. JOE LOCKHART: John Kerry's done a very effective job of holding the president accountable for his record, both at home and abroad. And laying out a very positive vision, an alternative choice for new direction in this country. ANDREW CARD: The president has a wonderful track record on domestic policy and our economy. And he'll talk about that track record because it's built a solid foundation for us to have a very, very optimistic future. WESLEY CLARK: This administration is running from its record and to use President Bush's own word, you can run but you can't hide. Well, he can't hide from having done almost nothing for 3 and 1/2 years except to get us in a war we didn't have to fight. LARRY And this is before the debate. For the reporters convenience, or perhaps inconvenience, LEMMONS: depending on your point of view, this structure was created partly for the facilitation of spin. So what exactly is spin? Fox News' Sean Hannity and Kerry staffer Chad Clanton illustrate. SEAN HANNITY: He's like the number one spin liberal. Listen, you might as well-- I'm going to be him for tonight. It doesn't matter how bad Kerry gets beaten tonight, he's going to say Kerry wins. CHAD CLANTON: Sure. SEAN HANNITY: That's what spin is. CHAD CLANTON: We won the first two decisively. Every public poll said Kerry won. SEAN HANNITY: You lost the second debate. CHAD CLANTON: Here's a question-- SEAN HANNITY: The fact that-- hang on a second. CHAD CLANTON: Are we going to have a furious George tonight? SEAN HANNITY: He wants to be a host. He wants to be a host. No, what you're going to see is passion and genuine concern. Are we going to see flip-flopper tonight? CHAD CLANTON: No, we're going to-SEAN HANNITY: Are we going to see the dolphin tonight? Are we going to see Flipper tonight? Who are we going to see? CHAD CLANTON: Are we going to see furious George or smirking and scowling Bush? SEAN HANNITY: Is it possible that he'll vote to raise taxes on the stage tonight? CHAD CLANTON: He's voted to cut taxes. [INAUDIBLE]. SEAN HANNITY: No, he's going to cut-- you mean cut defense. CHAD CLANTON: [LAUGHS] No, that's not true. SEAN HANNITY: Weaken America's defenses. Oh, all right. CHAD CLANTON: Will George Bush admit a single mistake tonight? SEAN HANNITY: He never made one. CHAD CLANTON: Have you ever made a mistake? SEAN HANNITY: No, never, not-- CHAD CLANTON: Of course not. See-SEAN HANNITY: Debating you, that's my mistake. CHAD CLANTON: --that's why he likes Bush. LARRY All reporters don't agree on the value of spin. Nor do they agree on how it began. Nor do they LEMMONS: even agree on what is spin. They do know it's become an accepted, if not hated part, of the electoral process. PAUL BEGALA: About 20 years ago, there really was no such thing as spin. And what happened is, there was an AP reporter named Walter Mears, and he filed the first story from each debate or each major event. And journalists, having a pack mentality, would crowd around Walter's typewriter because their editors would want to know why is your lead different from AP's? And so Walter would set the tone for everybody else's coverage. If he thought Kennedy did better than Nixon, that would drive it. Well, so then political hacks like me started thinking, well, maybe if we can influence the Walters of the world-- WALTER It's very rare in the olden days before radio that the public had any idea what the presidential CRONKITE: candidates stood for. They did their trained trips through the whistle stops. But that was a handful of people who got to actually see them. And it was very few seconds. And not debates in the first place. PAUL BEGALA: But now it has reached an absurd level where it's really a waste of time for the candidates, frankly, and it's a waste of time for the journalists because people think for themselves. CANDY What's interesting is, I think, we've kind of full circle on spin. I think when it first started, there CROWLEY: was more intellectual honesty to it on both sides. And this was years ago. I think now it's become such a circus. LARRY How has been transformed the American political experience? LEMMONS: JEFF I don't think it's transformed it at all. I just think it's created an enormous waste of time for GREENFIELD: political operatives and reporters. It's a exercise that's gotten completely out of control. It's become self-parody. But in terms of affecting anybody's opinion, is there anyone with an IQ bigger than their waistline that listens to a paid operative of one candidate saying we won and thinks, oh, now I see what happened. ALAN COLMES: Spin is actually part of the political process. I mean, they call where we are now spin alley. You pretty much know what the Bush person's going to say and what the Kerry person's going to say. We already know that each side won the debate. So I think the viewer, by this point, is discerning enough to know that this is spin. And they know that if they're hearing both sides, they'll eventually wind up. As we say at Fox News, you decide. People make up their own mind. TOM OLIPHANT: Well, we're sitting here in the press section. The spinning is going on over there. Going over there is an act of free will. You don't have to. LARRY We're just wondering how spin has transformed the political process. LEMMONS: SEAN HANNITY: I let other people just decide all that. I give my true heartfelt, intellectually honest opinion. One of the problems I have is I know too much about John Kerry. I know John Kerry in spite of him saying he's never changed his position on Iraq. I know he has. And I can cite them. And I can-would you like me to? JEFF It's kind of like 7-year locusts, annoying-- no, that's not true. Locusts can do real damage. I GREENFIELD: guess it's like psoriasis, maybe, it's annoying, but it's not fatal. LARRY Why is it-- why is it still here? LEMMONS: JEFF I have no idea. I don't know. I'm trying to figure that out. I guess there are a whole lot of GREENFIELD: people looking for something to do with their time. DAVID I can't believe the number of people here who will tell you what it is you're supposed to think LIEBOWITZ: about what we're going to hear. We'll spend 90 minutes analyzing the 90 minutes of the debate. And we could spend 900 hours after that, with all these different folks getting their perspective. Everybody's got a kind of partisan axe to grind, so you got to have your detector tuned to a very high level. TOM OLIPHANT: What's changed is the formalizing of it. The creation of rules, the evolution of the term. But fooling around with journalists trying to influence what they write, probably began in ancient Rome. TUCKER The political process is spin. I mean, it's sort of putting your gloss on the facts at hand. So CARLSON: that's what I mean-- look, politics is about making arguments. It's about convincing people that you're right and the other guy is wrong. And so spin is intrinsic to that. CANDY I take seriously that these people believe that their candidate of one of the following reasons. I CROWLEY: don't take seriously that that's the fact of the matter. And so spin has become just half empty, half full. And it has gotten so overloaded with so many people saying all the same things, that it's almost something you tune out completely. JUDY It does make it a little harder, I think, for reporters, to sift through the arguments that both WOODRUFF: sides are making. And I think it makes it more important than ever that reporters who cover don't just listen to and take for granted what they're told. But that they do their homework, they call up and they get the statistics to back up what these candidates are saying. That you don't just take what is being said to you at face value. JEFF This started out in a very informal way with people going, and some people they knew. And GREENFIELD: there were no cameras, and you just say, what do you think? And sometimes you actually get a halfway honest answer. But the only time you get an honest answer from an operative is you call them on the phone, and you've known them for a long time, and you have a quiet, anonymous conversation. Who's going to stand in front of a camera and say, my guy really stunk? Or even, I guess we may have lost this one. Three days later, they'll tell you [INAUDIBLE]. DAVID It makes it almost impossible for an average person, I think, to get any kind of an unfettered, LIEBOWITZ: unfiltered view of the process. You just have to work extra to somehow tease out the truth out of all the gunk that's being stuff down your throat. JEFF I do not know how this thing got to where it is. I don't participate in it. I'm here only because GREENFIELD: CNN cameras are after this debate. I got to go on and talk about this. I think everybody could get a lot more sleep if they just didn't do this. But I cannot tell you why they do it. You might need a trained psychologist. Not a humble country journalist. LARRY Mixed feelings about spin aside, the fact is that once the debate is actually over, the real spin LEMMONS: begins. SPEAKER 1: How was it, Mr. Rove? KARL ROVE: Fantastic. Unbelievably great. The president had him on the ropes right from the beginning. And it was great. And what they thought was going to be their turf, the president was absolutely terrific. SPEAKER 1: Reverend, what will happen with another four years of President Bush? JESSE JACKSON: The gap between the rich before we get much wider. The Supreme Court will be stacked with extremist judges. SPEAKER 2: How did your uncle do tonight, sir? SPEAKER 3: I thought he did really well, but you're expecting that answer. SPEAKER 4: Clearly, this was a big win for John Kerry, 3 for 3. George Bush bobbed and weaved all night, he didn't answer any of the questions-- LARRY While the message may run against the facts of the matter, it doesn't really matter what the LEMMONS: facts are. In the spin room, the message is everything. It's a dog-eat-dog electoral process. TRIUMPH: I thought the president really showed a lot of class today. I thought John Kerry hit it out of the park. I thought the president was really caught exaggerating. He wasn't on his game. I thought John Kerry looked stunned when he flippety-flopped. Who wants me to spin for them? Come on, I'll whore too! MICHAEL GRANT: OK, now that you know more about spin, let's hear more of it from some of the biggest spinners around last night. KAREN HUGHES: And I think what tonight's debate showed is that the president finishes strong. You've heard a lot. They've tried to spin you from the other side that Senator Kerry has a record of finishing strong. I thought tonight was his poorest debate performance. It's President Bush who clearly is the one who can finish strong. He'll talk about the future, that's one thing you don't hear much about from John Kerry. You hear a lot of complaints. But you don't hear comments about the future and where he wants to lead this country. And his optimism about the fact that we can create more jobs, that we can make health care more accessible and more affordable, as President Bush says, without putting the government in charge. And therefore leading to rationing and restrictions on what you can or cannot-- what kind of care you can or cannot get. BILL Senator Kerry won. I believe that his strength on domestic issues was apparent. His emphasis RICHARDSON: on the minimum wage, his emphasis on immigration, earned legalization. His emphasis on job creation was important. His protecting Social Security. I believe that he was on very strong ground. And I believe that he won. It's three for three. And now on to getting the votes. KEN MEHLMAN: I think we're going to be in for 18 days of what'll be a very close campaign. We've always said this'll be close. We said it when we were up, we said it when we were down. The country is closely divided, and for the next 18 days, the American people will have to decide if they want the taxes to go up, or to keep their taxes down. If they want their private health care or do they want government to take over their health care. Do they want a strong national defense where we take the battle to the enemy or do we want a global test that even Senator Kerry couldn't explain or defend tonight. HENRY I thought, for example, the discussion on health care was very clear. He showed a clear CISNEROS: mastery of the issue, and laid out exactly how his plan will work and where the money's going to come from. And I thought on the minimum wage, he spoke very clearly about the plight of working families and how that's so difficult for them to make ends meet. When it came to the president's turn, he changed the subject to education. Well, how does-- I mean, education is important, clearly important, but it doesn't put food on the table today or put a roof over people's heads or pay the gasoline bill. DAN BARTLETT: Well, tonight was a clear victory for President Bush. He brought the complete package. He showed his heart, his passion, his vision for America for the next four years on the key issues facing our country. And he said that there was a clear difference, and I think that was clear by the end of the night that Senator Kerry's record in the United States Senate shows that he's for higher taxes, more regulation, weaker defenses, and that's not what America wants during these historic times we live in. ED PASTOR: This morning, the last poll I saw dealing with Arizona, Kerry, is about three to four points behind. So that means in this last two, three weeks, that the Kerry campaign has now made Arizona a battleground state. And I think this debate here in Arizona is going to, again, energize our community. So I think that Arizona has a very good chance of turning blue. RALPH REED: The president was in command, he was confident, he was clear, he was calm. He had a comprehensive understanding of the issues. And I think John Kerry, frankly, had some real bloopers tonight. SPEAKER 6: What were they, sir? RALPH REED: Well, he said that the president had never met with the Congressional Black Caucus. That's a flat-out lie. The president has met with the Congressional Black Caucus in the White House. TERRY Tonight, George Bush didn't even show up tonight. I think this was the worst. Believe it or not, I MCAULIFFE: didn't think he could be worse than the first night, but he didn't answer any questions. He was very evasive. John Kerry clearly looked like the president of the United States tonight. ED GILLESPIE: We're coming out of here with an incredible momentum. And the fact is when the American people look at the issues that emerged again tonight, Senator Kerry coming out in favor of amnesty for those who come to this country illegally as opposed to the president's call for a guest worker program, calling continually for higher taxes, more federal spending, saying that indeed he does think that we should treat terrorist acts as law enforcement matters. We did that for a long time in this country. JESSE JACKSON: Mr. Bush one day put the picture of Dr. King in the White House. The next day, said the largest Supreme Court to kill affirmative action. And actually laid the wreath on Dr. King's grave site. Next day, put Pickering, right wing judge, on the federal bench. Trent Lott's recommendation. It's deception, it's wolves in sheep clothing. We deserve better. LINDA LINGLE: I think clearly tonight you saw the difference between a president who took action when he saw problems facing a nation. And Senator Kerry who just talked about the complaints that he had about our country. RAUL GRIJALVA: Well, this is a-- some people said, and incorrectly, this state was not in play anymore. Well, that's a four-point difference and probably a three-point difference. And so the state is very much in play. And having the debate here just adds to the importance of Arizona and those 10 electoral votes that both men need and we are confident we're going to get to Kerry. JOHN CORNYN: Well, I thought the president delivered an outstanding performance. I know his first performance some people thought wasn't up to his usual standards. In the second one, they thought he did well. But I think he really hit it out the ballpark this time. ELIJAH I think he made it clear when we talked about health care and the fact that we can and must CUMMINGS: support health care for our citizens and corrected Bush to make sure it was clear it is not some government program. But his comments about the minimum wage very important because there are so many women who-- particularly single women-- who are working hard and not getting sufficient pay to take care of their kids. I think he made some very, very strong points with regard to education. No Child Left Behind. The president makes a big deal about No Child Left Behind. But again, still he refuses to fund it by $28 billion. HECTOR I felt great on style, on substance, on credibility. The president did great. I think he was BARRETTO: relaxed. He had some very funny lines, but he also had a lot of tough talk about the things that this country has to do. It is a war against international terrorism. We have to win it. It is not a nuisance, it's not something that we have to manage. ANN LEWIS: It's another home run for John Kerry. But I'm going to say I was particularly pleased by his answers, I thought, on the economy, on jobs, on the minimum wage, on health care, on immigration. In every case, he's been clear, he's specific. He's really talked to people about, here's what we really are. Here's what we need to do about it. And what a contrast with George Bush, who just seemed, once again, tonight, to be out of touch with reality. MICHAEL GRANT: Now we've heard from all the professionals, what did real people think about the debate? Paul Atkinson got some of that reaction at Wells Fargo Arena on the ASU campus where people gathered to watch the debate. [APPLAUSE] PAUL ATKINSON: A crowd of several thousand fills the lower level of Wells Fargo Arena. President Bush supporters sit next to Senator Kerry fans. Their eyes glued to a giant big screen. Unlike spectators inside nearby Gammage Auditorium, these debate watchers are free to cheer on their candidates. Heather Twaiten-Malone wears her faith in President Bush on her sleeve, or in this case, on her arm. She grew up in a conservative Republican family. HEATHER So far all we've been hearing about more this, more that, Saddam, Iraq, and it's nice to hear a TWAITEN- little bit more about domestic issues. About the education. MALONE: PAUL ATKINSON: Kylie Knape watches the debate with her mom. She supports John Kerry. KYLIE KNAPE: The debate is going very well so far. I just wish both of the candidates would go off on a limb and stop repeating the same issues and bring up new issues that haven't been brought up in the last two debates, because this is their final chance to say how they stand on all of the issues. PAUL ATKINSON: Supporters of Ralph Nader sit and watch in silent protest. Nader is not on the ballot in Arizona and wasn't invited to the presidential debates. ROBERT KILMAN: It's absurd for us to call this a presidential debate since it's not really presidential. It's just the Republicans and Democrats. There's a bunch of other candidates that are eligible to be involved in the debate. But they're not because the two-party system is keeping them out. I think it's a shame for Arizona. It's a shame for America. It's a shame for democracy. LARRY While most in attendance favor a particular candidate, Steve Lang is one of the few undecided LEMMONS: voters watching the debate here. STEVE LANG: I think we really need to sit back and really decide. I'm taking the time to weigh out each issue to see what works for me, what will work for my family. And trying to line it up with my perspective, my views. LARRY Lang has concerns with how the president has handled a few domestic issues. He's also wary LEMMONS: of the Massachusetts senator. STEVE LANG: I think they both need to do a better job with relating to the people. I think there's a tendency, as we see with all of our politicians, they are all well-to-do. They don't associate with the working class, the middle class, so to speak. And there's a huge differentiation. And I think that's one of the issues that I have to think about in my candidate. LARRY The political science student and Gulf War veterans says it'll take more than this debate to LEMMONS: convince him to vote for. But come November 2, he'll be prepared to cast his ballot. He just hopes others plan to do the same. MICHAEL GRANT: It's been an incredible week for ASU, a Nobel Prize winner, a giant football game coming up, and, of course, the presidential debate. Paul Atkinson tells us about the benefits derived from the debate by not only ASU, but also Tempe. PAUL ATKINSON: An assortment of the valley's movers and shakers watch the debate inside the old main building on the ASU campus. Among them, long-time television journalist and valley resident, Hugh Downs. HUGH DOWNS: It is a more important election than any time in my memory, and I go back to when Wendell Willkie was running opposite of Roosevelt, for what was Roosevelt's third term in 1940. This is a very, very crucial debate. There's very strong feelings on both sides. And the outcome is going to be extremely important. PAUL ATKINSON: ASU first approached the Commission on Presidential Debates about hosting one 12 years ago. Little did anyone realize then the significance it would hold now. TERRY I think it's tremendous for Arizona to be in the national spotlight, as we are, for the debates. GODDARD: And especially having the culminating debate, I don't know who is the genius that thought of getting the last one. Usually that's the booby prize, but in this case, it is the most important debate in the history of this election. SPEAKER 5: The last thing I said to him was speak from your heart. PAUL ATKINSON: The debate attracted hundreds of national and international reporters. [MUSIC PLAYING] ANNOUNCER: Now live from Tempe, Arizona, site of the final presidential debate. Judy Woodruff's "Inside Politics." CNN and MSNBC broadcast several shows live from the ASU campus. JUDY Largest city and home to Arizona State University and the Arizona-- WOODRUFF: PHIL GORDAN: It's created a buzz. I mean, everywhere is Phoenix, Tempe, the Valley's become the center of the nation now. And everybody's here, and economically, it's been a great boom because people are starting to see Phoenix and the valley again. And as a mayor, I'm just excited again that Phoenix is once again the focus of the nation. [CHEERING] PAUL ATKINSON: The media attention could not have come at a better time for ASU, with an economics professor awarded a Nobel Prize, and it's undefeated football team taking on top ranked USC. MICHAEL CROW: I think what we're showing is that we're competitive on many, many fronts. Competitive academically, competitive in the national political scene, and competitive on the athletic field. And we're very excited about this, it's been a tremendous opportunity for our students. 15,000 students signed up for the lottery to win tickets to get into the lottery-- or into the debate. 13,000 will be at Wells Fargo Arena. It's unbelievable. A lot of excitement, we're very happy. PAUL ATKINSON: Sponsors paid some $2 and 1/2 million to help offset the costs of hosting the debate. While the final tab is expected to be much higher, many state leaders think the benefits were worth it. JEFF FLAKE: Boy, it's a big coup for ASU, it really is. The 60 million people from around the country knowing that ASU and where it is and what it stands for, it's just really good. So for Arizona in general, to have the debate here was a good day for Arizona. JANET Well, it's been great for Arizona. I think it signals even more how we're moving forward, NAPOLITANO: moving ahead. The whole nation has been focused on our state the last few days, and on Tempe, and on ASU, and I want to really congratulate the people of Arizona State and of Tempe for putting on what I think has been a seminal incident in this campaign, a seminal event that may make the difference in the end. 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